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Genesius Post subject: Another Dual Boot Solution Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:35 pm

I had real trouble getting other dual boot instructions to work for me, but this worked:
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Install OSX (setting up two partitions in the process)
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pm Boot (which will go into XP)
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Open up a Command window (Run:CMD)

Type LIST DISK


Type SELECT DISK n (where n is the number of the drive -- in this case 0)
Type LIST PARTITION
Type SELECT PARTITION n (where n is the number of the OSX partition)
Type ACTIVE
Type EXIT to exit DISKPART
Type EXIT again to exit the command prompt
Reboot

It will reboot into the Darwin bootloader, defaulting to OSX but allowing you to boot into XP.

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Matt-66 Post subject: Re: Another Dual Boot Solution Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:54 pm

When formatting the two partitions in OSX, what did you set the windows one as? and will this
work with Vista? Thanks!
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Genesius Post subject: Re: Another Dual Boot Solution Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:34 pm

Short answer: I don't think it matters, as the XP install will let you reformat as NTFS anyway.
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Long answer: This is actually the simplified version of the many steps I went through. I actually
Joined: Mon Aug 04, 2008 installed Windows first, formatting the XP partition as NTFS and the other as FAT32. Then I
6:35 pm installed OSX (reformatting the second partition to Mac Journaled) and tried to use the the XP
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disc to do the "fixmbr" method outlined in another thread, but with no luck. It was then that I
did a full reinstall of XP on the NTFS partition (which gave me Windows, but no OSX option). It
was then that I decided that perhaps the trouble was in the OSX partition not being marked
ACTIVE, so I googled how to do that and...voila.

For the record, I had previously tried the Chain0 method of dual booting, and while it gave me a
listing of Leopard at boot, selecting it didn't do anything. Much like how in the Darwin
Bootloader, after Installing XP and THEN OSX, I had the option to select XP, but it wouldn't
actually load.

As for Vista, I don't know. I have Home Premium on my desktop (and I actually like it quite a lot)
but after five days of screwing with this, now that I've got it working, I'm hesitant to try anything
new.

Matt-66 wrote:

When formatting the two partitions in OSX, what did you set the windows one as? and will
this work with Vista? Thanks!

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Matt-66 Post subject: Re: Another Dual Boot Solution Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:56 pm

fair enough, i have home premium installed on my dekstop, and ultimate on my wind (odd but
Member yeah, i had the key ) ive tried a few different types of dual booting so far, but still havnt got
tem to work properly, first time i tried i got some error about "blah+ not partitioned correctly
Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2008 unable to boot" so just went back to vista and started again, i can keep going back to vista and
10:13 pm
Posts: 18 keep trying, but i think as i got my dell 1500 mini pci-e card today, if i can only make one of
them work at a time, i may aswell just use osx.

Thanks for the guide, ill give it a try tomorrow

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Matt-66 Post subject: Re: Another Dual Boot Solution Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:06 pm

Can't get any of the ways to get it to work, tried this one twice as it was the simplest and easiest
to understand but couldnt get it to work, so im just gonna use paralells if ever i have to use
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windows, thanks for the tut. though
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Genesius Post subject: Re: Another Dual Boot Solution Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:54 pm

Well, crap. Maybe the trick had something to do with the billion failed steps that came before the
eventual success. Sorry it didn't work for you.
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Can't get any of the ways to get it to work, tried this one twice as it was the simplest and
easiest to understand but couldnt get it to work, so im just gonna use paralells if ever i have
to use windows, thanks for the tut. though

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applebook Post subject: Re: Another Dual Boot Solution Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:09 am

If anyone else is trying this, please let me know if it works. I'd like to do this but don't want to
Wind User risk losing my OS X partition for the umpteenth time, making it unbootable.

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jagger Post subject: Re: Another Dual Boot Solution Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:04 am

Well, it worked for me, however the first command after openening the command-window
would be DISKPART of course, but thanks for the hint !!
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Henri Post subject: Re: Another Dual Boot Solution Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:19 am

Usually it should work like this:


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You installed OS X and AFTER you install XP: Either use DISKPART to activate the Darwin Boot
Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2008 Loader again, or use the CHAIN0 method.
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Location: Bucharest, Romania You installed XP first and AFTER you install OS X: No further action required, since Darwin Boot
Netbooks: MSI Wind Loader comes up automatically.

That is of course the IDEAL setup, that not always works, since various OS X DvD install different
things and XP does sometimes strange things too.

So your mileage may vary, but describe your problems as precise as possible and we might be
able to help .

Henri

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droobage Post subject: Re: Another Dual Boot Solution Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:12 am

So my Wind, gig of RAM and Dell 1490 card will all will be arriving on Friday and I'll be spending
Saturday getting everything updated and OSX installed. I've never done anything like this before,
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but I've read at least 50 pages worth of posts on this forum as well as the InsanelyMac forums
Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:13 and have watched all the videos I could find... And yet I've still got some questions about how I
pm go about having the option of booting into either XP or OSX.
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My Wind will come pre-loaded with XP and I don't want to delete that (I don't have another copy
of it that I can install later, as it sounds like many here have suggested we do). I have the
MSIWINDOWSosx86.iso ver. 10.5.4 and will be using that for the install. On the video that I
watched of the install, he totally reformatted his drive, and deleted everything that was on it.
How do I NOT do this? Can I just go into XP before the install and create a partition and install
OSX on that? If not, what do I do?

Also, does the file that I have include a bootloader so when I boot up my machine I'll be given
the option of what to boot into? Or do I have to go find a bootloader elsewhere? What is this
Darwin loader that I keep reading about? Is that something that I need to find and download and
install? (none of the videos I watched mentioned anything about dual booting) I don't care so
much about which is the default or any of that, I'm mostly just concerned that I'll have the
option.

Any and all help you can give me will be very appreciated. Thanks!

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Henri Post subject: Re: Another Dual Boot Solution Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:23 am

So...
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if you use the MSIWindOSX86 Iso DVD, that will get you pretty much going out of the box. It will
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10:50 am DARWIN is actually the UNIX derived core that provides the underlying foundation for MAC OS X,
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Location: Bucharest, Romania so if we talk about the Darwin Boot Loader, that is the console boot loader from unix that
Netbooks: MSI Wind actually starts the operating system whichever that is. The Darwin Boot Loader can actually start
many operating systems and looks a little bit like the Windows XP Loader.

Anyway, all this will be installed when installing OS X. In order NOT to delete your windows xp
partition (and the rescue partition), you will have to RESIZE the Windows XP partition in order to
make room for the OS X Partition. The only USABLE way to do this is with GParted (a linux tool
somewhat like Partition Magic, Partition Magic itself WILL NOT WORK, so dont bother)

You can get a live-cd which boots right into GParted here :
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php. You WILL need an external USB DVD Drive for this,
otherwise its not possible. (There are reports of people having done this with an USB stick, good
luck with this then). But since you need the external DVD drive anyway for installing OS X...

If you put the Dell 1490 in BEFORE installing OS X, you have wireless right away, since OS X
natively supports this card.

Good luck and if you have more questions, let us know...

Henri

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evangogh Post subject: Re: Another Dual Boot Solution Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:30 pm

I wil be receiving my Wind tomorrow and have another question re: dual booting and not erasing
the existing XP install. I have purchased a 120GB HD to replace the stock 80GB drive. If I clone
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the original disk and install on the new one, can I leave the original XP install as is and simply
create a new partition on the drive for OS X?

Also, is it possible to install MSIWindosx86 from an external USB non-flash drive?

Thanks so much for the help!

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Henri Post subject: Re: Another Dual Boot Solution Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:23 pm

If you clone 1:1, you should be fine having 40GB left for OS X install.
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And what do you mean by "USB non-flash drive"? Mostly people use an external DVD drive
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evangogh Post subject: Re: Another Dual Boot Solution Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:03 am

By "non-flash" drive, I meant an external hard drive as opposed to a memory stick. Sorry for the
confusion! In any case, you answered by questions, so thanks, Henri!
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Henri Post subject: Re: Another Dual Boot Solution Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:02 pm

Aah, ok, got it now


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Good luck with the installation then
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elliot Post subject: Re: Another Dual Boot Solution Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:30 am

Genesius wrote:
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I had real trouble getting other dual boot instructions to work for me, but this worked:
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Posts: 18 Install OSX (setting up two partitions in the process)
Install XP
Boot (which will go into XP)
Open up a Command window (Run:CMD)

Type LIST DISK


Type SELECT DISK n (where n is the number of the drive -- in this case 0)
Type LIST PARTITION
Type SELECT PARTITION n (where n is the number of the OSX partition)
Type ACTIVE
Type EXIT to exit DISKPART
Type EXIT again to exit the command prompt
Reboot

It will reboot into the Darwin bootloader, defaulting to OSX but allowing you to boot into XP.

I tried this and it failed to boot... so will need to go find a recovery disk

OSX works fine, was booting from CD. XP worked find.

Now I have a foobarred boot partition

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elliot Post subject: Re: Another Dual Boot Solution Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:18 am

Is there any way to get either OSX or XP working again?


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Can I download Darwin from somewhere to pick up the different OSs?
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i-mac Post subject: Re: Another Dual Boot Solution Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:53 am

will this dual boot work with vista installed first and then leopard next?
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Favlex Post subject: Re: Another Dual Boot Solution Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:04 am

It depends on which type of partition u choosed.MBR or GUID with osx?


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But , for a fast recovery u can download chameleon bootloader (less than 1 MB ..) , connect your
wind to and external usb hdd and launch the chamelon for installing it on yours partition
drive.keep in mind , chameleon can boot vista not xp.

for using windows as bootloader it's a different situation.

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sed8ed Post subject: Re: Another Dual Boot Solution Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:10 am

Can a mod roll all of these dual boot threads into one....there's almost a little to much dual boot
talk to handle....
Wind Guru

Dont get me wrong they are all relevant but the OSX86 Wind thread is plagued with repeat
threads on similar topics..I know there is X,Y,Z differences to dual boots and that they have
issues but to be frank I wish they had their own subsection.

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