Ejaculation without orgasm: Ejaculatory Anhedonia I'm not so sure it's totally a chemical or hormone issue.

I would look into arou sal, the emotional side of it. Try getting aroused by whatever turns you on with out trying to have an orgasm. In fact, try to avoid ejaculation and just focus o n the pleasurable thoughts. If your partner will participate, explain your strat egy, that you are trying to get maximum stimulation without doing the physical e jaculation. Try to avoid physical stimulation of your body. I think we tend to focus too much on the physical side and not enough on the fe eling side. If your interest starts to wane, let it fade out along with the erec tion. When interest returns, focus on it. The goal is to have perhaps an ejacula tion without physical stimulation or to get to the point of arousal that you abs olutely need the relief of releasing it. I think this type of practice will help you with what you call the brain part. It's worth a try.

To start this off. I'm going through as much detail as I can only because I car e about people and if I can help someone out of this personal hell, then it's worth all the blah blah blah... I'm not gonna worry about spelling/typos. I'm too busy to care Well it's been over 10 years since I felt anything. I don't know exactly when it stopped but I guess in the early 20's. Sex with women would make me feel depressed to see them enjoy so much and I got nothing from it. Like a month ago after having sex with the wife and she goes to bed. I went though my own mental hell of why can't I feel crap. And I started to masterbate (I haven't did that in many years because I see no p oint in it since I couldn't feel anything.) I was just frustrated and couldn't go to sleep because I was so down about it. W hile in the act I was thinking I remember when this felt good. I started thinking about key moments when I was a teen masterbating and how grea t it felt and the joy the whole act was. I pictured myself doing back in my old house in my room and remembering what it felt like near the end. Then all of the sudden I felt something. I didn't know what it was it was a feeling in my skull behind my eyes. Best way to describe it like a feeling that you don't understand like a cloud blocking the sun. I started to focus on it like what the hell is that?!? Still thinking of my teen fun I kept trying to figure out what was behind that cloud and I started to consetrate on it. And whoosh it all came floo ding back big waves of pleasure. That day I noticed it wasn't just sexual pleasure I couldn't feel but anything e njoyable. Yeah I could smile/laugh etc but no life behind it. The food I ate was enjoyable and drinks etc. Also when I could feel I noticed a breezy/cold feeling behind my eyes might have something to do with the optic nerve. Now I enjoyed that for 2 days and when I woke up it was gone again. I tried many times to repeat the steps but no luck. Also that day I did get into a small fight with my wife over something silly that day, I get moody at times. I think that help killed it. I think negative emotions block that crap. When I was young I used to be such a

nice easy going person and somewhere over the years I got bitter and cranky alot. Als o I'm diabetic so I get mood swings alot and I don't take anything for it. I did searches online to find out why I don't feel anything and they believe it's a breakdown of the reward system of the brain. Also after it went away I've lost intrest in sex , I started to lose my erections and my wife took it personal. I tried to explain it wasn't her, it's me. (also being diabetic probably didn't help either but I never had that problem before) I love her so much and I was still in love with her and attracted to her. But af ter reading this site I didn't want to give up. since some people got it back. It gave me hope. So about 2-3 weeks later after trying and trying I figure I try some kind of mal e enhancement pills that claims to increase pleasure and keep me "standing". (Also somewhere in that time I had a minor breakthrough that wasn't pleasurable but I did feel a faint motion feeling. So first I tried entenze, it helped with the "standing(sometimes)" but I had to stop taking it because it gave me a bad headache. So i did more research on something that don't have yohimbe. I found zenerx didn 't have it so I figure I'd give it a try. First day I took it. it didn't really do much for my erection, but the 2nd day it was decent. somewhe re within the first week I had another breakthrough and it was about 25% sensation... (all this was done with masturbation, sex is too t axing on the mind) which made me happy because something is better than nothing. Now the 2nd week I manage to get it back fully but with a twist. I still had the headaches from extenze and it really wasn't helping me with my attempts because where there should be pleasure was replaced with pain from the headache. But it did go away. And when I started feeling pleasure again it was different this time. Not like it was everything was all ju mbled in my head (the sensations). So I started meditating on where this goes and what is what. It took alot of mental training but I managed to get it mostly right Now somewhere around week 3-4 After having sex with he wife. Something weird sta rted happening I started feeling pleasure but I wasn't being touched... it was like the act was going on but nobody is driving I went with it for about 15-20 min. I started shaking in a good way. I told my wife to quickly come to the bed. But I was going through so much alone I had to stop, and I passed out (sleep). Now the next day I woke up numb down there. I was scared I lost it but it came back on it's own. I wanted to get that fun without being touched thing back. But yet another twis t... After sex with the wife I started having multiple orgasms with no splash at the end. I'm learning to let go of thought and enjoy it fully now. I don't know if it's the zenerx or me rewiring my neurons in all them attempts o r maybe both... I hope this stays and also I hope it helps someone out there...

Multiple orgasms. Jackpot! It certainly would be nice for our obvious difference from the norm to pay off like that when we got it back. One of the things they always say about orgasms, is that "goal directed behavior " doesn't help to bring them on. And if you don't believe one is coming, you're

right. I'd think recreating and remembering the thoughts and feelings you had when you used to have orgasms is probably a good idea. I've tried something of the sort, although my limited history of 2 orgasms isn't a big help. For one of them, the first one, I don't know that I was exactly conscious of wha t I was doing. That was my first orgasm, in the shower in my teens. I was washin g, and I just started masturbating, with soap. But I wasn't really conscious of it, in a way. It was odd. It was like I wasn't really doing it. And then I came, and I didn't really know what happened. The second time, I was having sex with my girlfriend at the time. It had been a very hot day, and I had been driving around in the sun. Lots of light can give m e a headache. And I was drinking a lot of crystal light that day - getting plent y of phenylalanine. Both of those things have a neurological effect. So we were having sex, and I just got more intent and focused that usual on the thrusting a nd the tip of my penis. That's one thing - there were no extraneous thoughts at the time, just a focus on the penis. It actually wasn't that enjoyable, but I wa s just a little frustrated and wasnt' going to stop. Inside the head of the peni s started to have something like a very sharp itch - again, not really enjoyable . But then I had the orgasm. It was tremendous. I don't why people ever leave the house if they can have those on a regular basis. It was the classic losing of ti me and space. Even fireworks. I had my eyes closed, and I actually saw a big spa rkly golden explosion in my head. I've tried to focus. I've tried to let go. I think masturbation probably doesn't help, because it is too goal oriented. Better to be masturbated. I'd still like to get one of those ferticare ejaculation vibrators (they're used to get sperm out of paralyzed guys). I've tried all sorts of your basic humming vibrators. TH ey've never done anything for me. The ferticare actually taps your penis at abou t 100hz, instead of vibrating like most vibrators. Anyway, congratulations on the cure. And particularly on the multiple orgasms. O ne thing you did that I think we all need to do - find a way not to think about failure and disappointment. It's just not going to work that way. Thanks, but sadly I have a new problem now... The orgasms are great and all but now it won't stop (literally back to back). it's been going on for 2 days non st op (you would think that's great, but I have kids and I can't function like that ar ound them) now I've been fighting them (the orgasms). I was wondering why they w ont stop. I mean at some point sheesh calm down. It gets so overwhelming I can't even stan d at times. I found myself screaming and moaning and I have to cover my mouth no t to wake the kids. I did some more research and I understand now. I found this on learntheropes.net [The Endorphin-induced Euphoria of True Multiple Orgasms During male orgasm, a burst of endorphins is released in the brain, which is par t of the pleasure process experienced. In single or sequential orgasms (orgasms separated by a refractory period or a r eturn to the pre-arousal state), these endorphins dissipate fairly quickly as the body returns to its pre-orgasmic stat e. This period of dissipation is what is called afterglow, which feels great all by itself. However, compared with what ha

ppens in multiple male orgasms, this is nothing! If a man is able to achieve true multiple orgasms, the endorphins released never get the chance to dissipate before subsequent orgasms release more and more endorphins. They literally overload the brain with pleasur e, and it is this continual release of endorphins that succeeds, after a few multiple orgasms, in producing an increasingly stronger op iate-like state of euphoria or high. ] Now the brain thing with the overload with pleasure is true. My experience is wh en it's flooded with pleasure. My sense of pain is nearly gone. I had no feeling of normal touch in my penis. I could only feel pressure and ple asure, Trying to come down from my highly arouse state I bit myself on the arm not hard enough to draw blood but hard enough to make a normal person freak out. Also that just made the pleasure even greater. There are times when it calms do wn alot but positive emotions brings it back like laughter or good tasting food. I think that's because my reward system is working again and maybe it's confused. On the side note I understand now about the difference between orgasm and ejacul ation. Before they were in sync, but now they are not. I'm finding it difficult to ejaculate now because I orgasm so much and it's hard to tell if I did or not. So sadly at this time the only way I can ejaculate is when I chain link the org asms and eventually it happens. but it's so hard to do. Also thinking on the past I think I started losing my pleasure when I started sm oking. I don't know if that's the reason why but it's food for thought... In my experience, some of my longer masturbation sessions can end disappointingl y. Not always but sometimes. Neurotransmitters get used up, brain areas get "tir ed" of responding, penile nerves loose sensitivity, etc. I would suggest trying to "outsmart" the non-orgasmic ejaculatory response... trick it and beat it to t he punch, so to speak... try practicing ejaculating fast and hard and keeping at a peak of extreme excitement the entire time without ANY backing off. This is w hat I did to learn to feel orgasms again when I finally quit all the anti-depres sants and was worried I had lost the ability to orgasm forever. It feels like, y ou are retraining the response of that part of your nervous system. Best way to do that is back to basics. Nothing too fancy or "thoughtful"... that kind of "ba llooning" thing is far too intellectual and while perhaps attractive in an abstr act mental theory sort of way, it is NOT sexy. Take from someone twice your age who has had ALOT of sex and orgasms, both with other people and with myself. Quick fast hard rutting animal lust is what our s ystems are evolved for. You need to retrain your sexual response circuits to lea rn how to do that again, my boy. Get some super-hot porn where that's the kind o f sex that they have, and try to get off in no more than 10-20 mins along with o ne scene. Fast hard and animal... beat the non-orgasmic ejaculation response to the punch and MAKE it work the way YOU want it to,damnit! Be intense, determined and FOCUSED. You're making all this WAY too complicated... that is part of your problem I guarantee it. I am NOT minimizing the issue... I've been there, and t rust me, this sort of an approach can be VERY useful.