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step 3: Lath
It is traditional in ferrocement work to tie lath by hand. This gets old, real old! We used a pneumatic tool to tie our lath to remesh. Can you guess the difference in time savings by having this one tool? It was about 3x. We normally would lath 4 sheets a day by hand per person. Once we had the pneumatic gun we were doing 14 sheets a day. Still slow work, but easy and fun compared to lifting 40lb compressed earth blocks.
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step 5: Plastering
Our papercrete based plaster still leaves a lot to be desired. We ended up using a mix of prickly pear cactus juice, old house paint, 1 part paper, 1 part cement. Later there was plenty of cracking on the areas that received a great deal of sun. We have had better success in other types of paper plasters. We used a tirolessa sprayer which made easy work of plastering the inside and outside of the dome. This is another amazing time saving device and it works well with pretty much any type of finish from earthen lime plasters to heavy cement/sand mortars.
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Divet says:
Jan 30, 2009. 8:27 PM REPLY There are dome houses that are quickly built using an inflatable form. The interior is sprayed with insulation foam, then rebar is attached and covered with shotcrete. It only takes a few days to build a dome, but its not as green as your design.
sklarm says:
Jan 30, 2009. 9:24 PM REPLY I really like the inflatable form idea. We looked into making our own forms, borrowing them, and even just flat out ordering a pre-made. Our issue was that papercrete is a relatively weak material with a lengthy setup (compared to shotcrete mortars). Maybe one day we can find a way to utilize air forms with this material.
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Divet says:
Jan 31, 2009. 12:48 PM REPLY Bill Lishman williamlishman.com is one of the original proponents of dome houses. Ive always wondered how hard a job it was to raise and support the large metal trusses of his underground home, while it was being built. What sort of system are you using for your larger domes?
sklarm says:
Jan 31, 2009. 4:16 PM REPLY Our domes only scale to 20' diameter. This is based on a 20' long stick of rebar. We build the arches and set up in much the same way on these larger domes as we did on the battery dome. I have a flickr set this illustrates how we build and raise the arches. http://tinyurl.com/33y8lh
WonkotheSane says:
Jan 30, 2009. 11:15 AM REPLY This is awesome! I imagine that there are plans to replace some of the living structures on the property with similar building techniques? Have you had any code issues in your locality?
sklarm says:
Jan 30, 2009. 9:50 PM REPLY Our property was pretty much empty when we purchased it. We have permits to build four 20' diameter domes. We are about half way into the first. We do have code enforcement in our area. It is based on the IBC 2006. Since papercrete and ferrocement are both outside of the standard UL listed building materials we needed to employ a structural engineer to review our sketchup drawings. The engineer did not cost much ($100) and had some good suggestions which we incorporated into our design. Our building inspector was pleased about the engineers stamp as it removed him from direct liability. We have pulled permits and are working with our local inspector since this type of building is outside the norm.
dchall8 says:
I hope I'm not posting this twice. I've been having computer and browser problems today.
In the interest of speeding up and possibly improving, have you considered making a tipi instead of a dome? It takes a while to build/plan it but it goes up in a few minutes. If it's double walled (inner and outer) it has some special properties for conducting heat out. I used bamboo poles and plastic sheet to build one for my girls. As you know neither of those materials are naturally available in NM. You can probably find pine poles, but nothing comes to mind for the skin. No skin I can think of would be as durable as what you're using, but even the papercrete might not be permanent. The big tipi design the Sioux and Crow came up with after horses arrived is a good one.
fryek says:
Jan 30, 2009. 10:21 AM REPLY sounds nice... but a little confused... what happened to local building material? Paper is the aggregate for the cement... but what about the cement? I love cement (liquid rock) in its ability to do all sorts of cool things... but it is absolutely TERRIBLE for the environment! creating the stuff... terrible, packaging and trucking the stuff... terrible... and the use of excavated coral reefs near islands to make (not what you bought I'm sure... as it's just how its created when that's whats avail. on an island)... anyway... just food for thought I guess. Cool project though, but I was just a little confused as to the goal (if green... how about tamped earth with a lye based coating)?
sklarm says:
Jan 30, 2009. 1:16 PM REPLY I think the cement issue is a fascinating one. Can you build anything without the usage of Portland cement or type-s lime? I'm not sure that you can. Lime has a higher embodied energy than portland cement (more CO2 pollution) although it is preferred by many green builders over Portland. I like lime too. As far as embodied energy of Portland cement goes it is not nearly what you think. About 1lb of CO2 is produced for every 1lb of Portland used. It is therefore important be mindful of this high energy and only use what is necessary. The paper greatly reduces the need large amounts of cement. Another way to look at Portland cement is compared to a gallon of gas. Gasoline produces twice the CO2 per lb as portland cement. My question to the anticement world is "drive lately"?
fryek says:
not sure I understand the comparison of cement to gasoline?
as most cement is made with coal fired plants, or with oil, natural gas power... etc.? then it's driven using gasoline to many places for all of us to buy it and drive it again... My one lost point was that using a minimal amount of lime or even portland... maybe even flyash portland... with something like rammed earth... no welding required (more electricity)... ahh... I'm getting off topic... they built a nice structure which suits their purposes. I just don't want folks thinking that it's green simply because they substituted paper for the other aggregates/binders... the problem I see with greenwashing is that folks forget to look at the whole picture... no biggie. Just didn't want this to get immediately lumped in as "green" just because it uses paper... I'm sure it helps local pollution. I don't know how (if at all) it contributes to misuse of resources elsewhere.
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sklarm says:
Jan 30, 2009. 2:33 PM REPLY It is difficult to understand the total impact of a structure. Please permit me to try and share the data I could gather. Tapping into the waste stream for building materials is opening a big can of worms. There is a lot of confusion about reuse/recycling/upcycling/downcycling. What material is most appropriate or represents a complete waste of resource. We did a lot of leg work up front to understand what was going into this dome and where it came from. I apologize for my rather abstract comparison of cement to gasoline. What I was trying to do was create easy to visualize way to understand CO2 emissions from both. A bag Portland cement is equivalent to driving about 100 miles in a car in terms of CO2 emissions. Cement is also not driven far. I have two cement factories within 100 miles of my home. Nothing to brag about, just pointing out that those clinks are everywhere. Welding although used here is not required. It could just be all hand tied. This structure was welded to make the building process easier. The solar panels provide all the power for welding future domes (although not this one). The "green" part of this dome is the insulation. It takes no energy to keep constant temperature 60-80F. The paper was rescued from landfill or being hauled across state lines to be 'recycled'. The cement and rebar were local. The structure still takes has a higher embodied energy than rammed earth, but it has completely different thermal characteristics. If it makes any different to you the current 20' dome is being infilled with clay/lime/paper. The cement bags are a nightmare to lift at 92lbs each and the lime does a better job of keeping a high pH necessary to reduce mold/flammability/bugs messing with the insulation.
fryek says:
Jan 30, 2009. 4:54 PM REPLY all good... sorry I made assumptions based upon the sometimes annoying "me too" nature of greenwashing pop-culture... It sounds like you did the research necessary to ensure it wasn't the "wash" I'd thought it might've been. I have done a number of projects in more urban environments... it's always a series of trade-offs to get to an improvement in standard practices. Best of luck.
fryek says:
Jan 30, 2009. 11:44 AM REPLY hmmm, seeing folks get the idea that this may be a "green option" make me think that maybe most folks don't actually know how cement is made... maybe some info would help understand why it is so bad for the environment (and yes, it might be OK *if* a structure were to be used for centuries... though portland commonly breaks down betw 50-100 yrs using modern mixes - but as we all know, Americans usually 'level' things and rebuild much more often than an entire century). Here's some environmental info on just simple Portland cement (not the blast furnace type which increases strength by using byproducts from blast furnaces)... this doesn't include the impact of packaging, driving, storage... see wikipedia entry under Portland cement for this source: "Portland cement manufacture can cause environmental impacts at all stages of the process. These include emissions of airborne pollution in the form of dust, gases, noise and vibration when operating machinery and during blasting in quarries, consumption of large quantities of fuel during manufacture, release of CO2 from the raw materials during manufacture, and damage to countryside from quarrying." again... not a bad project in anyway (other than maybe a little over-engineered/ wasteful)... but just not "green" in the sense that it's basically a trade off removing paper from local waste, producing waste/pollution elsewhere.
BJMN says:
Jan 31, 2009. 4:16 PM REPLY Hi - just a quick comment on your talk about cement. I noticed someone else picked it up here as well - that cement is not as environmentallyunfriendly as it is made out to be. I am an engineer employed specifically to look into the environmental impacts for cement and lime production - so I've seen the numbers sliced and diced enough to portray the manufacture as both environmentally beneficial and environmentally disastrous... On objective analysis, though, with all upstream and downstream effects considered, it's not much worse than building with wood, and you get the long-term benefits of a structure that will last a very long time. Note that the Wikipedia entry does not quantify any of those impacts. Cement gets a bad rap because all the environmentally damaging and neighbour-disturbing activities get concentrated in the place of quarry/manufacture, and not distributed throughout the supply chain. IMHO, the environmental impact of the manufacturing process of any major structural material (wood, steel, cement, so on) is too complex and to integrated into other processes to be analyzed by anyone who sits down and wants to do a quick surface analysis. (It is, after all, my full-time job, and I'm rather busy...) Be careful what experts you trust - as most people have an agenda of either proving any process to be either "green" or "not". This has turned into a small rant - but I just don't like to see cement summarily dismissed as a poor environmental choice.
velacreations says:
Jan 30, 2009. 11:03 AM REPLY This is a great instructable. For those of you wondering the environmental impact of concrete, consider a building like this will last centuries. So, that inherit energy is spread over a long lifetime. Compared to wood or steel, concrete is far better for the environment. Some would argue that wood is ok if harvested sustainably, but it rarely is, and the stuff you buy at your local hardware store is not produced in that way. Plus, there is a lot of inherent energy is logging, not to mention destruction of ecosystems. Earthen materials are overall much better because they last longer, are generally more efficient with heating and energy, and can be made efficiently by localized labor. And rebar is usually recycled steel. Awesome work!
Rebiu says:
You guys are awesome.
Please consider that Papercrete has a high fiber content that gives it the tensile strength that concrete uses re bar for. You structure may be stronger but suggest that it is excessive. I understand the wire makes a nice armature there may be better ways. Including wrapping livestock panel around you perimeter and using precast papercrete elements as part of you armature. Maybe you could use a jump form to cast the cylindrical part of the dome. It seems very wasteful to me to not have you panels as shelter for the building.
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codwithchips says:
Jan 30, 2009. 9:21 AM REPLY hi i have read about ferocement can the papercrete be used in any situatin such as a wet country like ireland answer please if you can
sklarm says:
Jan 30, 2009. 10:16 AM REPLY I personally do not recommend papercrete be used in wet climates. Even in the US it is centered around the southwest desert regions. Some have used it in wet climates, but I would expect mold and other health concerns to arise. There are other additives such as foam shavings (from a waste stream), pumice, or perlite which can all be used with cement as a alternative to paper. These alternatives would do better in a wet climate.
rimar2000 says:
Excellent work, congratulations!!
A home made painting (a Russian friend gave me the recipe, I did not tried it, but he praised it a lot) is: portland cement, to add skim milk (it is important it be skim) until it acquires the desired consistency.
sklarm says:
Thanks for the correction about terminology on hydrating vs. drying.
However, this is not concrete. When papercrete is made/shred there is no monitoring of water % which is so critical to getting a good concrete or cement mortar. Papercrete is a very wet material which holds moisture for a much long period of time while curing. While concrete and cement mortars can quickly hydrate papercrete can take months to dry out.
jimwig says:
get it?
Jan 29, 2009. 6:02 PM REPLY concrete does ;not dry. it hydrates. it needs to be kept wet while it does so. cover it with plastic sheeting while it hydrates so as to prevent dehydration.
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