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Topic: Kitab-ar-Ruh - Its Attribution To Ibn Al-Qayyim -- page: 1 2 03-22-2008 @ 12:08 PM


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Ibn al-Qayyim Declares Soofeeyah From 72 Sects Doomed To Hellfire!


Introduction:-Neo-Soofeeyah resorted to wrap the taqleed-strand around their defenses of those whom they considered deviant, astray, salafee...! While it was an obligation to return to the truth when they have the entire Qur'aan and the clear Sunnah in opposition to their beliefs! How on earth a sane Muslim can justify the fake stories from a book like fadaail-e-aamaal and rest of soofee fiction? Soofees are truly insane! Out of the vast treasure left behind by ibn al-Qayyim you had ONLY the disputed Kitab-ar-Ruh to hang onto? Then you built hanbalee sufism and shamelessly included Ibn al-Qayyim amongst them? I will list insha Allaah what the research of the scholars has been with regards to this book and the radd of Ibn al-Qayyim upon the Soofees and their khuraafee practises so that there remains no doubt and confusion with the permission of Allaah regarding Ibn al-Qayyim and his aqeedah!

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There are six important things to be observed. Firstly:- The soofees attempt to refute the salafees using their Mu`tazilee/Kullaabee/Asharee usool. If you were to ponder with slightest of justice and fairness, it is from the salafee usool to reject anything that opposes the Qur'aan and the Sunnah as understood by the Salaf-us-Saalih; even if it comes from the most greatest of their scholars! Secondly:- The soofees pick up isolated statements and disputed ascriptions of books/ statements upon certain Ulamaa and build their whole manhaj around it. If they were to gather all the statements of the same scholar in question, his usool then they would miserably fail in proving their deception! Thirdly:- The one whom they claim to blind follow in furoo, they oppose the same one in usool. The one whom they claim to blind follow in creed, they strenuously oppose him in fiqh. Then the one whom they claim to blind follow in hadeeth and its sciences, they would vigorously oppose him in creed. As for the ahl-us-Sunnah, then they follow the Qur'aan and the Sunnah as understood by the salaf and leave whatever opposes it! Fourthly:- The soofees claim to be hanafees and the hanafee usool renders Khabr-al-Waahid even if it be SAHEEH reported by Bukhaaree/Muslim does not reach ilm yaqeeni. Then how do they accept kitaab-ar-Ruh and most of the narrations in it relating to dreams and events that are extremely weak? And this related to the aspects of Aqeedah and they have no hesitation in accepting it, while they reject Kharb-ul-Ahhaad in the matters of fiqh. Astonishingly, they also reject certain aspects of aqeedah of ahl-us-Sunnah with an excuse of Khabr-ul-Ahhaad! Fifthly:- a)Even if they press most vehemently upon Shaykh Bakr rahimahullaah's research and his stance with regards to Kitab-ar-Ruh, then they should follow him conclusively and do not draw conclusions about Ibn al-Qayyim until they have fair knowledge of what he wrote in Kitab-ar-Ruh-Wa-Nafs-al-Kabeer. b) They should also clarify if this book was written before I'laam-ul-Muwaqqi`een ann` Rabbil-Aalameen based on clear evidences. I would appreciate even if you can prove to me this book was written after Zaad-al-Maad, let alone I'laam. c) Inform the Aqeedah of Ibn al-Qayyim and publicise it based on all his available works and dont restrict to one book. Sixthly:- When it is only the Salafee Scholars who warn against this book, then it does not befit the sects in opposition except that they prove based on evidences from the Qur'aan & the Sunnah as understood by the Salaf-us-Saalih following the rules of science of hadeeth. Not that the book in and itself it a PROOF and HUJJAH! [See Kitaabun Hazzara Min-al-Ulamaa of Mash`hoor Hasan Volume 2 where he has listed Kitab-ar-Ruh] I begin with what Ibn al-Qayyim rahimahullah said in his most famous book of Usool, I'laam-ul-Muwaqqi`een ann` Rabbil Aalameen about Soofeeyah! This should send shock waves around soofee circles and let the blood in those hands clot that have given secret bayah to their fake shaykhs by the permission of Allaah, the Mighty and Majestic!!!
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Ibn al-Qayyim rahimahullaah said: And such is the plight of these (72) innovated sects (that are upon this path of baathil ta`weel) with regards to the Sharee'ah. Each of these sects misunderstood Shareeah in a way different from the other sects, claiming their understanding to be that which was intended by the Saahib-ush-Shara`(meaning the Messenger of Allaah Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam). This (baathil Ta`weel) ruptured the Shareeah apiece, such that even the remnants did not reflet the shadow of its original self. The Saahib-ush-Shara` (Salwaathullaahi wa salaamuhu alayhi) knew that the like of this would follow so he Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam said: "My Ummah will devide into 73 sects, all of them will be in the hell fire, except for one. He meant by this "one" the group which follows the Sharee'ah (Qur`aan & the Sunnah) upon dhaahir, apparently and does not make ta`weel to change its intended meaning. When you reflect upon the amount of fasaad that has occured in the Shar`eeah during this time, you will find that most of it was from the direction of ta`weel(explaning the Shar`eeah with other than its intended meaning, that which was understood by the Sahabah), and it will be starkly apparent to you that the illustration of the Messenger of Allaah Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam is Saheeh (in describing the 72 sects doomed for hellfire and only one group being upon the truth). quote:

And the first and foremost to modify this greatest of cure (meaning the Shar`eeah explained by the Messenger of Allaah as understood by the Salaf-us-Saalih without Ta`weel) were: al-Khawaarij, then Mutazilah, then Ashaairah, then the Sufee`ah. Then came Abu Haamid (meaning al-ghazaalee) who caused the valley to landslide over!

[See I'laam Volume 6 page 191,192 ~ Checking Of Shaykh Mash`hoor Hasan] What endorses this fact further is that a very similar saying has been documented by Ibn Rushd in his work,al-Kashf ann` Minhaaj-il-Adillah Fee Aqaaidil-Millah where he refutes these baathil sects of deviation. To be continued Insha Allaah!

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Shaykh Al-Albaanee rahimahullaah On Kitaab ar Ruh


Attached is the reply of Shaykh Nasir rahimahullaah about attribution of Kitab ar Ruh to Ibn al-Qayyim rahimahullaah. I will list in due course from various other books of the Shaykh rahimahullaah, his kalaam in this regard. Shaykh al-Albaanee rahimahullaah said in the footnotes to Aayaathul-Bayyinaath, page 22 ( 45 - 46 ) " " : ( 87 )

See pages 45-46 from Kitab-ur-Ruh which is attributed to Ibn al-Qayyim rahimahullah for verily in it are strange and odd narrations and views. We shall see some of these later. (And he points to) page 87 - where he mentions some of them and their inauthenticity. On page 38, Shaykh Nasir rahimahullaah commented ( 69 ) " " ( 8 ) : : : ( ) ( ) : "

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Shaykh Ibn Baaz rahimahullaah On Kitab ar Ruh Attributed To Ibn al-Qayyim


Attached is the response of Shaykh Ibn Baaz rahimahullaah with regards to Kitab ar Ruh! I will add later on insha Allaah what the Shaykh rahimahullah said about Thalqeen and its related athar from Imam Ahmed rahimahullaah. This was also rebutted by Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan hafidhahullaah in his Radd alaa Faisal Muraad Alee Radhaa Feema Kutubuhu An` Sha`an al-Amwaath Wa Ahwaalihim! This contains a write-up praise from Shaykh Ibn Baaz rahimahullaah.

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Ibn al-Qayyim Declares Soofees To Be From 72 Sects Doomed To Hell Again!!


Before anyone should claim, I picked up a rare quote from I'laam and G.F.Haddaad's muqallids circulate his baathil tafseer of some words of Ibn al-Qayyim in his Nooneeyah, I would like to re-assert that Ibn al-Qayyim really meant it insha Allaah. Here is a scan from Sawaaiq al-Mursilah, so you have another task to prove if he this was written before Kitab ar Ruh, if this ascription to Kitab ar Ruh is really correct!!!

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More to follow Bi-Idhnillaah!!

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Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Saalih al-Uthaimeen rahimahullaah On Kitab ar Ruh


Attached is the audio of Shaykh Muhammad rahimahullaah on Kitab ar Ruh. He points out that it contains narrations that are not authentic.

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03-23-2008 @ 5:58 PM

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Ibn al-Qayyim On Sofee-Shaythaan Relationship

: " ". : " [Ighaathathul Lufhaan Page 125] Ibn al-Qayyim said in his famous book Ighaathathul Lufhaan, quote: And what is better than that which has been said by Aboo Ahmed ash-Shayraazee: "The Soofeeyah used to mock at the Shaythaan but now, Shaythaan makes fun of the Soofeeyah!!!"

And the succeeding quote is better & more befitting!!! I am sure, the Shaadhilee Soofee disorders dont want to know if this was written before Ibn al-Qayyim met Ibn Taymiyyah or after?

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03-23-2008 @ 8:35 PM

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Shaykh Muqbil On Kitab ar Ruh


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Usool Of Ibn al-Qayyim Is The Usool Of Maalik Ibn Anas - On Kashf & Dreams In Comparison To Qur'aan & Sunnah
This ibaarah clearly shows what the level of Kashf & Dreams are in the Shar'eeah. Amazingly, much much below Qiyaas. So this is the manhaj of Ibn al-Qayyim rahimahullaah! You will not find apart from this insha Allaah a single instance where he rahimahullaah quoted any radd from many rudood of the scholars from the Taabi'een and Attba ut Taabi'een upon Abee Haneefah rahimahullaah inspite of them being numerous. And right after this he quotes the usool of Maalik rahimahullaah which demolishes the claims of soofeeyah!

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Awesome Observation & Point Of Benefit Of Shaykh Abdul Muhsin al-Abaad Hafidhahullaah
I found this narration in Kitab ar Ruh on page 223. And in Zaad al-Ma`aad 4/101. This leaves the soofeeyah in hot water insha Allaah! This also does not contradict with the research of Shaykh Bakr rahimahullaah nor the statements of Shaykh Naasir, Shaykh Ibn Baaz rahimahumullaah!

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[Source:- www.sahab.net - I could not locate the audio from the Sunan an-Nisa'ee dars, if someone has it, please post it here - JazakAllaahu Khayran]

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Precedence Of as-Siddique Over Confirmed Muhaddath


Ibn Taymiyyah rahimahullah said: As we have mentioned previously, it has been established in the sahih hadith, that Umar radhiAllaahu anhu is a muhaddath of this nation. For any other muhaddath, or receiver of inspirations and intuitions which we assume to exist in this nation, Umar radhiAllaahu anhu is better than him. And yet, Umar always did that which was obligatory upon him: to measure anything that occurred to him against that with which the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam) was sent. Sometimes they would be in agreement, and this would be evidence of the high rank of Umar and his piety. In this way, the Qur'an was revealed ratifying the opinion of Umar which he had expressed before it revelation on several occasions. Other times, what occurred to Umar would be at variance with the message of Muhammad (Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam), and Umar would retract his original position as soon as he realized this, as in his retracting his opinion at the treaty of Hudaibiya when at first he was determined that the Muslims should engage the Mushrikeen in battle. This was after a consultation between Umar and the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam). This hadith is well known, and is found in the collection of Bukhari and others. The Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam) set out to make 'umrah (minor pilgrimage) in the sixth year of the migration along with fourteen hundred Muslims. These were are the Muslims who took the oath under the tree. The Prophet had made a treaty with the associationists, after discussions with them, in which it was stipulated that he should turn back to Madinah in that year and come for 'Umrah in the following year. There were various other conditions which seemed to be unfair to the Muslims. This was extremely difficult for many of the Muslims, and Allah and His Prophet knew best the great benefits in that treaty. Umar was one of those who strongly disliked this treaty such that he said to the Prophet: "O, messenger of Allah, are we not on the way of truth, and our enemy is in falsehood?" The Prophet answered: "Of course." Then, Umar said: "Are not our dead in paradise, and their dead are in the fire?" The Prophet said: "Of course." Umar said: "So why, then, do we give in to humiliation in our Deen?" The Prophet said to him: "I am the Messenger of Allah, and He is my helper, and I am not disobeying Him." Umar went on to say: "Didn't you used to inform us that we would come to the Ka'aba and circle around it?" The Prophet said: "Yes, but did I say that you would come to it this year?" Umar said no, and then the Prophet said: "Verily, you will come to it, and circle around it." Thereupon, Umar went to Abu Bakr radhiAllaahu anhu and said to him the same things that he had said to the Prophet. Abu Bakr radhiAllaahu anhu answered him with the same answers which the Prophet had given Umar, though he had not heard of the conversation between them. Abu Bakr was therefore superior in his harmony with Allah and His Prophet than Umar. Umar subsequently retracted his position and said about this incident: "For that incident I did many works" (i.e. seeking the forgiveness of Allah.) In a similar fashion, when the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam) died, Umar denied his death at first. Then, when Abu

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Bakr told him that he had indeed died, he retracted his first statement. Also in the battles against those who withheld their zakat, during the caliphate of Abu Bakr. Umar said to him: "How can you fight the people when the Prophet said: "I have been ordered to fight the people until they testify that their is no deity other than Allah and that I am the messenger of Allah. When they do that, their lives and their property are protected except for the rights of Islam." Abu Bakr said to him: "By Allah, if they were to withhold a single binding rope which they used to pay to the Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam, I would fight them for their refusal to pay." Umar said: "By Allah it was nothing other than that I saw that Allah had inspired in his heart fighting them, and I knew that it was the truth." quote:

This and other examples like them show the higher rank of Abu Bakr over Umar, even though, as we have seen, Umar was muhaddath, one who is addressed with the truth. This is because Abu Bakr was As-Siddique (i.e. ever-truthful, ever-believing), and one who is siddique takes from the Prophet, the protected from falling into error everything which he says and does. On the other hand, one who is muhaddath takes things from his own heart or intuitions, and these are not protected from falling into error, and so he needs always to measure them against that which has been brought by the Prophet, the protected from falling into error.

Thus, Umar used to consult with the companions, may Allah be pleased with them, and to discuss with them, seeking their counsel in various affairs. Furthermore, they used to disagree with him on some things, and so they would present their arguments from the Qur'an and the Sunnah, and Umar would present his arguments from the Qur'an and the Sunnah. Umar accepted from them this disagreement and discussion, and never said to them: "I am muhaddath, I receive inspirations and visions, and so you should accept that which I say and not oppose me therein." So anyone who claims that he is an ally of Allah, or his companions claim for him, that he is "enlightened", or receives inspirations such that it is obligatory to follow him and accept from him all that he says, and not to oppose or question him and to defer to his opinion without regard for the texts of the Qur'an and the Sunnah; such people he, and they are in gross error, and these are the people who are farthest astray. Umar ibn Al-Khattab was better than any such people, and he was the Prince of the Believers and the khaleefa, and yet the Muslims used to disagree with him and measure anything that he said or that any of them said against the standards of the Qur'an and the Sunnah. The early scholars of Islam have unanimously agreed that the opinions of any man can be accepted and can be rejected (i.e. are open to question) except for the statements of the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam). [See, Al-Farq Bayna Awliyaa-ir-Rahmaan Wa Awliyaa-ish-Shaythaan] Then what is the state of fake soofee claimants to receiving DIRECTLY FROM AR-RAZZAAQ?
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"One person asked Khidr that,"Have you ever seen any wali who is better than you?" Khidr replied, "Yes, I have. I once visited the mosque of the Prophet. I saw Imaam Abdur Razzaq Muhaddith and he was teaching ahadith. The crowd and I
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listened to the ahadith from him. In one corner of the masjid there was a youngster sitting who had kept his head between his knees away from the crowd. I said, Do you not see that ahadith of the Prophet are being taught? Why don't you also attend the circle? He neither lifted his head nor did he look at me and said, "In that place are those who listen to ahadith from the slave of Razzaq and here are those who listen to ahadith from the Razzaq! AND NOT FROM HIS ABD" Hadhrat Khidr said that, "If you are indeed speaking the truth then tell who am I? He raised his head and said that, "If I am not mistaken, then you are Khidr." Hadhrat Khidr then said, "From this I came to know that there are such wali of Allaah whom even I cannot recognize." [Taken From Soofee Fiction/Fadaail-e-Aamaal - Part - 2]

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Ibn al-Qayyim Confirms That Deobandee/Soofee Peer Was Receiving From Shaythaan!!
Ibn al-Qayyim rahimahullaah not only quotes the same statements of his Shaykh Ibn Taymiyyah rahimahullah but also proclaims the SAME OPINION!!!

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So it seems to me, the new task for our soofee opponents is to prove if Madaarij us Saalikeen was written prior to Kitab ar Ruh? Ibn al-Qayyim says, many from the people of wild imaginations & ignoramus claim - "Haddathnee ann Qalbee" - So now you should answer Ibn al-Qayyim whether your soofee peers heard from Shaythaan or from Allaah? From whom have they received it? Ibn al-Qayyim also reports what he HEARD (not read) from his Shaykh Taqiuddeen Ibn Taymiyyah rahimahullaah about this Ummah not being in need of any saahibul-Kashf/Dream/Ilhaam!!! Dear Soofees! Are you feeling too lonely? Why not find any other forged book on Dhahabee and we shall take it from there insha Allaah?

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Overwhelming Shirk In The Ummah From The Direction Of Picture & Graves

: . [Ibn Qayyim Zaad al M'aad Volume 3] Ibn al-Qayyim rahimahullaah said while discussing the narration where the Messenger of Allaah Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam entered the house, performed the salaah in it, and then he would not enter it until the images were removed from it and in it is a daleel for karaaha for performing Salaah in a house containing images....

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The overwhelming Shirk in the Ummah has been from the direction of Pictures and Graves. Mukhaalif mera hai badaa daana baana Kyaa karoon Mizaaj mera hai bas shareefaana Ye Raaz Hum Say Chhupaayaa hai Meer Waaz Ney Key Misaal na ho meri badee ghusthaakhaana!!

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Status Of Kashf, Ilhaam, Dreams With Ibn al-Qayyim rahimahullaah


This is an explicit proof for what I have stated before that Ibn al-Qayyim's manhaj is the manhaj of Imam Maalik Ibn Anas rahimahullaah.

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Ibn al-Qayyim rahimahullaah re-iterates in I'laam: It is not possible in the least bit for us to reject what has come from Allaah and His Messenger Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam for 1.Opinion of So and So OR 2.Qiyaas OR 3.Taqleed Of An Imaam OR 4.Dream OR 5.Kashf OR 6.Ilhaam OR 7.Whisperings Of The Heart...... Roop hai merey Soofiyaah ka badaa farishthaana
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Chhypey hein qalb mein shayatheen Khabeesaana Ye Raaz Hum Say Chhupaayaa hai Meer Waaz Ney Key har heelaa apney paas hai yahoodaana!!! Hope you soofees stop making excuses behind Kitab-ur-Ruh. I am yet to reveal Ibn al-Qayyim's aqeedah bit by bit biidhnillaah!!!

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Imam Ja'far As-Saadiq rahimahullaah's Admonition To Aboo Haneefah rahimahullaah


Ibn Shabr`mah said: Abu Haneefah and myself entered upon Ja'far Ibn Muhammad Ibn Hanafeeyah and greeted him with salaam for I had friendly relations with him. Then I addressed to Ja'far Ibn Muhammad rahimahullaah..'May Allaah grant us benefit from you, this is a man from the people of Iraaq and he posesses fiqh and aql (intellect). Ja'far said to me: Perhpas, this is (the same) individual who performs Qiyaas upon the deen with his opinion (rai`); then he turned towards me and said: Is he Nu'maan (ibn Thaabith)? Then Aboo Haneefah said to him: Yes (It is me), may Allaah grant you goodness. Ja'far said to him: Fear Allaah! Do not perform qiyaas upon this deen with your opinion(rai`) for the first one to do qiyaas was Iblees. When Allaah Commanded him to perform sajdah to Adam (Alaihis-Salaam): Iblees said: I am superior to him for You created me with fire and You created him with clay. Then he said to Abee Haneefah: Inform me! about the kalimah whose former part is shirk and latter part is eeman? Aboo Haneefah said: I dont know. Ja'far said: It is Laailaaha Illallaah. If one were to only say, Laa Ilaaha and say nothing beyond that then he becomes a mushrik. So this is the kalimah whose former part is shirk and the latter part is eemaan! Then he(Ja'far as-Saadiq rahimahullaah) said: May you be upon destruction! What is greater and heavier with Allaah? Killing a soul that which Allaah has forbidden or zinaa?

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Aboo Haneefah said: But rather Killing a soul then Ja'far as-Saadiq said: Verily Allaah has ordained (in his deen) two witnesses for killing but with regards to zinaa not less than four witnesses are acceptable, so then of what standing is your qiyaas? Then he(Ja'far as-Saadiq) said: What is heavier and greater with Allaah: Fasting or Salaah? Imam Aboo Haneefah responded: The Salaah, (then) Ja'far as-Saadiq (rahimahullaah) said: Then why is it that the menstruating woman has to make up for her fasts while she is exempted from making up her salaah? [Thus Ja'far as-Saadiq tore apart the qiyaas into pieces and Imam Aboo Haneefah rahimahullaah was left with no arguements - Soofi-In-Usool-Hanafee-In-Furoo take heed!! Alhamdulillaah Imam Aboo Haneefah left qiyaas and his final waseeyah was: 'The Saheeh Hadeeth is my Madh`hab'] Imam Ja'far as-Saadiq rahimahullaah said: Fear Allaah O slave of Allaah! So do not make qiyaas. Tomorrow, we and you shall be gathered in front of Allah: and we shall say (to Allaah that we said) Allaah said, and the Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam said; and you will say, I and my companions performed qiyaas in such and such way and (issued fatawas) based on (our) opinions ( as we deemed it befitting based on our intellect) and then Allaah Will deal with us the way He Wishes! And Ibn Wahb said: I heard Maalik bin Anas saying: Hold fast yourself to what the Messenger of Allaah Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam said in his final Hajj sermon: Two things I am leaving behind if you hold fast to them, you shall never go astray, the Book of Allaah and my Sunnah. Ibn Wahah said: Maalik said: The Messenger of Allaah Sallallaahu Alaihi Wa Sallam was the Imaam Of Muslimeen and the Sayyid (leader) of Aalameen (both mankind and jinn) and whenever he would be questioned he would not answer until the wahee comes down from the heavens. quote:

And if he was the Messenger of the Rabb of Aalameen and he would not answer except with Wahee (from Allaah) then it is most astounding is the audacity of an individual who when questioned (responds) with his Rai`(personal opinion), or Qiyaas (anological reasoning), or based upon taqleed, or Urf, or habit, or Siyaasah, or passion, or KASHF or DREAMS, or Ithihsaan, or thoughts and approximations etc. And we seek Allaah's Help (from these desires) and place our reliance upon Him.

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The Usool Of Imam Ahmed Is The Usool Of Ibn al-Qayyim With Da'eef Ahaadeeth

Ibn al-Qayyim rahimahullah said in I'laam, the famous book of Usool: The fourth Usool of Imam Ahmed rahimahullaah was to adopt mursal and da'eef hadeeth in order to extract rulings and base
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the fatwa upon with a condition that there is no saheeh hadeeth opposing it with fully connected chain of narration. He would give precedence to such narrations over qiyaas. But be reminded, that da'eef does not imply baathil or munkar narration. Neither it is such a hadeeth whose narrators have allegations of narrating falsehood (meaning allegation of being liars). quote:

Turning towards such narrations or putting them into practise is FORBIDDEN!

But rather with Imam Ahmed rahimahullaah da'eef is a category of saheeh hadeeth or (preferably, with Imam Ahmed da'eef) a category from the categories of hasan hadeeth. (With Imam Ahmed) there wasn't a categorization of Saheeh, Hasan & Da'eef (while) with Imam Ahmed there is Saheeh, Da'eef and adh-Da'eef . And this da'eef hadeeth has several levels or categories. So when Imam Ahmed would not find any opposing saheeh hadeeth in connection with this type of da'eef hadeeth, or if he did not find any qawl from one from the sahabah or from the ijmaa opposing this hadeeth in question, then he would give this type of hadeeth precedence over qiyaas and act upon manhaj) way of all the A'imma... This is the reality of Ibn al-Qayyim's usool with regards to da'eef ahaadeeth in the matter of general fiqh! Then what about the issues of Usool? Aqeedah? The narrations found in Kitab-ar-Ruh are either weak or extremely weak and are similar to what Ibn Abee Dunya has collected in Kitab-ar-Khuboor. This usool alone demolishes the claims of the Soofeeyah, however, I will list in detail the radd of Ibn al-Qayyim in the specific issues pertaining to munkar soofee practises insha Allaah! Anyone who has researched the books of Ibn al-Qayyim rahimahullaah, even if the person has skimmed through 'Al-Manaar-ul-Muneef Fis-Saheeh-wad-Daeef' would not make such silly claims but Soofeeyathul-Asr are infact Hashawiyyathul-Asr and these claims do not come except from Hashawiyyathul-Asr!!!

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Dead Don't Hear & Reciting Quraan At The Grave is Bidah


From the insinuation of the hashawiyyah of our times is to quote Ibn al-Qayyim rahimahullah ONLY from Kitab-ar-Ruh, in order to decieve common people that they are his followers. Neverthless the crux of my glare unsuspectingly implicates that this trait is inherited by these muraabithoon from their own deobandee-soofee-asharee dogma!! Ibn al-Qayyim rahimahullaah said in his most exemplary book of Usool:

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If from the specified terms & conditions of bequeth by the deceased is to recite the Qur'aan upon his(dead one's) grave then that which is obligatory first and foremost is to rather recite the Qur'aan in the mosque (an not at his grave even if the deceased has specified as such in his will) and it is more beloved to Allaah and His Messenger and it will also benefit the deceased. It is not befitting to leave what is most beneficial(to the dead) and most beloved deed to Allaah and adopt that which is in opposition to it.

And some of them have concocted a grave fissiparous reasoning that one of the objectives of reciting the Qur'aan at the grave is that the dead inside his grave shall be able to hear the recital of the Qur'aan and this is utterly wrong. quote:

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Because hearing the Qur'aan and benefitting is restricted to one's life as it is a voluntary, facultative deed and with the death this choice of performing actions and deeds is cut off.....

End of Ibn al-Qayyim's words.... [Source - I'laam Volume 4 page 500-501] Watch the footnotes where Mashoor Hasan aal-Salmaan hafidhahullah said that Ibn al-Qayyim infact changed his position about recital of the Qur'aan over the dead and restricted every other good deeds performed in order to benefit the dead to the TEXTS (Qur'aan & Sunnah). This is from the greatest of the proofs that Kitab-ar-Ruh was written way before I'laam and Ibn alQayyim changed his position alhamdulillaah. Alhamdulillaah! Sheer victory for the Salafees! What you soofees should also bluetooth into your hearts is the fact that Ibn al-Qayyim DOES NOT BELIEVE that the DEAD HEAR INSIDE THE GRAVE!!!! These are the decisive words of Ibn al-Qayyim rahimahullaah. Soofeeyah are truly beguiled. Shame on Sarfraaz Safdar Khan, the scion of the deoband who wrote two books, the former being Simaa-ul-Mawthaa and the latter being Taskeen-as-Sudoor rebutting Shifaa-us-Sudoor & Nidaa-e-Haq and astonishingly both contain extreme deception. On page 159 of the first book he quotes from Kitab-ar-Ruh, page 4, and concludes that this is the aqeedah of Ibn al-Qayyim that dead hear inside their graves. Al-Albaanee rahimahullaah (see post above) refuted this claim in Aayaathul Bayyinaath from a different perspective and Insha Allaah I will provide the details of this decisive radd based on which Ibn al-Qayyim fought Jahmiyyah and Mu'atthilah not to mention Mu'tazila and Kullaabiyyah but how is it befitting for a man like Sarfraaz Safdar to restrict his research JUST AROUND KITABAR-RUH?? He then mentions on page 205 and quotes from Kitab-ar-Ruh, page 4, the isthidhlaal of Ibn al-Qayyim based on the hadeeth reported on the authority of Ibn Abbas radhiAllaahu anhu. And I will quote the status of this narration in detail. There are two types of Muhaqqiq. One is a person who performs thahqeeq while the other type of muhaqqiq is the one who smokes huqqah (waterpipe/cheecha/nagrile). I believe this Sarfraaz Safdar Khan is the latter type. For how on earth does he find Kitab-ar-Ruh printed from Hyderabad Deccan while does not look into the other books of Ibn al-Qayyim easily available in Karachi? Urdu Bazar Lahore? At least the urdu translation? Had he admitted that his research had been limited, I would not pass such comments but he has been grossly deceptive...laa hawla walaa quwaatha illaah Billaah!

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Attached is the scan from Sima-ul-Mawtaa of Sarfraaz Safdar Khan Deobandee from Pakistan. Printed at Maktaba Safdareeyah, Nazd-Madrassa Nusrathul-Uloom, Gujranwala. He has compiled 366 pages to defend the claim that dead have the ability to hear in their graves. He has been given the title Shaykh-ul-Hadees!

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The scan from page 159, contains a quote from Kitab-ar-Ruh page 4 where the author makes qiyaas based on the hadeeth regarding etiquette of greeting when visiting the graves. Since the greeting for the dead is similar to the greeting of the living, the author derives from it based on qiyaas that the dead hear and recognize the visitors to the graves. Al-Albaanee has refuted this claim of the author based on the author's own usool upon which he has refuted the jahmiyyah and the mu'atthilah. What I have quoted above from Ibn al-Qayyim rahimahullaah from I'laamul Muwaqqi'een is a crystal clear recantation, tremendous clarification after which his previous comments (if this attribution of Kitab-ar-Ruh is genuine) are all nullified.

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Attached is the scan from Simaa-ul-Mawtaa, page 205 where Sarfraaz Safdar Khan quotes from Kitab-ar-Ruh the narration from Ibn Abbaas radhiAllaahu anhu. I will mention its inauthenticity from Ibn Rajab and al-Albaanee in due course insha Allaah. From these quotes, Sarfraaz Safdar makes the following conclusion right on the following page, #160

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Sarfraaz Khan said: "Haafidh Ibn Katheer rahimahullaah and Haafidh Ibn al-Qayyim rahimahullaah were the head of muwaahideen of their times and if they would have slightest of doubt that this matter constitutes shirk or a sabab for shirk (leading to shirk) they would openly, in a clear undettered fashion would pen down warning against it and would not make any excuse of a mas'laha. Not only this affirmation but rather a clear decisive evidences based on reasoning and texts of these two muwahideen (upholders of tawheed) noble ones is to prove that the hearing of the dead is haq and the sheer truth...." End of quote from Sarfraaz Safdar Khan. I say, and so it is! Ibn al-Qayyim has refuted it in an undettered fashion. Did not Ibn al-Qayyim clearly refute it in his later book full of thahqeeq that dead do not hear? Not even the recital of the Qur'aan, let alone people flocking at their graves in order to seek the faiz bathinee O Safdar! How many chapters has ibn al-Qayyim written in refuting those who perform qiyaas? Qiyaas in the issues of fiqh so let alone the matters of aqeedah. Our complain is to Allaah! How on earth a muhaqqiq, shaykh-ul-hadeeth can ignore these irrefutable evidences gushing and pelting upon the deoboos from I'laam. So today I am glad I taught the deoboos that this book is not a book of fiqh! Its a book of Usool Walillaahil-hamd! I do not have any words left for the muraabits infested in the west, who decorate their web pages with lies and deceptions!!! Refuge of Allaah is sought from lies and deceptions!

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Salaf-us-Saalih & Recitation Of Qur'aan At The Graves


The following is mentioned in one of the books of hanafee fiqh. This evidence is used by Sarfaraz Safdar Khan to prove that Ibn Hammam believed that the recitation of the Qur'aan at the grave was permissible And the dead could benefit from it.
Volume 16 Page 46 Fataawa A'lamgeeri

If any person recites the Qur'aan near the grave with an intention that the dead (inside the grave) become attentive & affected due to his recitation of the Qur'aan, then he should without doubt do it, and even if he does not intend it then Allah Ta'aala hears the Qur'aan wheresover it is recited. This is how it has been (reported) in Fataawa Qaadee Khan [ He is Hasan bin Mansoor rahimahullah, a faqeeh from the hanafiyyah] The objection we have is the fact that Sarfaraz Khan shamelessly quotes from Kitab ar Ruh and ascribes many things to Ibn al-Qayyim rahimahullah ( besides Ibn Taymiyyah, Ibn Katheer & Siddique Hasan) however, he is heedless of what Ibn al-Qayyim has mentioned decisively in other books ~ This is sheer deception! This can be found in Volume 6, Page 82; what I mentioned above with regards to recitation of the Qur'aan at the grave and its refutation by Ibn al-Qayyim is in Volume 4. In essence, Ibn al-Qayyim has repeated and elaborated this assertion of his. This is his aqeedah and what has been mentioned in Kitab ar Ruh cannot be taken in isolation when this great Imam has re-iterated his stance, refuted this claim and repeated it in two different volumes of his most famous of works of usool. Ibn al-Qayyim rahimahullah states that he questioned some from the people of fadhl ( meaning ahl-ul-ilm) to which they agreed ( that the will of reciting the Qur'aan at the grave is not permissible and therefore
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cannot be implemented); however, they disclosed a doubt that perhaps the one who died had an intention that he would hear the Qur'aan that is recited at his grave (after his death) and obtain benefit from it and barakah ( blessings ) by listening to the recitation of the Qur'aan. Ibn al-Qayyim informs that he responded to them that obtaining benefit by listening to the recitation of the Qur'aan was conditional to his life. And when he is dead, then all his deeds have been cut off. It is well known that hearing the recital of the Qur'aan is one of the best (righteous) actions from the deeds that are righteous; and when his death has cut off all his actions then how could this action have been left out? If there had been such a possibility ( allowance of this deed of reciting the Qur'aan at the grave) , then the Salaf-us-Saaliheen, the Sahabah and the Taabi'een and those who followed them would not have been deprived of this tremendous and marvelous action. They were those who would pounce on every righteous deed and were most greedy of performing the good. And if there was any khayr ( benefit) in (reciting the Qur'aan at the graves) those who preceded us would have most assuredly acted upon it.... [End of words of Ibn al-Qayyim]

So Sarfaraz Khan is not upon the aqeedah of Ibn al-Qayyim; all he has done in his "366" chapters is mere deception! He should remove Ibn al-Qayyim from his entire work if he reprints this book. [See Simaa wal-Mawtaa, page 243].

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How Taqleed Blinds The Author Of Nida e Haq!


The author of Nida e Haq was battered by Sarfaraz Safdar Khan over the issue of dead hearing the recital of the Quran and being affected due to it. Since the author of Nida e Haq is a hanafee muqallid, he could not walk away from what is mentioned in the hanafee books of fiqh. So he attempted in vain to make taweel that the dead benefit from the recital of the Quran in the same way as that of the two green stems (of shrubs) planted by the Messenger of Allah Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam on the grave of the person who was being punished due to urine and tale carrying. It was just a piece of cake for Sarfaraz to rebuke the author owing to the fact that the fiqh books explicitly indicate the dead hear the voice and get affected due to the voice of the one reciting the Quran at the grave. However, ibn al-Qayyim clearly said as mentioned above that the recital of the Quran at the grave

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is neither proven from the Messenger of Allah sallallahu alaihi wa sallam nor from any of the companions or those who followed them. So this action itself needs an explicit proof due to it being ibaadah then how can you base your argument on an innovation? So this action cannot be used to prove some kayfiyyah of the ghaib.
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