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June 2, 2013 From User brooks_jones iPad_storytime DavidBFox brooks_jones DavidBFox ruBORED DavidBFox DavidBFox brooks_jones DavidBFox brooks_jones LuvApp brooks_jones brooks_jones ruBORED brooks_jones iPad_storytime DavidBFox brooks_jones DavidBFox ruBORED LuvApp DavidBFox ruBORED brooks_jones swimfreak78 roxiemunro DavidBFox brooks_jones DavidBFox swimfreak78 brooks_jones DavidBFox brooks_jones roxiemunro DavidBFox brooks_jones roxiemunro DavidBFox Tweet OK! Who is out there ready to ramp up for #storyappchat? Show of hands? RT @brooks_jones: OK! Who is out there ready to ramp up for #storyappchat? Show of hands? I'm ready. Raising a very realistic looking hand into the air. One might say it's a Skeuomorphic hand. #storyappchat @DavidBFox Very funny, David! Here are some skeuomorphic cookies and milk to go with our #storyappchat discussion tonite! LOL @brooks_jones LOL! #storyappchat @brooks_jones @DavidBFox #storyappchat hi everybody! i have to admit I don't understand the topic tonight or what skeuomorphic is I heard there was a long-time internal battle within Apple about whether their UI should be skeuomorphic or not... #storyappchat Jonny Ive, who now heads up software as well as product design, is against it. http://t.co/tKP7rIF8ab #storyappchat As defined here, skeuomorphic design isn't the same as visual realism, which is a hot topic lately http://t.co/uX2vtjir6x #storyappchat @ruBORED @brooks_jones did a great job describing it at http://t.co/cZZkWexGSc #storyappchat @ruBORED That's OK, Jan, it's a fairly new topic to me as well. Interesting debates going on. #storyappchat Hey! @brooks_jones @DavidBFox #storyappchat @LuvApp Welcome to #storyappchat tonite! Glad to have you joining our discussion :) @ruBORED Welcome to #storyappchat, btw. Great to see you here, as always! @brooks_jones Thanks. I will check it out #storyappchat I remember telling my boss years ago that just because we _could_ add a drop shadow to our logo, didn't mean we should #storyappchat MT @DavidBFox: Jonny Ive, who now heads up software & product design, is against skeuomorphism: http://t.co/N3fgWBlS4V #storyappchat @brooks_jones Interesting, yes of course, layout of a UI so it matches real world equivalent, even if not w/realistic textures #storyappchat I think most of us expect software and apps to mimic the real world when appropriate, it's visual realism that's in question #storyappchat I have to say, I was one of the few who really liked how my iPhone apps looked like the real world equiv... paper, leather #storyappchat @brooks_jones #storyappchat Thx @brooks_jones thanks! #storyappchat I think I'm going to miss it when it goes away in iOS 7 http://t.co/lFDJlJugrB #storyappchat @DavidBFox @brooks_jones Thx David. I will check it out.#storyappchat Does anybody using a Kindle really miss the fake page turn experience? I know I don't. #storyappchat RT @brooks_jones: OK! Who is out there ready to ramp up for #storyappchat? Show of hands? Hi guys, sorry I'm late... #Storyappchat @brooks_jones I probably don't miss it. I think tech newbies like it... especially those who didn't grow up w/tech #storyappchat @roxiemunro Welcome to tonite's #storyappchat, Roxie! Nice to have you with us. :) @brooks_jones Maybe it served a purpose: getting tech newbies to accept they can have a "book reading" experience on an iPad #storyappchat @DavidBFox @brooks_jones I won't miss it #storyappchat @DavidBFox Yep, now that computers/tablets are more ubiquitous, perhaps the realism is no longer as necessary #storyappchat Also for me as one who started using computers before they had graphics, I loved how realistic things could look on-screen #storyappchat @swimfreak78 Welcome to #storyappchat tonite! Always a pleasure to have you with us :) RT @swimfreak78: @DavidBFox @brooks_jones I wont miss it ? Same here... #Storyappchat Computer art on our first computers consisted of ASCII drawings... https://t.co/QjCfemuVuL #storyappchat @DavidBFox Amen to that, I remember learning Basic on the original Apple II. No graphics to speak of back then! #storyappchat RT @brooks_jones: @DavidBFox now that computers/tablets are more ubiquitous, perhaps the realism is no longer as necessary #Storyappchat So the 1st time I saw a calculator program on a computer with "real buttons", probably in the early 80s, I thought it was cool #storyappchat Time Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:01:06 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:01:41 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:02:40 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:03:26 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:04:50 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:06:19 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:06:50 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:07:34 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:07:42 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:08:12 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:08:28 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:08:34 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:08:58 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:09:22 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:10:27 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:11:06 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:11:55 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:11:56 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:12:24 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:12:40 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:12:42 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:12:54 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:13:27 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:13:32 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:14:11 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:15:01 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:15:03 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:15:24 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:16:10 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:16:27 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:16:51 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:17:24 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:17:26 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:17:48 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:18:12 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:18:25 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:18:35 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:18:51 +0000 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:19:26 +0000

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June 2, 2013 swimfreak78 roxiemunro DavidBFox roxiemunro iPad_storytime brooks_jones roxiemunro iPad_storytime swimfreak78 DavidBFox DavidBFox swimfreak78 brooks_jones roxiemunro brooks_jones DavidBFox iPad_storytime roxiemunro swimfreak78 brooks_jones swimfreak78 roxiemunro roxiemunro LuvApp DavidBFox DavidBFox brooks_jones iPad_storytime DavidBFox roxiemunro roxiemunro brooks_jones swimfreak78 cynthianugent @swimfreak78: @brooks_jones thanks! It's interesting tho, when my son reads books on the iPad he likes the page flip #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:20:18 +0000 I kind of like the shadows...adds depth and helps with perception. #Storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:20:42 +0000 @brooks_jones Apple II actually had pretty cool graphics compared to earlier computers... very blocky though. #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:21:14 +0000 How is OS7 going to be different? #Storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:21:16 +0000 I remember how obsessed everyone was w/ how page turns should look when I began reviewing book apps. I never understood why. #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:21:31 +0000 @roxiemunro Yes, sometimes the realism helps w/understanding. I hate it when it's just 'cool,' without adding anything else #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:22:28 +0000 I agree re page turns...phoney and too decorative, unnecessary. #Storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:22:41 +0000 @DavidBFox I like skeuomorphic design when it is visually appealing. Slowing down page turning only irritates me. #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:22:47 +0000 @iPad_storytime perception perhaps - or ease of use? Hard to change all at once #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:22:55 +0000 @roxiemunro I hear it will have a more "flat design" that is starker and simpler #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:22:56 +0000 @iPad_storytime Yes, if the "realism" slows down the UI, there should be an option to turn it off #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:23:41 +0000 are kids book apps different though? With interactivity sometimes arrows or page turns are necessary #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:24:37 +0000 Right! RT @DavidBFox: @iPad_storytime Yes, if the "realism" slows down the UI, there should be an option to turn it off #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:24:42 +0000 OS7 ...I heard something about it being "black," whatever that means. #Storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:25:00 +0000 @swimfreak78 I like arrows/buttons much better than page swipes for kid's apps #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:25:11 +0000 @swimfreak78 would the kids app lose anything if the page turn was a dissolve instead of the image of a page turning? #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:25:42 +0000 @roxiemunro I'd give up skeuomorhpism (even visually cool stuff) in favor of standard settings/features for book apps ... #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:26:01 +0000 I like arrows or buttons too...just not real large or obvious page turns, like mimicking a book. #Storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:27:10 +0000 @DavidBFox not necessarily, but sometimes kids are so focused on the story and images they don't follow along as fast #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:27:16 +0000 @iPad_storytime @roxiemunro Me too! Would love some UI standards for kid's book apps #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:27:46 +0000 @brooks_jones @iPad_storytime @roxiemunro especially since no two kids books from different developers are the same! #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:28:51 +0000 RT @iPad_storytime: @roxiemunro Id give up skeuomorhpism in favor of standard settings/features. But may be too boring? #Storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:28:55 +0000 You don't want to throw the baby out w. the bath water..we want fun and creativity,not too much standardization. #Storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:29:52 +0000 @DavidBFox dissolve opposed to page turn is a nice idea #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:30:47 +0000 @swimfreak78 The downside to skeuomorhpism is it locks you into a real-world model. Invent something wildly better instead! #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:31:16 +0000 @LuvApp There may be something much more creative than dissolve or page turn if we drop the idea that it's a "book app" #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:32:00 +0000 @DavidBFox EXACTLY, David! Innovation should trump realism, when appropriate #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:33:02 +0000 @roxiemunro I look for story dominating the experience - even if other features can be made cool, I'd rather not steal focus #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:34:11 +0000 ...It needs to have a story, some interactivity, but it doesn't have to FEEL like a book as you read it #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:34:18 +0000 RT @brooks_jones: @DavidBFox EXACTLY, David! Innovation should trump realism, when appropriate #Storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:34:19 +0000 RT @iPad_storytime: I look for story dominating the experience even if other features are cool, rather not steal focus.True! #Storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:35:49 +0000 RT @DavidBFox: It needs to have a story, some interactivity, but it doesn't have to FEEL like a book as you read it #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:35:50 +0000 @DavidBFox perception right? #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:36:02 +0000 cynthia @rascal media listening in from congress2013 in victoria. giving my sound in storyapps in the morning #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:37:24 +0000

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June 2, 2013 DavidBFox DavidBFox brooks_jones cynthianugent brooks_jones cynthianugent DavidBFox roxiemunro iPad_storytime brooks_jones cynthianugent iPad_storytime roxiemunro brooks_jones cynthianugent ruBORED brooks_jones swimfreak78 DavidBFox brooks_jones roxiemunro swimfreak78 brooks_jones cynthianugent brooks_jones roxiemunro iPad_storytime cynthianugent roxiemunro iPad_storytime brooks_jones DavidBFox iPad_storytime swimfreak78 roxiemunro DavidBFox cynthianugent brooks_jones @swimfreak78 perception... story, characters, immersion, involvement, all way more important than page turn style :-) #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:37:54 +0000 Hi @cynthianugent !! Welcome! #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:39:29 +0000 @cynthianugent Welcome to #storyappchat tonite! Great to have you with us :) Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:39:49 +0000 thank u. re skeu- think it'll be a while to shake off 100s of years of thinkg of story in terms of paper bk - called codex btw #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:45:17 +0000 Is there anyone who will miss the wood paneling in the iBooks/Newstand apps? #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:45:19 +0000 faux wood panelling is always such a design statement #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:46:29 +0000 @brooks_jones I think they should update it to allow us to choose what kind of wood to use. Oak, mahogany, cherry wood? :-) #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:46:41 +0000 RT @brooks_jones: Is there anyone who will miss the wood paneling in the iBooks/Newstand apps? No. It's dated and boring. #Storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:46:49 +0000 @brooks_jones Not anymore than I miss that 1970s station wagon on the wikipedia page for skeuomorphism. ;-) #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:47:11 +0000 @roxiemunro I completely agree! Thought it was ridiculous the instant I first noticed it #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:47:49 +0000 Does skeu refer to realistic sounds too. like lovely instruments in new sago sound box? #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:48:29 +0000 RT @cynthianugent: faux wood panelling is always such a design statement #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:48:42 +0000 RT @brooks_jones: @roxiemunro I completely agree! Thought it was ridiculous the instant I first noticed it. Same here. #Storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:48:53 +0000 HaHA! RT @iPad_storytime: Not anymore than I miss that 1970s station wagon on the wikipedia page for skeuomorphism. ;-) #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:49:18 +0000 realistic sound in app has such impact. eg, girl trying to break bottle in the heart and the bottle app. kids jump w/shock #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:51:19 +0000 @brooks_jones @roxiemunro #storyappchat FUNNY! Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:53:22 +0000 @cynthianugent I think sound effects can be used to further a story along. Unnecessary SFX include the sound of a page turn #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:53:31 +0000 @cynthianugent I love the sound effects in Monster at the end of this book, but not the new ad #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:53:40 +0000 @brooks_jones agreed. Sound effects to enhance the story are important. Not sounds to remind you it's a "book" app #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:54:56 +0000 @swimfreak78 Does the new ad include sounds too? Unfortunate #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:55:06 +0000 Steampunk uses a lot of skeuomorphism ;-)) #Storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:56:17 +0000 @brooks_jones yes it's for Earths Best, I have been telling people NOT to update. Just a fun book :) #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:56:36 +0000 @roxiemunro I like steampunk! #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:56:48 +0000 skeu is v nostalgic. lots of looks-like materials, esp OLD eg toca robot lab- rust, cardboard, peeling paint, welding #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:57:12 +0000 @swimfreak78 I especially hate that ppl who bought it the first time around have to pay again to remove the ad! #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:57:34 +0000 RT @brooks_jones: @roxiemunro I like steampunk! Same here ... Using it in a new book idea. #Storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:57:40 +0000 @cynthianugent I like realistic sounds except chewing is my pet peeve - it's like nails on a chalkboard for me. #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:57:58 +0000 @DavidBFox v good point #Storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:58:34 +0000 RT @iPad_storytime: @cynthianugent I like realistic sounds except chewing is my pet peeve - like nails on a chalkboard.Yes! #Storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:59:01 +0000 @swimfreak78 It's hard to not update tho - I'd have to give up using 'update all'. But I paid for that app myself - not happy! #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:59:11 +0000 Hard to believe this #storyappchat hour is almost over! Flies by when we have fun (which is every week)! Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:59:31 +0000 @iPad_storytime Hah!! #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:59:39 +0000 RT @roxiemunro: Steampunk uses a lot of skeuomorphism ;-)) #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:59:53 +0000 RT @brooks_jones: Hard to believe this #storyappchat hour is almost over! Flies by when we have fun (which is every week)! Mon, 03 Jun 2013 02:00:08 +0000 Yes, it's great to stimulate each other's ideas... #Storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 02:00:33 +0000 Fast hour... we should have a follow-up chat on this topic after we've all see iOS 7 #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 02:00:41 +0000 I like sounds that add meaning #Storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 02:00:42 +0000 Thanks to all of you who took part in tonite's #storyappchat discussion! Love sharing opinions with you guys :) Mon, 03 Jun 2013 02:01:12 +0000

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June 2, 2013 Thanks everyone for you ideas! And thanks co-hosts @brooks_jones & @iPad_storytime !! #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 02:01:27 +0000 I usually mute device after one read w/sound for app reviews. FYI to devs - music on short-loop iPad_storytime makes reviewers crazy ... #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 02:01:30 +0000 brooks_jones @DavidBFox When is iOS 7 supposed to come out? #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 02:01:37 +0000 RT @DavidBFox: Fast hour... we should have a follow-up chat on this topic after weve all see roxiemunro iOS 7. I'm worried abt OS7. #Storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 02:01:40 +0000 cynthianugent i'm so glad I was able to sit in despite being "overseas" - haha #Storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 02:01:51 +0000 roxiemunro Thanks, folks...have a great week, and see ya next Sunday. #Storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 02:02:25 +0000 Exceptional hour of #storyappchat - Thank you @DavidBFox & @brooks_jones! Watch 4 iPad_storytime transcript http://t.co/Wvhbafftod #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 02:03:07 +0000 cynthianugent ios7. not already. you're scaring me. bye app bunnies. see u in a week. #Storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 02:03:28 +0000 Forever thanks to @DavidBFox and @iPad_storytime for co-hosting week after week! brooks_jones #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 02:04:01 +0000 RT @brooks_jones: Forever thanks to @DavidBFox and @iPad_storytime for co-hosting week swimfreak78 after week! #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 02:04:52 +0000 RT @brooks_jones: Forever thanks to @DavidBFox and @iPad_storytime for co-hosting week roxiemunro after week! Yes!!! #Storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 02:04:53 +0000 Remember to look for the #storyappchat transcript on the blog tomorrow brooks_jones http://t.co/rv3YlGdhLB Mon, 03 Jun 2013 02:05:16 +0000 iPad_storytime @cynthianugent Me too - I'm not ready for another major update. #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 02:07:11 +0000 @brooks_jones Not sure when iOS7 is coming out. With the next iPhone? Should know at DavidBFox WWDC next week https://t.co/yHsqNi1bQU #storyappchat Mon, 03 Jun 2013 07:36:50 +0000 Interesante discusion sobre #apps y #Android @storyappchat: Transcript from #storyappchat MotherTongueSL May 26 http://t.co/zPo3nXpn3e Mon, 03 Jun 2013 11:04:45 +0000 DavidBFox