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Deputy X5, WCSO - Deposition Transcript (Federal) - Redacted
The point of this one is that he confirms my characterization of SECTOR training and a few other smaller points.
There are many things that I could point to that should indicate to the reasonable person what's really being inferred here, but this deputy is also young and naive so I don't hold anything against him personally. I was young and naive once myself.
If he's unaware, he's unaware and there's no crime in that, but I'll leave it to the reader to decide for themselves whether that's something of a concern regarding your local law enforcement or not. I sure would be, but that's me.
I'll skip the slimy defense lawyering for now. There's only so many things that can be said of someone that has to resort to such tactics, but again, I think also that it's fairly obvious to the reasonable person that it's a strong indication of an absence of any other evidence.
If you don't have a case and you know it, ad hominem attacks such as these are the last vestige of the corrupt.
Deputy X5, WCSO - Deposition Transcript (Federal) - Redacted
The point of this one is that he confirms my characterization of SECTOR training and a few other smaller points.
There are many things that I could point to that should indicate to the reasonable person what's really being inferred here, but this deputy is also young and naive so I don't hold anything against him personally. I was young and naive once myself.
If he's unaware, he's unaware and there's no crime in that, but I'll leave it to the reader to decide for themselves whether that's something of a concern regarding your local law enforcement or not. I sure would be, but that's me.
I'll skip the slimy defense lawyering for now. There's only so many things that can be said of someone that has to resort to such tactics, but again, I think also that it's fairly obvious to the reasonable person that it's a strong indication of an absence of any other evidence.
If you don't have a case and you know it, ad hominem attacks such as these are the last vestige of the corrupt.
Deputy X5, WCSO - Deposition Transcript (Federal) - Redacted
The point of this one is that he confirms my characterization of SECTOR training and a few other smaller points.
There are many things that I could point to that should indicate to the reasonable person what's really being inferred here, but this deputy is also young and naive so I don't hold anything against him personally. I was young and naive once myself.
If he's unaware, he's unaware and there's no crime in that, but I'll leave it to the reader to decide for themselves whether that's something of a concern regarding your local law enforcement or not. I sure would be, but that's me.
I'll skip the slimy defense lawyering for now. There's only so many things that can be said of someone that has to resort to such tactics, but again, I think also that it's fairly obvious to the reasonable person that it's a strong indication of an absence of any other evidence.
If you don't have a case and you know it, ad hominem attacks such as these are the last vestige of the corrupt.
3206 Wetmore Avenue, Suite 12 - Everett, Washington 98201 BMA Court Reporters, (425) 252.7277 1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 UNI TED STATES OF DI STRI CT COURT 8 WESTERN DI STRI CT OF WASHI NGTON AT SEATTLE 9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 10 PAUL MURPHY, t oget her wi t h hi s ) mar i t al communi t y, ) 11 Pl ai nt i f f s, ) ) 12 vs. ) NO. 2: 13- CV- 00727 ) 13 WHATCOM COUNTY, WASHI NGTON, a ) gover nment ent i t y; WHATCOM COUNTY ) 14 SHERI FF' S DEPARTMENT; WI LLI AM J . ) ELFO, t oget her wi t h hi s mar i t al ) 15 communi t y, ) Def endant s. ) 16 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 17 DEPOSI TI ON UPON ORAL EXAMI NATI ON OF 18 J AYSON LOREEN 19 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 20 2: 05PM - 2: 20PM Mar ch 11t h, 2014 21 What comCount y Cour t house 311 Gr and Avenue 22 Bel l i ngham, Washi ngt on 98225 23 Repor t ed by Kr i st en M. Uhl i g 24 Cer t i f i ed Cour t Repor t er , CCR, CSR Washi ngt on CCR #1934 25 J ayson Loreen, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County 3206 Wetmore Avenue, Suite 12 - Everett, Washington 98201 BMA Court Reporters, (425) 252.7277 2 1 A P P E A R A N C E S 2 3 FOR THE PLAI NTI FFS: Rober t But l er & Emi l y Beschen 4 Law Of f i ces of Rober t But l er 103 East Hol l y St r eet Sui t e 512 5 Bel l i ngham, Washi ngt on 98225 360. 734. 3448 6 7 FOR THE DEFENDANTS WHATCOM COUNTY & SHERI FF' S DEPARTMENT & ELFO Dal e Kamer r er 8 Law Lyman Dani el Kamer r er Bogdanovi ch 2674 RWJ ohnson Bl vd SW 9 Tumwat er , Washi ngt on 98512 360. 754. 3480 10 11 FOR WHATCOM COUNTY: El i zabet h Gal l er y 12 What comCount y Pr osecut or ' s Of f i ce 311 Gr and Avenue 13 Bel l i ngham, Washi ngt on 98225 14 ALSO PRESENT: 15 Wi l l i amEl f o Tar a Adr i an- St avi k 16 17 I N D E X 18 EXAMI NATI ON: PAGE 19 BY MR. BUTLER. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 20 BY MR. KAMERRER. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10 21 BY MR. BUTLER. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 13 22 23 EXHI BI T DESCRI PTI ON PAGE 24 No Exhi bi t s Mar ked 25 J ayson Loreen, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County 3206 Wetmore Avenue, Suite 12 - Everett, Washington 98201 BMA Court Reporters, (425) 252.7277 3 1 J AYSON LOREEN, 2 havi ng been f i r st dul y swor n, was cal l ed as a wi t ness her ei n and 3 was exami ned and t est i f i ed as f ol l ows: 4 5 DI RECT EXAMI NATI ON 6 7 BY MR. BUTLER: 8 Q Coul d you pl ease st at e your name and spel l i t f or t he r ecor d? 9 A J ayson, J - A- Y- S- O- N, Lor een, L- O- R- E- E- N. 10 Q And ar e you empl oyed? 11 A I am. 12 Q Wher e ar e you empl oyed? 13 A What comCount y Sher i f f ' s Of f i ce. 14 Q How l ong have you been so empl oyed? 15 A I st ar t ed out i n t he j ai l i n 2006 and became a pat r ol of f i cer 16 i n J ul y of 2010. 17 Q Okay. I n your empl oyment , do you know Paul Mur phy? 18 A I do. 19 Q How do you know Paul Mur phy? 20 A I wor ked wi t h hi mon pat r ol . 21 Q Okay. I n t he t i me t hat you have wor ked f or t he count y i n bot h, 22 I guess, t he j ai l and - - because i t ' s t he same depar t ment s, 23 i t ' s j ust di f f er ent di vi si ons; cor r ect ? 24 A Yup. 25 Q Have you hear d peopl e t al k about Paul ' s pol i t i cal and r el i gi ous J ayson Loreen, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County 3206 Wetmore Avenue, Suite 12 - Everett, Washington 98201 BMA Court Reporters, (425) 252.7277 4 1 bel i ef s? 2 A I have. 3 Q Okay. And who have you hear d t hat f r om? 4 A I r emember Ser geant Kl ei n. He was - - t hat ' s pr obabl y t he onl y 5 one t hat I r emember t al ki ng about i t . 6 Q What do you r ecal l hear i ng f r omSer geant Kl ei n? 7 A They wer e j ust ki nd of - - when Obama got el ect ed. 8 Q Okay. I n t he 2011 el ect i on, wer e you awar e of who Paul Mur phy 9 was suppor t i ng f or sher i f f ? 10 A I don' t r emember who he was suppor t i ng. 11 Q Wer e you awar e t hat he was not suppor t i ng Sher i f f El f o? 12 A I was awar e of t hat . 13 Q How wer e you awar e of t hat ? 14 A Pol i t i cal - - I guess t hat he had a Facebook page. 15 Q Di d you ever vi ew t he Facebook page? 16 A I di d. 17 Q Do you r ecal l t he name of t he Facebook page t hat was associ at ed 18 wi t h Paul i n r el at i onshi p t o t he el ect i on? 19 A I t hought t hat i t was j ust hi s Facebook page, hi s per sonal 20 Facebook page. 21 Q Do you r ecal l a Facebook page bei ng, Un- El ect Bi l l El f o, or 22 Boot Bi l l El f o? 23 A I hear d about t hat . 24 Q Who di d you hear about t hat f r om? 25 A I bel i eve t hat I mi ght have hear d i t f r omBen Wood. J ayson Loreen, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County 3206 Wetmore Avenue, Suite 12 - Everett, Washington 98201 BMA Court Reporters, (425) 252.7277 5 1 Q On Febr uar y 7t h, 2012, do you r ecal l at t endi ng a SECTOR 2 t r ai ni ng cl ass? 3 A I do. 4 Q You wer e act ual l y i nt er vi ewed i n Mar ch about your exper i ence at 5 t he SECTOR cl ass? 6 A Yeah. 7 Q Do you r emember t hat wi t h Ser geant Cool ey? 8 A Yup. 9 Q Bet ween t he t i me of t he SECTOR cl ass and t he i nt er vi ew wi t h 10 Ser geant Cool ey, di d you have any ot her di scussi ons wi t h anyone 11 about what happened i n t he SECTOR cl ass? 12 A No. 13 Q So when you wer e cont act ed by Ser geant Cool ey, had you had any 14 cont act wi t h anybody about t he SECTOR cl ass bef or e t hat 15 cont act ? 16 A No. 17 Q I n t he SECTOR cl ass - - do you r ecal l i n t al ki ng wi t h I nspect or 18 Cool ey t hat i t was r ecor ded? 19 A Yes. 20 Q Okay. Have you had an oppor t uni t y t o r evi ew t he t r anscr i pt of 21 t hat ? 22 A I have not . 23 Q Di d you do anyt hi ng i n pr epar at i on f or t oday' s deposi t i on? 24 A I spoke wi t h t he pr osecut or Gal l er y. 25 Q What di d you t al k about wi t h her ? J ayson Loreen, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County 3206 Wetmore Avenue, Suite 12 - Everett, Washington 98201 BMA Court Reporters, (425) 252.7277 6 1 A I j ust t ol d her t hat I was i n t he cl ass. I don' t r emember what 2 was t al ked about and t hat was about i t . 3 Q How l ong was your meet i ng wi t h Li z? 4 A Ten mi nut es, i f t hat , over t he phone. 5 Q You wer en' t pr ovi ded your t r anscr i pt t o r evi ew? 6 A I di dn' t ask f or i t . 7 Q Okay. I n your t r anscr i pt , you r ecal l or r ecount - - I guess 8 woul d be t he bet t er way of sayi ng i t - - Paul bei ng hesi t ant t o 9 gi ve hi s l apt op t o J ohn Dal quest , t he I T guy. Do you r ecal l 10 t hat ? 11 A Yeah. 12 Q Okay. Can you descr i be t he set t i ng, i f you wi l l , of t he r oom? 13 Wher e was t he t r ai ni ng? 14 A So i t was downst ai r s i n t he basement t r ai ni ng r oom, t her e' s a 15 bunch of comput er s. I was on t he l ef t si de of t he r oomwi t h, 16 si t t i ng next t o Kei t h Li nder man, and Paul Mur phy was si t t i ng 17 next t o ot her peopl e on t he opposi t e of t he r oom. 18 Q Di d you get t o t he r oombef or e or af t er Paul ? 19 A I don' t r emember . I don' t r ecal l when I got t o t he r oom. 20 Q Okay. Do you r emember - - so t he cor ol l ar y quest i on i s: Do you 21 r emember i f Paul was i n t he r oomwhen you got t her e? 22 A Paul was i n t he r oom- - dur i ng t he cl ass, he was i n t he r oom. 23 So when he got t her e, I don' t r emember i f i t was bef or e or 24 af t er me. But when t he cl ass st ar t ed, we wer e al l i n 25 at t endance. J ayson Loreen, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County 3206 Wetmore Avenue, Suite 12 - Everett, Washington 98201 BMA Court Reporters, (425) 252.7277 7 1 Q Okay. When t he cl ass st ar t ed, ever ybody' s l apt op had al r eady 2 been t ur ned over ? You wer e wor ki ng on di f f er ent comput er s at 3 t hat poi nt ; cor r ect ? 4 A Yes. Cor r ect . 5 Q Once t he cl ass st ar t ed and you wer e f ocused on SECTOR - - 6 A Mm- hm. 7 Q - - do you r ecal l Paul Mur phy sayi ng anyt hi ng about hi s comput er 8 or anyt hi ng dur i ng t he cl ass? 9 A I don' t r emember hi msayi ng anyt hi ng. I was al r eady - - I ' mnot 10 comput er l i t er at e. So I wasn' t r eal l y f ocused on what ot her 11 peopl e wer e t al ki ng about . I was t r yi ng t o f i gur e out t hi s new 12 pr ogr am. 13 Q Okay. 14 ( Emi l y Beschen Ent er s Conf er ence Room) 15 MR. BUTLER: Wal ki ng i n t he r oomi s Emi l y Beschen, 16 anot her at t or ney i n my of f i ce. 17 Q ( By Mr . But l er ) So descr i be f or me t he pr ocess, as you 18 r emember , you ar r i vi ng t o t he r oom. 19 A So we wer e t o gi ve our Toughbook or comput er t o J ohn Dal quest 20 so t hat he coul d add SECTOR, I guess, mat er i al or what ever you 21 want t o cal l i t , i nt o t he comput er . 22 Q Okay. So you got a not i ce some t i me bef or e t hat t hat sai d t hat 23 you have t o be at t hi s cl ass? 24 A Cor r ect . 25 Q On t he 7t h? J ayson Loreen, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County 3206 Wetmore Avenue, Suite 12 - Everett, Washington 98201 BMA Court Reporters, (425) 252.7277 8 1 A Yeah. 2 Q Do you r emember when you got t hat ? How f ar i n advance you knew 3 t hat you wer e goi ng? 4 A I don' t r ecal l when I got t hat not i ce. 5 Q Okay. Do you r ecal l t he not i ce sayi ng t hat you have got t o 6 br i ng your Toughbook? 7 A Mm- hm. Yeah. 8 Q I ' mnot t r yi ng t o put wor ds i n your mout h, but as I under st and 9 i t , you wal ked i nt o t he r oomconf i gur ed si mi l ar her e, i t has a 10 door ? 11 A Yup. 12 Q They t ook your Toughbook essent i al l y on your ar r i val ? 13 A I don' t r emember i f i t was on ar r i val or when t hey act ual l y 14 t ook i t . 15 Q Okay. 16 A We had numer ous br eaks so I don' t know i f i t was act ual l y, 17 okay, i t ' s your t ur n so t hat I can updat e i t . 18 Q Do you r ecal l havi ng your Toughbook when you wer e at t he ot her 19 comput er t er mi nal when you wer e doi ng your SECTOR t r ai ni ng? 20 A I t hi nk t hat - - af t er I got i t back, I had i t on t he f l oor next 21 t o me. 22 Q Okay. 23 A Because I r ecal l t hat I had j ust got t en i n t r oubl e f or havi ng 24 t he magnet st r i ps on t he t op, whi ch you ar e not t o have, and I 25 had j ust got an ear f ul f r omhi mand he handed me my Toughbook J ayson Loreen, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County 3206 Wetmore Avenue, Suite 12 - Everett, Washington 98201 BMA Court Reporters, (425) 252.7277 9 1 and t hat was i t . 2 Q An ear f ul f r omwho? 3 A J ohn Dal quest . 4 Q Because of t he magnet s? 5 A Yeah. I di d not know t hat t hey coul d wi pe out a har d dr i ve. 6 Q Okay. So j ust t o cl ar i f y, do you have - - as you si t her e now, 7 any r ecol l ect i on of Paul Mur phy sayi ng anyt hi ng about hi s har d 8 dr i ve i n t hat cl ass? 9 A I do not . 10 Q As you si t her e now, do you have a r ecol l ect i on of hi mnot 11 gi vi ng hi s l apt op t o J ohn Dal quest ? 12 A I don' t r emember hi msayi ng, I ' mnot goi ng t o gi ve i t t o you. 13 Q Okay. What was t he gener al t one of t he cl ass? Was i t - - 14 A For me? For ever ybody? 15 Q For ever ybody. Was i t f ai r l y l i ght , peopl e j oki ng ar ound or 16 was i t - - 17 A I t ' s possi bl e. I t ' s possi bl e t hat t hey wer e j oki ng ar ound. 18 I ' mnot one t hat i s out goi ng, so I ' mki nd of t o mysel f . I was 19 al r eady f r ust r at ed t hat I wasn' t get t i ng t hi s. So I di dn' t 20 r eal l y have t i me t o, I guess, t ur n my chai r and si t t her e and 21 pay at t ent i on t o what t hey wer e sayi ng. 22 Q Okay. Do you r ecal l anybody - - do you r ecal l any j oki ng at al l 23 as f ar as l i ke peopl e - - 24 A I coul d hear peopl e, l i ke, j ust ki nd of ha ha ha ki nd of st uf f 25 i n t he backgr ound, but I don' t know whose voi ce i t was. J ayson Loreen, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County 3206 Wetmore Avenue, Suite 12 - Everett, Washington 98201 BMA Court Reporters, (425) 252.7277 10 1 MR. BUTLER: I don' t have anyt hi ng el se. 2 3 EXAMI NATI ON OF J AYSON LOREEN BY MR. KAMERRER 4 5 BY MR. KAMERRER: 6 Q Had you wor ked on t he same shi f t wi t h Paul Mur phy? 7 A I have. 8 Q Okay. Had you hear d about hi s conspi r acy t heor i es and hi s 9 pol i t i cal vi ews f r omhi m? 10 A Mm- hm. 11 Q And t hat ' s a yes? 12 A Yes. 13 Q Okay. So di d you have di scussi ons about t hi ngs t hat he t hought 14 wer e conspi r aci es out t her e i n t he wor l d? 15 A I never had di scussi ons wi t h hi m. I ' ve hear d hi mdi scussi ng 16 wi t h peopl e. 17 Q Okay. What di d you t hi nk about t he sensi bi l i t y of t hose 18 opi ni ons? 19 A They' r e hi s opi ni ons, so I ki nd of wal ked away and l et t hem 20 di scuss what t hey wer e goi ng t o t al k about . 21 Q Why di d you wal k away? 22 A I di dn' t want t o hear i t . 23 Q You di dn' t want t o hear i t ? 24 A ( Wi t ness I ndi cat i ng) . 25 Q Di d you t hi nk t hat t hey wer e bi zar r e? J ayson Loreen, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County 3206 Wetmore Avenue, Suite 12 - Everett, Washington 98201 BMA Court Reporters, (425) 252.7277 11 1 A Sl i ght l y. 2 Q What wer e t he t hi ngs t hat you hear d Mur phy t al ki ng about bef or e 3 you wal ked away? 4 A Wel l , t hi s was when I was i n t he j ai l . But i t was, I guess, 5 t he communi st count r y, ki nd of l i ke t he Sovi et Uni on, t hat we 6 wer e goi ng t o end up l i ke. 7 Q That ' s what he was sayi ng about t he Uni t ed St at es? 8 A ( Wi t ness I ndi cat i ng) . 9 Q I s t hat a yes? 10 A Yes. 11 Q You hear d t hi s when you wer e st i l l wor ki ng i n t he j ai l ? 12 A Cor r ect . 13 Q So he woul d come t o t he j ai l ? 14 A He woul d - - as he was booki ng somebody, yeah. 15 Q Okay. For var i ous - - 16 A I t wasn' t t hat he woul d j ust r andoml y show up. He woul d book 17 somebody i n and t hen Ser geant Kl ei n woul d ki nd of j ust wal k up 18 and t hey woul d st ar t shop t al ki ng. He st ar t ed di scussi ng about 19 t he cur r ent pol i t i cs and who was goi ng t o get vot ed pr esi dent . 20 And I ' m, l i ke, I r eal l y don' t car e and he wal ked away. 21 Q So Ser geant Kl ei n woul d engage hi mi n conver sat i on about 22 pol i t i cs? 23 A Yeah. 24 Q And Mur phy woul d say what ? 25 A He woul d gi ve hi s opi ni on about i t . J ayson Loreen, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County 3206 Wetmore Avenue, Suite 12 - Everett, Washington 98201 BMA Court Reporters, (425) 252.7277 12 1 Q Okay. And hi s opi ni ons wer e t hat t he Uni t ed St at es was headed 2 t owar ds bei ng a communi st count r y? 3 A I don' t know i f i t was communi st , but i t was ki nd of t hat our 4 f r eedomwas goi ng t o get t aken away. 5 Q Okay. How about when you wer e act ual l y i n t he pat r ol di vi si on 6 and wor ki ng wi t h Mur phy? Di d you hear si mi l ar t hi ngs? 7 A No. 8 Q Okay. Di d you ever go t o Mur phy' s onl i ne post i ng pages, ei t her 9 Facebook or somet hi ng el se, and see what he was sayi ng? 10 A I t ' s been a whi l e si nce I have been t o - - 11 Q But you di d do t hat on some occasi ons? 12 A I di d. 13 Q What di d you see when you l ooked at t hose post i ngs? 14 A J ust he' s - - a l ot of post s of di f f er ent t hi ngs, di f f er ent 15 ar t i cl es. I j ust di dn' t have t i me t o r ead t hem. I was j ust 16 l ooki ng at t hem. 17 Q Di d you f or many opi ni ons about whet her t hose post i ngs wer e 18 bi zar r e or conspi r at or i al ? 19 A No. I di dn' t f or many opi ni on. 20 Q Okay. Di d you agr ee wi t h t he opi ni ons t hat wer e post ed by Mr . 21 Mur phy? 22 A I r eal l y di dn' t car e, so I di dn' t f or many opi ni on or agr ee 23 wi t h any of t hem. 24 MR. KAMERRER: Al l r i ght . That ' s al l of t he quest i ons 25 t hat I have. J ayson Loreen, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County 3206 Wetmore Avenue, Suite 12 - Everett, Washington 98201 BMA Court Reporters, (425) 252.7277 13 1 EXAMI NATI ON OF J AYSON LOREEN BY MR. BUTLER 2 3 BY MR. BUTLER: 4 Q J ust by way of br i ef f ol l ow- up. The whol e communi st st uf f and 5 Ser geant Kl ei n? 6 A I don' t know i f t hat was - - i f t hey wer e j ust j oki ng or what 7 t he deal was. 8 Q Ri ght . But what you wer e r ef er r i ng wi t h t hat , was t hat f ai r l y 9 si mi l ar t o t he t ea par t y r het or i c t hat we hear on Fox News and 10 st uf f l i ke t hat t oday? 11 A I don' t wat ch Fox News, so I don' t know i f i t ' s t he same as t he 12 t ea par t y. I don' t know. 13 Q Good f or you. 14 A Li ke, I ' mnot r eal l y much of a pol i t i cs ki nd of guy. 15 Q Okay. And Kl ei n was i nvol ved i n t hat di scussi on t oo? I t 16 wasn' t j ust Paul bei ng - - 17 A Oh yeah. I t was - - t hey wer e back and f or t h. 18 Q Di d you ever have any concer n based on what you per cei ved t o be 19 Paul ' s pol i t i cal or r el i gi ous bel i ef s af f ect i ng hi s j ob 20 per f or mance when you had j ob cont act wi t h hi m? 21 A No. 22 Q How about Ser geant Kl ei n? He had pol i t i cal vi ews. Di d you see 23 t hose pol i t i cal vi ews i mpact hi s j ob per f or mance? 24 A No. 25 MR. BUTLER: Not hi ng f ur t her . J ayson Loreen, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County 3206 Wetmore Avenue, Suite 12 - Everett, Washington 98201 BMA Court Reporters, (425) 252.7277 14 1 MR. KAMERRER: I have not hi ng f ur t her . Thank you. 2 ( Si gnat ur e Reser ved) 3 ( Deposi t i on Adj our ned) 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 J ayson Loreen, March 11, 2014 Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County 3206 Wetmore Avenue, Suite 12 - Everett, Washington 98201 BMA Court Reporters, (425) 252.7277 15 1 C E R T I F I C A T E 2 STATE OF WASHI NGTON ) ) ss. 3 COUNTY OF I SLAND ) 4 I , Kr i st en M. Uhl i g, t he under si gned CCR i n and f or t he St at e of Washi ngt on, do her eby cer t i f y: 5 That t he annexed and f or egoi ng deposi t i on of t he wi t ness 6 named her ei n was t aken st enogr aphi cal l y bef or e me and t r anscr i bed by me; 7 I f ur t her cer t i f y t hat t he wi t ness exami ned, r ead, and si gned 8 t he deposi t i on af t er t he same was t r anscr i bed, unl ess i ndi cat ed i n t he r ecor d t hat t he par t i es and t he wi t ness wai ve t he si gnat ur e; 9 I f ur t her cer t i f y t hat al l of t he obj ect i ons made at t he t i me 10 of sai d exami nat i on t o my qual i f i cat i ons or t he manner of t aki ng t he deposi t i on, or t o t he conduct of any par t y, have been not ed by 11 me upon sai d deposi t i on; 12 I f ur t her cer t i f y t hat I amnot a r el at i ve or empl oyee or at t or ney or counsel of any of t he par t i es t o sai d act i on or 13 counsel , and t hat I amnot f i nanci al l y i nt er est ed i n t he sai d act i on or t he out come t her eof ; 14 I f ur t her cer t i f y t hat t he deposi t i on, as t r anscr i bed, i s a 15 f ul l , t r ue, and accur at e t r anscr i pt of t he t est i mony, i ncl udi ng al l quest i ons and answer s, and al l obj ect i ons, mot i ons and except i ons 16 of counsel made and t aken at t he t i me of t he f or egoi ng exami nat i on; 17 I f ur t her cer t i f y t hat I amseal i ng t he deposi t i on i n an envel ope wi t h t he t i t l e t o t he above cause t her eon and mar ked 18 " Deposi t i on Upon Or al Exami nat i on" of sai d wi t ness and pr ompt l y causi ng t he same t o be del i ver ed or f or war ded t o Counsel f or t he 19 Opposi ng Par t y; 20 I N WI TNESS THEREOF, I have her eunt o set my hand and af f i xed my of f i ci al seal t hi s ___ day of ____________, 2014. 21 22 __________________________ 23 Kr i st en M. Uhl i g, #1934 Cer t i f i ed Cour t Repor t er , 24 Resi di ng i n Cl i nt on, Washi ngt on. 25