TheTRUTHaboutFatsTranscript Thefirstquestionthatwehadwasabouttheclassificationoffats. Thefirstclassificationoffatsissaturatedfats.Theyreactuallysaturatedwithhydrogen.Soifyoulookat thebottomofthelittlesquigglylines,thatwhatitactuallyrepresents.Theydontnormallyputinthese littlehydrogenbonds.Theonlythingtoaddis,theterminalmolecule,allthewayontherighthandside andlefthandside,andthentheylljustputinthedoublebonds.Saturated,whichisdifferentlengths, doesnthavedoublebonds.Itsactuallysaturatedwithhydrogenionsateverypoint.Ifyougotomono unsaturated,monomeaningone,theresactuallyonedoublebond.Soifyourememberbackto Chemistry101,iftheresadoublebond,thatmeanstheresnotahydrogenbondthere.Ifyoulookat thebottom,youcanseewherethedoublebondsare.Ittakesthespotforoneofthehydrogens.So, theyrejustshowinglinoleicacid.So,mono,onedoublebond. WhenyougetintoanOmega6,whichispolyunsaturated,polymeaningmorethanone,youhave two.Ifyoulookontherighthandside,youllseelinoleicacid,andthenthatllactuallylistthechemical structurethere.So,182N6.Thethingthatsimportantthere,thetotallength(18),andthe2referto the2doublebondsthere,andthe6justreferstoOmega6.

So,wellgobacktothedifferencebetween anOmega3andanOmega6inasecond.AndthenyouvegotOmega3,whichispolyunsaturated,and ifyoulookatthisstructure,itsalphalinoleicacid18(so,samelength),3N3.Sothereare3double bondsinthiscaseandtheposition,theOmega6orOmega3actuallyreferstowherethefirstdouble bondoccurs.IntheOmega6,itsactuallysortof,youcanmakea6spacesin,theOmega3,thefirstone isactually3spacesin.WhenyouhearOmega6andOmega3,theyreactuallyjustreferringtowhere thefirstdoublebondoccurs. Sofarsogood? Sothosearethebasicstructures:saturated,monounsaturated,Omega6,andOmega3.Andthoseare reallythemainstructures,andthatshowmostofthestuffisreferredto.Ifyougetintoalittlemore detail,nowwhattheyredoingistaking2groups:saturatedandunsaturated,andjustdividingthem downbytheirlengths.Shortchainedfattyacids(SCFA),mediumchained,andthenlongchained.Andif youlook,theyllsaynumberofcarbonatoms.Itsgot124.Allofthemareimportant.Theonesyou seemostcommonare:futeric,lauric,myristic,andthensomeofthelongchainedones:palmexteric, arachidonic,andthosearesomeofthemorecommononesforSaturated.Thethingthatpeoplehaveto remembertooisthatsaturatedfattyacidsarejustaclassification.Peopletendtolumpallsaturated fattyacidstogether.Andasthebookpointsout,theyactuallydohavedifferenteffectsonthebody. Evenifyoulookatsomethingsimplethatsayssaturatedfatsincreasebloodlevelsofcholesterol. Thatsalittledebatable.Butitsprettywellknownthatstearicaciddoesntincreasebloodlevelsof cholesterol.Evenamongstsaturatedfattyacids,theeffectsonthebodyarequitedifferent.Remember, stearicacidisoneofthefatsthatsinchocolate. Sounsaturatedisjustgoingthroughthedifferentlistjustdividingthembythechains.Soasyoucansee, theresonlyoneshortchainedandtherestareactuallylongerchains.Andthenwevegotthelinoleic

andthearachidonic.Sotakealookhere,theressaturatedandunsaturatedandthenyoucanbreak themdownbythelengthofthechain. Wedidhaveaquestionaboutthearachidonicacidcascadewhichisentirelyconfusingtobehonest.If youweretohaveaskedme2yearsago,isarachidonicevil?Iwouldhavesaidyes.Now,probablynot. Ithasallsortsofdifferenteffectsonthebody. MN: TheresactuallyasupplementonthemarketcalledXfactorbyMolecularNutrition.Thats actuallyasupplement,andallitis,isarachidonicacid.Itsusedprimarilyformusclehypertrophyor musclegrowth.Whenitfirstcameout,theguywhocameoutwithit,BillLlewellyn,Iactuallythought hewasinsane.Imlike,What?Thisisjusthorrible.Itsgoingtoscrewupyourbloodvessels,messup allthestuffinyourbody.Heactuallydidafairamountofresearchstudiesonitandthatdoesntseem tobetrue.Andthesearemostlyinhealthyindividualswhoarenotaretakingsome,butnothuge amountofit.So,again,likemostthings,thebodyreallywantstohaveabalanceoffattyacidsandthat sortofthing. So,ifyoulookatbasicallywhereitjustsplits,youcaneithergodownsortoftheleftsideofthe treeortheleftsideofthetree.So,ifitsacteduponbylipoxygenase,whichisjustanenzyme,youve gotallthoseguysdownontherightside.So,allofthoseareimportant.Themaintakeawayisprobably leukotrienes.Although,thatcouldbedebated,Iguess. Now,youllprobablyseethoseinthehistamines,andyoullseethemadvertisedonTV,because theresdrugsthatcomeoutthatactuallywillblockleukotrienes.Now,leukotrienesthemselves,are actuallybronchialconstrictions.So,ifwecanblockthoseguys,especiallyifwereasthmatics,weshould beabletotreatasthma.So,weshouldpreventthosebronchioles,thosetubesinyourlungfrom contracting.Theyhavedifferenteffectsinthebody,too. Ifyougodowntheleftside,thisisacteduponbycyclooxygenase,whichisanotherenzyme. MostpeoplehaveprobablyheardofCOX1andCOX2.ThosearewhatareinNSAIDS,ortheyreactwith NSAIDS.Prostaglandinsareoneofthethingsthatbemadefromit.Andofcourse,theresnogoodway tosimplifywhattheydo.Theyhaveallsortsofdifferenteffectsinthebody.Iactuallytriedtofigurea goodwaytosimplifyitandIreallycouldntcomeupwithmuch,tobehonest. Thegoodpartisthatthromboxaneandprostacyclinscanbesimplifiedalittlebitmore.Theyre usuallyfoundinrelationtoplateletsandvessels.So,thromboxane,theprimaryoneisA2,andthats primarilyavasoconstrictor.So,thatmeanswhenitsproduced,itcausesavesseltoconstrict,toget smaller.And,italsoincreasedplateletaggression.So,notthattheplateletsgetallmadandpissyat eachother,buttheyactuallystartstickingtoeachother. So,ifyouhavevasoconstrictionandyouvegotplateletsstickingtoeachotherdoyouthink thatsagoodthingorabadthing? Badthing. Mmmhmm. 2

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Yeah,ingeneralitsviewedasabadthing.Ifyougetenoughofthemtosticktogether,inlets sayacoronaryvessel,youcouldblockoffpartofthatvesselandnowyouhaveanMI,myocardial infarctionorwhatsknownasaheartattack.Itsalittlemorecomplicatedthanthat,butthatcan happen. So,prostacyclinsactuallydoalmosttheexactopposite.Theyreactuallyvasodilators,andthey actuallydecreaseplateletaggression.So,thebodythenisgoingtotrytomaintainanicebalanceof thosetwo.Ifyougettoofarskewedoneitherend,youregoingtohaveissues.Ifyouhavetoomuch A2runningaround,youregoingtohavevasoconstriction.So,thevesselisgoingtowanttogetsmaller, andtheplateletsaregoingtosticktoeachother.Ifthatgetstooextreme,likeIjustmentioned,you couldhaveaheartattack,forexample. Ontheotherside,ifyouhavetoomuchvassaldilation,andtheplateletsdontsticktogetherat all.Now,youcanimagineallthesevesselsdilating,youcouldhaveissueswithbloodpressure.Andif theplateletsarentsticking,nowyourbloodwontclotatall.So,anextremeexampleofthatispeople thatarehemophiliacs.Youcutthemandtheydonttheycantstopbleedingbecausetheirbodyhasa hardtimewithclottingfactors. So,ifyougettoofarskewedononeendortheother,itsnotsogood.So,again,likemost thingsinthebody,youprobablywanttohaveabalanceofbothofthose.Arethereanyquestionson thatpart? ThequestionIhaveis,asarule,ahealthypersonwillhavetheirbodymakingthesenaturally? Or,isitsomethingthatweneedtosupplementthroughtheOmega6or3s? Yeah,wellgettothat.Iwouldsayingeneral,aslongasyouhaveagoodratioofOmega6to Omega3,youreprobablygoingtobeokay.Thethinkingonthathaskindofgonebackandforth.So, historically,forthelongesttimewesaid,Eww,fatsarebad.Fatsareevil,oractuallysaid,Eww,they makepeoplefat.Because,thetheorywasthatwell,theyreverycaloricallydense.Youtakea tablespoonofoliveoilversusalmostanyotherfood,itslikeverydense. So,thetheorywasthatsinceitssodense,peoplethateatmoreofitandthatcontributesto obesity,thehigheramountofcalories.Whilethereissometruthtothat,fatsthemselvesarealsohave anincreasedsatiety.So,theydoincreasefullnesswhiletheydontnecessarilycontributetothatin termsoftakingupspace,ittakesyourbodylongertobreakthemdown.So,kindofalittlebitmoreofa sustainedenergysource. So,historicallywevegonefromfatsareevil,letsmakeallsortsoflowfatproductsandput tonsofsugarinthere,andthen,oops,lowandbehold,peoplearestillasfatnowastheywere,and probablyfatter.So,itprobablywasntthebestidea. So,thelatesttheoryisthattheessentialfattyacids,whichareOmega6andOmega3,thoseare reallytheonlytwoessentialfattyacids.So,byessentialmeaningthatyourbodycantmakethemfrom otherfattyacids.So,youhavetogettheminyourdiet.Yourbodyisnotabletomakethem. 3

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MostofanAmericanorWesterndietishighlyskewedtowardsOmega6.Therealityis,for Omega3stheonlyrealhighsourcesofOmega3sarelikeflaxseedoilandafewotherminoroils,and thenthefishoils.FishoilisEPAandDHA.So,EPAandDHAarereferredtoasfishoils,andtheyre actuallymadeformonlyOmega3s.So,fromOmega3syoucanactuallymakefishoils. So,initially,peoplethought,well,wellsupplementwithOmega3s,forexample,likeaflax oil.Thatdoesseemtoworkformostpeople.But,thedietsandalotofpeopleinWesternsocietyare sohosedupthatalotoftimeswelosetheenzymestoconvertOmega3intothefishoils. So,thelatesttrend,whichIkindofagreewithisactuallysupplementingwithfishoils themselves.Thetheorythereisthatyouregivingthebodythesortofreducedformthatitcanalready use.Because,weknowthatmostpeoplehavetoomuchOmega6already,andweliketokeepanideal rationofOmega6toOmega3.Iknowthebookcitessomenumbers.Whatthatratiois,ishighly debated.Werenotreallysure.But,mostWesterndietsareextremelyskewedtowardtheOmega6 comparedtoOmega3. So,peoplewillsupplementwithlikeafishoiloraflaxseedoiltotryto evenoutthatratio. Doesthatmakessenseonthatpart? Yes. Yeah,thatmakessense.

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Okay.Andthen,Imtryingtorememberwhatwasyouroriginalquestion.Whatwasyour questiononthatagain? No,thatwasit.Ifthebodycantmakeit,howdowegetit,andyouansweredthat.Youkeep mentioningtheWesterntheotherpartsoftheworldareapparentlymorebalancedthanweareinthe 6andthe3s? Ingeneral,yes.But,anyWell,Ishouldsaytheyusedtobe.Unfortunately,almostany industrializedcountryisscrewedupintermsoftheirbalance.Ifyoulookatmore,Iguessforlackofa betterword,primitivecultures,theyseemtobeprettyclose.Andthatswherethedebateofwhatthe idealratiogetskindgetsthrownaround,becausedifferentcultureshavedifferentratios. Forexample,ifyoupullsometribesfromPolynesianandyoupullsomepullsomeoftheoriginal InuitorEskimopeople,theyhavedifferentratiosofOmega6toOmega3.So,itsdebatableastowhat issortoftheperfectratio.Prettymuchacrosstheboardassocietiesbecomemoreindustrializedor adoptmoreofaWesterntypediet,morefastfood,morefinegrains,thatsortofthing,moreprocessed foods,theratioofOmega6toOmega3getsskewedmuchmoretowardsOmega6. So,inmodernsociety,evenintheUS,itsprettymuchItmakessense,right?Becauseifyou lookandsay,WhataretheprimarysourcesofOmega3s?Thereducedformisgoingtobeinfatty fish.Plantsourcewouldbeflaxseedoil.Thatsaboutit,Imean,inquantitiesthatyouregoingtoneed.

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Ifyoulookaround,mostpeoplearenteatingalotofthosethings.Therearemorepeople eatingfishnow.But,ingeneral,mostpeopledonteatalotofthosethings.So,itmakessensethat theirdietwouldbedeficientinit. Youcanargueifyougetlikegrassfedbeefandthatsortofthing,theratioofOmega6to Omega3isactuallymuchbetter.So,thatwouldbeanothermethod. WhydoesgrassfedbeefifthatanOmega3

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Well,theratioisbetter.Unfortunately,mostbeefintheUS,thecowsarefedcorn.Ironically, cowsarentreallymadetodigestcorn.So,ifyoujustlookattheirdiet,right?Theresnotalotof Omega3,Omega6inthecorn.So,ifyoudotheanalysis,youdfindthattheresnotmuchinthebeef, also. So,youresayingthoughtheyregetting,thecowsaregettingsomegrassfedcowsaregetting someOmega3,so Yeah,theyreactuallyabletoconvertmoreofit.Granted,itsnotgoingtobelikesuperhigh amounts.YourenevergoingtohavelikeagrassfedcowthathastheOmega3content,ofsay,likea salmon.Itshigherthaniftheywerejustfedtheirstandardcorndiet.Whichmayexplainwhy,ifyou lookmorelikeatNativeAmericanpopulationsandthatsortofthing,sincetheyeatmorewildanimals andbisonandthatsortofthing,thattheratiostheretendtonotbeasskewedaswhatwehaveinmore modernsociety,Iguess. So,fromapracticallevel,IactuallyhavemostpeoplesupplementwithanOmega3andIusually havethemstartoffwithjustafishoil.Whenyourelookingatfishoils,theyllvaryincontent,like acrosstheboard,whichdrivesmenuts.Peoplewillsay,Oh,justtakefourcapsulesoffishoil.Well, fourcapsulescouldbealmostnothingintermsofEPAandDHA.Or,itcouldbeafairamount. So,whenyourelookingatthem,whatyoureallyneedtolookatisonthelabel,itwillsay Omega3andbelowthatitshouldsayDHAandEPA.Thatsthetotalthatyouwanttolookat.So,for example,IhavesomeBiotestFlameouthere.DHAis2,200milligrams,soabout2.2grams.EPA,880 milligrams,soabout.8grams.So,forfourcapsules,thatgivesmeabout3gramsoftheactualfishoils themselves,DHAandEPA. ThatsprobablyoneofthemoreconcentratedonesIveseeninacapsule.TheotheroneIuse thatIlikeisCarlsonsliquidfishoil.Ittasteslikelemon.Itactuallydoesnttastetoobadandtheburps kindoftastelikelemonPledgeonceinawhile.But,notbad. Theyalsohaveorange,whichtastesgood.

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Yeah,Iheardtheorangeisactuallybetter.Iknowguysthatlikeputitontheirsaladforlikea dressing.So,thatone,perteaspoon,EPAis800milligrams,DHAis500,about1.3gramsperteaspoon. So,usuallywhenIhavepeoplestartinitially,Illhavethemtakeaboutfourtosixgramsoffishoil,thats EPAandDHA.ThatsifIlookattheirdietandseetheybasicallyhavenoOmega3sandnofishoils. 5

TheonlysideeffectthatIwouldsayanytimeyourecommendanysupplement,theywantto makesuretheyclearitwiththeirphysician.Fishoilsingeneraldontseemtohavemanyreactionsto manydrugs.Although,Ihigherdoses,theycanbeabloodthinner.So,ifyouhavepatientsthatareon Coumadinorothersortsofdrugstothintheirblood,especiallyolderpatientsthatmayhaveatria fibrillation,youdefinitelywanttohavethemcheckwiththeirphysician. Oncetheyvebeenonfishoils,iftheywanttouseanotheroilasasupplementtheycanbuyto trytogetabetterratioofOmega3toOmega3toOmega6,IuseUdosOilBlend.UdosOil3.6.9 Blend.Thatsactuallyablendoflikeflaxandsunflower,sesame,coconut,primroseoilandthatsortof thing.So,thatstryingtogetamorehealthybalanceofOmega3,Omega6andOmega9. ThereasonInormallyhavepeoplestartwithafishoilisbecausetheconversionoftheOmega3 tothefishoils,inmostpeople,itsjustdebatable.Itseemstobenotthebest.So,initially,ifwecantry togettheirOmega3up,thenafterthatsbeenupforawhile,andworkingonhavingthemeatbetter, theniftheywanttoswitchtoamorebalanceoil,thatsprobablyalittlebitbetterwaytogo. Howlongwouldthatbethatyouresayingthatittakestogettheir

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Itsallkindofaguess,tobehonest.Iusuallyhavethemdohighamountsoffishoilforlikefour tosixweeks,sometimeseightweeks.Afterthat,usuallyaround2gramsoffishoil,probably somewherearoundthere. Theotherthingyouwanttolookat,too,isiftheydonthaveanyrestrictionsfromtheir physician.Isthereanychangeintheirsymptoms?Mostpeopleingeneralwill,afterabouteightweeks, feelbetter.Usuallytheirmoodwillbealittlebetter,theyllhavealittlemoreenergy.Alotoftimes jointpainandsortofnagginglittlepainstheyvehadusuallywillgoaway. Theonesthatstarttoseethosethings,thenIgo,Okay,nowIcanprobablystartcuttingyou backalittlebit.Ifyoucutthembackalittlebitandtheyhaventdoneanythingelseandakindofweird jointpainstartsshowingupagain,gobackupagainalittlebitandseeifitgoesawaythen. Okay.

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Thatsarealcrudeindicator.Iknowthebooktalksaboutsomewaysitcanactuallymeasure levelsinthebloodandtherearesomenewsteststheycanlookat,fattyacidcontentandredbloodcells andstuff.But,ImsurewellprobablytalkmoreaboutthatintheactualcourseinJuly.But,thatssort ofaroughindicatoryoucanuse. Okay.

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Andthen,thenextonetalksaboutonpage4.3.Theyrejustgoingalittlebitfurtherintothe cascadeanditsjustshowingyouwhereyoucanactuallyinteractwithit.So,forexample,table4.2dida littlebetterjobofthat.So,anditwillprobablytalkmoreaboutthisinthecourse,Iwouldimagine.

So,ifyouhavepeoplethatareonalotofNSAIDs,thatsanotherreasontofishoils,EPAand DHAworkreallywell.Ifyouwanttouselikeherbsandthatsortofthing,theylistgingerandturmeric, whichIveusedbeforeandtheyseemtoworkprettygood.Andtheotheronestheylistareonthetop part,fortheotherpathway,vitaminEandanotherone. So,thetakeawayfromthatisitsshowingthattheresdifferentpathwaysyoucantrytointeract withittotryanddriveitinonedirection.Inessence,youwanteverythingtobeprettybalanced.I mean,theycameoutwithsomeprettyheavydrugsthatwereselectiveCOX2inhibitorsandallthatkind ofstuff,andingeneral,theyprobablywerentthebestlongtermforpeople. So,likemostthings,moderationisgood.So,evenhavingsomearachidonicacidinyourdiet,I think,isprobablyagoodthing.HavingagoodratioofOmega6toOmega3isgoingtobemoreideal, also. Thelastpartofthereviewis,ittalkedaboutthedifferencebetweencisversustrans.Allthat reallymeansis,theresadiagramon4.5.ItjustreferstoItsactuallytheexactmakemoleculeandit justreferstotheconfirmationorwhatitlookslike.So,youcanseeonthecisonthetop,thetranson thebottomandinessence,thelittlebottomtherejustgotsortofflippedtheotherway.So,the chemicalname,ifyouwritedownthename,ofthosetwoisactuallyidentical.Theoneiswhatscalled thecisconfiguration,theotheronescalledthetransconfiguration. Whathappensisifyoutakemostnaturaloilsandyouheatthemuptoahightemperature,you inessenceformtransfattyacids,whicheveryoneprettymuchagreesnowareprettyevil.Therearent toomanythingsthatpeoplewouldagreethatyouprobablyshouldhavemuchinyourdiet,butIwould definitelytrytolimittransfattyacids.

Theshortansweronthatisthatitsnotanaturalconfigurationforalipidandyourbodyjusthas aheckofatimedealingwithitanditmucksupallsortsofmachinery.Anditreallyisntverymanytrans fattyacidsinnatureatall.Itsvery,veryslight. But,oilsthemselvesareactuallyveryfragile.So,ifyoubuyanyoillikeIknowliketheUdooil, itactuallycomesinadarkcontainer.Theyactuallyputnitrogeninthebottlebeforetheysealitand thenafteryouopenit,youwanttomakesureyoukeepitinthefridge. Wehaveonequestionabout,whathappenswhentheoilgoesbad?Ididalittleexperimentin college.Istartedreadingaboutoilsandstuff.AgoodbookisUdoErasmusbookcalled,FatstheHeal, FatsthatKill.Itcameoutlikeseveralyearsago.Itsactuallyreallywelldone.Hegoesthroughthe wholehistoryofdevelopmentofcommerciallyavailableoilsandeverything. AfterreadingthatImlike,Wow!Thisflaxoil,thismustbesomegoodstuff.So,Iwenttothe healthfoodstoreandboughtsome.ItrieditandImgoing,Thisstufftastesjusthorrible.Imlike, Howdopeopledrinkthisstuff?Thisisdisgusting.Imlike,Oh,well,keeptryingit.Afterawhileit justwassobadandImlike,Thisdoesntdoanythingforme.Ifeelworse.So,Imlike,Screwit.

So,Ididntuseitforawhile.Istartedreadingsomemoreaboutitagain,anothereightmonths toayearlater.Ithought,Allright.Illtryitagain.IrealizedthisstuffIboughtthefirsttimehad actuallygonebad.IhadneverhaditbeforeandIfiguredthiswasthewayitwassupposedtobe.So, whenoilgoesbad,youllknowrightaway.Ittastessortofrancid,ittastesbad. Flaxoilormostofthenaturaloilskindofhavealittlebitofanuttierkindoftastetothem,I guess.Theyshouldnthavelikethishorribleaftertaste.Therearesomeflaxseeds,therearesomeflax oilsyoucanbuythatjustsitonthestoreshelf.Idontknow,thatalwayskindofscaresme.oils themselvesarenotrealstable.So,youhavetomakesurethattheyrenotexposedtolightandtheyre keptinthefridge. Youcanactuallyfreezethemthough.So,ifyoubuylikealargecontainerlikeIbuythebigger containersofUdosOilandjustputhalfinoneoftheoldcontainersandputitinthefridgeandthe otherhalfIputbackinthefreezer.So,theyactuallykeepforquiteawhileinthefreezer.Youcando thesamewithfishoil,too.So,ifyouhaveclientsthatgetthefishurps,oneofthethingsyoucandois putthecapsulesinthefridgeandthatseemstohelpformostofthem. Mike? Yeah.

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Whatactuallyhappenslikeifyouweretoeatlikerancidlikechokeitdownorwhatever. WhatactuallyLike,doesyourbodynotuseitatall?Doesitjustdisposeofitorwhat? Yeah,Ithinkitwilldisposeofit.But,Iwouldimaginethattheamountoffreeradicalsgenerated fromthat,intheory,wouldbemuchhigher,becausetheoilitselfisalreadydamaged.Andsonowyour bodyshavingtodealwithsomethingthatwassortofnatural,atonepoint.So,Iwouldimaginethatthe amountoffreeradicalsgeneratedfromitwouldprobablybemuchhigher.So,itsgoingtokillyou,but itwouldntbeagoodidea. Allright,cool. Yeah.

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Sonow,evenifyoubuylikeoliveoilorsomethinglikethat,shouldyouactuallyreallykeepitin therefrigerator? Yeah.Oliveoilisoneoftheonlyoilsthatisgoodforyou,andactuallystableatroom temperature.Becauseitsamonounsaturated,itisactuallyMostoftheoliveoilsyoubuyarealready inadarktintedbottle.Andsothatsonethingtolookfor.Andthenusually,youllkeepitina cupboard.So,thatmakesitdarksotheresnotmuchlightgettingthrough.AllthestuffIveseensays thatthoseoilsareactually,oneofthefewthatareactuallystableatroomtemperatureformany months. Oh,okay.Good. 8

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Yeah,whichisgood.Whenyoulookinthestoreandyouseelikecanolaoilandyouseecornoil andyouseealltheseoils,whattheydointheprocessingisthattheyreusuallyheavychemicalsare usedorextremelyhighheatsandallthisotherstuff.Inessence,theydamagetheoiltomakeitstable ontheshelf. So,likethecornoilyoubuyinthestorecantgobad,becauseinessenceitsalreadysortof beenbad.Andthen,theydotheseotherprocessestomakeittolerable.Noonesgoingtouseitifit tasteshorrible.But,wecanremovesomeofthatotherstuff.So,yeah,whichiskindofironic,Ifind. Youcanlookatwhenmassoilswereintroducedanditsortofparallels,youknow,healthstarted todeterioratearoundthesametime,too.Youcansaythesamethingofrefinedcarbohydratesandthat sortofthing,too.Itsnotcausative,butyoudefinitelyseetrendsaroundthesametime. IswalnutoilagoodwaytogetsomeOmega6intoyourdiet?

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Yeah,actuallyitis.Walnutoilisgood.YoucanactuallyThecoolpartismostofthemainoils youcanfindinthestorenow,inmosthealthfoodstores,thethingyouwanttolookatwhenyoure lookingatthebottleisYeah,somepeoplepreferorganicversusnonorganic.Itskindofmoreofa personalchoice.Youwanttolooktoseehowtheoilisactuallyprepared. Forexample,thisonesays,Usetentotwelveweeksafteropeningandrefrigerateasbottlehas innergasforfreshness,andittellsyouhowmuchitcontainsofeachone.Thisoneisactuallyexpeller pressed.So,thethingsyouwanttomakesureisthattheprocessthattheyuseddoesntusealotof refinement,anddoesntusealotofextremehighpressures,andextremehighheats.Mostofthe betteroils,youllsee,likethisonesays,expellerpressedandthatsortofthing. So,expellersjustcrushtheseeds.But,dotheygenerateheatinexpellers?Or,coulditjustbe coldpressed? Yeah,theycanactually.IfyoureadUdosbook,itkindofgoesintothislongdiscussionabout that.So,expellerpress,inandofitself,doesntnecessarilyguaranteethatitsloworhighheat.My understandingisthatsomeofthemassoilsareexpellerpressed.But,theprocesstheyusegenerates massiveamountsofheat,also. So,generally,youwanttomakesurethatitsdoneinalowerheatenvironment.Mostofthe betteroilsusuallyare.Theyshouldbekindofalittlebitcloudy.Ifyoulookattheoilslikeontheshelf, theyjustlookliketheyretooperfect.Theyjustlikeoflooklikealwaysthesameconsistencyandyeah. So,thatsjustsomethingelsetolookfor.Andalwayskeeptheminthefridge,makesureyouprobably usethemupwithinrelativetimeperiodaftertheyvebeenopened,too. Youmeanthingslikecornoil?Or,youmeananykindoftheoilsbesidesoliveoil?

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Yeah,exceptoliveoil,correct.Yeah,oliveoilistheonethatsactuallystableatshelflife basically,justatroomtemperature.But,Idstayawayfromallprettymuchthemass,likecornoils,

prettymuchanythingyougodownlikethecookingaisle,thatyoucanbuyofftheshelfthatdoesnt needtoberefrigerated,youcanstoreinyourcupboardthatsnotoliveoil.Iwouldntuseit. ??: Howabouttheonecompanythatdoesmakelikewalnutoilthatsexpellerpressed?Canyou trustthat? Yeah,butImean,ifitsmepersonally,IlookattheirwebsiteandlookatittoseewhatdetailsI canfindontheprocess.MostofthebettercompanieslikeSpectrumandIknowUdosandFloraand someoftheotheronesare,fromwhatIvecheckedinto,asbestasIcantell.Idonttourtheirfacilities oranything.But,theirprocessesseemtobeprettygood. Okay.But,youdkeepthoseinthefridge?

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Ido,yeah.Because,therealityisthatthefridgeisjustgoingtoslowdowntheinteractionwith oxygen. Oh,okay.

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Evenfishoils,Istillkeepinthefridge.Forexample,IknowliketheBiotestones,theFlameout, whichisafishoilcapsule,comesinadarkbottleandinmanufacturingtheyactuallyputnitrogenand theyreplacetheoxygeninthefilledcontainersothatwaytheycansellitandithasashelflifebeforeits opened.But,onceitsopened,theyrecommendtorefrigerateit,becausenowyouveexposeditto oxygenanditcandegradealittlebit,oxidize. Okay.

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Mike,justoutofcuriosity,asImlookingatafishoil.Theyhavethethreestarsthatsaysdaily valuenotestablishedforEPAandDHA.Whatdoesthatmean? Thereisntone. Okay. Yeah. So,howdoyouknowwhatyouaregettingthen?

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Right.ImtryingtolooktoseeiftheylistforOmega3sonhere.Yeah,mostofthemwilljust showsaturatedandIthinktheyactually,onthelabel,havetolabeltransfatnow.Otherthanthat,the labelitselfIdontthinkhastobreakitdownanyfurtherthanthat.Ifyouseesomething,ifyoure buyingafishoilanditdoesntevenbothertolistDHAorEPA,Iwouldntbuyit.Yourenotreallysure whatsinthere. Theresalwaysthedebateabouthowmuchmoneyshouldyouspendonoilsandwhataregood andwhatarebad.Mythoughtisthattheyreoneofthefewthingsthatwilldirectlyendupinpretty mucheverycellinyourbody.Oilsformthemembraneofbasicallyeverycellinyourbody. 10

Likethebookmentions,ifyoulookatmyelin,thecoveringofthenerves,thatsalmostall essentialfats.AlotofitOmega3derived.So,inmyopinion,ifitsreallynotthatmuchmore.Illspend afewextrabucksonit.Imean,aretheoilsthatpeoplebuyatCostcoforfishoilandstuffprobablyfine? Idontknow,probablyokay.But,mepersonally,Illspendafewextrabucks. ??: MN: Okay.

Wehadaquestionaboutmonounsaturated,whichisprimarilyoliveoil.Wetalkedaboutwhere youcangetsomeOmega3sversusOmega6.Islinoleicacid,orGLAthesameasapolyunsaturated Omega6orarachidonicacid?IbelieveOmega6isusedforinflammation,butexcessisharmful.Yep. Thatscorrect.So,itsabalanceofOmega6toOmega3. Ithinktherewasevenanewpaperthatcameoutthatwastalkingaboutthatitshouldbea balance.Becausefornow,forawhile,everyonesallexcitedaboutfishoilsandintheory,youcould havetoomuchOmega3,whichintheorycouldalsobebad.Mostpeopleprobablydonthavetoworry aboutthat.ButandIllsendouttheMP3whereittalksaboutarachidonicacidformusclegrowthand inflammation,becauseitsactuallyprettyinteresting. Ittalksaboutvisceralfatorharmful.Ingeneral,yes.Visceralfatisthefatthatsprimarily aroundyourmidsection.So,somenewstudiesshowingthatdependingonwhereyoustoreyourfathas differentmetabolicconsequences.Andvisceralfats,storedaroundtheorgans,isprobablymoreofa worsttypeoffatintermsofeffectsoninsulinandthatsortofthing. Theyask,WhataresafelevelsoftriglyceridesandHDL?Imsuretheyllprobablygoover moreofthatinthecourseitself.Ironically,themainthingistoincreaseHDListotalfatinyourdiet. Theresaquestionwealsohadaboutlowfatdietsanddotheywork.Inessence,alowfatdietwill decreasebloodlevelsofcholesterolusually.Imean,thatsnotaguaranteebecauserefined carbohydrateskindofscrewupthecancauseyourbodytoproducemorecholesterol. But,ingeneral,theydo.But,thebadpartisthattheyalsocanreduceHDLlevels.So,ifyou remember,HDLisactuallythegoodcholesterolandLDLissortofthebadcholesterol.So,ifIgoona lowfatdiet,Idonthavemanyfatscomingin,thereforeIdontreallyhavegoodessentialfatseither, andmyHDLlevelcanactuallygodown.So,thatskindofthedownsidetothat. IfyouwanttoincreaseyourHDLlevels,thefewbestthingsare,well,oneisgoodgenetics.HDL ishighlyrelatedtoyourgenetics.Thatwasshowintheheritagetrial.Theotheroneismoderate alcoholconsumption,whicheverybodyenjoys.Andjustprobablytheamountoffatsinyourdiet. AerobicexercisecanhelpHDLlevels,butitstoalesserdegree. OntheHDLsandtheLD,Hiswhenyouretalkingaboutabloodtest.Theyoftenwillshowthat onemightbeelevated,buttheysay,Oh,dontworryaboutitbecauseyourratiolooksgood.What doesthatactuallymean? Yeah,ifIwereaphysician,Iwouldmuchratherlookattheratio.So,youcanhavetwopeople whereletssaytheirLDLislike200.Bobcomesin,theLDLis200.LetssayhisHDL,forwhatever 11

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reason,especiallyifhesmale,islike65,prettygood.Now,BobsbrothercomesinandhisLDListhe same,200.HisHDLislike30.Intheory,BobsbrotherwouldbeatahigherriskbecausehisLDListhe same,butnowhisHDL,hisgoodcholesterolisless.So,bytakingtheratio,theyrelookingattheratioof LDLtoHDLandthatsprobablymoreindicativeofwhatsactuallygoingon. Alotofphysician,unfortunately,onlylookatLDLlevelsandthatcanbeoffsetbyhavingreally highHDLlevel.So,yeah.Andthen,intotaltriglycerides,ifpeopleareputonfishoil,itcandramatically reducetheirtriglyceridelevels.TheresactuallyadrugcalledOmacor,whichisanethylmodificationof fishoils.Theydidthat,sonowtheycansellitasadrug.Itsonlyifyourtriglyceridesarereally,really high,canyougetaprescriptionforit.But,itsjustafishoil.Thatsallitis.Anditdoesdramatically decreasetriglyceridelevels. So,ifyouhavesomeonethatnotthatyoucandiagnoseorprescribeanything,iftheycome backtoyouandsay,Hey,Istartedtakingthisfishoilandallofasuddenmytriglyceridelevelsareway less.Thatsactuallyprettycommon. WetalkedalittlebitabouttheratioofOmega6toOmega3.Agoodquestionabout cholesterolismade,whathappensifweeatcholesterol?Well,thetheorywasalwaysthatifweeat morecholesterol,ourbloodlevelsofcholesterolaregoingtobehigh.Andthatwasprimarilybasedoff ofsomeearlystudies,TheSevenCountriesstudybyAncelKeysisprobablythemainoneforthat.And newresearchshowsthatsprobablynotreallytrue. Anyonewhosbeenaroundlongenoughremembers,Oh,yeah!Eggsarebad.Eggsare horrible.Eggshavetonsofcholesterol.Evil!Donteateggs.Andthen,theydidabunchoffollowup studiesandfoundyoucanprettymucheatallthedarnedeatsyouwant.Inmostpeople,itdoesntraise theirbloodcholesterollevels,muchatall.So,nowtheyresaying,Oh,eggsareokay,again.So,in theory,itseemsironic,butintakeofcholesteroldoesntseemtocorrelaterealwell,inmostpeople,toI wouldsaybloodlevelsofcholesterol. Theresafairamountofstudiesactuallydoneinlowcarbohydratediets,likeJeffVolekslab. Andinthosepeople,solikesortofyourAdkinstypeperson,youcaneatalotofsaturatedfat,itdoesnt reallyseemtoaffectbloodcholesterollevelsatall,really.Thatskindofalittlecounterintuitive,and probablystillhighlydebatable. But,ifyoureworkingwithsomeonewhoisreallyafraidofit,again,justdoasimpletest.Ask themwhentheyregoingtogobacktotheirdoctoragain,maybechangetheirdietandthenhavethem remeasuretheircholesterol,seewhereitsat.Yourealwaysgoingtohavesomegeneticpeoplewhere itsprobablygoingtobeanissue.But,thatwouldbeonewaytofigureoutinthatparticularpersonifit wouldbeanissueornot. ??: Iwaskindofwondering,becausesomanypeopleeateggwhitesandtheydonteattheyolk.I seeaholisticdoctorandshesaidtheyolkshavesomuchvalue,qualityfoodvalue.Andthen,Iwentin andlookedupeggsandhowmuchproteintheyhadinthem,andseriously,itwasreallyweird.You knowhowyouweretalkingabouttheproteinshakes?AndIstartedlookingatthat,anditwaslike,18 12

gramsofproteininonescoopofthisproteinshake,whichiskindoflikeprobablyamediumpowerful proteinshake.Andanotheronehad25perscoopoftheprotein.Theegghad6.75.AndIwaslike, wow! Now,youwouldthinkthatthenaturalfoodswithlikethesuchhighqualityproteinSo,Ijust hadsuchaquestionaboutthat,andthenhowthatrelatedtothefatpiece,too. Yeah,ifyoulookatit,mostlytheeggwhitesiswhereactuallymostoftheproteinis. Oh,itis?

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Yeah.But,Iwouldarguethategg,asawhole,is,intermsofafood,isprettyhighupthere.We knowthateggproteinisprobablyoneofthehighestproteinsaround.Iknowpeopleusedtogetall worriedabouttheyolksbecauseofthehigherfatcontentandthecholesterol,buttheresbeenawhole bunchofstudiesthatshowthatthatjustdoesntseemtobetrue.Iwouldsaymostpeopleeatyour wholeeggsanddontworryaboutit. Yeah,okay.

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Ifpeoplewanttogetreallycrazy,youcanWhatIdoissometimesdoyoucanbuyalready refinedeggwhites.TheresabrandcalledPepitos.Justthrowocoupleofwholeeggsinwiththatand youcanaddsomeeggwhitestoitthatway,ifyouwant.Thatsanotheroption. Havealittlebitmoredilutedeggyolk,youmean,sortof? Right,right.

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Whenyouretalkingaboutpeoplethataregeneticallyhavegeneticallyhighcholesterol,could thatbeIknowoneofmyquestionswas,Imean,ratherthanjustItjustseemslikeallthemedical professionjustwriteitoff,Well,thatsjustyourgenetics.Whataboutitisthatyourhormonesthat aregivingyourhighcholesterol,Imean,whatTheresstillgottobeacauseofit,eventhoughif youreinheritedit.YouknowwhatImean? Yeah.Idontthinkitsfullyunderstoodyet.Imean,Ithinkalotofitprobablyhastodowith theenzymesandthewholeregulationprocessofcholesterolinyourbody.Theyveactuallytriedto createdrugstopreventyourbodyfromconvertingcertainsubstancesintocholesterol.Sofar,asfarasI cansee,thosedrugshavefailedmostoftheirtrialsbecauseofsideeffects. So,yeah,theresalwaysAndthenyoucouldevenarguefurther,well,letssayyouhavehigh cholesterol,butyouhavealmostnootherriskfactorsforcoronaryarterydisease.Whatriskareyouat? Inmybiasedopinion,probablynotsuperhigh.Youprobablywontfindmostcardiologiststhatwould agreewiththat.But,yeah,itsstill But,ifsomebodydoesnthaveanyotherriskfactorsandtheyhavehighcholesterolandtheyve dohave,infact,heartdisease,Imean,whatdoesthatmean?

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Idontknow,tobehonest.Imean,theycouldhavesomeweirdgeneticthingwheretheirbody justmakesmorecholesterol.Idprobablylookattheirdiet.Idprobablytryafewthingswiththeirdiet, makingachangeandthenhavingtheircholesteroltakenagaininfourtoeightweeks,orwhatever,and seeifitmakesanydifferencethatway.But,yeah,Idontknowonthat,tobehonest.Imeanalotofit isstillkindofmisunderstood,Ithink.Or,notsureyet. Yeah.Well,becauseIknowoneofmyquestionswas,theysaidinthebook,cholesteroland maybeyouregettingtothis.So,Iapologize. Thatsallright. Ifcholesterolcanformcortisol,Imean,whatsthatallabout,too?

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Yeah.Ifyoulookatcholesterolandyoulookatwhereitcanactuallyendupinthebody,Ithink theyhadadiagramofthat,didntthey?Yeah,4.9.Cholesterolislikehighlynecessarybythebody.Its actuallyneeded.Yourbodycanactuallymakeit.So,itsnotlikeweabsolutelyneedtogetitfromour diet.Andbasically,cholesterolisthebuildingblockforalmosteveryhormoneinthebody.Notevery one,butalot,fromyourglucocorticoids,likecortisol,estrogens,androgens,ifyoulookontheside. Thehardpartis,dependingonwhichwayyougothroughthepath,Imean,yourealreadyat one,two,three,four,five,probablyatleastfivereactionsbeforeyouevencanenduptoprobablythe closestendmolecule.So,youcouldhaveeverythingfromaldosteronetocortisoltoestradiolto testosterone.Itsneeded,buttryingtopredictwherethatprocessisgoingtogoisreallydifficult. So,yeah,Imean,ischolesterolrelatedtocortisol?Yeah.But,thatdoesntmeanthattaking moreorlesscholesterolwillnecessarilyhaveaneffectuponit. Sure. Thatssubjecttomanyotherreactionsalongtheway. Whatdidyousayitisabuildingblockof? Sayagain?

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YousaidcholesterolisbasicallyabuildingblockofalmosteveryotherIdidnthearwhatthat partwasabout,inthebody. Oh,yeah.Itsabuildingblockofalmosteveryhormone. Hormone,okay.Gotyou.

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Yeah.Youcanstartlikeon4.9.Youcanstartwithcholesterolandyoucanendupwith testosterone,estradiol,esterone,cortisolandaldosterone,whichisactuallyusedinrelationtowater levelsandfluidlevelsandthatsortofthing.So,yeah.

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Mike,doesthatgobacktowhereyouweresayingfatgoestobasicallyeverypartofthebody? Isthatwhatthatkindofisrelatedto? Yeah,thatsactuallymorerelatedtovery,veryfinescale.Ifyoulookateverycellmembranein yourbodyitsbasicallywhattheycallbilipidlayer.Itsbasicallymadeoutofsmallmoleculesoffat.So, prettymucheverymembraneinyourbodyhasfatinit.So,youtakeallthosemembranesthatsurround cellsandyoutakeawholebunchofthoseandcombinethemwithotherthingsandyoureuptothe buildingblocksofeverythinginyourbody. Myquestionwas,weweretalkingaboutsupplementsandyoutalkaboutthecholesterol formingthehormonesaswell.But,likeproteinsandfatsandcarbs,themoresupplementswetake,will thatcutdownonthebodysabilitytomakeitsown? Yeah,itsoneofthosequestionswereitreallydependsonwhatitis.Imean,thatsalwaysthe argument.Theargumentcanbetwofold,likewekindoftalkedaboutlastweek.So,ifItakeinmore proteins,forexample,wereallmaybeworriedaboutkidneylevels.So,thekidneysmayhavetowork hardertodealwiththeextraproteinload. So,theonesideoftheargumentis,itsbad.Thatsmoreworkforthekidneys.Itsnotsogood, theycanthandleit,alotofbadissues.Theotherargumentis,hey,thekidneyadaptstoitjustlike musclesadapttoweighttraining,anditgetsbetteranditcanhandleitandwedonthaveanyissue. Youcouldpointtovarioussystemsinthebody.Thatcouldgoeitherdirection,andprobablywill, dependinguponcertainconditions.Ingeneral,ifyouweretogeneralize,Idsayitsusuallymoreofthe later.Imean,usuallyyourbodycanadaptinmoreofapositivewaytomostthings. Forexample,youcangodonateakidneyandstillworkfineoffofonekidney.Theotheroneup regulatesandseemstodojustfine.So,yeah,dependingonthesubstanceandallthatstuff,Imean,the sameargumentsaremadewithcreatine.Right?Youtakecreatinemonohydrate,doesthatmeanyour bodysgoingtoactuallyshutdowntheproductionofcreatineonitsown.Itdoesntseemto.Theres maybesomechanges,transporters,butthatskindofdebatable. So,yeah,theresnotreallyaneasyanswerwiththat.Thatskindofmoreofacasebycase basis. Itsprobablyindividuals,too,ongenetics.

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Icanbe,yeah,basedongeneticsandwhatstressestheyhaveontheirbodyandarethey diabeticorwhatconditionstheyhaveandthatsortofthing.So,yeah,notaneasyansweronthatone. Thequestionis,wetalkedaboutadvantagestolowfatdiets.Isitbettertohavefatinthe morningoratnight?Idprobablygo,ifIhadachoice,probablydoesntmattermuch.Kindofwhatwe talkedaboutlasttime,theressomedatatoshowthatinsulinsensitivitygetsworsethroughouttheday. So,youmaybebetterofftaperingcarbohydratestowardsnight.So,thatwouldbeproteinwould probablyremainaboutthesame,andprobablyincreasingfatsalittlebitmore.

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IknowDr.LonnieLoweryswrittenafairamountaboutthat,whichhecallstemporalnutrition. Itsjusttryingtocustomizeyournutritiontothetimeoftheday.Itsprobablyanokayidea.But,people havetolearnhowtofigure,Igoteverythingintactalreadyandtheyreeatingwell,itsprobably somethingyoucanplayaroundwith.Thecaveattothatisifyouexerciseatnight,weknowthatafter exercise,ingeneral,insulinsensitivityismuchbetter.So,thatkindofwouldchangethatalittlebit. So,ingeneral,ifyouhadachoice,fatisprobablyalittlemoreatnightisprobablyalittlebit betterwaytogo.Itsdebatableabouthowlongittakes. Okay.

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Letssee,whatelsedowegot?Theresanotherquestionabout,thebooktalkedabout relationshipofcaffeineandtheuseoffats,Ithinktheyweretalkingabout.Thetheorywiththatisthat initiallycaffeinewasclassifiedasmoreonergogenicaid,itincreasesperformance.Andthiswasduring longdistanceevents,likewehadtalkedaboutinthepast,likemarathons. Thetheorywasthatitincreasesyourlypolysis,soyourbodysbreakdownoffats.Iftheres morefatsrunningaroundintheblood,yourbodyshouldthenbeabletousethemmoreforenergy.So, intermsof,letssay,yourerunningamarathon.Thatshouldhelpperformancebecauseitsgoingto spareglycogen,thestoredformofcarbohydratesinyourmuscle.Thetechnicaltermforthatiscalled theRandalEffect,thatstheguywhodiscoveredit. Moststudiessaythatprobablydoesntmatter.Caffeineinhighdosemayhavesomeeffectlike that.But,its,intermsofenhancingperformance,stillseemstobekindof,probablynot.Someother studieshaveshownthatmostpeopledonthaveaproblemliberatingfatfromtheircells,theyhave moreofanissueofburningit.So,ifyoutakesomethinglikecaffeinethatincreasesyourbodysability togetthefatoutofcells,intotheblood,mostpeopleingeneraldontseemtohaveanissuewiththat stuff.So,itmightnotgiveyouabenefit.Although,caffeinecanhaveothereffectsinthebodybecause ofitsaffectsonthenervoussystemthroughadenocine,butthatsadifferentdiscussion. Twomorequestionshere.Ittalksaboutamediumchainfattyacids.Theyrekindofbecominga littlebitmorepopularnow.Iseealotofstuffwithlikecoconutoil.Thebooktalksalotaboutthem here.Ithinkitmaybeallright.Whentheyinitiallycameout,thefirstversionscameoutprobablylate 90sIthink.Andtheywerepromotedassortofthefatlessfatbecauseofthelesstransporterswere usedinitsabsorption.So,itwassupposedtobeanergogenicaid.So,youcouldtakethisfatandyoud havequicksustainedenergy,butyouwouldnthavethecrashlikeyouwouldwithcarbohydrates. Someoftheearlyversionstastedhorribleandifyoutooktheminhighenoughamounts,they gaveyousomeseveregastrointestinalissues.But,Ihaventtriedanyofthenewerversions.Iknow peopleusecoconutoilonoccasion.Ithinkthatsfine.Theonlythingaboutcoconutoilisthatitsanoil thatcantakehigherheat.Itiskindofconsideredasaturatedfat.

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Saturatedfatsforcookingareactuallymuchbetter.Theycantakemuchhigherheatswithout degrading.Youneverreallywanttocookwithflaxoranythinglikethat.Itjustdegradestoofastunder ahighheat. Mike? Yeah,goahead.

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Couldyouelaboratealittlemoreonthesentenceinthebookthattalksaboutmediumchain fattyacidsbeingmetabolized,andtheenergyasquicklyasglucose? Yeah.Thereasonforthatisthattheydontseemtotakethesametransportersthatotherfats do.Ifyoulookatcarbohydrates,ingeneral,theyllgointoenergyorshowupinthebloodmuchfaster thanmostfats.Andthathastodowithalittlebitofthewaytheyrebrokendown.Imean,someofthe carbohydratesyoucangetreallyfancyandlookat,forexample,oneofthemislikeawaxymaizeorhigh molecularweightcarbohydrate.Andtheamountofwateritcanpullinandtheosmolarityandallthis otherstuff.Which,thetheoryisthatitwillbeabsorbedfaster. Tomyunderstanding,withthemediumchainonesisbecausetheyresortofbypassingsomeof thesamesystemsthatotherfatswouldhavetousetobetransportedandpickedup,thattheyshould beabletoshowupinthebloodtobeusedasenergymuchsooner.So,thatwaskindofmy understandingofthat. Idontreallyknowifthatisreallygoingtohavemuchofaneffectintermsofperformance.I haventlookatanyofthenewerstudiesonthose,tobehonest.So,Icantsay.Ihaventseenanything thatwaslike,Ooh.Amazing!But,theremaybesomenewerdata.Ihaventreallylooked,tobe honest. Allright.

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Idontknowifthatanswersyourquestion?Ifyouhaveafollowupquestiononitdropmean emailandwellgetyouananswer. Allright.Ihavesomecoconutoil,soIlljustmixitwithsugarandgiveitashot. Oh,yeah,thereyougo.Letmeknowhowitgoes.Wecouldhaveanewproduct! Alotofpeopletalkupcoconutoil.Coconutmilkandcoconuteverything.

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Yeah,itsIdontknow.Imean,Ithinkitsfine.But,Iwouldmuchrather,ifpeoplehada choice,Idmuchratherhavethemgettheiressentialfattyacidsinorderfirst.Andiftheystillhaveroom intheirdiet,toaddsomemorefatsin.Ithinkitsfine.Imean,Idontthinkitsprobablyasgreatasits advertised,tobehonest.Nothingreallyis,usually.But,Ithinkifpeoplehavetheiressentialfattyacids down,theratios,itsinorder,Ithinkitsfine.Idontthinkitsbad.Imean,itdoesntseemtohavetoo muchofaneffectonbloodcholesterollevels,either.But,thetasteisusuallyprettygood.Itseasyto cookwith.Itcanwithstandhighheats.So,itdoeshavesomeniceproperties. 17

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Ithinkthatcoversmostofit,ormostofthequestionshere.Thelastquestionaboutinsulin resistance,causesthepancreastosecretemoreinsulin?Yep.Ifthepancreasdoesntproduceenough insulin,doessilentinflammationincrease,increasingfreeradicalsandwhatcanbedonetopreventthis? Yeah.Thatsaloadedquestion.Itskindoflike,whatcamefirst,thechickenortheegg?Its hardtosaybecauseinflammationisrelatedtoprettymucheveryprocessinthebody.Imean,the newerstuffyoureadallthetimeshowsthatinsulinsortofgoneawrycancauseproblemsinpretty mucheverysysteminthebody. So,IwouldagreethatinsulinresistancecancontributetotypeIIdiabetes.Ithinktheyprobably bothsortoffeedoffeachother.Asyougetlevelstoohigh,everythingstartsgettingsortofskewed.Its hardtosaywhichonecausedwhat. Intermsofwhatcanbedonetopreventthis.Ingeneral,exercise,obviouslyhelps.Likewe talkedaboutlasttime,exercisedramaticallyhelpsinsulinsensitivity,whichisgood.Theresabunchof newerstudies,again,formJeffVolekslablookingatpeoplethatareboarderlinediabetic.Alow carbohydratedietisprobablyabetterwaytogowiththat,whichkindofmakessense.Ifyoure diabetic,youreallyhaveahardtimeprocessingcarbohydrates,youprobablyshouldnttakeinalotof carbohydrates.Iknowthatseemslikekindofcommonsense,butitsstillnotverywidelyaccepted. So,IthinkthatwasaquestionfromTom.So,ifhestillhasanyfollowuponthat,hecanshoot meanemailandwellgetyouananswertothat. Ithinkthatwasmostofit.So,anyonehaveanylastquestionsthere? So,Iguessoneotherquestionwasaboutavocados. Yeah.

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Andwithavocadosbethesameaslikeoliveoil?Wouldtheybefairlyequalintermsoflike havinghalfanavocadoinasalad.Isthatsomethingthatprovidesalso,Imean,reallyawesomefats?I dontknow.Isitlikeflaxseedinasense,thatkindofOmega Iwasjustlookinghere.ImtryingtorememberwhattheLetmelookhere.Idontremember whatthefatcontentis.IthinkitsprimarilyOmega6,ifIweretoguess. AvocadoisOmega3,Ithink.

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Isit?Yeah,thatmightbe.Herewego.Itsayspolyunsaturated.Yeah,itlookslikeitsprimarily monounsaturated.So,accordingtothis,saturated2grams,monounsaturated9.8andthen polyunsaturated1.8.So,yeah,sothatwoulddefinitelybeanothergoodsourceofmonounsaturated fats. Okay. 18

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So,likeoliveoil.So,youwerecorrect. Allright.Sweet. Yeah.Anythingelse?

Mike,whatwasthatyouwerelookingupon?Doyouhaveasecretsourceyougotoforallthat kindofstuff? No,IjusttypedinavocadoandwenttotheWikipediapage. Okay.Justchecking.

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Oh,yeah.Cool,well,ifthatsit,didyouYouguyswanttodropoffonthenewstuff?You haveaquestion,Marty,fromlastweek? Oh,youknow,Icanemailyou,Mike,ifthatsokay. Okay,yeah,thatsfine. Okay. Allright.Cool.Thanksguys.Seeya.

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