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Hitler's Table Talk and Christianity

by Jim Walker
Originated: 18 Aug. !!! Additi"ns made: # July. !!$

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Thr"ugh"ut the )eb *ages "n Hitler's Christianity+ , ha-e relied mainly "n .irst/hand &u"tes .r"m the in.am"us man himsel.: Hitler's b""k '0ein 1am*.+' his s*ee2hes re2"rded by 2amera+ radi"+ *r"2lamati"ns+ and letters *ers"nally )ritten and signed by Hitler. , did n"t rely "n hearsay a22"unts be2ause th"se )h" admired "r hated him had reas"n t" embellish their ")n belie.s "nt" him. The best )ay t" e-aluate a *ers"n in-"l-es e3amining the )"rds and a2ti"ns ". the *ers"n dire2tly rather than indire2tly .r"m edit"rs and hearsay a22"unts. H")e-er+ )hene-er addressing the hist"ry ". Hitler+ it )"uld n"t deem .air t" e32lude menti"n ". alleged sayings ". Hitler+ .r"m a*"2ry*hal s"ur2es su2h as the 45e2ret C"n-ersati"ns )ith Hitler+4 4Hitler / 0em"irs ". a C"n.idant+4 Albert 5*eer's mem"irs "r 4Hitler's Table Talk4 6als" re.erred t" as 47ri-ate C"n-ersati"ns48. 0"stly .r"m the latter d" "**"nents against Hitler's Christianity usually re.er. 9"r Hitler's Table Talk is the "nly s"ur2e )here "ne 2an .ind Hitler+ allegedly+ den"un2ing religi"n t" su2h a degree.

Hitler's Table Talk Th"se )h" deny Hitler as a Christian )ill in-ariably .ind the re2"rded table talk 2"n-ersati"ns ". Hitler .r"m 1$:1 t" 1$:: as in2"ntr"-ertible e-iden2e that he 2"uld n"t ha-e been a Christian. The s"ur2e usually 2"mes .r"m the ;nglish translati"n 6.r"m a 9ren2h translati"n8 editi"n by <"rman Camer"n and %. H. 5te-ens+ )ith an intr"du2ti"n by H.%. Tre-"r/%"*er. The table/talk has Hitler saying su2h things su2h as: 4, shall ne-er 2"me t" terms )ith the Christian lie. . .4+ 4Our e*"2h )ill 2ertainly see the end ". the disease ". Christianity4. The *r"blem )ith these anti/Christian &u"tes is that the (erman te3t ". the table/talk d"es n"t in2lude them+ they )ere made u* by 9ran="is (en"ud+ the translat"r ". the 9ren2h -ersi"n+ the -ery -ersi"n that ;nglish translati"ns rely "n> 60"re "n this bel")8. ;-en i. y"u belie-ed the table/talk in2luded the anti/Christian &u"tes+ n")here in the talk d"es Hitler s*eak against Jesus "r his ")n brand ". Christianity. On the 2"ntrary+ the table/talk has Hitler s*eaking admirably ab"ut Jesus. Hitler did+ ". 2"urse 2riti2i?e "rgani?ed religi"n in a *"liti2al sense 6as d" many Christians t"day8+ but ne-er in a religi"us sense. @ut the *r"blems )ith using Hitler's table talk 2"n-ersati"ns as e-iden2e ."r Hitler's a*"stasy are many."ld: 18 The reliability ". the s"ur2e 6hearsay and editing by the anti/Cath"li2+ @"rmann8 8 The reliability ". multi*le translati"ns+ .r"m (erman t" 9ren2h t" ;nglish. #8 The bias ". the translat"rs 6es*e2ially (en"ud8. :8 The table/talk re.le2ts th"ughts that d" n"t "22ur in Hitler's "ther *ri-ate "r *ubli2 2"n-ersati"ns.

A8 <")here d"es Hitler den"un2e Jesus "r his ")n brand ". Christianity. B8 The 4anti/Christian4 *"rti"ns ". Table/Talk d"es n"t 2"n2ur )ith Hitler's a2ti"ns ."r 4*"siti-e4 Christianity.

The reliability of the source <"t "ne ". Hitler's table talk 2"n-ersati"ns )ere re2"rded "r 2a*tured by audi"+ .ilm+ "r br"ad2ast "n radi". A22"rding t" H.%. Tre-"r/%"*er+ Hitler re.used t" admit any me2hani2al re2"rder int" his r""m. Hitler relu2tantly all")ed 0artin @"rmann t" *i2k sten"gra*hers 6Heim+ 7iker8 t" re2"rd the 2"n-ersati"ns. ,t )as @"rmann's idea t" re2"rd Hitler's th"ughts in the .irst *la2e. ,n a .a2simile )ritten a.ter the last ". Hitler's re2"rded table talk+ @"rmann )r"te a dire2ti-e that stated: 47lease kee* these n"tes m"st 2are.ully+ as they )ill be ". -ery great -alue in the .uture. , ha-e n") g"t Heim t" make 2"m*rehensi-e n"tes as a basis ."r these minutes. Any transcript which is not quite apposite will be re-checked by me.4 CTre-"r/%"*er+ insetD 6b"ld 2hara2ters+ mine8 4A**"site4 means+ .ittingE suitableE a**r"*riate. ;3a2tly )hat @"rmann means by 4re/2he2ked4 2an "nly be s*e2ulated u*"n. H")e-er+ it bears im*"rtan2e here that neither Heim n"r @"rmann 2"uld hardly be in a *"siti"n t" determine )hat deems a**"site+ 2"nsidering @"rmann's biased -ie)s against Cath"li2ism. 5h"uld )e take it as sim*ly 2"in2iden2e that the 2hur2h den"un2ements by Hitler in the Table/Talk *arallel the anti/2hur2h sentiments ". 0artin @"rmann+ but n")here elseF 0artin @"rmann ser-ed as the instigat"r+ .uel+ and reas"n ."r the *er2e*ti"n ". many Christians that <a?ism )as against Christianity. 0any times+ &u"tes attributed t" Hitler are a2tually @"rmann's. ,t is )ell kn")n that @"rmann se2retly )"rked against the Cath"li2 religi"n behind Hitler's ba2k and )ith"ut his *ermissi"n. ,t has been *"inted "ut that 4the .ight against the 2hur2h "rgani?ati"ns4 )ere @"rmann's *et *r"Ge2t. ,n s*ite ". @"rmann's re*eated attem*ts t" *ersuade Hitler t" a2t against the Chur2hes+ Hitler insisted that 4There has been n" "..i2ial 7arty ann"un2ement+ n"r )ill there be "ne.4 CH"nIang+ *.1$1D H") 2an any h"nest seeker ". truth rely "n Hitler's table talk )hen the entire trans2ri*t )as edited and ke*t by the anti/Cath"li2 @"rmannF T)" s2ribes re2"rded Hitler's 2"n-ersati"ns at the a**"intment ". 0artin @"rmann. One )as re2"rded by a 2i-il ser-ant in the %ei2h 0inistry ". Justi2e+ Heinri2h Heim .r"m Ath July 1$:1 t" !th 0ar2h 1$: . Iater+ .r"m 1st 0ar2h 1$: until #1st July 1$: + it )as taken by Jr. Henry 7iker. The re2"rd+ )hether taken by Heim "r 7i2ker+ )as *assed t" @"rmann. @"rmann made t)" 2"*ies ". his re2"rd. One ". these )as ke*t in the 9uhererbau in 0uni2h and )as burnt at the end ". the )arE the "ther )as sent t" the @ergh". at @er2htesgaden and 2ame ultimately int" the hands ". (en"ud. It is this second copy of which the volume of Hitler's table talk was translated. CTre-"r/%"*er+ *.-iiiD 0"re"-er+ Jr. 7i2ker regarded his ")n re2"rding as authenti2 and insisted that 4n" 2"n.iden2e 2an be *la2ed in @"rmann's editing ". it.4 ,ndeed+ he )rites+ rather testily+ ". 4@"rmann's alterati"ns+ n"t auth"rised by me.4 CTre-"r/%"*er+ *.-iiiD. Kn."rtunately+ )e d" n"t ha-e the unaltered -ersi"n ". Jr. 7i2ker's "r Heim's re2"rdings. ,n "ther )"rds+ there are n" "riginals and the 2"*ies )ere .iltered and edited by @"rmann. The table talk 2ann"t be 2"nsidered a .irst/hand re2"rding ". Hitler's )"rds. On this .a2t al"ne+ , 2ann"t )ith

integrity "r 2ertainty use them as a s"ur2e ."r Hitler's -"i2e+ es*e2ially in regards t" religi"n )hi2h 2"uld -ery )ell re.le2t the anti/Cath"li2 biased @"rmann. Alth"ugh n")here d"es Tre-"r/%"*er argue against Hitler's Christianity+ he d"es *r"-ide us )ith a rather dubi"us reas"n ."r a22e*ting Hitler's table talk: 4We must g" dire2t t" Hitler's *ers"nal utteran2es: n"t indeed t" his letters and s*ee2hes// these+ th"ugh -aluable+ are t"" *ubli2+ t"" ."rmalised ."r su2h *ur*"ses// but t" his *ri-ate 2"n-ersati"ns+ his Table/ Talk. Table/Talk+ like n"teb""ks+ re-eal the mind ". a man .ar m"re 2"m*letely+ m"re intimately+ than any ."rmal utteran2e.4 CTre-"r/%"*er+ *.3i-D Kn."rtunately+ Tre-"r/%"*er .ails t" gi-e us a reas"n )hy the Table/Talk su**"sedly gi-es a m"re intimate l""k at a *ers"n. On the 2"ntrary+ , )"uld .ind it .ar m"re re-ealing t" hear a reas"ned and th"ught "ut res*"nse as this )"uld m"re likely *r"-ide an a22urate a22"unt ". "ne's a2tual thinking. 6, )"uld shudder t" think h") "ne )"uld misinter*ret my *ers"nal .eelings .r"m my utteran2es during lighthearted dial"g.8 @ut m"re damaging t" Tre-"r/%"*er's reas"ning is that the Table/Talks )ere n"t *ri-ate> Hitler kne) all al"ng that the s2ribes )ere there t" gi-e an a22"unt ". him ."r .uture *"sterity. These )ere as *ubli2 as any ". Hitler's letters and *re/)ritten s*ee2hes. 5" in )hat sense 2"uld these 'l""se' 2"n-ersati"ns re-eal m"re than letters and s*ee2hesF Tre-"r/%"*er n"r any"ne else gi-es us a g""d ans)er.

The table talk reflects thoughts that do not occur in Hitler's other private or public conversations ,. Hitler a2tually desired t" eliminate *ers"nal Christianity+ then )hy d" )e n"t .ind it in his "ther *ri-ate dial"gs and 2"n-ersati"nsF Why d" )e n"t .ind it in any ". his *ubli2 s*ee2hes "r inter-ie)sF ,n the 5e2ret C"n-ersati"ns )ith Hitler+ t)" re2ently dis2"-ered 2"n.idential inter-ie)s )ere gi-en by %i2hard @reiting in 1$#1. @reiting )as a member ". the (erman 7e"*le's 7arty. ,n these 2"n-ersati"ns+ 6)hi2h )ere a2tually m"re *ri-ate than the Table/Talk8+ Hitler re-eals his aims and *lans. Iike the Table/Talk+ the n"tes )ere taken in sh"rt/hand. Knlike the Table/Talk+ )hi2h Hitler kne) )"uld later be re-ealed+ Hitler )as assured that his statements )"uld be ke*t se2ret. CCali2+ *.11D 0"re"-er+ the 5e2ret C"n-ersati"ns )ere authenti2ated as )ritten s"lely by @reiting 6unlike the editing by @"rmann8. Let n")here in these 2"n-ersati"ns d"es Hitler den"un2e religi"n. On the 2"ntrary+ Hitler menti"ns a 2"n2iliati"n )ith %"man and (erman Cath"li2ism )here 4*e"*le like -"n 7a*en and many "thers are establishing g""d relati"ns )ith the Hati2an.4 ,n Hitler// 0em"irs ". a C"n.idant+ Hitler re-eals himsel. thr"ugh 2"n-ersati"n t" 2"lleagues .r"m a 2"n.eren2e "n e2"n"mi2 *"li2y. ,n it Hitler is re*"rted t" ha-e s*"ken+ gl")ingly+ ab"ut raising the 4treasures ". the li-ing Christ+4 4the *erse2uti"n ". the true Christians and san2tim"ni"us 2hur2hes that ha-e *la2ed themsel-es bet)een ("d and man and t" turn a)ay .r"m the anti/Christian + smug indi-idualism ". the *ast+4 and 4t" edu2ate the y"uth in *arti2ular in the s*irit ". th"se ". Christ's )"rds that )e must inter*ret ane): l"-e "ne an"therE be 2"nsiderate ". y"ur .ell") manE remember that ea2h ". y"u is n"t al"ne a 2reature ". ("d+ but that y"u are all br"thers>4 CTurner+ Ch. #D <")here in the 0em"irs d" )e .ind a @"rmann/like anti/Christian statements as ."und in the Table/ Talk.

owhere does Hitler denounce !esus or his "hristianity A damaging bl") t" any a*"l"gist argument against Hitler's Christianity 2"mes .r"m the .a2t that n")here in any kn")n s"ur2e d"es Hitler den"un2e his Christianity "r Jesus. ,. "ne is t" use the Table/Talk as e-iden2e against Hitler's Christianity+ then )here d"es it a**earF <")here in Tre-"r/%"*er's intr"du2ti"n d"es he argue that Hitler )as n"t a Christian. <")here in the 2"n-ersati"ns ". Table/Talk+ d"es Hitler den"un2e his Christianity "r Jesus. On the 2"ntrary+ Hitler's 6"r @"rmann's editing8 aims t" sh") that the Church ."rm ". religi"n *r"du2es lies+ and that the "riginal Christian religi"n )as an in2arnati"n ". @"lshe-ism+ .r"m a .alsi.i2ati"n .r"m 5t. 7aul. @ut )hene-er he menti"ns Christ+ Hitler has n"thing but admirati"n: Originally+ Christianity )as merely an in2arnati"n ". @"lshe-ism the destr"yer. <e-ertheless+ the (alilean+ )h" later )as 2alled Christ+ intended s"mething &uite di..erent. He must be regarded as a *"*ular leader )h" t"" u* His *"siti"n against Je)ry. (alilee )as a 2"l"ny )here the %"mans had *r"bably installed (alli2 legi"naries+ and it's 2ertain that Jesus )as n"t a Je). The Je)s+ by the )ay+ regarded Him as the s"n ". a )h"re// ". a )h"re and a %"man s"ldier. The de2isi-e .alsi.i2ati"n ". Jesus's d"2trine )as the )"rk ". 5t. 7aul. He ga-e himsel. t" this )"rk )ith subtlety and ."r *ur*"ses ". *ers"nal e3*l"itati"n. 9"r the (aliean's "bGe2t )as t" liberate His 2"untry .r"m Je)ish "**ressi"n. He set Himsel. against Je)ish 2a*italism+ and that's )hy the Je)s li&uidated Him. /Hitler CTable/Talk+ *. MBD Christ )as an Aryan+ and 5t. 7aul used his d"2trine t" m"bilise the 2riminal under)"rld and thus "rganise a *r"t"/@"lse-ism. /Hitler CTable/Talk+ *. 1:#D As t"rtured as Hitler's l"gi2 is+ He ne-er 2"ndemns Jesus. On the 2"ntrary+ he sees Jesus as an Aryan+ a liberat"r against Je)ish "**ressi"n> ,. Hitler did n"t see himsel. as a Christian+ then )hy d"esn't he 2"ndemn JesusF Why d"esn't he a22use Christ as being a Je)F Why d"es he see Christ as a liberat"rF @i"gra*her J"hn T"land e3*lains Hitler's reas"n ."r e3terminating the Je)s: 5till a member in g""d standing ". the Chur2h ". %"me des*ite detestati"n ". its hierar2hy+ ', am n") as be."re a Cath"li2 and )ill al)ays remain s"+' he 2arried )ithin him its tea2hing that the Je) )as the killer ". ("d. The e3terminati"n+ there."re+ 2"uld be d"ne )ith"ut a t)inge ". 2"ns2ien2e sin2e he )as merely a2ting as the a-enging hand ". ("d// s" l"ng as it )as d"ne im*ers"nally+ )ith"ut 2ruelty. CT"land+ *. M!#D 0"re"-er+ there are n" kn")n d"2uments+ s*ee2hes+ "r *r"2lamati"ns by Hitler )here he e-en 2"mes 2l"se t" den"un2ing his belie. in Christianity+ "r Jesus. The 7r"testant and Cath"li2 Chur2hes in Hitler's time ne-er a22used Hitler ". a*"stasy. Hitler's Christianity in (ermany )as ne-er &uesti"ned until years a.ter WW,, and then "nly by Western Christians )h" are embarrassed t" ha-e him as a member ". their .aith/system. The reas"ning by the a*"l"gists in regards t" the Table/Talk seems t" be that be2ause Hitler s*"ke against "rgani?ed religi"n+ then he must there."re be anti/Christian. @ut e-en i. )e take this sim*listi2 a**r"a2h and assume the Table/Talk as the a2tual th"ughts and belie.s ". Hitler+ it .ails ."r the sim*le reas"n that dismissing a religi"n ". "ne's ")n .aith d"es n"t e32lude "r e32use "ne .r"m a *ers"nal belie. as a Christian. A Christian is sim*ly a *ers"n )h" belie-es in ("d and Jesus in s"me ."rm "r manner. Christianity+ the b"dy ". belie-ing *e"*le+ sim*ly d"es n"t re&uire "rgani?ed religi"n at all.

There are many e3am*les ". *r"minent Christians )h" den"un2ed religi"ns )h" "**"sed their ")n *ers"nal belie.s. ,ndeed+ the 7r"testant re."rmer+ 0artin Iuther )h" )as "n2e a Cath"li2 m"nk+ den"un2ed the Cath"li2 hierar2hy as the )"rk ". the anti/Christ and establised by the Je-il CAgainst the Papacy established by the Devil 61A:A8D. Let , ha-e yet t" see a Iutheran a22use Iuther as being a n"n/Christian. The hist"ry ". Christianity is .illed )ith e3am*les ". *e"*le ". di..ering Christian .aiths den"un2ing ea2h "ther. , ha-e *ers"nally 2"n-ersed )ith many Christians )h" ha-e den"un2ed all ."rms ". religi"us "rgani?ati"ns+ yet they ha-e a str"ng belie. in ("d and Jesus Christ. ,ndeed+ e-en the Table/Talk has Hitler saying: Iuther had the merit ". rising against the 7"*e and the "rganisati"n ". the Chur2h. ,t )as the .irst ". the great re-"luti"ns. And thanks t" his translati"n ". the @ible+ Iuther re*la2ed "ur diale2ts by the great (erman language> /Table/Talk C*. $D ,. sim*ly s*eaking against a Christian religi"n )ere en"ugh t" "ust "ne .r"m Christianity+ then s"me ". the m"st in.luential Christians )"uld ha-e t" reside )ith Hitler. The *a*a2y is truly the real *")er and tyranny ". the Anti2hrist.... As beauti.ul as it )as t" kee* a state ". -irginity+ in the early days ". Christianity+ s" ab"minable has it n") be2"me+ )hen it is used as a means ". eli2iting Christ's hel* and gra2e. /0artin Iuther 6Iuther's C"n.essi"n+ 0ar2h 1A 88 We maintain that the g"-ernment ". the Chur2h )as 2"n-erted int" a s*e2ies ". ."ul and insu..erable tyranny. /J"hn Cal-in 6The <e2essity ". %e."rming the Chur2h+ 1A::8 ,. )e used the same l"gi2 ". the a*"l"gists against Hitler+ then )e sh"uld rem"-e Iuther+ Cal-in+ and many "ther *r"minent s"/2alled/Christians .r"m membershi* ". Christianity.

The Table-Talk does not concur with Hitler's actions for his views for "hristianity 9urther inGuries t" the argument against Hitler's Christianity re-eals itsel. in Hitler's ")n *ers"nal a2ti"ns t")ard Christianity. ,. Hitler had really )ished t" eliminate Christianity+ then )hy did he a2t t" unite the 7r"testant and Cath"li2 Chur2hes in (ermanyF ,. Hitler )anted t" den"un2e Christianity+ then )hy did he remain a Cath"li2 in g""d standing until he diedF Why did Hitler n"t break the C"n2"rdat bet)een the Hati2an and (ermanyF A 2ase might be made that Hitler signed the C"n2"rdat in the .irst *la2e+ t" hel* himsel. int" *")er+ but by n" means d"es it e3*lain )hy he ke*t it a.ter )inning *")er. His abs"lute *")er ". the (erman state+ Hitler 2"uld ha-e+ at any time+ br"ke the C"n2"rdat i. he )as s" against the Cath"li2 religi"n. Why did he n"t d" s"+ n"r e-en 2"nsider itF ,n Albert 5*eer's mem"irs+ 5*eer re2alls Hitler as saying: 4The 2hur2h is 2ertainly ne2essary ."r the *e"*le. ,t is a str"ng and 2"nser-ati-e element.4 C5*eer+ *. $AD Alth"ugh Hitler a**r"-ed ". destr"ying Judaism and "ther 2ults+ ne-er did he gi-e "rders against the 7r"testant "r Cath"li2 Chur2h. Why n"tF ;-en in the Table/Talk+ alth"ugh he )ished the '@"lshe-ism' ."rm ". Christianity t" die a natural death+ he e3*ressed his -ie)s "n the .uture:

, en-isage the .uture+ there."re+ as ."ll")s: 9irst ". all+ t" ea2h man his *ri-ate 2reed. 5u*erstiti"n shall n"t l"se its rights. The 7arty is sheltered .r"m the danger ". 2"m*eting )ith the religi"ns. /Table/Talk C*. B D <"r 2an the Table/Talk be used t" argue ."r an atheist Hitler: We d"n't )ant t" edu2ate any"ne in atheism. Table/Talk C*. BD An unedu2ated man+ "n the "ther hand+ runs the risk ". g"ing "-er t" atheism 6)hi2h is a return t" the state ". the animal8... Table/Talk C*. A$D <"r 2an the Table/Talk be used t" argue ."r a *agan Hitler: ,t seems t" me that n"thing )"uld be m"re .""lish than t" re/establish the )"rshi* ". W"tan. Our "ld myth"l"gy had 2eased t" be -iable )hen Christianity im*lanted itsel.. /Table/Talk C*. B1D ,. Hitler )as "**"sed t" *ers"nal Christianity then )hy did he "rder his 2hie. ass"2iates+ in2luding ("ering and ("ebbles+ t" remain members ". the 2hur2hF Hitler t""+ remained in the 2hur2h until he died. C5*eer+ *. $A/$BE Helmrei2h+ *. !D The <a?i *r"gramme 2alled ."r 4*"siti-e Christianity.4 Why did Hitler in2lude Christianity )ithin his ")n 2"nstituti"nF ;-en m"re re-ealing is that Hitler ne-er eliminated the Christian statement. ,. Hitler )as s" set against Christianity+ )hy did he kee* it inF 5*eer+ it must be remembered+ )as Hitler's ar2hite2t )h" had *lanned the .uture buildings ". @erlin. Hitler's *lan ."r the .uture in2luded the building ". ne) 2hur2hes. 5*eer had 2"nsulted )ith the 7r"testant and Cath"li2 auth"rities "n the l"2ati"n ". 2hur2hes in the ne) se2ti"n ". @erlin. A22"rding t" 5*eer+ 4@"rmann 2urtly in."rmed me that 2hur2hes )ere n"t t" re2ei-e building sites.4 C5*eer+ *. 1MMD. Again+ this sh")s the bias against Christianity by @"rmann+ the edit"r ". the Table/Talk. ;-en m"re re-ealing .r"m 5*eer 2"mes this re-elati"n: ;-en a.ter 1$: Hitler )ent "n maintaining that he regarded the 2hur2h as indis*ensable in *"liti2al li.e. He )"uld be ha**y+ he said in "ne ". th"se teatime talks at Obersal?berg+ i. s"meday a *r"minent 2hur2hman turned u* )h" )as suited t" lead "ne ". the 2hur2hes/ "r i. *"ssible b"th the Cath"li2 and 7r"testant 2hur2hes reunited. He still regretted that %ei2h @ish"* 0uller )as n"t the right man t" 2arry "ut his .ar/rea2hing *lans. @ut he sharply condemned the campaign against the church+ 2alling it a 2rime against the .uture ". the nati"n. 9"r it )as im*"ssible+ he said+ t" re*la2e the 2hur2h by any *arty ide"l"gy. C5*eer+ *. $AD 6b"ld 2hara2ters+ mine8 Hitler had n" *r"blem )ith the eliminati"n ". the Je)ish religi"n but n"te that the Christian Chur2hes in (ermany remained str"ng until Hitler died. 5" mu2h ."r Hitler's alleged -ie)s t" eliminate the Christian 2hur2hes.

#nused quotes ,n an attem*t t" re)rite hist"ry+ th"se )h" desire t" eliminate Hitler .r"m membershi* ". Christianity+ al)ays .ind an e32use t" dismiss Hitler's a2tual )"rds. ,nstead they rely "n indire2t &u"tes .r"m a &uesti"nable s"ur2e su2h as @"rmann's edited -ersi"n ". the table talk. @ut i. )e )ere t" use this ."rm ". dubi"us s2h"larshi*+ sh"uldn't )e als" &u"te Hitler .r"m "ther indire2t s"ur2esF ,. s"+ then+ again+

their *lan .ails and re-eals the slanting ". their bias. 9"r i. )e t""k these a*"2ry*hal s"ur2es as e-iden2e+ then Hitler's Christianity be2"me e-en m"re e-ident. Th"se )h" kne) Hitler remarked ab"ut his Christian -ie)s. Here )e ha-e a Christian minister t" his .ell") Christians: ,. any"ne 2an lay 2laim t" ("d's hel*+ then it is Hitler+ ."r )ith"ut ("d's bene-"lent .atherly hand+ )ith"ut his blessing+ the nati"n )"uld n"t be )here it stands t"day. ,t is an unbelie-able mira2le that ("d has best")ed "n "ur *e"*le. /0inister %ust+ in a s*ee2h t" a mass meeting ". (erman Chrisitans "n June $+ 1$## CHelmrei2h+ *. 1#8D

The established 0eth"dist 2hur2h *a*er+ the Friedensglocke+ -"u2hed ."r the authenti2ity ". a st"ry ab"ut Hitler )here he in-ited a gr"u* ". dea2"nesses .r"m the @ethel ,nstituti"ns int" his h"me at Obersal?berg: The dea2"nesses entered the 2hamber and )ere ast"nished t" see the *i2tures ". 9rederi2k the (reat+ Iuther+ and @ismar2k "n the )all. Then Hitler said: Th"se are the three greatest men that ("d has gi-en the (erman *e"*le. 9r"m 9redri2k the (reat , ha-e learned bra-ery+ and .r"m @ismar2k state2ra.t. The greatest ". the three is Jr. 0artin Iuther+ ."r he made it *"ssible t" bring unity am"ng the (erman tribes by gi-ing them a 2"mm"n language thr"ugh his translati"n ". the @ible int" (erman.... C<"te that Hitler's ")n )"rds ab"ut his admirati"n ."r 0artin Iuther are e3*ressed in 0ein 1am*..D One sister 2"uld n"t re.rain .r"m saying: Herr %ei2hkan?ler+ .r"m )here d" y"u get the 2"urage t" undertake the great 2hanges in the )h"le %ei2hF Thereu*"n Hitler t""k "ut ". his *"2ket the <e) Testament ". Jr. 0artin Iuther+ )hi2h "ne 2"uld see had been used -ery mu2h+ and said earnestly: 49r"m ("d's )"rd.4CHelmrei2h+ *. 1#$D ;-en the Cardinal 9aulhaber ". 0uni2h )h" -isited Hitler at his m"untain retreat in Obersal?burg 2"n.essed: With"ut a d"ubt the 2han2ell"r li-es in .aith in ("d. He re2"gni?es Christianity as the ."undati"n ". Western 2ulture...CHelmrei2h+ *. M$D And this 2"mes .r"m re*utable Christian s"ur2es ". the day in2luding a Cardinal> H") "dd that there are Christians t"day )h" think they 2an di-ine the mind ". an anti/Christian Hitler they ne-er met+ rem"-ed by a generati"n+ and dismiss all his dire2t &u"tes ab"ut Jesus+ )hile denying their ")n brethren ". the Chur2h )h" a2tually talked )ith Hitler. ,. *r"minent Christians in the 1$#!s 2"uld be s" easily de2ei-ed+ 2"uld n"t be the same be a**lied t" t"day's ChristiansF And i. de2e*ti"n des2ribes the tem*er ". the .aith.ul+ then )hat d"es that say ."r Christianity as a )h"le and the thinking *r"2ess that it entailsF

And "n Hitler's allegian2e t" his 4true4 Christian s*irit: , d" n"t remember e-en a single "22asi"n )hen Hitler ga-e any instru2ti"ns that ran 2"unter t" the true Christian s*irit and t" humaness. /Wagener+ in Hitler// Memoirs of a Confinant+ *.1:M T" Wagener+ Hitler 2"n.essed his attitude t")ard his -ie) ". true Christianity as a ."rm ". s"2ialism as "**"sed t" th"se he th"ught did n"t understand Christianity. <"te Hitler's -ie) here ". s"2ialism )as n"t like that ". 2"mmunism 6Hitler detested 2"mmunism8 but rather "ne ". a <ati"nal nature 6-ery similar t" %ight Wing Christians in Ameri2a )h" )ant t" nati"nali?e Christianity8 and )hi2h later )"uld be2"me the ."undati"n ". the <ati"nal 5"2ialist (erman W"rkers 7arty "r <5JA7 6)here the term 4<a?i4 deri-ed8: 5"2ialism is a &uesti"n ". attitude t")ard li.e+ ". the ethi2al "utl""k "n li.e ". all )h" li-e t"gether in a 2"mm"n ethni2 "r nati"nal s*a2e. 5"2ialism is a Weltans2hauung> @ut in a2tual .a2t there is n"thing ne) ab"ut this Weltans2hauung. Whene-er , read the <e) Testament ("s*els and the re-elati"ns ". -ari"us ". the *r"*hets and imagine mysel. ba2k in the era ". the %"man and late Hellenisti2+ as )ell as the Oriental )"rld+ , am ast"nished at all that has been made ". the tea2hings ". these di-inely ins*ired men+ es*e2ially Jesus Christ+ )hi2h are s" 2lear and uni&ue+ heightened t" religi"sity. They )ere the "nes )h" 2reated this ne) )"rld-ie) )hi2h )e n") 2all s"2ialism+ they established it+ they taught it and they li-ed it> @ut the 2"mmunities that 2alled themsel-es Christian 2hur2hes did n"t understand it> Or i. they did+ they denied Christ and betrayed him> 9"r they trans."rmed the h"ly idea ". Christian s"2ialism int" its "**"site> They killed it+ Gust as+ at the time+ the Je)s nailed Jesus t" the 2r"ssE they buried it+ Gust as the b"dy ". Christ )as buried. @ut they all")ed Christ t" be resurre2ted+ instigating the belie. that his tea2hings t""+ )ere reb"rn> ,t is in this that the m"nstr"us 2rime ". these enemies ". Christian s"2ialism lies> What the basest hy*"2risy they 2arry be."re them the 2r"ss// the instrument ". that murder )hi2h+ in their th"ughts+ they 2"mmit "-er and "-er// as a ne) di-ine sign ". Christian a)areness+ and all") mankind t" kneel t" it. They e-en *retend t" be *rea2hing the tea2hings ". Christ. @ut their li-es and deeds are a 2"nstant bl") against these tea2hings and their Creat"r and a de.amati"n ". ("d> We are the .irst t" e3hume these tea2hings> Thr"ugh us al"ne+ and n"t until n")+ d" these tea2hings 2elebrate their resurre2ti"n> 0ary and 0agdalene st""d at the em*ty t"mb. 9"r they )ere seeking the dead man> @ut )e intend t" raise the treasures ". the li-ing Christ> Herein lies the essential element ". "ur missi"n: )e must bring ba2k t" the (erman H"lk the re2"gniti"n ". th"se tea2hings> 9"r )hat did the .alsi.i2ati"n ". the "riginal 2"n2e*t ". Christian l"-e+ ". the 2"mmunity ". .ate be."re ("d and ". s"2ialism lead t"F @y their .ruits ye shall kn") them> The su**ressi"n ". .reed"m ". "*ini"n+ the *erse2uti"n ". the true Christians+ the -ile mass murders ". the ,n&uisiti"n and the burning ". )it2hes+ the armed 2am*aigns against the *e"*le ". .ree and true Christian .aith+ the destru2ti"n ". t")ns and -illages+ the hauling a)ay ". their 2attle and their g""ds+ the destru2ti"n ". their .l"urishing e2"n"mies+ and the 2"ndemnati"n ". their leaders be."re tribunals+ )hi2h+ in their unrelenting hy*"2risy+ 2an "nly be des2ribed as bala*hem"us. That is the true .a2e ".

th"se san2tim"ni"us 2hur2hes that ha-e *la2ed themsel-es bet)een ("d and man+ m"ti-ated by sel.ishness+ *ers"nal greed ."r re2"gniti"n and gain+ and the ambiti"n t" maintain their high/handed )ill.ulness against Christ's dee* understanding ". the ne2essity ". a s"2ialist 2"mmunity ". men and nati"ns. We must turn all the sentiments ". the H"lk+ all its thinking+ a2ting+ e-en its belie.s+ a)ay .r"m the anti/Christian+ smug indi-idualism ". the *ast+ .r"m the eg"tism and stu*id 7hariseeism ". *ers"nal arr"gan2e+ and )e must edu2ate the y"uth in *arti2ular in the s*irit ". th"se ". Christ's )"rds that )e must inter*ret ane): l"-e "ne an"therE be 2"nsiderate ". y"ur .ell") manE remember that ea2h "ne ". y"u is n"t al"ne a 2reature ". ("d+ but that y"u are all br"thers> This y"uth )ill+ )it l"athing and 2"ntem*t+ aband"n th"se hy*"2rites )h" ha-e Christ "n their li*s but the de-il in their hearts+ )h" gi-e alms in "rder t" remain undisturbed as they themsel-es thr") their m"ney ar"und+ )h" in-"ke the 9atherland as they .ill their ")n *urses by the t"il ". "thers+ )h" *rea2h *ea2e and in2ite t" )ar.... and "n it g"es. / Hitler in Memoirs of a Confinant+ *.1#$/1:! ,n the se2"nd inter-ie) .r"m Hitler's se2ret 2"n-ersati"ns+ Hitler re-eals: We d" n"t Gudge merely by artisti2 "r military standards "r e-en by *urely s2ienti.i2 "nes. We Gudge by the s*iritual energy )hi2h a *e"*le is 2a*able ". *utting ."rth+ )hi2h )ill enable it in ten years t" re2a*ture )hat is has l"st in a th"usand years ". )ar.are. , intend t" set u* a th"usand/year %ei2h and any"ne )h" su**"rts me in this battle is a .ell")/.ighter ."r a uni&ue s*iritual// , )"uld say di-ine// 2reati"n.... %ud"l. Hess+ my assistant ". many years standing+ )"uld tell y"u: ,. )e ha-e su2h a leader+ ("d is )ith us. /Hitler+ in Secret Conversations With itler+ *. B8 On the C"n2"rdat bet)een (ermany and the Hati2an+ Hitler remarked: We d" n"t ."rget the in.luen2e ". the 2hur2hes. There )ill de.initely be n" Hati2an 2rusade against us. We kn") 0"nsign"r 7a2elli sin2e he )as the Hati2an's di*l"mati2 re*resentati-e in (ermany ."r t)el-e yearsE as 5e2retary ". 5tate and ad-iser t" 7"*e N, it is greatly in his interest that the (erman Cath"li2s sh"uld at last ha-e a statuteCC"n2"rdatD. /Hitler+ in Secret Conversations With itler+ *. M$ %arely d" y"u see a*"l"gists against Hitler's Christianity &u"ting .r"m these mem"irs and se2ret 2"n-ersati"ns+ yet they )ant us t" buy "nly "ut/"./2"nte3t &u"tes .r"m the Table/Talk. There are many m"re religi"us &u"tes .r"m these "ther s"ur2es+ t"" numer"us t" 2ite here. , "nly gi-e these e3am*les t" sh") that Hitler's Christian th"ughts are e3*ressed e-en m"re -i-idly in these e3trane"us s"ur2es. ,. , had relied "nly "n these s"ur2es+ the 2lari"n 2ry ". foul )"uld rise .r"m the ire ". Christian a*"l"gists+ yet their "nly rebuttal 2"mes .r"m the e-en m"re dubi"us 2"*y ". the Table Talk edited by @"rmann.

(en"ud .abri2ated the anti/Christian &u"tes At the time ". the .irst *ubli2ati"n ". the table/talk translati"ns+ Tre-"r/%"*er+ Camer"n and %. H. 5te-ens+ *r"bably did n"t kn") ab"ut (en"ud's .ake &u"tes. H")e-er+ later *ubli2ati"ns d" n"t e32use the err"rs+ and that makes them dish"nest at the -ery least.

As stated be."re+ there are t)" -ersi"ns the "riginal (erman table/talk. One edited by 0artin @"rmann 2alled the @"rmann Hermerke 64@"rmann <"tes48 )hi2h+ until 1$8!+ e3isted "nly in the 2"lle2ti"n ". 9ran2"is (en"ud. The "ther -ersi"n 2ame .r"m 7i2ker )h" g"t is 2"*y .r"m Heim and then added his ")n entries. A22"rding t" %i2hard C. Carrier+ 4the @"rmann Hermerke als" 2"ntains entries made by @"rmann+ and *resumably Heim+ during the *eri"d 2"-ered by 7i2ker's te3t+ )hi2h are ine3*li2ably n"t ."und in his 2"*y. There is als" su**"sed t" be a third 2"*y+ )hi2h @"rmann ."r)arded t" an "..i2e in 0Oni2h+ but it )as l"st 6m"st likely destr"yed by Allied b"mbs8.4 7i2ker's editi"n has the str"ngest 2laim t" authenti2ity be2ause it 2"ntains the a2tual (erman+ has the su**"rt ". eye)itness testim"ny and has s2h"larly ba2king. <e3t in auth"rity is the s2h"larly )"rk ". Werner J"2hmann )h" *ublished the (erman ". the @"rmann Hermerke in 1$8! 6)hi2h Tre-"r/%"*er+ et al+ used .r"m (en"ud's 9ren2h translati"n8. The (erman -ersi"ns ". the talk d" n"t in2lude the anti/ Christian &u"tes. The ;nglish -ersi"n end"rsed by Tre-"r/%"*er 6and e-ery"ne else8 2"ntains the .abri2ati"ns. These lies 2"me+ -erbatim+ .r"m the translati"n ". (en"ud's 9ren2h> ,n a related .akery+ the alleged d"2ument ". Hitler's Iast Testament 6su**"sedly a *art ". the table/ talk8+ (en"ud ga-e Ja-id ,r-ing+ a W"rld War ,, hist"rian+ a 2"*y ". the 2"m*lete ty*es2ri*t manus2ri*t. ;-ery *age )as 4hea-ily amended and e3*anded in s"meb"dy's hand/)riting.4 (en"ud admitted it )as his ")n+ and later admitted t" ,r-ing that the entire ty*es2ri*t )as his ")n 2"n.e2ti"n saying+ 4@ut it is Gust )hat Hitler )"uld ha-e said+ isn't itF4 ,n "ther )"rds+ Hitler's Iast Testament )as a .ake.

Hitler$ the "hristian Thr"ugh"ut his's li.e+ Hitler sh")ed a remarkable tenden2y t")ard 2"nser-ati-e .aith in ("d+ and sa) himsel. as a re."rmer and a sa-i"r ". the (erman *e"*le+ and he a2ted a22"rding t" his belie.s. He 2alled himsel. a Christian and s*"ke in admirable terms ab"ut Jesus. At n" time did Hitler den"un2e his ")n Christianity+ and in .a2t+ a**ealed t" Christ as a .ighter+ Gust as he sa) himsel. as a .ighter. He )as ba*ti?ed+ he t""k the sa2raments and re2ei-ed C"mmuni"n. Was he a de-"ut 2hur2h g"erF <". Jid he a**eal t" *rayer.ul *riestsF <". @ut a**eals t" *hysi2al *la2es "r the Chur2h hierar2hy are n"t )hat 2"nstitutes Christianity. Christianity d"es n"t e3ist 4"ut there'. ,t "nly e3ists in the minds ". 2ertain *e"*le )h" *r".ess a belie. in ("d and Christ. That's )hy )e 2an "nly a**eal t" the direct !ords .r"m an indi-idual t" determine their belie.+ and Hitler e3*ressed his belie. )ith brutal h"nesty. Th"se )h" -ie against Hitler's Christianity 2"n-eniently dismiss his ")n dire2t )"rds )here he made a**eals t" ("d+ Christ+ and '*"siti-e' Christianity. They .ail t" distinguish Hitler's Christianity as a belie./system -ersus 42"rru*t'' "rgani?ed Christianity. ,t )as the latter that Hitler &uesti"ned+ n"t his ")n *ers"nal belie.s. ;-en m"re re-ealing: )hy d" Christians rely "n indire2t a22"unts+ and "nly "n th"se )hi2h seem t" *ut Hitler in an anti/Christian m"deF 9"r e3am*les ". Hitler's ")n -ie)s "n religi"n and ("d+ see: Hitler's s*ee2hes P Hitler's religi"us belie.s and .anati2ism. His arguments t")ard the Christian religi"n regarded his str"ng re."rmati"n -ie)s ". the Chur2h as he sa) it+ regardless ". h") s"me Christians t"day dislike it. ,ndeed+ he sa) himsel. as a re."rmer similar t" that ". the alleged Jesus and 0artin Iuther+ the 7r"testant re."rmer )h" als" had str"ng )"rds t" say against the Cath"li2 "rth"d"3y. %e."rmati"ns al)ays u*sets the tem*er ". the traditi"nal belie-er. Anti/religi"us -ie)s by themsel-es sim*ly 2ann"t be used as an argument against "ne's *ers"nal belie.s as a Christian+ and gi-es "ne ". the many reas"ns )hy Hitler's Table/Talk+ e-en i. -alid+ 2ann"t ser-e as

e-iden2e against Hitler's Christianity but+ ir"ni2ally+ a2tually su**"rts his *ers"nal belie.s as a Christian. 9"r a 2"m*aris"n ". Hitler t" ("d+ Jesus+ and "ther Christians+ 2li2k here.

%ources& Cali2+ ;d"uard+ ;d.+ 45e2ret C"n-ersati"ns With Hitler+4 The J"hn Jay C"m*any Carrier+ %i2hard C. 4On the Trail ". @"gus Qu"tes4 Helmrei2h+ ;rnst Christian+ 4The (erman Chur2hes Knder Hitler+4 Wayne 5tate Kni-ersity 7ress+ 1$M$ 5*eer+ Albert+ 4,nside the Third %ei2h: 0em"irs by Albert 5*eer+4 (alahad @""ks+ 1$M! T"land+ J"hn+ 4Ad"l. Hitler+4 An2h"r @""ks+ J"ubleday+ 1$MB Tre-"r/%"*er+ H.%. C,ntr"du2ti"nD+ 4Hitler's Table Talk 1$:1/::: His 7ri-ate C"n-ersati"ns+ %ed)""d 7ress+ Itd.+ 1$A# Turner+ Jr.+ Henry Ashby+ 4Hitler// 0em"irs ". a C"n.idant+4 Lale Kni-ersity 7ress+ 1$M8 H"nIang+ J"2hen+ 4The 5e2retary 0artin @"rmann: The 0an Wh" 0ani*ulated Hitler+4 %and"m H"use+ 1$M$ <"te: All ". the ab"-e s"ur2es deri-es .r"m hardba2k editi"ns.

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