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2 1 2 3 4 5 0%IQGUG_03865094 (CONFERENCE CALL INITIATED) OPERATOR: PMT, this is a recorded line. Terry Kraus
Yes,
hi, this is
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OPERATOR:
Okay. And we'd like to speak with this the Protective Measures
Yes,
it
TERRY KRAUS:
Okay,
happen to be on that teleconference about an hour ago with Gerry Garino, Steve Aoki
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OPERATOR:
Yes,
full-time but I know a few people that were. TERRY KRAUS: OPERATOR: Okay.
you looking for? TERRY KRAUS: Well we are working with NARAC
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we have a list
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TERRYKRAUS:
I don't want to impugn anyone but we're kind of questioning if that's the right 16. OPERATOR: Oh, I see. Okay, so you probably
want to speak with Michelle Hart since she's involved with those counts.
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Okay,
HART:
Michelle
TERRY KRAUS:
Hi,
Michelle,
this is
Terry
I'm a CM Home Team Assessment Scientist. MICHELLE HART: TERRY KRAUS: Okay. And we just want to, I just
got done talking with NARAC, all the concerns that (b)(6) . recent teleconference lined up. MICHELLE HART:
we had with,
Uh-huh.
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is planning on modeling the super core source term. least for one of these runs.
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of radionuclides which they got from the NRC. 7 8 9 10 11 12 1 14 15 1 17 18 1 20 21 22 2 24 25 Praseodymium. MICHELLE HART: Uh-huh. case when it's etcetera. MICHELLE HART: whole source term though, TERRY KRAUS: Right, right. right? Right. Is are wondering how that list far as dose producing be maybe better
radionuclides
radionuclides
especially some of the noble gases. MICHELLE HART: TERRY KRAUS: Right. Mainly in the, like in the
MICHELLE HART:
isotope you're looking at that you think would be more appropriate then one that's in TERRY KRAUS: that list? I'm thinking like
Well
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I said that. MICHELLE HART: TERRY KRAUS: MICHELLE HART: Right. Americium-141. Yes, at the time that the
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more concerned about the ingestion pathways for those particular purposes, maybe more important. TERRY KRAUS: Yes. Have you ever gone down there maybe a different list that
that road to look at those? MICHELLE HART: No, we have not. I think,
Iodine's and Cesium's that we are more concerned about for the short term releases. So we don't have like a
standard set of isotopes that we setup for the long term. TERRY understand. KRAUS: Yes, because, okay, so I
was generated
primarily with the in-plume dose. MICHELLE HART: TERRY KRAUS: Right. So I think our current task So I think --
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6 1 2 MICHELLE HART: TERRY KRAUS: bit different list. 4 5 Right. So I think we need a little
can encapture some of those other radio and nuclides. MICHELLE HART: Right. Because I'm just afraid that
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TERRY KRAUS: --
No.
we're going to try and do
So we will try and expand the list MICHELLE HART: TERRY KRAUS: Okay. I don't know,
some.
you know,
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Sure.
bysomethingthatpicksupsomeofthoseotherradionuclides that deliver dose once it's MICHELLEHART: on the ground. Sure. And were you planning with
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that you can send things to and you can also call into the headquarters and ask for us TERRY KRAUS:
MICHELLE HART:
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Okay.
-if you have a discussion.
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I can give you the email account? TERRY KRAUS: MICHELLE HART:
tango, 12 --
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Okay.
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hotel, Oscar,
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we'll get back with you as soon as we have something. MICHELLE HART: TERRY KRAUS: MICHELLE HART: TERRY KRAUS: MICHELLE HART: Okay. Okay, thanks.
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Yes,
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You did?
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to account for some of the dose that's produced after the materials on the ground. I sent her an email, NARAC in their mix, so we
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10 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 CM Home Team. MICHELLE HART: TERRY KRAUS: Yes. for a second. added four that we believe are the next most significant dose producers. OPERATOR: Okay, all right, she's right here
Hold on for a minute. MICHELLE HART: TERRY KRAUS: This is Hi, Michelle Hart. Terry Krauss,
Michelle,
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TERRY KRAUS: --
Okay.
to have a reasonable run
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we believe that we found the next four top dose producing radionuclides, we added them to the 16. Okay.
I'd like you to just look at that and if us a thumbs up or down. MICHELLE HART: TERRY original 16, KRAUS: Okay. We didn't
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11 1 2 stuff for the inhalation, that you need still? BRIAN HUNT: 4 5 6 7 8 I think it will give us enough I mean the ingestion stuff
to track enough different things that we can take ratios off of an aged full mix and be able to -MICHELLE HART:
BRIAN HUNT: --
Okay.
different stuff.
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to do the whole mix --
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MICHELLE HART:
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Right.
it's not a possibility.
So at least adding these other four we're looking at dose producers that's on the ground in addition to those in the air. MICHELLE HART: Okay. Is it okay if I send thumb
you an email back to let you know if down? TERRY KRAUS: MICHELLE HART:
thumbs up,
Okay.
And if
you just call us at this number we rather then I might not see the email
MICHELLE HART:
Okay,
what is
your number
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for some reason I didn't get the email or something. TERRY KRAUS: MICHELLE HART: thank you very much, I'll Yes, okay, good point. All right, well
All right.
shoot you an email back and if give you a call. TERRY KRAUS:
Okay,
appreciate it.
Thank
MICHELLE HART:
Thank you.
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