How can I correctly use the following conjunctions concerning time expressions: as,
as long as and while? Also, would you be kind enough to give me some examples
of use of these two expressions: as a basis for and on the basis of?
as or while
We can use as or while to talk about two longer actions that are in progress at
the same time:
• There was a lot to do. While I cleaned the car, my wife was preparing lunch.
• She then did the ironing after lunch as I cleared away the dishes.
As a general rule, we tend to use while here rather than as because as has many
different meanings and uses. It could be confusing if as meaning while could be
mistaken for as meaning because:
as or when
We use as or when to talk about two short events that happen at the same
moment. As and when are often used with just in this context. We cannot use
while here:
• The telephone rang just when / just as I was about to leave. I decided not
to answer it.
However, if we want to say that when one thing changes another changes at the
same time, when one is the consequence of the other, we tend to use as:
while or when
In more formal speech and writing, it is possible to leave out subject + be with
when and while when main and subordinate clauses refer to the same subject. We
cannot use as in this way:
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• When making cranberry jam, remember to use as much sugar as fruit.
• When you are making cranberry jam, be sure to use as much sugar as fruit.
• While in France, he grew particularly fond of all varieties of cheese.
• While he was in France, he grew particularly fond of all types of cheese.
The as ... as construction is used when we are making comparisons and comparing
ideas of similar magnitude or duration
• There was extra time, so the football match lasted as long as the concert.
• He worked for as long as he wanted to on the project.
"Take as long as you like," they said. "There's no hurry!"
• As long as I live, I shall smoke no more cigarettes.
• I don't mind. You can leave early, as long as you finish the work.
• I don't mind. You can go home early, so long as you finish the work.
• I don't mind. You can leave after lunch, provided you finish all the work.
on a ... basis
The noun basis suggests a particular method or system for organising or doing
something. We have the expressions on a/an
hourly/daily/monthly/annual/temporary/permanent basis:
Here we have two further expressions with basis with a slightly different meaning.
Used with the preposition on, method or system is suggested. Used with the
preposition as, ideas, facts or actions from which something can develop is
suggested:
• The contract was awarded on the basis of cost more than anything else.
• These preliminary talks will be very useful as a basis for further negotiations.
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'as' and 'like'
Here is my question:- "I’ve worked as a dog" or "I’ve worked like a dog." What is
the difference between as and like?
As and like are used in a number of different ways and can be different parts of
speech.
The expression 'I've been working as a dog' sounds unusual because it suggests that
you were doing the work of a dog!
Like has the meaning 'similar to' and is used when comparing things. Look at these
examples:
The expression 'I've been working like a dog' is idiomatic and means that you have
been working very hard. Note that we can use adverbs of degree, such as just,
very, quite, not much, not at all, a bit, etc, to modify like:
• 'He’s very serious – not at all like his father, perhaps more like his mother
at times.
• 'I always drink tea without milk, just as they do on the continent.'
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• 'Try to keep your balance on the tightrope, as I do, by spreading out your
fingers like this.'
• 'The first ten days of July were very wet this year, as they were last year and
the year before.'
In informal English, like is used in the same way. This is particularly common in
American English. Consider the following:
as ... as and as
Hello! I hope you are in the best of health. Would you kindly tell me what parts of
speech as... as are. I know that we use adjectives or adverbs between them, but I
don not know what they are themselves. Kind regards.
This structure is used to measure and compare things that are of similar proportion.
In this construction, the first as functions as an adverb modifying the following
adjective or adverb. The second as functions as a preposition when it relates to
the following noun or pronoun. (It can also function as a conjunction when it
relates to the following clause.) Compare the following:
Note from the above example that if there is an adjective and a noun after the first
as, a / an must go between them. Note also that if we want to make a negative
statement, we can use so…as instead of as…as:
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• The cafeteria was not so / as crowded as it was earlier.
There are a large number of idiomatic expressions or fixed phrases which we use in
informal English when we are making comparisons like this. Here are a few of them
in context:
Remember that when we are measuring or comparing things that are of unequal
proportion, we need to use the structure comparative + than:
• Let me finish the report. I can type much faster than you (can).
• He played the piece of music more slowly than I had ever heard it played
before.
as as subordinating conjunction
We may use as as an alternative to when when we are comparing two short actions
or events that happened or happen at the same period of time. We often combine it
with just:
• As Mary was the eldest child, she had to look after her younger brothers and
sisters.
• As it had started to rain we had to abandon the picnic.
• I’ve decided to end our relationship because my boyfriend has been cheating
on me.
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Here, as means over the same period of time as:
• I think you become more tolerant of other people as you get older.
• As prices rose, the demand for higher salaries became more intense.
as as preposition
Finally, note that as can also be used as a preposition when we want to avoid using
the verb to be. Compare the following:
• As his father, it is your duty to ensure that he goes to school every day.
• As you are his father, it is your duty to ensure that he goes to school every
day.
• As a social historian, I am always interested in people’s life styles.
• Being a social historian, I am always interested in people’s life styles.
• He established his reputation as a freedom fighter through many heroic acts.
• The police described him as a dangerous criminal.
• The police considered him to be a dangerous criminal
Could you please explain the usage of the adjective unfair to us?
For example: I won't argue with you, but I think you are being unfair. Also, we'd
like to learn why being is placed in front of unfair. How is you're being unfair
different from you're unfair?
Really, this site has helped me a lot. The doubts which people are asking about are
really the doubts of a majority. I am doubtful about using being. So can you please
explain to me the different uses of being with different examples?
Can you please explain how being is used with the past participle?
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being + adjective
We normally use the progressive form with an adjective when we are talking about
actions and behaviour. And being unfair in your example sentence, Boon and
Nukoon, relates to somebody's behaviour of not being fair in their actions, so the
progressive form is preferred. Here are some further examples:
• You're being silly / foolish / childish when you do such silly / foolish /
childish things.
• I was walking on tiptoe and being very careful not to wake the baby.
However, when the adjectives relate to feelings, we do not use the progressive form:
• I was upset / worried when I heard that they would have to operate on
John's knee.
• I am delighted / overjoyed to hear that you have passed all your exams.
We use being with the past participle, Bhavin, in present progressive and past
progressive passive forms. So we might say:
• My car is being serviced. Instead of: The local garage is servicing my car.
Note that cruel in the above example is an adjective describing behaviour so the
progressive form is used with it.
Note that other passives with being, i.e the future progressive passive (will be
being) and perfect progressive passive (has been being) are quite rare.
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more characteristic of written English or a literary style, rather than spoken colloquial
English. Compare the following:
• Being quite slim, I was able to squeeze through the hole in the railings.
Instead of: Since I am quite slim I was able to squeeze through the hole in
the railings.
• Being rather over weight, Geoffrey was unable to squeeze through. Rather
than: Because he's rather over weight, Geoffrey was unable to squeeze
through.
• She was afraid of being accused of a crime which she did not commit.
Could you please tell me the difference (in use) between because, as, since and
for. I think it's very confusing.
The present perfect is often used with since and for to denote periods of time up to
the present. (Note that we do not use present perfect with expressions that refer to
a time period that has finished, i.e. 'last week' or 'the day before yesterday'. Here
the simple past is used: 'I went to the cinema three times last week.')
If you use since with the present perfect or present perfect continuous, you are
signalling when something started. If you use for, you are signalling how long
something has been going on. Compare:
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That is one use of since and for.
But since and for can also be used in a similar way to as and because to give the
reason for an action or a situation. However, there are important differences
between them.
Because is used when the reason is the most important part of the sentence or
utterance. The because clause usually comes at the end:
• 'I went to Spain last summer because I wanted the guarantee of sunshine on
every day of my holiday.'
As and since are used when the reason is already well known and is therefore
usually less important. The as or since clause is usually placed at the beginning of
the sentence:
• 'As the performance had already started, we went up to the balcony and
occupied some empty seats there.'
• 'Since John had already eaten, I made do with a sandwich.'
For suggests that the reason is given as an afterthought. It is never placed at the
beginning of the sentence and is more characteristic of written, rather than spoken
English:
• 'I decided to stop the work I was doing - for it was very late and I wanted to
go to bed.'
Here it means except (for) or apart from and we can substitute these prepositions
for but in this sentence. We could also use bar which has the same meaning:
• All but / bar / except for / apart from two of the boys are coming with us.
but as conjunction
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• They had very little money, but (they) always bought their children expensive
presents.
• They were poor, but (they were) hardworking.
• My car is fifteen years old, but (it) still drives beautifully.
• I've been to Hong Kong but (I've never been to Shanghai) not to Shanghai.
• I sometimes swim in the North Sea, but (I) only (ever swim there) in July
and August.
• I wanted to sign the contract there and then. But my husband insisted that
we should read the small print first.
• These earrings would look really good on your wife! ~ But I'm not married!
In the first five examples, repeated information from the first clause can often be left
out in the second clause.
But as preposition
We use but as an alternative to except (for), apart from and bar to introduce the
only thing or person that the main part of the sentence does not include. It is often
used after words such as everyone, nobody, anything, anywhere, all, no, none,
any, every.
• I'll go anywhere for my holiday but / bar / except (for) Blackpool. I really
hate it there.
• On holiday he eats nothing but / bar / apart from hamburgers and French
fries.
• She took everything on holiday with her but / bar / apart from the kitchen
sink.
• Everybody but / bar / the very young must carry their own belongings in a
rucksack.
• I've marked all the essays but / bar / except (for) / apart from two.
• Nobody but / except (for) / bar Jessica would wear a mini-dress at a formal
dinner
In a British court of law, a witness giving evidence is required to take the oath before
he gives his testimony. He is required to say the following:
• I swear by Almightly God to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but
the truth.
• I affirm that I will tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Note the useful expressions next but one, last but one.
• They live in the house next but one to Mary. (i.e. two houses away from
Mary)
• Is this the final candidate? ~ No, it's the last but one. (i.e. there are two
more people to be interviewed)
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but for
Note that but for as a preposition has a different meaning from but by itself. We
can sometimes use it as an alternative to an
if-clause with a third conditional negative sentence, indicating what might have
happened if other things had not happened. Compare the following:
• I would have been home in time for supper, if there had been no fog to
delay me.
• I would have been home in time for supper but for the fog.
• But for his broken leg in the earlier part of the season, he might have been
in the England team to play Poland last May.
• If he hadn't broken his leg in the earlier part in the season, he might have
been in the England team to play Poland last May.
Cleft sentences are used to help us focus on a particular part of the sentence and
to emphasise what we want to say by introducing it or building up to it with a kind of
relative clause.
Because there are two parts to the sentence it is called cleft (from the verb cleave)
which means divided into two.
Cleft sentences are particularly useful in writing where we cannot use intonation for
purposes of focus or emphasis, but they are also frequently used in speech.
Cleft structures include the reason why, the thing that, the person/people
who, the place where, the day when and what-clauses which are usually linked
to the clause that we want to focus on with is or was.
Compare the following sets of sentences and notice how the cleft structure in each
case enables us to select the information we want to focus on:
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• The thing that impresses me more than anything else is your generosity.
• The jewels are hidden under the floor at 23 Robin Hood Road, Epping.
• The place where the jewels are hidden is under the floor at 23 Robin Hood
Road, Epping.
• Under the floor at 23 Robin Hood Road is the place where the jewels are
hidden.
• I enjoyed the brilliant music most of all in the Ballet Frankfurt performance.
• What I enjoyed most in the Ballet Frankfurt performance was the brilliant
music.
• The brilliant music was what I enjoyed most in the Ballet Frankfurt
performance.
Note from the last two examples that cleft structures with what-clauses are often
used with verbs expressing an emotive response to something like adore, dislike,
enjoy, hate, like, loathe, love, need, prefer, want, etc.
Cleft structures with what-clauses are also often used with does/do/did and with
the verb happen when we want to give emphasis to the whole sentence, rather than
a particular clause.
• Their car broke down on the motorway so they didn't get to Jo's wedding on
time.
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• What happened was that their car broke down on the motorway so they
didn't get to Jo's wedding on time.
It is sometimes very effective to use all instead of what in a cleft structure if you
want to focus on one particular thing and nothing else:
Finally, we can also use preparatory it in cleft sentences and join the words that we
want to focus on to the relative clause with that, who or when.
In the example which follows, note how this construction enables us to focus on
different aspects of the information, which may be important at the time:
• My brother bought his new car from our next-door neighbour last Saturday.
• It was my brother who bought his new car from our neighbour last
Saturday.
• It was last Saturday when my brother bought his new car from our
neighbour.
• It was a new car that my brother bought from our neighbour last Saturday.
• It was our next-door neighbour that my brother bought his new car from
last Saturday.
Look out for cleft structures in your reading. They are a very common feature of
written English.
Conjunctions are joining words and their main function is to link together two
different parts of a sentence.
And, but and or are the three main coordinating conjunctions. They join two clauses
which are grammatically independent of each other and would make sense if they
stood alone. Compare the following:
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1. She's already had two holidays this year and now she wants another one.
She's already had two holidays this year. Now she wants another one.
3. You can sit at the front, or you can stand at the back. I don't mind.
You can sit at the front. You can stand at the back. I don't mind.
But note they way in which conjunctions help to add meaning to the
sentence. And indicates that we are listing items or ideas, or means that we
are discussing alternatives and but means that we are contrasting facts or
ideas.
Note also that in the second of the two coordinating clauses, the subject
words and modal auxiliaries can often be left out:
• She's already had two holidays this year and now wants another one.
• You can sit at the front or stand at the back. I don't mind.
• She was anxious and unhappy and didn't know where her husband was.
• She was anxious and unhappy because she didn't know where her
husband was.
(NOT: She was anxious and unhappy because didn't know where her husband
was.)
Words like if, when, because, since, although, etc, are subordinating conjunctions
which introduce subordinate clauses. Subordinate clauses are dependent on the main
clause in some way and do not normally stand alone.
Note the way in which subordinating conjunctions also give meaning to the sentence:
* if suggests a condition
* when / whenever indicate time
* while suggests time or contrast of surprising facts
* because points to reason
* since suggests reason or time
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* as suggests reason or time
* although / though / even though all indicate a contrast of surprising facts
Compare the following examples of use and note the way the same conjunction (e.g.
while, since, as) can be used for different purposes. Subordinating clauses of this
kind can normally go first or last in the sentence, depending on what you want to
emphasize:
• If you feel thirsty or hungry, help yourself to anything at all in the fridge
or freezer.
Help yourself to anything at all in the fridge or freezer, if you feel hungry or
thirsty.
• While they were away, I helped myself to an ice-cold beer and a pizza from
the freezer.
I helped myself to an ice-cold beer and a pizza from the freezer while they
were away.
• When I babysat for the Robinsons last month, I was given nothing to eat
or drink.
I was given nothing to eat or drink when I babysat for the Robinsons last
month.
• While I am fond of their children, I think the parents are very mean.
(BUT NOT: I think the parents are very mean while I am fond of their
children)
• Since I started working full-time, I don't have so much time now for
babysitting.
I don't have so much time now for babysitting since I started working full-
time.
• Because / since / as I work six days a week, I can't even find time to
see my friends.
I can't even find time to see my friends as I work six days a week.
• As I was leaving work the other day, I bumped into an old friend.
I bumped into an old friend as I was leaving work the other day.
• Although I am happy with my life, I think I should try and get out more.
I think I should try and get out more, even though I am happy with my
life.
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Due to and owing to are similar in meaning to on account of and because of.
They are all prepositions used with noun phrases and are often used
interchangeably. They indicate that something happened as a result of something or
introduce the reason for something happening:
• 'He was kept in after school due to/owing to his bad behaviour.' = He was
kept in after school on account of/because of his bad behaviour.
• 'Due to/owing to a broken propeller, the new cruise liner returned
immediately to port.' = 'The new cruise liner returned immediately to port
because of/on account of a broken propeller.'
It used to be thought that it was incorrect to use due to in this way, but modern
usage shows no hesitation in using these expressions interchangeably.
Note that these prepositions are sometimes used in cleft structures with it and the
verb to be:
• 'It is due to/on account of all his hard work over the winter months that he
has passed the exam with such a good grade.'
• 'It was owing to/because of traffic congestion on the road leading to the
airport that I missed my flight.'
The noun phrases which these prepositions introduce are often rather formal and it
may be more natural to use because in informal, conversational English. But
remember that because is a conjunction and must therefore be used to introduce a
subordinate clause of reason:
• 'We had to give up the idea of a boat trip because it started to pour with
rain.'
• 'Owing to the heavy rain, we had to give up the idea of a boat trip.'
In this final owing to example, there is a mismatch of formal and colloquial styles
and it does not sound quite right. In the following examples, however, the
prepositional phrase might be preferred as it is more succinct:
• 'Why are you so late?' 'On account of the traffic. Incredibly heavy!'
• 'Why are you so late?' 'Because the traffic was so incredibly heavy on the
road into London. '
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Could even though be substituted and used instead of even if?
No, they are not interchangeable. If you want to use even though, the meaning
changes.
Even though means despite the fact that and is a more emphatic version of
though and although.
Even if means whether or not and has to do with the conditions that may apply.
1. Even if I had two hours to spare for shopping, I wouldn't go out and buy a
suit.
2. Even though I had two hours to spare for shopping, I couldn't find the suit I
wanted.
The first example describes an unreal situation where we could substitute 'just
supposing' for even if and say: just supposing I had two hours to spare for
shopping, I still wouldn't go out and buy a suit.
The second example describes a real situation where the shopper spent two
hours looking for a particular kind of suit, but couldn't find it. When we attach even
to though in this way, we are in effect saying: you may find this surprising
but...!
• Even though he lost his job as Arts Minister, he continued to serve in the
government.
• Even if he loses his job as Arts Minister, I think he'll continue to serve in the
government.
• Even though the injury was serious, she decided to carry on playing. It was
an important match.
• I know she'll want to carry on playing, even if she gets injured. It's an
important match.
• Even though I've cleaned it and polished it, it still doesn't look new.
• Even if I clean and polish it, it still won't look new.
even
Note that even cannot be used as a conjunction like even if and even though
when it stands alone.
We cannot say:
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Even I've polished and cleaned it, it still doesn't look new.
When even stands alone, it functions as an adverb and means this is more than
or less than expected. Again, you are registering something that may be
surprising when you use it.
Study the following and note the position of even in these sentences:
• He works all through the year. Even at Christmas and New Year!
• I know his English isn't very good but even I can understand him!
even so
• I know her English isn't very good, but even so I can understand her.
• The evidence was only circumstantial. Even so, he was convicted and spent
ten years in prison for a crime that he perhaps did not commit.
We know it is correct to say: ‘I have never been to London’. But for someone who
has been to London before, is it correct to say: ‘I have ever been to London’?
No. Ever means at any time, so it is inappropriate in the above sentence. Ever is
used mainly in questions.
Although it is usually associated with the present perfect, it can also be used with a
present, past or past perfect verb form or with future reference.
If the answer is no, we often use never in the reply, meaning ‘not at any time’.
If the answer is yes, we might add once or twice, etc, to indicate how many times
we have done whatever is being referred to. Compare the following:
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• 'Have you ever been to Ireland?' 'Yes, I’ve been there twice, once in 1983 and
again in 1995.'
• 'Did you ever meet Tom Robinson when you were at uni?' 'No, I never did.'
• 'My driving instructor asked me if I’d ever driven before.' 'I said, no, I never
had.'
• 'Do you ever go to the cinema?' 'No, I prefer to watch films on video or DVD.'
• 'Are you ever going to finish this book?' 'I’ll try and finish it over the summer.
I’ve no time now.'
• 'Will you ever marry me?' 'No, Jason I don’t think I ever will.'
As you can see from this last example, ever can be used in an affirmative sentence
with not as an alternative to the more usual 'never'. It can also be used in
affirmative sentences with if and with adverbs which express a negative idea, like
hardly. Remember the meaning of ever is always ‘at any time’. Compare the
following:
• 'If you ever change your mind, let me know. We’d love to have you on the
team.'
• 'If you are ever in London, be sure to come and see us.'
• 'We hardly ever go to the theatre. It’s too expensive.'
• 'I don’t think we shall ever see Jenny again now that she’s emigrated to
Australia.'
Remember also that ever can be tagged on to ‘where’, ‘when’, ‘what’, ‘which’, ‘who’
and ‘how’ to make the conjunctions wherever, whenever, whatever, whichever,
whoever and however, meaning 'no matter where’, ‘no matter when’, ‘no matter
what’, ‘no matter which’, ‘no matter who’ and ‘no matter how’. Compare the
following:
• 'We were playing ‘Hide and Seek’ and we couldn’t find him wherever we
looked.'
• 'If you have a problem, you can phone me up whenever you like – at any
time of the day.'
• 'Whatever advice I gave her, she would be sure not to take it.'
• 'Whichever path we took, we were unable to find our way out of the maze.'
• 'I shall sell my computer to whoever wants it.'
• 'However hard I try, I can never seem to learn vocabulary.'
Finally, ever is used in the comparative expression as ever and than ever, meaning
‘as/than at any time in the past’. Study the following two examples:
• 'You’ll have to work harder than ever today, if you want to finish this job
before it gets dark.'
• 'Jayne, it’s so long since I heard you sing, but you sing as beautifully as
ever!'
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Gloria Fulvia from Italy writes:
Do I say Schools are for learning or Schools are to learn? I would like to know
the grammar of to + infinitive and for + -ing form when I'm talking about
purpose. I greatly appreciate your explanation. Thanks.
• I popped into the supermarket for some apples on the way home.
(Not: I popped into the supermarket for buying some apples…)
• I popped into his office to have a chat about our marketing policy.
• What's this for? ~ It's for opening oysters. It's much better than a knife.
• What's this fifty pound note for? ~ It's for buying food for the weekend.
Note that when the subject of the sentence is a person rather than the thing
described, the to + infinitive pattern is also possible:
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in order to / so as to
• I went to bed early in order to get enough sleep before the exam.
• After all those exams, I went to the seaside so as to have a good rest.
The in order to and so as to structures are particularly useful with stative verbs
such as be, have, know, appear, and before negative inifinitives:
• So as not to appear foolish, I learnt all I could about the company before
going for the interview.
• I'm going to move to the city centre in order to be near where I work.
• In order not to have to commute, she bought a flat in the town centre.
• In order to know more about him, she studied his movements carefully.
I have a very simple question, but nobody has been able to make it clear to me. I
know that the words however and nevertheless are slightly different in meaning
and use. I would much appreciate it if you could make the differences clear to me.
We can use either of the adverbs however or nevertheless to indicate that the
second point we wish to make contrasts with the first point. The difference is one of
formality: nevertheless is bit more formal and emphatic than however. Consider
the following:
• I can understand everything you say about wanting to share a flat with
Martha. However, I am totally against it.
• Rufus had been living in the village of Edmonton for over a decade.
Nevertheless, the villagers still considered him to be an outsider.
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Note that however and nevertheless are normally placed in initial position in a
sentence when contrasting two ideas. They can, however, also come in mid position
or end position:
• There will be no more pay increases this year. That is for sure. We have,
however, agreed to carry out a full review of pay and conditions. We have
agreed, nevertheless, to carry out a full review of pay and conditions.
Less formal equivalents of however and nevertheless would be even so, in spite
of this, yet or yet..still. These alternatives would be better suited to spoken English
discourse:
• She's really quite ill and has been for some time. Even so / In spite of this
she remains in good spirits.
• He has over a million pounds in his bank account. Yet he still gets up at six
every morning to go to work.
* in the first part you might outline an argument, introducing it perhaps with it is
often said;
* in the second part you might indicate that there is supporting evidence using it is
true or certainly to introduce these ideas;
* in the third part introduce the counter-argument with however or one of the other
discourse markers listed above.
• It is said that water pollution is one of the greatest evils in this country.
• It is true that more and more factories are being built along this stretch of
the river and that a certain amount of waste will inevitably be discharged into
the river.
• However, in all the discussions that I have had with these firms'
representatives, I have not found one who does not have a responsible
attitude to environmental protection.
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formal of these three. These adverbs should be used to support or to add information
to what has already been said:
• The refugees are desperately short of food. They have very little shelter to
protect them from the winter winds that are now blowing. Furthermore,
they are desperately in need of medical supplies.
• She had noticed that there was a man sitting in the second row of the stalls
to her right who was observing her, rather than watching the play.
Moreover, he seemed to be smiling at her as if he recognised her.
in conclusion
Finally, remember that if you are writing essays, it is useful to introduce the final
paragraph with one of these expressions: to conclude, in conclusion, to sum up:
In conclusion, it is clear that pollution will continue to plague our planet for the
foreseeable future. However, if individuals and governments act responsibly, there
may come a day in the not too distant future when a more optimistic outlook is
justified.
I would like you to talk about the difference between to + infinitive and in order to
+ infinitive.
(b) seems to be all right, though perhaps you do not say it.
You are right, Gyonggu. If we use in order to it sounds a bit more formal and
explicit than to by itself, but both are equally possible in both spoken and written
English.
They both convey exactly the same meaning when expressing purpose:
• To cut the tree down, I had to hack through the undergrowth first.
• In order to cut the tree down, I had to hack through the undergrowth first.
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In order to is normal before a negative infinitive. We do not usually use to by itself
here:
We can also use so as to instead of in order to and it carries the same degree of
explicitness or formality:
Before stative verbs like know, seem, appear, understand, have, etc, it is more
usual to use in order to or so as to:
These structures are also frequently used to talk about purpose, although so that is
more common and less formal than in order that.
Note that these structures are normally used with (modal) auxiliary verbs.
• He’s staying on in Australia for nine more months so that he can perfect his
English.
• He’s staying on in Australia for nine more months in order to perfect his
English.
• We’re going to leave by three so that we don’t get stuck in the rush-hour
traffic.
• We’re going to leave by three so as not to get stuck in the rush-hour traffic.
• Jamie had an afternoon nap so that he wouldn’t fall asleep at the concert
later.
• Jamie had an afternoon nap in order not to fall asleep at the concert later.
• In order that you may pass the exam, we recommend you read through all
your notes. (Very formal.)
• In order to pass the exam, we recommend you read through all your notes.
(Less formal.)
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Note that in informal colloquial English, that may be omitted from the so that
construction.
Listen out for this variation, though I wouldn’t recommend that you use it:
• I’ll come early so we can have a good chat before Denise arrives.
• I’ve bought a video camera so I can film the children as they grow up.
• We shall wear warm clothes when we go camping in October so we don’t get
cold.
Sometimes I understand it, sometimes not. It is one of the relative clauses, I think.
Please explain more about relative clauses such as 'of which', 'by which', 'on
which', 'where', etc.
relative clauses
We use relative clauses and relative pronouns like who, which, where to
introduce them in order to identify people and things or to give more information
about them.
• That boy who is standing at the bus stop over there is my little brother.
• My new camera which I bought on the internet last week is broken.
• The High Street jeweller's which bought and sold silver and where you could
get a good price by bargaining has closed down.
In which and at which are sometimes used as more precise sounding alternatives
to where to introduce relative clauses after nouns referring to place:
• Near where I live there's a wood where you can find woodpeckers.
• Near where I live there's a wood in which you can find woodpeckers.
• The fancy-dress party, where the men all turned up as gangsters, was
held in Manhatten.
• The fancy-dress party, at which the men all turned up as gangsters, was
held in Manhatten.
when / on which
• The day when I'm forced to give up riding will be a sad day for me.
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• The day on which I'm forced to give up riding will be a sad day for me.
position of prepositions
Note that in questions the preposition is more frequently placed at the end of the
clause. It can also be placed before the relative pronoun where it sounds more
formal:
• He lives in the street where all the houses are surrounded by high fences.
• He lives in the street in which the houses are surrounded by high fences
Note from examples above and below that putting the preposition at the end of the
clause is usually also possible in statements:
• The people with whom he worked have all been arrested. (Formal)
• The people (who) he worked with have all been arrested. (Informal)
Note from these examples, that in statements when the preposition is placed at the
end of the clause, we can use that instead of who or which or we can omit the
relative pronoun completely!
A wide range of prepositions are often used in prepositional structures with relative
pronouns who and which to introduce relative clauses. In most cases, the
prepositions retain their original meaning. Compare the following:
• That post marks the beginning of the mined area, beyond which it is
inadvisable to go.
• In the clearing lay the badly injured soldier, above whom birds of prey were
circling.
• We passed a giant toadstool in the forest, under which fairies were sitting.
• They had collected the sap from the sugar maple trees, from which maple
syrup is manufactured.
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• Before us we could see a forest orchid of which there are many varieties.
Note that when the relative pronoun is placed immediately after the preposition
we can't use who instead of whom, and we can't use that or zero pronoun
either.
What are linking adverbs - please give me some examples - and are they also
called conjunctive adverbs?
Linking adverbs
Linking adverbs are adverbs that are used to link ideas or clauses in spoken
discourse or written text. They could also be called conjunctive adverbs in so far as
they perform the same sort of function as conjunctions.
We use a very wide variety of linking adverbs. Some are more commonly used in
formal written English, whilst others are more characteristic of informal, spoken
language. Here are some of the most common.
Yet and but still are used to link contrasting ideas together. But still is very
informal, yet is semi-formal. In the examples below, note how different meaning and
usage is when they are employed as adverbs, adding information to the verb, and as
linking adverbs, contrasting ideas:
• Haven't you finished that work yet? Come on. Get a move on!
• I have yet / still to see an English orchid as beautiful as those in the rain
forests of Brazil.
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• I've cautioned him three times already for arriving late for work. But he still
turned up ten minutes late again this morning.
Note that yet as a linking adverb can only be placed in front position in the clause.
Still can be placed before or immediately after the subject: but he still… / but still
he….
As well / too
As well and too are linking adverbs, meaning also or in addition, which would
be a more formal equivalent. Again, note the difference in meaning and usage when
they are employed as adverbs modifying the adjective or adding information to the
verb, and as linking adverbs, meaning in addition:
• I certainly can't play the piano as well as she does. Katerina is good enough
to be a concert pianist. I play quite well, but not as well.
• We're all going to Cornwall for our holidays this year. Oh, and Jeremy's
coming as well / too.
Note that too and as well as linking adverbs are normally placed in end position
in the clause, although in a more formal style too can be placed immediately after
the subject:
However / nevertheless
• It is clear that prices have been rising steadily throughout this year. It is,
however, unlikely that they will continue to rise as quickly next year.
• I would be the first to admit that prices have risen sharply this year.
Nevertheless, they are unlikely to rise as sharply next year.
• The politician was confident of success. His advisers were not so certain,
however.
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• He always remains cheerful. But his life has been beset by constant illness,
nevertheless.
Note that however and nevertheless reflect more formal usage and that both can
come in front, mid or end position in the clause.
Whereas / while
Whereas and while are both conjunctions which we use as linking devices to
balance ideas or contrasting points in a more formal style of English. As
conjunctions they can only come at front position in the clause
• It rains quite a lot in England in the summer months whereas rain in Spain
in the summer is a rare occurrence.
• While I don't mind you having the occasional glass of wine, drinking too
much is not in order.
• Perhaps we should spend the whole week under canvas. On the other hand,
it may rain a lot and then we could return home earlier.
However, the question does give us a very clear example of something which is very
common in English. It’s an example of ellipses. Ellipses is missing out what you, the
speaker and the listener already know. In Paul’s example, we have “I will never
forget you” and “nor I you.”
The person who is answering really means “nor will I ever forget you.”
However, both the listener and the speaker know that this information is shared so
they don’t need to say it. You can find much more common examples of ellipses in
everyday language, for example, in the sentence: “I drove to work, and then I
parked the car in the car park.” You wouldn’t really expect to hear “I” said twice. So
normally you would hear “I drove to work and parked in the car park.” We miss out
the second “I” because we already know that it’s there.
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Similarly, “I listen to the news on the radio and I listened to the drama programme
on the radio.” You would normally say “I listened to the news and the drama
programme on the radio.” This gives us all of the new information, but it misses out
the things which we know already. In this case, “I listened” so “I listened to the news
and the drama programme on the radio.”
We can think of lots of other examples if we can think of the example of love and
forgetting, you may hear in a film, for example, “I will always love you.” And the
person who’s listening may say “and I you.” What they mean is, “and I will always
love you.” But they don’t need to repeat the words which the other speaker has
already said.
Ellipses also feature in sentences where we know exactly what the speaker is saying,
and they may drop off a final word. So for example: “he is as tall as I am.” You may
actually hear someone say “he is as tall as I.” We don’t need the “am” as it doesn’t
add any new information.
We try to be as economical as possible when we speak, using only the words which
will give the listener the information which he or she needs. Therefore, if we’re
repeating information or adding in extra words which don’t give any more
information, we tend to drop them out. This is what ellipses are.
And in Paul’s example “I will never forget you”…“nor I you” - this is something you’re
actually unlikely to hear these days in British English. Probably the person answering
would say “me neither.” However, grammatically, “nor I you” is the more correct.
In the sentence: Today we learned that the university is going to close the
math department it is necessary to include that, but in the sentence The work I
do is very important it is not included. Shouldn't it be: The work that I do...?
In your first example sentence, that is used as a conjunction, joining two parts of
the sentence. After verbs like learned, discovered, found (out), knew, felt,
thought, it is quite natural to omit that, especially in informal speech:
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I discovered Julian had borrowed my car without my permission.
After the more common reporting verbs, (e.g. say, tell) it is also entirely natural to
omit that in informal speech:
I told him I'd be back by ten o'clock but he said he needed me here by nine.
After certain verbs (e.g. replied, shouted) that cannot be omitted and it is not
normally dropped after nouns:
The Dean of the Humanities Faculty informed the students that the drama dept was
going to close.
He left a message on my voice mail that he was leaving immediately for Vienna.
There are a number of two-word conjunctions where that may be omitted. These
include so that and now that which we can use to talk about purpose and result
and providing that and provided that which we can use to talk about imposing
conditions.
In a more formal style we may prefer to retain that, but in an informal style it is
often omitted. Compare the following:
We intend to send her to Brazil so that she can perfect her Portuguese.
Now that we've joined the EU, prices are sure to rise.
Now the exams are over I can lie in bed all morning.
Provided that / providing that you sign the contract before we join the EU, you won't
have to pay VAT.
You can borrow my DVD player, providing / provided you return it on Monday.
The work (that / which) she does for this company is much appreciated.
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The representatives of the company (that / who) I met in Portugal were very helpful.
Note from the above examples that that can be used to refer to both things and
people, whereas which as a relative pronoun can only refer to things and who can
only refer to people.
Note also that when the relative pronoun is the subject of a relative clause, it has to
be included. It cannot be omitted then:
Menorca is one of the Balearic Islands that / which lies to the north east of Mallorca.
We have a number of friends who / that have built holiday homes on the island.
Are both of them correct? Which one should I use? Thank you for helping me.
Both are perfectly correct and sound perfectly natural in this example, so use either
or both. Generally speaking, the participial clause, starting with -ing or -ed, is
more characteristic of written English, as it allows us to say the same thing as a
relative clause, starting with who, which or that, but with fewer words.
Participial clauses are also frequently heard in radio and TV news broadcasts (as
well as newspaper articles and reports) as they permit a lot of information to be
compressed into a limited amount of time. This is one reason why they are often
difficult for a learner of English to follow.
The reporting of The Great Train Robber Ronnie Biggs’ arrival back in the UK a couple
of weeks ago as he stepped off the plane after 35 years on the run in Australia and
Brazil was reported as follows:
"The only glimpse of Biggs, dressed in blue shirt and green sweater, lasted only
a few seconds. Lawyers acting for Biggs have said they will seek a hearing before
the Court of Appeal".
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• It took the ambulances called ( = that were called / that had been called) to
the scene over half an hour to get through.
A participial clause, starting with -ing is used instead of a relative pronoun plus
active verb, continuous or simple.
• The train now arriving (= which is now arriving) at platform 1 is the 6.36
from Newcastle.
• There are delays for people travelling to work (= who are travelling to
work) on Southern Region trains this morning.
• Anyone touching (= who touches ) these priceless exhibits will be
escorted out of the museum.
• The police impounded all the vehicles belonging to (= which belonged to)
his brother.
• The boy driving (= who was driving) the BMW was underage, unlicensed
and over the limit.
Note that when we are talking about a single completed action in a defining relative
clause, we cannot use an active participle:
• The girl who fell down the cliff broke her leg.
(NOT: The girl falling down cliff…)
There is not very much difference in meaning between these two pairs of sentences.
Sometimes we can use an -ing or past participle clause with similar meanings, as
here, although use of the past participle form emphasises that the first action has
been completed before the second action begins. Thus, we could paraphrase these
two sentences as follows:
Having seen an accident ahead, I stopped my car. I noticed that there had been an
accident ahead and stopped my car.
Seeing an accident ahead, I stopped my car. When I saw the accident ahead, I
stopped my car.
In general, we tend not to use participle clauses so much in speech. They are too
formal. In speech we would probably say:
However, in written English participial clauses can be very useful. As you can see
from the examples above, when the subject in the participle clause is the same as
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the participle in the main clause, they enable us to say the same thing, but with
fewer words.
Used sparingly, this face cream should last you until Christmas. If you use it
sparingly, this face cream should last you until Christmas.
Having taken the wrong train, I found myself in Bath, not Bristol. Because I had
taken the wrong train, I found myself in Bath, not Bristol.
Passing the theatre on my right, I walked up the steps and could see all the lights on
the Thames ahead of me. After I had passed the theatre on my right, I walked up
the steps and could see all the lights on the Thames ahead of me.
Note from the above examples that the -ing form participle is used to talk about
past, as well as present events, e.g.:
Participle clauses, with -ing particularly, can be used after various conjunctions and
prepositions, such as: when, while, before, after, on, without, instead of. Note
the following examples:
Remember to take all your belongings with you when leaving the train.
I sprained my ankle while playing tennis.
Before entering the mosque you must take off your shoes.
After taking everything into consideration, we decided to sell the house.
After having driven 300 miles across country, I arrived to find the house had been
sold.
On hearing that my sister was planning to marry him, I decided to leave the flat to
her.
Without wanting to seem rude, I must tell you that you are ungrateful.
Instead of listening to my advice, she walked out without saying goodbye.
Note from the above examples that the participle clause normally, but not invariably,
comes in front of the main clause.
Negative participle clauses are also possible, in which case not normally comes
before the -ing form or past participle:
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Not having had a shower for two days, I was desperate to get to the bathroom.
Whilst not wishing to appear impolite, I must ask you to leave so that I can make a
private telephone call.
Note that this passive structure can also be used in participle clauses as an
alternative to a since-clause:
Having been invited to the party by Prince William himself, we could hardly refuse to
go. ( = Since we had been invited…)
Having been deprived of food for over twenty days, the castaway was fed
intravenously at first.
Having been unemployed for over two years, I found it difficult to get work.
Mr and Mrs Smith have been quarrelling since they’ve been married. They’ve been
happy since they’ve lived here.
I was taught that since introduces a date, not a period of time, and no grammar has
given me a clear explanation on that question. Thank you.
Since is used in a variety of different ways, both with the present perfect and with
other tenses.
'since' as preposition
'since' as conjunction
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Since as a conjunction sometimes combines with ever to make ever since. Note
also in these examples that present and past tenses are possible in the main
clause as well as the present perfect:
We’ve been patronising this pub (ever) since we’ve been living in this village.
We’ve been patronising this pub (ever) since we moved to this village.
It’s only a week since I met him, but we’re very much in love.
It’s only a week since we’ve known each other, but we’re very much in love.
It was in the summer of 2001 that I saw her and it was over 20 years since we had
last met.
'Do you realize,' I said, 'it’s over 20 years since we last met?'
Note that since can also be used as an adverb. Since then refers to a particular
point in time and ever since to a period of time. Which one we use depends on
whether we want to focus attention on the point in time or on the continuing period
of time. Compare the following:
She left home in 1992 and hasn’t contacted us since then. The company started
losing money in 2002 and has been in serious decline since then.
The company started losing money in 2002 and has been in serious decline ever
since. I took my final exams five years ago and have been working as a doctor ever
since.
Could you kindly tell me whether the use of so in the following sentence is correct:
'Miles looked older than his brother, revealing so a strange maturity.' Here so should
stand for 'in this way'.
If so here means 'in this way' or 'thus', it would normally come immediately after the
main clause:
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• 'Miles looked older than his brother, so revealing a strange maturity.' ('so' =
less formal)
• 'Miles looked older than his brother, thus revealing a strange maturity.'
('thus' = more formal)
However, if you are using so or such for emphasis to mean 'to a very great degree
or extent', their position immediately before the adjective is correct.
But take care using these two forms. It has to be such before a noun or before an
adjective plus noun. So it will be:
• 'Miles looked older than his brother, revealing such a strange maturity.'
So is obviously used in a similar way, but is placed before adjectives standing alone
or before adverb plus adjective, thus:
• 'She was so indescribably beautiful that we couldn't take our eyes off her.'
Remember:
such + noun
so + adjective
such + adjective + noun
so + adverb + adjective
Occasionally, in certain expressions, when the noun has a gradeable meaning, the
indefinite article is dropped:
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You will already have noticed from at least one of the above examples that so and
such are often followed by 'that'-clauses suggesting result or consequence. Note
that when plural nouns are used after such, the article is, of course, omitted.
There is one exception to the general rule as set out above and that is that only so
can be used with indefinite determiners much and many and it is more usual with
little and few when these are followed by a noun. We therefore have the new
pattern:
so + determiner + noun
• 'So many sun-worshippers had crowded on to the beach that there was no
space left for my towel.'
• 'I'm sure there will be so much noise in the restaurant that I shan't be able to
hear what anybody is saying.'
• 'I had so little rest over the weekend that I couldn't go to work on Monday
morning.'
• 'There were so few leaves on the tree that it was pointless to try to shelter
from the rain beneath it.'
You cannot say: 'such many sun-worshippers', or 'such much noise' and it would be
unusual to say: 'such few leaves' or 'such little rest'.
Finally compare:
You will already have noticed from at least one of the above examples that 'so' and
'such' are often followed by that-clauses suggesting result or consequence. Note that
when plural nouns are used after 'such', the article is, of course, omitted. 'I'm so
glad (that) you could come!' 'It had been so hot on the journey (that) we had to
drink a litre of water when we arrived home.' 'There was so much to do on that
holiday (that) nobody ever got bored.' 'They were such good swimmers (that) they
had no difficulty swimming across the fast-flowing river.' 'She prepared such good
meals (that) no one ever thought of going out to eat.' 'I've got such a high
temperature (that) I'm hoping (that) my husband will drive me straight to the
surgery when he gets home from work.'
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Though
I have a little question about though. I'm not sure of its many meanings.
Sometimes it is in the middle of a sentence and sometimes at the end of a
sentence and I get confused.
Yes, it's true, you can put though at the beginning, in the middle and at the end of
sentences.
We can use though, and although, or even though at the beginning of a subordinate
clause to mark a contrast with the idea in the main clause. For example:
'Even though he didn't have much time, he stopped to help the old lady.'
We can also put though at the end of the contrasting clause. For example:
'I still find English hard to understand; I can understand more than last year,
though!'
When placed at the end of a sentence like this, though means 'nevertheless' or
'however'.
Nguyen Tu Thang from Vietnam writes: Could you please explain the use of the word
though in sentences where its role seems to be nothing but an added word used at
the end of sentences in conversation?
Alex from Peru writes: Is the meaning the same when we use even though and
even when? I'm quite confused about this.
though as conjunction
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(Al)though the sausages were past their sell-by date, I ate them and didn't become
ill.
even though
Note that we use even though as an alternative to though or although when the
ideas expressed appear more extreme or surprising::
Even though the earthquake occurred ten days ago, the authorities believe it may
still be possible to find survivors under the rubble.
though as adverb
In your definition of the word, Nguyen, though is used as an adverb with a meaning
similar to however. Again it indicates a contrast. Used in this way, it occupies either
mid or end position in a sentence and makes the previous statement or idea seem
less true or appealing:
I thought Steve's essay was very good. ~ Yes, he made some good points and it was
good in parts. It was a bit repetitive, though.
I drove that new convertible the other day. Very impressive. ~ Isn't it rather
expensive, though?
It seems he's still suspected of the crime. His main defence, though, is that he spent
the evening with his girlfriend and she seems totally credible.
When we use even before if, when and though, it has the effect of making the ideas
expressed appear more extreme or surprising. Even if is used for emphasising that
although something might happen, the situation will not change:
I shall continue to work from 6 a.m. till midnight, even if it kills me.
Even when is used for emphasising that although something happens on a regular
basis, the situation does not change:
She checks her text messages when you least expect her to, even when she's
driving.
He never stops talking and goes on and on even when other people are talking.
Even though, as we have seen, introduces a fact that makes the main statement in
your sentence seem very surprising:
Even though she has a degree in business administration, all her business ventures
have failed.
They made me feel as if I was one of the family, even though I'd never met any of
them before.
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even so
Note that even if, even when and even though are conjunctions, linking two
clauses. Even so like though, meaning however, is an adverb and is used for
introducing a statement that seems surprising after what has been said before.
This time he has kept all the promises he made. Even so, I don't really trust him.
I know you know this piece of music off by heart, but, even so, you should follow the
score.
unless = if not
Unless is similar in meaning to if not and can be used instead of if not in certain
types of conditional sentences. We normally use unless with present tenses when
we are referring to the future:
You won't get in to see the show, if you don't have reserved seats. OR:
Unless you have reserved seats, you won't get in to see the show.
I'll see you at the gym this evening, if you're not too tired. OR:
I'll see you at the gym this evening, unless you're too tired.
if not
And we cannot use unless with would to talk about unreal future situations:
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We cannot use unless with would have to talk about unreal situations in the past
either:
• If you hadn't driven so recklessly, you wouldn't have had this accident.
• If you hadn't had that last glass of wine, this would never have happened.
unless
• I shan't bother to go to the meeting at the school tonight - unless you want
to go, of course.
Unless can be used with a past participle in a reduced clause, Haja, when you
choose to omit the subject words and the auxiliary verbs within the brackets in the
examples below:
• Don't shut down these computers unless (you are) instructed to do so. Just
log off.
• Unless (he is) given sufficient warning of the consequences, he will continue
to misbehave.
However, this often makes the language produced sound rather formal and in spoken
English we would normally retain subject words and auxiliary verbs.
Otherwise is used as a linking adverb and has the meaning of apart from this or if
we disregard this:
• The sea was very rough and we couldn't swim all week, but otherwise /
apart from this we enjoyed ourselves.
• They all suffered from hypothermia. Otherwise, / Apart from that, they
were OK.
It also has the meaning of if not, in the sense of if this does not happen, or if
this were not the case, when it is used as a linking device:
• Remember to use sun cream with high protection when you go down to the
beach. Otherwise, / If you don't, you'll get sunburnt within half an hour.
• Look, we really must hurry. Otherwise, / If we don't, we'll miss the train.
• He must be quite intelligent. Otherwise, he wouldn't have got into
university. / If he wasn't, he wouldn't have got into university.
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What or that? and noun-verb collocations
I have two questions. Firstly, is it a mistake to say all what I have done instead of
all that I have done?
Secondly, I would like to know if it's possible to write: students gave their
feedback on the arguments treated by the teacher, or must I use subject or
topic instead of arguments and the verb dealt with instead of treated?
What or that?
Yes, it is a mistake to say: All what I have done…. What cannot be used as a relative
pronoun coming after a noun or pronoun. We have to use the relative pronoun that
and say: All that I have done…. Or, if that is the object of the relative clause as in
this example, we can simply omit it, use zero pronoun instead and say: All I've
done…
• All (that) I've done is to offer to help him with his homework. I haven't done
his homework for him.
Here are some more examples. Note that that cannot be omitted if it is the subject
of the relative clause as in the last example below:
• Everything (that) you ordered is now in the shop and can be collected.
• The paintings (that) I bought are now hanging on the walls in my house.
• The only thing that keeps me awake at night is wondering if the house is
properly insured.
What can, however, be used to introduce a clause where it combines the function of
noun and relative pronoun and means that which or the thing(s) that:
• What I did was help him with his homework, not do it for him.
• What he does in his free time doesn't interest me.
• I don't remember what time he went to bed last night. (what = the time
at which)
• I have no idea about what happened after I left.
Noun-verb collocations
In your example, Maria, of students gave their feedback on certain arguments, the
verb which best collocates with arguments here is raised, so the sentence would
read:
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• The students gave their feedback on the arguments raised by their teacher.
Collocation (or co-location if you like) refers to the way in which some words
regularly occur together. We do not usually treat arguments. We normally
would not say that. Instead, we raise arguments or discuss arguments.
However, if we are talking about wounds or injuries, these are the things we
treat. We might also treat a topic or subject if we are writing an essay as an
alternative to dealing with it.
• His injuries were serious and could only properly be treated in hospital.
• How do you propose to treat this topic when you are writing about
Napoleon?
Hello, I am Vaibhav. I am calling from India, and my question is: 'When do we use
'which' and when do we use 'that'? What are the constraints, what are the conditions
under which we use these two words?
Now, in a relative clause, we can use 'who' or 'whom' for people, and 'which' for
things. So we can say: 'the man who came to dinner', or 'the bridge which crosses
the Ganges up river from here'. So: 'the man who came to dinner', 'the bridge which
crosses the Ganges'.
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Now, 'that' is less formal, and it can be used for both people and things in some
relative clauses. So I could say, less formally: 'the man that came to dinner', 'the
bridge that crosses the Ganges'.
But, 'that' can only be used in what we call identifying relative clauses and those are
clauses where you need the information to understand what you're talking about.
Those were both identifying relative clauses, but if I said: 'Mr Swan, who came to
dinner', I don't need 'who came to dinner' to define Mr Swan, I've already identified
him. So, you can not use 'that' in that sentence, and you can not use 'that' if you are
talking about: 'Waterloo Bridge, which crosses the Thames up river from here'. So,
that's when you use 'which' for identifying relative clauses and for non-identifying
relative clauses, but you can only use 'that' informally for identifying relative clauses.
Is that clear?
Vaibhav responds:
Can we take certain examples for this, like, there is a group of presidents who are
meeting in the conference: 'the president who is from India', 'the president which is
from India', 'the president that is from India' - which one is correct?
which or that?
I would be very grateful if you could explain how to choose between which and that
in a sentence. This is a great problem for me. Thanks in advance.
That and which can be used interchangeably in most circumstances, Isabelle. That
can even be used as an alternative to who. Let's take a closer look.
Who, which and that are all relative pronouns and are used to introduce relative
clauses. They can be used as the subjects of verbs in relative clauses. As relative
pronouns, who can only refer to people and which can only refer to things. But that
can refer to both people and things. That when it refers to people denotes an
informal style of English. Compare the following:
Who is the woman wearing dark glasses who arrived five minutes ago?
'The Office' is a TV sit-com which / that is not suitable for young children.
Do you know anyone that could help me design web pages? - I know a German web
artist who designed web pages for Lufthansa.
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Note that who, which and that replace he, she, it and they and enable us to join
two clauses which would otherwise be separate.
Who is the woman wearing dark glasses? She arrived five minutes ago.
Who, which and that can also be used in a similar way as the objects of verbs in
relative clauses in which case they replace him, her, it and them. We can use
whom instead of who as an object relative pronoun in a more formal style of
English. Compare the following:
She's now living with the musician that / who she met at the pop concert.
She's now living with the musician whom she met at the pop concert.
She's now living with the musician. She met him at the pop concert.
Where are the Radiohead CDs which / that your brother borrowed last week?
Where are the Radiohead CDs? Your brother borrowed them last week.
Note that when who, which and that function as object relative pronouns, they are
often left out of the sentence altogether:.
She's now living with the musician she met at the pop concert.
Where are the Radiohead CDs your brother borrowed last week?
After quantifiers like everything, something, all and after the thing… we normally use
that rather than which:
All that will be left after the auction are a few candlestick holders.
Where the relative pronoun refers to the whole of the previous clause, and not just
to the noun that precedes it, that cannot be used. In these instances, we have to
use which:
The explorer Sir Ranulph Fiennes ran in seven marathons in five different continents
recently which is amazing for a man of 59 who had a heart attack six months ago.
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The explorer Sir Ranulph Fiennes ran in seven marathons in five different continents
recently. This is amazing for a man of 59 who had a double heart bypass operation
six months ago.
Have you got any pieces for the guitar that are easy to play?
I lent him The Rain in Spain and Japanese Folk Song, which are easy to play.
The ninth symphony, which was composed in the final year of his life, was not
performed until after this death
How do we know whether we should say 'in which', 'at which', 'of which' or 'for
which'?
So let’s look at the first one – the prepositions that you’ve given us are in which, at
which, of which, for which – which one do we choose? Basically, our choice of
preposition is governed by the verb that relates to it. So, for example, if we take the
phrase “in which” - we might say “That’s the film in which I’m interested.” Another
way of saying this is “That’s the film I’m interested in.” It’s the verb “interested” that
tells us we need to use the preposition “in”.
Similarly, with “at which” – “that’s the university at which I studied.” Another way of
saying this is “That’s the university which I studied at.” It’s the verb “study” that tells
us we need to use the preposition “at”.
However, in written English, we try to avoid putting the preposition at the end of the
sentence. We can say “That’s the film I’m interested in.” “That’s the university which
I studied at.” “That’s a song I’ve heard of.” But when were writing formal English, we
try to take that preposition and put it into the middle of the sentence. This is where
we need to use the relative pronoun which – “That’s the university I studied at.”
“That’s the university at which I studied.” “That’s the film I’m interested in.” “That’s
the film in which I’m interested.”
The important thing to remember is this is found in very formal written English and
when we’re speaking we would normally put the preposition at the end of the
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sentence. So it’s not really a big problem.
However, if you want to make your written language very formal then this is where
you need to consider putting the preposition into the middle of the sentence before
the relative pronoun.
when/while/meanwhile
What are the differences in use between when and while and when can we use
meanwhile?
when or while
• The prisoners escaped when / while the prison warders were eating their
lunch.
• When / While the prison warders were eating their lunch, the prisoners
escaped.
Note that we can also use as and whilst in the same way, although they sometimes
sounds more formal or literary
• As the sun went down, I sipped a rum and coke on the balcony.
• I sipped a rum and coke on the balcony whilst the sun went slowly down on
the horizon.
Note that during, which also introduces a longer period of time, is a preposition
which is use with a noun or noun phrase:
We use when, not while, to talk about something that occurs at the same time as a
longer action or event that is described in the main clause:
• I was asleep in my chair when Dora rang to say she wasn't coming home.
• We were playing monopoly when the lights went off.
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We also use when, not while, to talk about one event that happens immediately
after another and to talk about periods of time in the past.
• When the lights went out, everybody groaned: "Oh no, not another power
cut!"
• When I was a little boy, power cuts were very frequent, but that was just
after the war.
When can also be used instead of whenever, meaning every time that:
We often prefer while to when to describe the longer action of two events or to
talk about two longer actions that go on simultaneously:
• Dora left a message on the voice mail while I was asleep in the chair.
• While I was writing my Christmas cards, the children were decorating
the tree.
• I cooked the supper while Jenny did the ironing.
Note from the above examples that while a progressive tense is normally used to
describe the longer action associated with a while time clause, simple tenses are also
possible.
Note also that it is often possible to omit subject + be in when- and while-
clauses if the main and subordinate clauses refer to the same subject:
• When (you are) crossing the road, be careful to look right, left and right
again.
• They came across human remains while (they were) excavating the site.
While is not used only used to introduce adverbial clauses of time. In more formal
usage, it is used to link or balance ideas that contrast each other:
• While I am happy for us all to eat at home, I don't want to spend hours
in the kitchen preparing the food.
• While the news from the front has so far been good, there will almost
certainly be days when we must expect heavy casualties.
Note in this usage the while-clause is normally placed as the first of the contrasting
points.
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Meanwhile, meaning during this time, is a linking adverb which connects and
contrasts ideas between two sentences. It indicates that one event is going on at the
same time as another:
• Slice and brush the aubergines with oil and bake in the oven till soft.
Meanwhile, melt some butter in a small pan…
• Why don't you prepare the boats ready for the water?Meanwhile, I'll check
to see that we've got enough oars.
Note that when while functions as a noun, it is nearly always used with an indefinite
article:
• I haven't seen you around for a while. Where have you been?
• Let's just wait a little while longer. He's bound to turn up eventually.
While can be used in a number of different ways. We use it, first and foremost,
when we want to talk about things that happen simultaneously. In this sense, it is
similar to ‘as’ and ‘when’. All of these conjunctions can serve to introduce a longer
background situation which started before the shorter action. Consider the following
and, at the same time, note the use that is made of the past continuous in these
contexts.
As you can see from the above examples, while is particularly useful if we are
discussing long actions and wish to draw attention to the duration of the activities.
Consider the following:
Note that if the subject is the same in both clauses, a participial construction may be
used, particularly in written English. Compare the following:
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• 'She completed her first novel while working for the local newspaper.'
• 'She completed her first novel while she was working for the local
newspaper.'
while / whereas to link two ideas that contrast with each other:
Note that while does not always refer to time. It is also used to balance two ideas
that contrast with, but do not contradict, each other. In this sense, it is similar to
whereas. Consider the following:
• 'While I like all types of fish, my girlfriend always chooses meat dishes when
we go out to eat.'
• 'Some married couples argue all time, whereas others never do.'
• 'We would always choose somewhere in the mountains for a holiday, while
our children always want the seaside.'
Note that whilst we would use while or whereas within sentences to contrast two
ideas, across sentences we would need to use ‘however’ or ‘on the other hand’.
Compare the following:
• 'In the UK the hottest month of the year is usually July, whereas in southern
Europe the hottest period is usually in August.'
• 'In the UK the hottest month of the year is usually July. On the other hand,
in southern Europe the hottest period is usually in August.'
• 'Britain secured only one gold medal in Atlanta four years ago, while at
Sydney 2000 we ended up with eleven.'
• 'Britain secured only one gold medal in Atlanta four years ago. At Sydney
2000, however, we ended up with eleven.
Yet is similar in meaning to but. But people also say: not yet. This is confusing.
~Not yet.
yet as conjunction
• They can speak Arabic but they can’t read or write it.
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• He tried to book a holiday on Bali, but he didn’t have enough money to pay
for it.
We use yet as the preferred alternative to but when we want to emphasise that
contrast to achieve a stronger effect:
• She can play the piano very well, yet she can’t read music at all.
• The yachtsman had lost all sense of direction, yet he refused to give up in his
attempt to cross the Atlantic.
We sometimes put and in front of yet when it is used in this way or use even so as
an alternative to yet or and yet:
• She can play the piano very well, and yet she can’t read music at all.
• The yachtsman had lost all sense of direction. Even so, he refused to give up
in his attempt to cross the Atlantic.
• He had no chance of winning the race or even of coming in the first six.
However, he kept going and crossed the finishing line ahead of his team
mates.
• He had not slept for three nights. Nevertheless, he insisted on going into
work the following day.
In colloquial spoken English, mind you, but still or still are sometimes used as less
formal alternatives to yet:
• The weather was lousy. It rained every day. Still, we managed to enjoy
ourselves.
• I don’t like the work very much. Mind you, the people I work with are very
nice.
• You can be very annoying at times, but we still love you.
yet as adverb
When yet is used as an adverb, it is used to talk about something over a period of
time, up till now:
It is often used with the negative when you are saying that up to the present time
something has not happened. It is normally used with present and perfect tenses,
though in American English you will sometimes hear it used with the past tense. Still
can sometimes be used as an alternative to yet. When we use still in this way, it is
emphatic. We are saying that we are very surprised that it hasn’t happened.
Compare the following:
• Don’t eat the plums. They’re not ripe yet. / They’re still not ripe.
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• I haven’t been to Wales or Scotland yet, though I’ve visited England many
times.
• I still haven’t been to Wales or Scotland, even though I’ve visited England
many times.
• Did you phone him yet? No, sorry. I forgot.
As we can see from the above examples, yet is normally used with negative
sentences and in questions, but it is sometimes used in affirmative sentences in a
more formal style:
'yet' and 'but', 'so' and 'hence', 'for example' and 'for instance'
• 'The sun was shining and there was no wind, yet it was unusually cold.'
• 'The sun was shining and there was no wind, but it was unusually cold.'
Note that you can put and in front of yet when it comes at the beginning of a
clause, but of course this is not possible with but, so you can say:
• 'The cyclists were tired and hungry, all but exhausted, (and) yet they refused
to give up in their attempt to finish the race.'
• 'Paul didn't have enough money for the train ticket, so he had to go to the
cashpoint before he could travel.'
• 'It is clear to us now that drug abuse can never be beneficial to the user;
hence we seem to have got it wrong in suggesting that it may sometimes be
acceptable.'
In spoken English, we often begin a sentence with so, thus making a link with what
has been said before:
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• 'We couldn't find the key, so we couldn't open the door.'
• 'So what did you do?'
• 'There are a number of rules you must abide by. For instance, you may not
use the swimming pool unsupervised.'
• 'You have all made silly mistakes on this trip. John, for example, failed to
secure the boat properly and Adam took the jet ski out when the sea was far
too rough.'
I am an English teacher in Brazil and I am in doubt as regards the use of the suffix -
al. For example, in the sentence: ‘The Electrical Sector plans new measures for next
year’ is it:
Is there any rule to solve this sort of problem? Is this kind of mistake common
among native speakers of English?
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• 'Electrical appliances such as washing machines and dishwashers use a lot of
electricity.'
• 'My new car has electrically-operated windows.'
• 'My house was full of electrical and electronic (note: not ‘electronical’)
equipment.'
• 'The electrical and mechanical engineering industries are doing well at the
present time.'
We use ‘electric’ to describe things to do with current and voltage, simpler machines
and devices and the atmosphere. Consider the following:
• 'An electric fire in winter and an electric fan in summer were all I needed.'
• 'The electric wiring in this house needs to be renewed.'
• 'The atmosphere was electric when Tina Turner came on stage.
• 'The economic outlook in this country is now bleaker than at any time in the
last ten years.'
However, if we are talking about making personal economies and saving money, we
tend to use ‘economical’. ‘Economical’ also means using the minimum amount of
time or energy. Study the following:
• 'This car is not very economical. It only does 15 miles to the gallon.'
• 'Storage heaters are extremely economical because they run on night-time
electicity.'
• 'Politicians are invariably economical with the truth.'
• 'We wanted to make the most economical use of our time as we had only
half a day there.'
Other adjectival suffixes are much more clear-cut. If we are discussing science and
technology, there is no choice: the adjectival forms are quite clearly ‘scientific’ and
‘technological’:
• 'Scientific investigation revealed that the dinosaur footprints were from the
Cretaceous period.'
• 'Japan is one of the most technologically advanced nations.'
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Although he came from Genoa in Italy,
Christopher Columbus is often thought of
as a - FAME - Spanish explorer.
Answers
1. famous
2. horrific
3. healthy
4. expensive
5. fashionable
6. hopeful
7. photographic
8. national
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-ise or -ize, hyphens and The Lake Como...
1. Since I prefer British English to American English, I would like to know if it is true
that verbs (and thus their relative substantives) ending with -ize are more used in
the USA, while the British prefer the corresponding ones ending with -ise? In a
bilingual (Italian to English) dictionary I saw that there are really few verbs ending
with -ise, like analyse, advertise, privatise, etc., while I could not find the
corresponding -ise version of most important verbs ending with -ize (realize,
organize, etc.); On the other hand I see them spelt as -ise in many newspapers,
magazines, scientific reviews and even in your answers to previous questions. Please
tell me if I should definitely convert to -ise.
2. Another question is this: what is the rule for hyphenating words, if there is any, in
expressions like, e.g., high-quality performance, least-squares problem, etc., which
you would not hyphenate if they were not used as adjectives ( 'that material is of a
high quality', not 'high-quality'). How would one cope, for example, with an
expression like 'high and low tide-like phenomena' or 'deep seated gravitational slope
deformation phenomena'?
3. The last question concerns the use of articles before geographical names: Why
does one say ;the river Thames' but also 'the Hudson river'? Why not also 'the lake
Como' rather than 'lake Como'? Should one say 'Mount Etna' or 'the Etna Mount'?
Why do the speakers of the BBC say 'the Kosovo conflict' rather than 'Kosovo
conflict' (I am sorry for this last example, but I could not think of anything else at
the moment)?
1. Taking your questions in order, it is generally true, Massimo, that the American
preference for -ize is mirrored in British English by a general preference for -ise, so
it is perhaps useful to standardise on one of these two patterns as far as possible. In
a standard British dictionary - e.g. the Concise Oxford - you will often find that both
options are possible in British English - 'realise' or 'realize', 'organsise' or 'organize' -
whilst for other entries -ize is listed as unmistakably American, e.g. 'analyse' =
British English, 'analyze' = American English.
If you have a preference for British English in this respect, I assume for the sake of
consistency you will retain this preference for other spelling options, e.g.
'programme', not 'program'; 'colour', not 'color'; 'metre', not 'meter'; 'catalogue', not
catalog'; 'traveller', not traveler'. When you are reading American English, it can be
fun to spot the differences.
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have 'a deep-seated gravitational slope' to use your example, or 'a high-quality
virtuoso performance'.
Note also the pattern: 'part- and full-time jobs', 'high- and low-tide phenomena.'
However, if adjectives are placed after the verb, they are usually not hyphenated.
Compare 'an out-of-work actor', 'an up-to-date account' and 'He was out of work',
'She was up to date.'
3. Referring to geographical names or areas, we tend to use the definite article with:
Of course, there are always exceptions: The UK, The USA, The UAE, The
Netherlands, The Hague. It is just a matter of learning them!
I've got a question for you. Is there any rule which tells us when to use ....er and
when to
use .....ist at the end of a job name? For example:
painter or nutritionist
There are no rules, I'm afraid, although a number of patterns emerge. Unskilled or
semi-skilled job-holders are often denoted with …er, whilst those in scientific or
medical professions are often designated with …ist. But there are many exceptions.
The …er suffix is very common, but so is …or. The …ist ending is also quite common,
but so is …an. We also have …ant (accountant, shop assistant, civil servant,
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flight attendant) …man (postman, fireman, dustman, barman, draughtsman,
fisherman), …ess (waitress, hostess, Headmistress) …ee (trainee, employee)
and …ive (representative, machine operative), etc.
It is really a matter of leaning them and knowing them. Learn them in word families,
as in these examples below.
• He's a writer - the author of four books about China, but he's also worked
as a translator and interpreter, actor
and journalist.
Note that noun and verb forms relating to common occupations ending in …er and …
or are closely linked: teachers teach, writers write, actors act, supervisors
supervise, directors direct, bus and truck drivers drive their buses and lorries,
sailors sail, etc.
Note also that the …er /…or suffixes are also used for machines and equipment that
do a particular job:
• My kitchen is full of the latest gadgets: dishwasher, gas cooker with five
burners, electric toaster, electric can opener, blender / liquidiser - you
name it, I've got it.
• My son's got all his stuff in his bedroom: DVD player, video recorder,
camcorder, film projector.
• The whole family are musicians: Ed's a percussionist and pianist, Viola's a
flautist and cellist and Barry's a French horn player. Their parents are
both singers.
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• His older sister's a chemist / pharmacist, his younger sister's a speech
therapist and his mother works as his receptionist and telephonist.
• Did you say you were an optician? ~ No, I'm a politician. I'm spokesman
for international affairs and chairman of the refugee committee. My older
brother is the parliamentary librarian. My younger brother's a magician.
In the above example, …man can refer to both men or women. Some people now
argue that using …man is sexist and prefer to use spokesperson or chairperson.
We obviously do not have the same problem with policeman and policewoman,
although if we don't wish to specify the sex of the person, we can use police officer
instead.
Note that there are a number of jobs and professions which do not have suffixes
such as those outlined above. Here are a few of the most common:
• In the Roman Catholic Church, bishops are senior to priests and in the
Anglican Church rectors normally have wider responsibilities than vicars and
curates.
• She's a nurse on a hospital ward but hopes to be promoted to sister and
matron one day.
• He's pastry chef at the Dorchester now, but started out as a cook in a two-
star hotel.
• His two passions were animals and flying: he never made it as a vet but
became a successful pilot.
'Flammable' or 'inflammable'? Negative prefixes, un-, in-, im-, il-, dis-, etc.
All this is somewhat strange, because usually when we add a prefix such as in- or
un- or dis- to the beginning of adjectives, adverbs and verbs, we give them the
opposite meaning.
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Try this activity. Draw half a dozen columns on a large piece of paper and insert a
prefix heading in each column. Perhaps leave one or two columns empty for new
prefix headings as they occur to you. Your piece of paper should look something like
this:
Then, over a period of time, write in as many adjectives with a negative meaning
using these prefixes that you can think of.
To help you get started, you might like to test your knowledge against these
opposites. Print out this exercise, fill in the missing words and then check your
answers against the answer key. The first one is done for you.
Opposite of:
happy: We were really unhappy with the way the party was going
Answers
1. An illegal drug
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2. Impossible to drive such a distance in one day
3. An unsuccessful attempt
4. Irresponsible behaviour
5. A dress which was inappropriate for the occasion
6. Impolite behaviour
7. An irreligious family
8. A dishonest politician
9. Imperfect goods
10. Discontented with her life
N.B. As you complete your table, you will probably find that you end up with many
more adjectives in the un- and in- columns than in any others. Happy hunting!
Noun suffixes
I'm not sure how the suffix -ness works. Can we add -ness to all types of words to
make nouns? Thanks for your answer.
• There was a lot of sadness in the office when people learned of his illness.
• His readiness to have a personal word with everybody at the funeral was
much appreciated.
• If you want to work for such an organisation, you are expected to maintain a
high standard of tidiness in your appearance.
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-ity is another noun suffix that is formed from adjectives. Here are some adjectives
whose noun forms are made in this way:
• Her behaviour was hilarious but hilarity is not easily tolerated in a convent
school.
• The scarcity of water was serious, but all natural resources were scarce.
-tion, or, less frequently -sion (both pronounced with a 'sh' sound on the initial
letter) are noun suffixes that are used to make nouns from verbs. Here are some
common verbs whose noun forms are made by adding -tion:
Note that adjustments that are necessary to the spelling in each case:
• The dress will have to be altered and I'm going to have the alteration done
professionally.
• I informed the police that I had seen one of the robbers in Margate and this
information led to the arrest of the gang.
• I decided to give myself up. The decision was easy. My description was in
all the newspapers. And I had been on the run for three weeks.
-ment is another suffix that is used to make nouns from verbs and occasionally from
adjectives:
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enjoy replace appoint arrange merry
• Enjoyment is the most important thing in life and you simply don't know
how to enjoy yourself.
• You will need to replace the broken part and unfortunately replacements
cost £350.
• Everyone was quite merry by now. Such merriment had not been seen in
my mother's house for a long time.
-ance and -ence are suffixes that are used to make nouns from adjectives and
sometimes from verbs:
• Admittance to the theatre is not permitted once the show has started.
• His existence as a writer was threatened when people stopped buying his
books.
• I'm going to go into partnership with SIP and that will automatically give me
membership of the golf club.
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childhood motherhood neighbourhood priesthood
• The neighbourhood was extremely quiet and the priesthood was attractive
to many in this peaceful environment
I find it a great idea to help people with their English via the Internet. So my
question is: What's the difference (if any) between the adjectives ending in -less and
in -free (Is the chewing gum 'sugarless' or 'sugarfree'?)
In your particular example, chewing gum, breakfast cereal, or food in general can
often be described as 'sugarless' or 'sugarfree'. Whenever you form the adjective by
adding the suffix -less or -free, you are describing something as not having or not
affected by the thing mentioned. But I can only think of one other example (although
there must be more) where they can be used quite interchangeably in this way, as
in:
• 'This piece of work was quite error-free. It was an errorless piece of work.'
Normally, usage prescribes one OR the other. In the following examples, only one is
possible. Test your knowledge by using either less or -free in each example. Check
your answers with those below.
1. There are many home people sleeping rough on the streets of London.
2. The whole journey was trouble and we arrived at our destination on time.
3. There were so many duty goods in the airport shop that we just don't know
where to begin.
4. It was a completely meaning exercise and they made no progress in their
work.
5. When there is never any opportunity of being released, prisoners are power
6. The operating theatre was completely germ environment.
7. Some of the runners tired very quickly, but others among them appeared
quite tire
8. It is doubt the case that this prisoner will be extradited.
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Answers
homeless people
trouble-free journey
duty-free goods
meaningless exercise
powerless prisoners
germ-free environment
tireless runners
doubtless the case
Note that the suffix 'less' or '-free' is normally added to nouns to form the adjective.
In the penultimate example, it is added to the verb 'tire' and in the final example,
'doubt' can be viewed as either noun or verb.
What about 'careless' and 'carefree' you might ask. These are both possible. Indeed
they are, but note that they are not alternatives. They are quite different in meaning.
A 'careless person' is someone who does not take very much care over what he is
doing, whereas a 'carefree person' is someone who has no worries.
You will have noticed that the suffix '-free' is usually hyphenated and is a stressed
syllable (unlike 'less'). However, in two of the above examples, 'sugarfree' and
'carefree', there is normally no hyphen, at least in the examples I have seen.
A number of you (Kirill from Russia, Cintia from Brazil and Christine from Austria)
have been asking about accurate use of the prepositions on, at and in with time
and place phrases.
at for time
For clock times we use at, but not usually in the question:
What time are you leaving for Germany? ~ I shall try to leave at three o' clock.
on for time
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For days, dates and times like Sunday evening or Saturday morning, we use
on:
(Note that we write on 27th December, but we say on the 27th of December.)
in for time
For centuries, years, seasons, months, weeks, and for time phrases such as in
the afternoon, or in the evening we use in:
In the 17th Century, 200,000 people were executed in America for practising
witchcraft.
Brazil first won the World Cup in 1958 and then again in 1962, but in 1966 it was
England's turn.
I prefer to take my holidays in the spring and autumn and work in summer when
everybody else is on holiday.
I've got my final exams in May. When in May? In the final week of May.
I work best in the morning. I'll work again in the evening if I have to, but I prefer
to relax in the afternoon.
Note also subtle the difference in meaning between the expressions in time (which
means before a given time) and on time (which means exactly at that time):
I couldn't get there in time for the beginning of Jo's concert and missed the opening
number.
Note that usually no prepositions are used with time phrases beginning with next,
last, this, every, all, any:
What are you doing this afternoon? ~ I'm busy this afternoon, but we could do it
next week, if you like.
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I work from home every Thursday. I'm at home all afternoon tomorrow, so any
time would be convenient.
at for place
He failed to stop at the traffic lights and went through the light on red.
I was waiting for at least half an hour at the station, but no train came.
I never seem to have any money at the end of the month. ~ You shouldn't worry
about that - I never have any at the beginning of the month.
Have you seen my yellow T-shirt? ~ Yes, it's in the wardrobe ~ Whereabouts in
the wardrobe? ~ It's on the fourth shelf at the front. ~ Did you find it? ~ Yes, it
was on the bottom shelf at the back.
They have lots of family photographs on the walls on the landing, but no curtains
at any of the windows.
I'll meet you at the theatre. ~ Where exactly? ~ In the foyer at 7.15.
Javier Balsells from Spain asks: Why, when you are on the beach you walk in the
sand? But when you are in the street, you walk on foot? Is there any logical rule to
it?
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At, on and in are the main prepositions in English indicating position. And I think
there is some logic for the preference for one of them over the other two in given
situations, Javier.
Generally speaking:
In the first example, we imagine people at a certain point on their walk along the
beach; in the second example a group of children surrounded by sand and having
fun in the sand, and in the third example, older children or adults lying on top of the
sand, so on is most appropriate here.
1. In your example, Javier, of people walking in the sand, one imagines soft sand,
which their feet sometimes disappear into, but if you said on the sand, we would
imagine it as hard sand which their feet do not sink into. Both on and in are
therefore possible alternatives in this example.
• 'I saw it on BBC World, heard about it on the BBC World Service and then
read about it in the Guardian Weekly.'
3. In your example, Pilar, 'I will meet you at the bank' the precise location remains
vague to the reader. It could be anywhere inside or outside the bank, although the
two people who are arranging the meeting obviously know exactly where they are
going to meet and do not need to specify it further. Compare the following:
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In the first example, we imagine someone surveying the crowds from a distance and
in the second example the perspective is from inside the street.
I'm slightly confused whether to use the preposition at before home or not. I've
read the following sentence recently: I am likely to be late home this evening.
But as a rule in this situation we use the preposition at before home. Is the above
sentence wrong?
Home / at home
Your sentence is fine, Ilham. Home in your example is behaving like an adverb
expressing direction. We do not need a preposition with home when it is used with
any verb referring to direction:
Note that most verbs expressing direction require the preposition to before the noun,
but not home. Compare the following:
Once you arrive home, you are then at home and no more direction is suggested,
so at is then the appropriate preposition to use with home:
• Will you be at home tonight or are you going out? ~ No, I'll be at home. ~
I'll pop round and see you then.
Note that there are a number of common fixed expressions with prepositions
involving everyday time and place nouns where no article is required:
after school / at school / before school / from school /in school to school
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after work / at work/ before work / from work / to/into work /leave work
• More and more people work from home these days at least one or two days
per week.
• I'm going into town this afternoon. Do you want me to get you anything?
• I find it difficult to get out of bed, but always exercise for half an hour
before breakfast, have fruit juice and muesli for breakfast and then walk
to work.
• It's quicker on foot or by bike. It will take you ages to get there if you go by
car.
However, if you are referring to a specified breakfast, bed, school, piece of work etc,
the definite article will normally be required:
Could you please tell me the difference (in use) between because, as, since and
for. I think it's very confusing.
The present perfect is often used with since and for to denote periods of time up to
the present. (Note that we do not use present perfect with expressions that refer to
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a time period that has finished, i.e. 'last week' or 'the day before yesterday'. Here
the simple past is used: 'I went to the cinema three times last week.')
If you use since with the present perfect or present perfect continuous, you are
signalling when something started. If you use for, you are signalling how long
something has been going on. Compare:
Because is used when the reason is the most important part of the sentence or
utterance. The because clause usually comes at the end:
• 'I went to Spain last summer because I wanted the guarantee of sunshine on
every day of my holiday.'
As and since are used when the reason is already well known and is therefore
usually less important. The as or since clause is usually placed at the beginning of
the sentence:
• 'As the performance had already started, we went up to the balcony and
occupied some empty seats there.'
• 'Since John had already eaten, I made do with a sandwich.'
For suggests that the reason is given as an afterthought. It is never placed at the
beginning of the sentence and is more characteristic of written, rather than spoken
English:
• 'I decided to stop the work I was doing - for it was very late and I wanted to
go to bed.'
I am completely confused by the following relationship terms. Would you please give
me a precise explanation and some proper examples? Are they the same or similar in
meaning and in use?
1. in relation to / with relation to
2. with regard to / regarding
3. in connection with
4. concerning
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They are very similar in meaning and use. The key issue, as you suggest, is to know
when and how to use them.
Such discourse markers will often be found at the beginning of a sentence. They are
all fairly formal in tone and characteristic of formal or written discourse.
For an example, let us eavesdrop on this business meeting. The personnel manager
of a company is responding to questions from members of staff.
• 'There are two major issues on today's agenda which we should move on to
before lunch. One is the question of non-taxable allowances and the other is
bonus or productivity payments. Now, with regard to/in connection with/
concerning the former, the position of this organisation is quite clear...'
You could also add 'with reference to' as a further alternative and this would
perhaps be most formal of all. This expression is frequently used at the beginning of
business letters:
• 'Dear Ms Irvine,
Note that expressions like as far as... is/am/are concerned and as regards link
discourse in a similar way, but these are slightly less formal and more characteristic
of spoken discourse:
• 'As far as we were concerned, there was no point in remaining at the site
any longer.'
• 'As far as I'm concerned, you can go to Italy for Christmas. I shall be quite
happy here at home.'
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• 'There was much discussion in Parliament concerning the admission of
homosexuals to the armed forces.'
First of all, to make the difference between 'under' and 'below'. Both of these words
can mean 'in a lower position than', so there's a sense in which they mean the same
thing. But we use them sometimes in different circumstances, for example, if you're
talking about something being covered by something, we use 'under'. So, 'I hid the
key under a rock'. Or, 'officials said there was nothing under President Bush's jacket'.
You use 'below' when you're talking about something that's not physically
immediately under, or not necessarily immediately under. So you say, 'below the
surface of the water'. That might be anywhere below the surface of the water, not
necessarily just touching it. Or, 'twenty miles below the earth's surface', definitely
not immediately under it. And, by extension, we say things like, 'below the poverty
line'.
We also use 'under' when we're talking about 'younger than' or 'less than'. So, 'under
a dozen times', 'under the age of ten'. Whereas we use 'below', if we're visualising a
kind of vertical scale. So, 'below sea level', 'below average', 'an IQ below 80', 'radio
waves below 22 kHz'.
There are a number of fixed expressions, so, for example, a lot of expressions about
what's happening while something else is going on, or because of certain conditions,
or controlled by something or someone. So we say, 'under construction', 'under fire',
'under attack', 'under arrest', 'under these conditions', 'under scrutiny', 'under
pressure', 'under the Ceausescu regime'. All of those form a kind of a family.
So what about 'beneath'? Well, 'beneath' is basically more literal, or formal, and we
use it in many of the same senses. But there are lots of fixed phrases, and so what
you want to do is just read a lot and note when one is used and when the other is
used. I hope those will give you some general guide lines, and that you'll enjoy
keeping learning about these three fascinating words.
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The First World War ended at 11 a.m. ...... the eleventh day ....... the
eleventh month in 1918.
• The First World War ended at 11 a.m. on the eleventh day of the eleventh
month in 1918.
at / around / about / by
We use at when we are discussing precise times, weekends and public holidays:
• What time does your train get in? ~ It gets in at five twenty five.
• Let's meet at Waterloo Station at the end of platform one at five thirty.
• What are you doing at the weekend?
~ I'm going to see my parents at Easter, but I've got no plans for next
weekend.
We use by to indicate at or before, not later than. It can also suggest progression
up to a certain time:
• You must be here by / not later than 10.45 if we want to catch the eleven o'
clock train.
• By the time I arrived home, both children were in bed and asleep.
on
Note that we can write dates as 29th February 2002 or 29 February 2002. In
formal letters it is usually the latter. When we are speaking though we usually say:
the 29th of February 2002.
till / until
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Both till and until mean up to the time indicated or up to the time when. Note that
they can both be used as conjunctions introducing clauses as well as prepositions
introducing time phrases:
in
• I'm happy to work in the morning, but I always have a snooze in the
afternoon.
• I don't mind working in the evening, but I hate to get up in the night.
• These fox cubs were born in the spring. ~ In April or May? ~ I'm not sure. In
April, I think.
• They'll be ready to leave home and fend for themselves in about three weeks
from now.
during
We can use during when we are discussing something happening between the
beginning and end of an activity:
zero preposition
Note that there are some time expressions, typically involving all, some, any, each,
every, this, that, last, next, where no preposition is needed:
• The last time we met was at Sheila's birthday. Try not to leave it so long
next time.
• Where were you last Tuesday?
~ Sorry, I was out, but I'll be in all this week. Feel free to call any evening.
• How often do you text message your sister?
~ Every day. Sometimes twice a day.
This week we have two questions about the use of prepositions to indicate time.
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Phoebe Chiang from Taiwan writes:
We use in for longer periods of time. We also say: 'in the morning', 'in the
afternoon' and 'in the night'. Why can't we say: 'in the noon' or 'in the midnight'?
We use at to specify a particular point in time. Both noon and midnight are very
short periods. When the clock strikes twelve, it will be midnight. We would therefore
say: at midnight or at noon. Consider these further examples:
Note that although both Christmas and Easter last for a few days, we prefer to think
of them as a particular point in time and therefore use at when referring to them. 'At
the weekend' follows a similar pattern, though Americans would say 'on the
weekend.'
As you rightly say, Phoebe, we use in to specify periods of time, parts of the day,
morning, afternoon, evening, or for longer periods altogether. Consider the following
examples:
• 'My dad prefers to work in the morning. He's too tired to work in the
evening.'
• 'My granny always has a cup of tea at four o' clock in the afternoon.'
• 'I can't take my holiday in the summer, so I'll take it sometime in the
autumn.'
• 'Our first child was born in 1996, so he'll be five years old in June.'
We also use in to describe how much time will pass before something happens or to
talk about how long something took or takes. Consider the following:
We use on, Marta, to refer to particular days and dates, even repeated ones when
plural forms are used. Consider the following:
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• 'Could we meet on Sunday morning?' 'No, not on Sunday. I go to church on
Sundays.'
• 'Why don't we have the meeting sometime in the afternoon on Thursday 5th
April?'
• 'It's my birthday on 22nd April, so I'll ring you on 23rd.'
Note that when we specify dates in writing, we will tend to write them in one of the
following styles:
However, when we are speaking those dates, we will normally insert the definite
article and the preposition of, as follows: I'm leaving for Paris on the twenty ninth of
December. I'm leaving for Paris on December the twenty ninth.
At/in/on are not normally used with time phrases starting with next, last, this,
that, every, some, all. Consider the following:
• 'Last year I made a cake for Jenny's birthday, but this year I'm going to buy
one.'
• 'Are you free this morning? If not, I'll see you next week.'
• 'I'm at home all day tomorrow, so come round (at) any time.'
Finally, note that prepositions are often omitted from time questions starting with
What...? or Which…? Look at the following examples:
I have noticed that in the news to determine the day of some event they say:
It happened Friday...
Do I mishear them or it it not possible to use on before the name of the day?
on
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We do sometimes omit on in time expressions in informal English, although I think it
is more characteristic of American English than British English. So in your first
example, Anid, both versions are possible. Compare the following:
Note that if we say: I’ll see you next Sunday week rather than I’ll see you
Sunday next week, it is not the following Sunday that is intended, but the one
after that!
For your example of a time expression with the past tense, I think we would
normally use one of the following formulations:
Note the pitfalls when using next and last. We rarely use prepositions with time
expressions involving next and last And there is a big difference in meaning and use
between next and the next and last and the last. Compare the following:
• I shall be working for the next week and then I shall be on holiday. ( =
starting now for the next five or seven days)
• I shall do some work next week before I go on holiday. ( = some work, but
not every day)
• I’m going to have driving lessons next year. ( = at some point during the
year)
• For the next twelve months I shall be in Birmingham on a post-graduate
course. ( = all 12 months, starting now)
• The last year has been hell! First the divorce, then I lost my job! ( = all 12
months up till now)
• I got divorced last year and I plan to remarry this year. ( = at some point
during the year)
• I’ve had diarrhea for the last week, doctor. Can you give me something for
it?
• I had diarrhea last week. Couldn’t eat anything for three days.
Note prepositional use and the use of the present perfect and past simple tenses in
the above examples.
'this' or 'next'?
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Finally, we sometimes need to clarify which date we are referring to if it is in the
immediate future by using on or this instead of next. Compare the following:
• Let me see. It’s Wednesday now so I’ll give you a ring next Friday.
• ~ Do you mean this coming Friday or the following one?
• ~ No, no, this coming Friday. I’ll ring you this Friday. I’ll phone you on
Friday.
We could turn the passive sentence into an active sentence if we wanted to use from
and say:
But for all passive clauses we need to use by when introducing the person or thing
responsible for the action:
The only exception to this is when we are talking about the tools used for the
operation rather than the agent bringing about the action.
When we talk about the tools used for an action we say with rather then by.
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• The palace was built by a famous architect.
by or near?
For example:
• Our house is quite close to the sea, but I would really like to live right by the
sea.
• Are you going to deliver that parcel by hand, or will you send it by post?
• Do you want to pay for this in cash, by cheque or by credit card?
• You can get there by air, by road, by rail or by sea, but however you
travel, I’m sure you’ll enjoy it.
• I have learnt this piece by heart and don’t need to have the music in front of
me.
from or since?
The preposition from indicates the starting point of an action. It is often used with
to or till which indicates the finishing time of the action:
• I normally work from nine to five, sometimes from ten till six.
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• You can drop by at any time during the afternoon. I shall be here from two
onwards.
• From now on you must wear a suit and a tie whenever you go to the office.
Note that since is used with the present perfect or past perfect tense to indicate the
starting point of the action. With other tenses we normally use from.
• The office is open from eight o’ clock, but I don’t usually arrive before nine.
• I have been working on the project since the beginning of September and
hope to finish it by the end of October.
They are similar in meaning, yes. They all serve to record something that is
surprising or unexpected. But the difference in usage is that although, though and
even though are all conjunctions, whilst in spite of and despite are both
prepositions. So usage requires:
in spite of + noun
although + clause
despite + noun
though + clause
even though + clause
Although and though can be used in the same way. Though is perhaps more
common in informal speech and writing, whereas although can be used in a wide
variety of styles. Compare:
• 'Our new neighbours are quite nice, though their dog is a bit of a nuisance.'
• 'She insisted on keeping her coat on, although it was extremely warm in the
house as the central heating was on.'
• 'Although she was commended for completing the Millennium Dome project
on time and within budget, management felt that it was now time for a new
person with different talents to take over.'
• 'I managed to get good results in my exams, even though I went out four
times a week when I was supposed to be revising.'
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Whilst despite might be thought more formal than in spite of - it is, after all, one
word rather than three - there is really very little difference in usage between the
two:
• 'Despite the appalling weather, they succeeded in walking to the top of Ben
Nevis.'
• 'They decided to get married in spite of the huge differences in their ages.'
So, to summarise: despite and although: similar meanings, but different syntax
required. Compare:
One further word. Although, despite and in spite of are normally used as
prepositions, they can also be used in adverbial constructions with -ing, thus:
• 'I managed to pass my exams, despite going out four times a week during the
revision period.'
• 'In spite of feeling terribly sick, I went to work every day that week.'
• 'Despite being severely handicapped, he managed to complete the race.'
I'd like to know the differences in use between during and for.
I can't distinguish the uses of until and by when referring to time. Please help me.
during
We use during to talk about something that happens at one point within a period of
time or to talk about an event that continues throughout a whole period of time.
Compare the following:
• I sometimes wake up during the night and then I can't go back to sleep
again.
I cried during the performance. It was such a sad play.
• During the school holiday period in the summer all the campsites are full.
During wars food is often rationed.
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When we are referring to a whole period of time, we sometimes use throughout as
an alternative to during for emphasis:
• Sugar and cheese continued to be rationed throughout the post war period.
• These hotels are usually fully booked throughout the summer season.
• I sometimes wake up in the night and can't get back to sleep again.
• In my fours years as head of this company I have only taken a holiday once.
If the activity continues for a period of time, we sometimes use over instead of
during to describe the specified period:
• Over the last few days, weather conditions have been steadily improving and
a rescue now seems possible
• I don't intend to do very much over the summer - just relax!
for
During tells us about the period when something happens. For tells us how long it
continues or lasts:
• I was ill for three days during my holiday and couldn't go out at all.
• I'll pop in and see you for a few minutes at some point during the afternoon.
• I've been working for this company for twenty five years.
Take care not to confuse for with since. Since is also used to measure the duration of
an activity, but it describes the starting point up to a given time and is most often
associated with present perfect and past perfect tenses:
• I've been working for the BBC for a long time - since 1978.
• As you get older, it becomes more and more difficult to make friends.
• We haven't seen much of him since his marriage to Julie last summer.
Note from the above examples that for is used with a wider variety of tenses than
since.
until
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• We don't need to be at the stadium until the first race is over so we don't
need to leave home till eleven o' clock.
by
You are quite right, Serj. We use for as a preposition when we are talking about a
period of time:
We don't know exactly when it was and I don't know how old your brother is but it
might have been in the 90s, the 80s or the 70s or even earlier and it lasted for two
or three years.
For can be used to describe a period of time in the past, present or future:
• The English course that I'm attending lasts for three months.
• Then I shall be on holiday in Dublin for five days.
Last year I went to Australia and stayed for six weeks.
However, if you use for with the present perfect or present perfect continuous tense,
it indicates a period of time which started in the past and continues up to the present
time:
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• My sister has worked as a vet for fifteen years now - since 1987.
• Those oak trees have been standing in Greenwich Park for centuries - since
the 18th Century, I think.
Note that since is used to indicate the starting point of the action and for measures
the period of time up to the present.
We also use during as a preposition when we are talking about a period of time, but
the meaning is different. During means (at some point) in the course of. Compare
the following:
• I saw not one duck on the lake during the whole of last summer.
• I don't know when exactly but he must have left during the night.
• I expect he'll phone me at some stage during next week.
• It must have rained here during the last fortnight as the ground is quite
soft and damp.
Remember the difference by thinking that during tells us when something happens,
for tells us how long it lasts.
During does not work in your original sentence, Serj, because it introduces a
subordinate clause starting with when or that and the sentence is incomplete. There
is no main clause.
If we add a main clause, the sentence will be complete and grammatically correct.
• During those years (when / that) my brother was working in the factory, I
was studying at university.
Note that we can replace during…when or during…that with the conjunction while:
Very often I confuse the uses of to and for when I want to express the idea of
purpose. When should I use for and when must I use to?
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To talk about the purpose of an action, we use a for + noun construction or a to +
infinitive structure. Compare the following:
We stopped off at the Goose for a drink and then we carried on to embassy for
dinner.
I’m going to Brussels next week for an interview. I hope to work for the UN.
Do you want to have a drink at the Goose before we go on to dine with the
ambassador?
I’ve come to Dublin to attend a seminar and to meet the new members of the
faculty. But now I’m leaving for Rome.
for + -ing
What…for?
Note that What…for? can be used in questions to talk about the purpose of both
actions and things:
Note that the same constructions, for + noun and for + -ing, are used with thank,
apologise and be / feel sorry: With be / feel sorry a to + infinitive structure is
also possible. Compare the following:
South Western trains would like to apologise for the late arrival of this train and
for the inconvenience this may cause you.
He really should apologise for spitting in his face. That sort of behaviour is
unacceptable, even on a football field.
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- I feel sorry for the cleaners.
- I feel sorry for them too. They’ve got the thankless task of cleaning up all this
mess.
Note also the way in which the for + -ing construction is used to explain the reasons
for the following actions:
Note that to + infinitive is one of the most common ways of expressing purpose.
When we want to be explicit or sound more formal we can also use in order to or so
as to. This structures are especially common before negative infinitives, in order
not to and so as not to:
Would you be good enough to explain to me what is the difference between these
prepositional phrases: good at and good in?
• 'He was the best in the class in French, but in mathematics and chemistry he
was not so good.'
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This is perhaps because with other expressions or verbs denoting assessment or
ranking, the preposition in would be required, thus:
I would like to know the difference in use between in front of, before and across.
Before is not normally used to refer to place. We normally use in front of to specify
place the opposite of which is behind. Compare the following:
• I was waiting patiently in the queue. In front of me there were about two
hundred people and behind me a further three hundred.
• Your brother arrived at the church shortly after three, but I distinctly
remember saying to everyone: "You must be in your seats at or before three
o' clock".
• Excuse me, I was here before you. I should therefore be in front of you in
the queue.
• I was accused of dangerous driving but rather than pay the fine, I elected to
appear before the local magistrates.
Note that in these last two examples before means facing and not one behind the
other.
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Before (conjunction or adverb)
• Give me a ring to let me know you are on your way before you leave the
house.
• Make sure you get to the church before the bride arrives.
• Before she married Maurice, she went out with Austin for a couple of
years.
• He was certain we had met before, but I was equally sure we hadn't, for I
had never been there before.
• Within two minutes of it starting, I realized that I'd seen this film before.
Across (preposition)
In American English, across from as in across the road from me or across the
table from me is expressed in British English by the prepositions opposite or
facing:
• She sat facing me across the table. (She sat across the table from me.)
• They live directly opposite us in the green house. (They live across the road
from us in the green house.)
In British English, across means from one side to the other, expressing
movement, or on the other side of an imaginary line, expressing position:
• My older sister lives just across the road, but Jenny, my baby sister, lives
right across the city, 60 minutes by Tube or two hours in the car.
• Rather than walk twenty miles to the nearest bridge, we decided to swim
across the fast-flowing river, unaware of the dangerous currents.
Across or through?
Note the difference in use between across and through. Across suggests flat or
open space, whereas through suggests a space which is closed with things on
all sides:
• Although it was dark, I was not afraid of walking home through the forest.
• The ice was quite thick and he experienced no difficulty in skating right
across the lake.
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'like' as verb and preposition
Could you please tell me the difference between like as a verb and as a preposition?
like
Like as a verb is used mainly to talk about enjoyment, preferences and habits. It is
perhaps not quite as strong in emotional terms as love, or be fond of or be keen
on. Compare the following:
• Do you like cross-country skiing? ~ Yeah, I quite like it now, but I still prefer
downhill.
• When I’m making a cold drink, I always like to put the ice and slices of lemon
in first.
• How did you like the pumpkin soup? ~ Oh, I liked it very much.
• I’ve got blackcurrant mousse for desert. Do you like blackcurrants? ~ Oh, I
love them.
• He’s a very kind person. I like him very much, but I could never go out with
him.
• I’m a very social person but I don’t like people following me around all the
time.
Note that like is not normally used in the progressive form and cannot normally be
used without an object:
• What do you think of the conversation classes? ~ I like them. (NOT: I’m
liking them.)
• Do you like garage music? ~ Yes, I do. OR: Yes, I like it. (NOT: Yes, I like.)
Take care not to confuse like with would like to. They have quite different
meanings. Compare the following and note the structural differences when using
them:
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Note that when used for requests and suggestions, would like to sometimes sounds
slightly more polite than want to.
like as preposition
• When she's on stage, she looks a bit like Britney, but she sounds more like
Madonna.
• Like you, I prefer to eat my breakfast in the morning without engaging in
small talk.
• It was only five o' clock, but it seemed like the middle of the night, it was
so dark.
• These plants grow very well in hot countries, like Costa
Rica and Venezuela.
• What's Bournemouth like as a seaside town? ~ It's a little bit like
Brighton. Quite lively!
When should we use 'made of' and when should we use 'made from'? Do they have
different meanings?
Hi Pavel, thanks for your question. Actually, a student asked me the same question
in class a couple of weeks ago - and just like you, I was a bit puzzled by this; I
couldn't immediately work out what the rule was. But I talked it over with my
colleagues ? the other teachers in the Teacher's Room - and eventually, we realised
that this rule is really quite simple.
So, if you think about the first group of examples, you'll notice that there's a
common theme - a common pattern.
The cotton in the shirt is still cotton - it hasn't changed its form and become
something else. In the same way, the bricks in the walls of the house - they're still
bricks. They didn't stop being bricks when the house was made.
And the plastic in my computer keyboard is still plastic.
So we say:
"The shirt is made of cotton."
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"The house is made of bricks."
"The keyboard is made of plastic."
And if we say:
"Wine is made from grapes."
The grapes are no longer grapes - they've been changed into a different type of stuff
- a different type of substance - in this case, wine.
And the flour and the eggs and the sugar in the example about the cake; these have
all changed their forms as well when they became cake.
What is the difference between 'I will meet you' and 'I will meet with you'?
Yes - well, firstly, well done Mustafa, well done for being really up-to-date, because
of course 'I will meet with you' -- that 'with' there is a recent form, certainly in
British English. It comes from American English, but I think in American English too,
it's a fairly recent form.
There is a difference: I will meet you or I'll meet you, could mean all kinds of things.
It could mean that we're going to have a meeting, and we're going to do some work
together; but it could simply mean that's where we're going to see each other, and
we're going to go and do something else afterwards.
'I will meet with you' does imply a number of things: it implies that it's quite formal;
it implies that it's very professional reasons and it implies that somehow, we're going
to collaborate on something ...and that it will go on for quite a long time.
I'll meet you is much more common. Personally, I love these new expression, and I
use 'I'll meet with you' at every opportunity. However conservative people very often
dislike, and disapprove of, these new expressions which come into the language -
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and so I tend to be a little bit careful about who I'm talking to when I use
expressions like this. I love it!
Are there any other expressions that mean more or less the same thing? Are
there any more colloquial expressions that people use to meet up with
somebody else, with their friends?
Well, it's not to meet up with their friends, but I think it's relevant. We often say 'I'll
meet you halfway'.
And if you meet somebody halfway, it's got nothing to do with actually meeting, it's
got to do with negotiating. So, you want something, and I want something else -
then we can either fall out and do nothing, or we can both compromise and find a
solution which involves both of us getting some of what we want, and not getting
some of what we want - and in that case, what we talk about is meeting somebody
halfway: 'I'll meet you halfway'.
Of course, we talk about meeting up, and that's a very common expression: in fact
it's what we call a phrasal verb, but you can meet up, or you can meet up with
somebody - that's always for social reasons and it involves getting together, usually
then to do something else, and it may involve not two people, but a large group of
people. So, at the end of an evening of doing something socially, somebody might
say ‘when are we going to meet up again’?
To 'hook up'
If you hook up with somebody you meet them. It's very colloquial. Usually young
professional people use this, people in their twenties, professional people, who lead a
very busy life. They don't have very much time to spend with anyone, and they say
'oh, I'll hook up with you sometime' - meaning getting into contact for a quick
conversation which has some definite purpose. They will then move on and hook up
with somebody else.
To get in touch
We often use the expression 'to get in touch with someone'. Now, that very often
doesn't involve touching, or even seeing. It's very often a letter, or an e-mail, or a
phone call, or a text message - but that has the sense of contacting somebody who
you haven't had contact with for quite some time. Christmas in this part of the world
of course is where we tend to get in touch with people that we don't see regularly
and that just means sending them a card and it's really to let them know that we're
still there - and thinking of them. Martin Parrott answers:
Yes - well, firstly, well done Mustafa, well done for being really up-to-date, because
of course 'I will meet with you' -- that 'with' there is a recent form, certainly in
British English. It comes from American English, but I think in American English too,
it's a fairly recent form.
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There is a difference: I will meet you or I'll meet you, could mean all kinds of things.
It could mean that we're going to have a meeting, and we're going to do some work
together; but it could simply mean that's where we're going to see each other, and
we're going to go and do something else afterwards.
'I will meet with you' does imply a number of things: it implies that it's quite formal;
it implies that it's very professional reasons and it implies that somehow, we're going
to collaborate on something ...and that it will go on for quite a long time.
I'll meet you is much more common. Personally, I love these new expression, and I
use 'I'll meet with you' at every opportunity. However conservative people very often
dislike, and disapprove of, these new expressions which come into the language -
and so I tend to be a little bit careful about who I'm talking to when I use
expressions like this. I love it!
Are there any other expressions that mean more or less the same thing? Are
there any more colloquial expressions that people use to meet up with
somebody else, with their friends?
Well, it's not to meet up with their friends, but I think it's relevant. We often say 'I'll
meet you halfway'.
And if you meet somebody halfway, it's got nothing to do with actually meeting, it's
got to do with negotiating. So, you want something, and I want something else -
then we can either fall out and do nothing, or we can both compromise and find a
solution which involves both of us getting some of what we want, and not getting
some of what we want - and in that case, what we talk about is meeting somebody
halfway: 'I'll meet you halfway'.
Of course, we talk about meeting up, and that's a very common expression: in fact
it's what we call a phrasal verb, but you can meet up, or you can meet up with
somebody - that's always for social reasons and it involves getting together, usually
then to do something else, and it may involve not two people, but a large group of
people. So, at the end of an evening of doing something socially, somebody might
say ‘when are we going to meet up again’?
To 'hook up'
If you hook up with somebody you meet them. It's very colloquial. Usually young
professional people use this, people in their twenties, professional people, who lead a
very busy life. They don't have very much time to spend with anyone, and they say
'oh, I'll hook up with you sometime' - meaning getting into contact for a quick
conversation which has some definite purpose. They will then move on and hook up
with somebody else.
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To get in touch
We often use the expression 'to get in touch with someone'. Now, that very often
doesn't involve touching, or even seeing. It's very often a letter, or an e-mail, or a
phone call, or a text message - but that has the sense of contacting somebody who
you haven't had contact with for quite some time. Christmas in this part of the world
of course is where we tend to get in touch with people that we don't see regularly
and that just means sending them a card and it's really to let them know that we're
still there - and thinking of them.
on/off
I understand these sentences, but I'm not sure how to use the word off in examples
like these. Could you please explain this usage of this word?
off / on as prepositions
• We live just off The Avenue. Drive along The Avenue almost to the end and
then turn off to the right into a little cul-de-sac.
• The Inner and Outer Hebrides are situated off the Western coast of Scotland.
• Did she jump off or fall off the cliff or did someone push her off? ~ Nobody
knows!
• I'm off alcohol just now. A big celebration last Sunday. And it's put me off
my food too.
• I think this crab pate has gone off, you know. It doesn't taste fresh any
more.
• Have you heard? There's 20 % off all CDs at the music shop in Elm Street
next Friday.
• You don't have to keep off the grass in this park. You can walk anywhere on
the grass.
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In your second sentence, Tamas, off describes time that is taken off work or off
school typically because of illness, tiredness or holiday arrangements. Note that we
do not need to say off from. One preposition, off, is enough here:
• We're getting two extra days off school at the beginning of June for the
Queen's Jubilee.
• I shall have to have a day off soon. I can't keep going like this all the time.
~ Why don't you take the afternoon off today?
We also speak about people being off-balance, off-colour, off-duty, doing things
on the off-chance and having off days:
There are many common phrasal verbs with off, such as put off (= postpone),
knock off (finish work), lay off (dismiss from work, usually temporarily), bring
something off (complete something successfully), polish off (eat something
quickly):
• I've been putting it off for weeks, but it's no good, I shall have to go to the
dentists soon.
• Aren't you going to knock off soon? You've been staring into that computer
screen all day.
• 700 workers will be laid off in the Belfast shipyards following a decline in
orders.
• They had a wonderful time. I didn't think you'd be able to bring it off.
• I thought the Christmas cake would hang around for weeks, but they soon
polished it off.
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I'm thinking of a tropical beach, please don't interrupt me! I mean I'm imagining it or
daydreaming about it. However, a sentence like 'they're thinking about whether to
agree to the sale,' means they're considering the sale. In these cases, it's just
natural usage patterns that tend to favour one form over another
But when we are talking about people, we often tend to use them both in a similar
way: For example, if my friend had an accident and went to hospital, I might send a
card and some flowers with a message which could either read: 'I'm thinking of you,'
or 'I'm thinking about you', and the meaning wouldn't be significantly different.
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