Amber Marie Wray A pastors home should be symbolic of the community he pastors in.

If his congregation is in
poverty than no he shouldnt be living in Beyonce's home. His life should be simple as he is a follower of Jesus and
Jesus's life was simple. He should give more than he takes as Jesus came to serve. Some of these pastors is dead
wrong for buying 800.00 dollar shoes with the congregations money!
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Charles Willenesto Baptiste I wish I could double like Amber MarieWray's statement, look at creflo dolla and td
jakes they built a whole lifestyle that's rather lavish off of the backs of the congregation
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Amber Marie Wray Yes. I am not a fan of TD Jakes either. I went to his church a couple times when he was in WV as
well as tuned into his program channel on an accident one day. The entire show was about giving more and more
tithes and offerings. I personally grew up watching my father preach in parks while feeding the homeless so they
could be full while listening. We grew up sitting next to homeless men in soup kitchens eating beans while watching
my father preach to them. My father almost every day hooked his guitar and amplifier up in the middle of the yard
singing gospel hymns to all who could hear in one of the most poverty stricken and crime ridden hoods in baltimore.
For me I prefer a more simplistic leadership style.
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DeVon Creasey But if HIS CHURCH MEMBERS WANT TO BLESS HIM AND GIVE AS HE POURS OUT IN THE
GOSPEL EVERY WEEK THAT AINT NONE OF MY business TOUCH NOT GODS ANOINTED AND DO HIS
PROPHETS NO HARM!!! God can do what and when at anytime and he chose Bishop Jakes and thank God he
did !!!! I am very close to his children and we just talked Wednesday night so ... Anyone who wants to speak against
the BISHOP CAN HAVE SEVERAL SEATS IN MY BOOK!!! I love him and we got enough things to talk about besides
someone who is FEEDING THE HUNGRY DRESSING THE NAKED AND GIVING PEOPLE JOBS AND
PREACHING THE GOSPEL IN DALLAS TEXAS !!! BISHOP TD JAKES ANDCora Jakes Jermaine Jjay Jakes YOUR
FATHER MY BISHOP IS DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB LOVE U
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Amber Marie Wray Yes and Jesus's saints blessed him as well only you didnt see him sporting Cesears sandals and
living in a Cesear castle. The Bibles scriptures are SOLID. It is easier for a camel to enter into the eye of a needle
than a RICH MAN to enter into the king...See More
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DeVon Creasey Yes every Month he Sends free books CDs and etc please speak that which U know ...... Sis
Lynn Lynn Goebel Dyan Tyree They don't sow so they wouldn't know lol... And we can ask others Brenda Ellis and
many more ... Elder Ernest L. Jakes
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Amber Marie Wray Please dont come off as being sarcastic because we differ in opinions .. REAL TALK. First you
are supposed to be a leader and diplomatic ALWAYS in your approach when it comes to ANY contact with the public
and most specifically one that concerns biblic...See More
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DeVon Creasey People sure can sound off but please make sure you come correct before you talk about men and
women of God who YOU DONT KNOW ON A PERSONAL BASIS YOU HAVE NEVER SERVED AT THAT LEVEL OF
MINISTRY AND SO YOU TALK IN VAIN.... The bible says speak that which you know not Heard my sister. And I can
say Bishop has 1 wife and 5 children and I want to say 3 Greatgrand children and a host of Spiritual children and I am
one of them . I don't know about Creflo Dollar but I can say When it comes to The BISHOP TD JAKES I GIVE HIM
HIS DUE RESPECT. He is a HolyGhost filled Pastor Who strives to live a life pleasing unto God and walks right!!!
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DeVon Creasey When God blesses U he said U will eat the FAT OF THE LAND!!!
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Amber Marie Wray You have no idea what level of ministry i serve on ... do we need to have this convo in person ???
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DeVon Creasey Everyone doesn't realize that Bishop had a GOOD JOB ALSO WHILE HE WAS HERE AND AN OLD
LINCOLN THAT THE CHURCH HAD TO MAKE HIM STOP DRIVING BECAUSE HE DIDNT WANT TO GET A NEW
CAR!!!! Am I right Elder Nanette HinesWilbur T. Hines Sr. .....
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Jermaine Jjay Jakes This was how we lived when I was little, first house he rented....

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Jermaine Jjay Jakes The End night
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Jermaine Jjay Jakes My kids kids kids will be alright after my dad is long gone...
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DeVon Creasey Say That!!!!!! And that's BIBLICAL!

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Jermaine Jjay Jakes Don't know how his name got brought up into this mess, if you don't like him stop looking at
him, listening to him, and assuming what YOU think he is doing. My did what he had to...
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Jermaine Jjay Jakes And that part was the short sequel to my response to ignorance bc it's always bliss!!!!
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DeVon Creasey My Bro Jermaine I thought it could've been said better thanks for helping these people who think that
that's All the Bishop does is eat the seed of Church members ... Smh
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Amber Marie Wray And further more have my brother call me please because i have been trying to reach him but
your phone was off
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Amber Marie Wray And im not hating on TD JAKES as a man .,. nor insulting his character just simply saying he is
not the man to lead ME ... those whom he appeals to obviously feel different.
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DeVon Creasey Lol ok

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Amber Marie Wray And i will say i really felt disrespected by you like you tried to come for me or something and that
would really be a mistake on your part as a man of god or honestly just a man period. Seriously ... Let Bishop fight his
own battles and you fight YOURS
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DeVon Creasey No U will Not disrespect my SPIRITUAL FATHERS THAT WILL NOT BE GOOD FOR U !!!!! Epically
when U don't know them RESPECT MY LEADERS AND LADY Michelle Hightower AND Templeof Faith MLEADERS
1st because I don't play that ....... I would never disrespect your father so please don't respect those who have
FATHERED ME
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Amber Marie Wray I am not a fan of TD Jakes (Fact). Where is the disrespect ??? Please find it or a seat ...
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Amber Marie Wray Im also not a fan of Beyonces, Jay Z, YOURs for that matter and the list goes on but how is THAT
disrespect. Agian .. .waiting for an intelligent response please.
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DeVon Creasey Disrespect came in the way you tried to discredit him as a leader
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Amber Marie Wray Thats NOT disrespect. Saying that someone isnt a leader for ME because I watched my own
FATHER lead differently and thus uphold his leadership style as an example for my own IS NOT disrespect. Nor is it
discrediting. You became offended simply because Im not a fan of his and on your part you as a man never mind
leader should be ashamed of how quickly you anger and react unjustly in that anger.
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DeVon Creasey Actually I was upset at the COMMENT YOU AND CHARLES MADE pulling two leaders under your
judgement when truthfully you don't know them never worked under them... Before U dislike someone Get to know
them FIRST HONEY ... And that's all I got to say....
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DeVon Creasey Takela and all the saints Know we watch our Bishop Jakes Life and his work and he has given his life
for the ministry
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Amber Marie Wray I dont dislike TD JAKES ... where did you get that from ??? See, I see you are putting words into
my mouth but please find where "I" disrespected him. He put his self in the media to be viewed so obviously i would
have an opinion and PASTER HIGHTOWER is a man of GOD and I have NEVER met a more humble and True and
PURE family. And thats real
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DeVon Creasey Well the apple don't fall far from the tree he came from under Bishop Jakes sis!!!!!
Like Reply February 19 at 10:34pm
Amber Marie Wray I know who he came under ... I also know who Abandoned him ... see my paster is a good man
but those whom know ... KNOW
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DeVon Creasey Now I can say more Than U want me too at this time but I know BISHOP JAKES INTEGRITY
SUPER SEEDS THAT OF THE BISHOP HIGHTOWER HANDS DOWN....
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Amber Marie Wray Dont say anything ... on the phone with my brother and HE is giving me a the word from god I
need tonight. Thanks Pastor for your word from the lord tonight. You should know ... you hurt my feelings and made a
pregnant girl cry ... BRAVO .. have a blessed night.
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DeVon Creasey Lol Bishop Jakes was just at the church last year and U weren't there so again Speak that which Ye
Know !!! And if Bishop Abandoned him It might be that the Light wasn't as bright as U say it is!!! Boom
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Amber Marie Wray He was there for a funeral right ...
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DeVon Creasey No
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DeVon Creasey He was there for the STATE CONFERENCE HOSTED AT HIS CHURCH
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Amber Marie Wray Yes .. I was told of that by minister Tate. He picked a great church to come at .. many people
showed up to see him .... people love a celebrity ... I DO NOT
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DeVon Creasey Nah it was all the Bishops of HigherGround and SO THATS NOT TRUE SAME OLE gossip!!! WV
style
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Amber Marie Wray What Gossip lol .. like I go around gossiping about churches .. Please stop with the carnality right
now... go pray
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DeVon Creasey Let your yay be Yay and your NAY BE NAY
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Amber Marie Wray Yes and thats why im NAY TD Jakes
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DeVon Creasey We don't care at this point U miss ur own blessing lol
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Amber Marie Wray So you really think God is not going to bless me because im not a fan of TD Jakes .. Please tell
me you are not serious. I consider the oppertunity to councel and minister a blessing. I am blessed DAILY with the
voice and the articulate ability to do. I consider the oppertunity to councel and minister a blessing. I am blessed DAILY
with the voice and the articulate ability to do so in Gods name. For free by the way. Dont count my blessings please ..
for one you'd be counting all day and for two ... youd be missing your own while your focused on mine.
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Jermaine Jjay Jakes Amber Marie Wray I don't know you at all. But you have to understand this one thing, the Jakes
do not care about who likes us and who doesn't. It's a circle of life for us. We are used to it. So the opinions of others
doesn't and won't keep my father from moving on and blessing others, giving his all, and being who God made him to
be. It's an honor to have someone looking at this whole conversation as ignorance. But at the end of it all no needs to
tell anyone to pray like you did to DeVon Creasey, I can actually say that you need to do the same bc you are
speaking against someone that you don't know.
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Amber Marie Wray Jermaine Jjay Jakes Yes I did pray as well as self reflect and in this moment certainly didnt like
the reflection staring back in the mirror. Only because I responded with my flesh as I was offended when Devon
implied I should have a seat because Im not a fan of Td's. I think also because you are so used to being attacked that
any opposing opinion that comes your way you treat as vigilante. That is your error however because I certianly didnt
say anything out the way about your father. I dont know him nor he I so I do not like nor dislike him as person.
However i dont favor his leadership style and I AM entitled to an opinion on whom I choose to seek spiritual councel
from. As to the Jakes not caring ... well I think you are only lying to yourself. You certainly do care and are apparently
wounded by the harshness of the media as well as society's outlook or you wouldnt have taken time out your life to
read and respond to ANY of this confusion as God isnt in this convo and most likely ALL OF HIS SAINTS on this
status post have shamed him with ALL OF OUR CARNALITY. Also .. yes we should ALL pray ... maybe even together
for that is the WILL of God. Only the devil divides. One last thought .... You should know ... As a child I suffered much.
More than I care to share but at the hands of people whom sat as leaders at the church. This caused me to become
anti christ for much of my 20's. I didnt find God agian until Paster Hightower. God led me to his church when I wasnt
even looking and even now when I dont attend regularly I have dreams that urge me to step back into his building to
recieve my blessing. I say that to say this ... I dont mean to be critical of ANYONES leadership style ... Im simply
sensitive VERY SENSITIVE to whom I allow to guide me as deep down and side I am nothing more than old wounds
myself. So I do apologize for offending your fathers name. There are people whom I am sure God is leading to HIS
doorstep as God led me to Paster Hightowers and I WOULD NEVER want to hinder the lords progress nor anyone's
spiritual growth. You all have a wonderful blessed day. I sincerely hope this is the end of this little drama as we wrestle
not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world,
against spiritual wickedness in high places.
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Jermaine Jjay Jakes Amber Marie Wray just keep your opinion to yourself... Pastor Hightower was my Young
Believers in Christ teacher at Temple of Faith when I was younger. And for you to say that you don't mean to be
critical about anyone's leadership style goes to show high ignorant you really are. Now you can keep my dads name
out of your mouth my dad has worked hard to get to where he is now. Reflections show that!!!! Don't quote scriptures
that you don't truly know the meaning to bc you were carnal, you wicked, and also your stupidity should that through
this conversation. You spoke Gods vessel so u need to be sensitive VERY sensitive to that. It's my right defend who
I'm under, he not only my pastor dear heart, he is my DAD!!!! So you need to back up off of him before you get shook!
My dad loves Pastor Hightower, he even has a picture of my mother that he painted hanging in his house!!! So quit
acting like you care bc it fake, carnal, and dumb on your part. PEOPLE NEED TO LEARN HOW TO KEEP THEY
MOUTH CLOSED should be your check point and your thoughts right now... That is not an opinion, that's a fact.... My
day is already blessed, so you have a nice seat at a big stadium dear, you have a lot of seats to chose. And so that is
the point. I don't have to quote scriptures bc you are that arrogant, ignorant, and filled up with stupidity. I hope the
mirror didn't break in your face... Shut your mouth about my father!!!! That's my point!!!DeVon Creasey implied the
right thing!!!!
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Amber Marie Wray Jermaine Jjay Jakes What about this response represents christ might I ask. My father on earth
as in heaven has taught me better than this. Pleased be blessed. Sorry again for causing you ANY ill feelings ... and
also God gave me those scriptures to quote ... That message came to me and thru me by God. At the end of the day
the righteous WILL prevail and see God. Tears ( I get emotional when it comes to my love for christ plus Im pregnant
so its extra fold ) but I will say this ... I love you in christ and thats real!
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Jermaine Jjay Jakes Amber Marie Wray when I said what I said that was the end of this conversation...
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Jermaine Jjay Jakes Amber Marie Wray I really don't care about your tears. You spoke against someone that you
don't know. Dyan Tyree and DeVon Creasey know me and I say what I need to say about false and fake people when
it comes to my father. I'm not apologizing about anything that I said to you bc it's what I meant!!!!
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Amber Marie Wray Jermaine Jjay Jakes Let he without sin cast the first stone. But yet in all of
my fathers commandments the greatest of these commandments is love. And in order to have
love you must first have compassion. Turning the other cheek is a hard pill to swallow yet the
greatest strength a man can truly possess. To not only forgive once but 77 fold. Again please
accept my apology for being apart of a system that has attempted to tear your father down. I truly
see how just a simple opinion can affect a persons heart. Yes TEARS ... but forgive him father
for he knows not what he has done.
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Amber Marie Wray But in my brothers words ... God is not the Author of confusion. Thus where there is confusion ..
God is NOT in the midst of it nor is he blessing this convo.
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DeVon Creasey Well I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings so please don't look at me as such I am passionate to
those I love.
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Dyan Tyree Jermaine Jjay Jakes excellent words concerning our daddy Bishop Jakes you spoke truth it is a shame
that people look from outside and judge. Great!!!
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