Cold-Start up of coal fired powerplants

Hello! I have been studying on a project titled as "Cold start-ups of coal fired thermal power plants" and any of your knowledges or experiences about this subject will be appreciated alot. Thank you 12 days ago

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HargovindUnfollow Follow Hargovind Hargovind Sharma It is desired to get the plant started in shortest time without risking it's safety. When hot steam comes in touch with cold component thermal stresses are generated. These stresses should be within permissible limits. The huge thermal stresses even when with in the limits consume life due to low cycle fatigue. So one has to consider number of cold, hot and warm starts in the life of the set. You also see what sort of load fluctuations are to be seen. Then identify components that have possible largest thermal stress(thus U do not have to monitor all components ). what are the low temperature brittle fracture possibilities. Thus a cold start is not stand alone happening in the life of the set. It is part of a contineum. It has to be seen in the context of totality of life long running the set. A rough start may consume large portion of the life of the set. More if specifics come up. Hargovind Sharma 10 days ago Unlike Like

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JayadhasUnfollow Follow Jayadhas Jayadhas Ubald Hi, Cold start up of a thermal Power plant's time depends upon the type of Turbine that is with the system. I have come across 210MW LMZ/BHEL AND 210MW KWU/BHEL sets and worked in the commissioning field and through in the operational field. Now I am in the BHEL/SIEMENS 600MW project at North Chennai. Mostly cold stat up of a set will come in to action only when the set is restarted after a long shut down may be overhaul or breakdown due to various reasons. Normally when the turbine is stopped from barring gear after full cooling my be considered as long shutdown. The older version turbines have split casing with huge amount of metal with maximum factor of safety. So the warm up time and stabilizing the unit after checking the order of all the mechanical, electrical and grid protections depends on the nature of the shutdown. Hence the time for cold start depends on the nature of the shut down. To my experience for LMZ/BHEL sets (Russian design) for a cold start after a long capital overhaul will consume minimum 15 hrs to synchronize the set where as for a short overhaul we can skip certain tests and this consume around 8hrs minimum. The time taken for cold start of a KWU will consume 2 hrs lesser than the above time schedule. If you want further details I will help you further. Regards. 10 days ago Unlike Like

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prabakaranUnfollow Follow prabakaran prabakaran s 660MW china boilers starting procedures. cold start up >72 hours Warm start up- 10-72 hours Hot start up- <10 hours

Warm <1.5 hours Mr.Jayadhas Ubald .Normaly boiler statup we r using LDO and 37.5 % load we ar using HFO. In case for low load condition for example Power demand is very low,plant goes to below the 40% load.At the time what type of fuel we should use? Coal or HFO? 6 days ago Unlike Like

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JayadhasUnfollow Follow Jayadhas Jayadhas Ubald For stability you have to fire oil HFO, with one or two elevations of coal. 5 days ago Unlike Like

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AnilUnfollow Follow Anil Anil Bhalla You have to observe the flame stability also. Design wise, HFO firing is desired upto 30% load, but above 30% load depending on the coal quality & flame stability, HFO firing is optional. 5 days ago Unlike Like

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ShishirUnfollow Follow Shishir Shishir Gosavi During cold start up of power plant, (Power plant has huge boilers), few start up boilers are used, how this works? I mean to say, start up boilers are used to warm up the system, is to reduce mechanical stress ? 5 days ago Unlike Like

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AjayUnfollow Follow Ajay Ajay Goswami I appreciate all discussion, please do not forget the aux steam required for cold startup because cold start up mainly done after a long overall. All over India there are lot of turbine of BHEL/LMD model for 210 MW. which take long time even our steam parameter is ready to go in Main steam piping, due to lot of metal available at joint flange. Please note most critical place in turbine is where joint flange and turbine round wall match. very heavy stress is generated at that place. if we increase warmup rate then turbine life consume very quickly. today latest developed metal can sustain more stress. I have seed some HP model where we not use joint flange only shrink ring type casing is used (Alstom Turbine) can go little fast start up. basically I could not understand your query what exact information you need on cold start up. if you are asking how can we start our power plant from black-out or cold start then it's a long process and you need to take some session. 5 days ago Unlike Like

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Jayadhas Ubald When you have 4 units in a station with inter connection of PRDS there is no need for a package Boiler for initial cold start up. You can take steam from the adjacent Unit. In TNEB Tuticorin TPS and Mettur TPS and our North Chennai we have interconnection to all units from adjacent units. So Mr Shishir you can understand now I hope. 3 days ago Unlike Like

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KumarUnfollow Follow Kumar Kumar Bishal Best technique nowadays for cold lit up is mini oil ignition system with very less fuel consumed for litup to synchronisation of the unit. 3 days ago Unlike Like

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saketUnfollow Follow saket saket mundra I have an experience of cols start up of Circular Fluidised bed Combustion boiler of 495 TPH.We were always having a challenge to fire the boiler and get turbine rolling within 6-7 hrs of lite up.The fuel Used was LDO but we also tried alternate fuels like furnance oil which is a by product of tyre pyrolysis product but cheaper. Experirnce shows every timr oil consumption was between 28-30 KL.Besides this we also used to spray highly volatile USA coal to increase bed temperatures.Monitoring of boiler expansion is very important as difference between upper and lower half of drum metal should not exceed 50 deg cent. Also we faced frequent failres of Loop seal water wall tubes generally at the time of lite up and boiler stoppage which clearly indicates that failure is due to expansion issues.Always the pressure difference betweemn drum lower hallf and loop seal should not be allowed to go beyond 25-30 deg cent.Even distribution of temperature is also important .We were having 4 burners and usually in beginning we preffered burner 1-3 or 1-4 for even heating.For safe start up never take chances to force boiler purge command after fan or coal feeder tripping.We have experience of boiler furnace blast due to CO formation in case of fan tripping when feeder was running and fan tripped.For quicker lit up pegging steam into deaerator can be used if another unit is present and is in operation.Charging of main steam lines and HP -Lp bypass also plays imp role as generally constraint in load raising is silica level in drum.Dumping steam reduces

silica level andpressure in boiler can be quickly raised as silica concentration is directly proportional to pressure in drum 1 day ago Unlike Like

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DevpriyaUnfollow Follow Devpriya Devpriya Ghosh can anyone mail me the boiler start-up curves for any MW plant (from 210-800MW). Please devpriya.ghosh@yahoo.com 12 hours ago