Opportunity Knocks Again

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread519570/pg1

Topic started on 15-11-2009 @ 02:03 PM by Illuminator13

I am one with access to the knowledge of The Bloodlines who you believe
are "Evil" and whose actions you disapprove of. I have chosen to come here
to answer the questions you may have, all you have to do is follow The
Rules and ask.
The Rules:
1.) I am under NO obligation to answer every question asked (and in some
instances I could not even if I wanted to).
2.) Think before you ask your question. I will only be here for a very
brief period of time, so I suggest you ask only important questions. Use
your Intelligence, Intuitiveness, Courtesy and Creativeness when asking a
question. Use your mind and heart to break free from that box that you
have been placed in.
3.) Ask specific questions. I am bound by a few Laws that I would rather
not break by accident, so if I feel your question is very general, it may
be ignored.
4.) Respect me and my decisions, as I will be awarding you the same
respect. Please do not post crass, pointless, futile, insensible or
disrespectful questions and/or comments.
Adhere to these four simple rules and this may prove to be an insightful
and enlightening experience. Disregard them and I may choose to disappear.
Now, with those preliminary rules in mind, feel free to post your
questions.

Q: Well here's mine, what do you expect to achieve with your post here?

A: I hope to clear up some misinterpretations and misunderstandings.

Alot of nonsense floating around these days, its counterproductive to why
you are here.

Q: Ok i will play along, just for show, whether you are or not.
1) What books do you think we should read to understand the
spiritual side of the so called elite?
2) Why do you feel you have to come here at all, to justify or what
ever reason, the elite, at all?

A: 1.) None, it is not your goal to understand anything outside of who

you are and why you are here.
2.) I have not come her to "justify" anything that is because
everything is as it is for a reason, whether or not you believe it to be
so.

Q: Does anyone you know have telekinesis? What is your current belief
on the structure of the universe? What is your belief for the origin of
life in the universe and this planet?

A: 1.) No. Telekinesis is possible though, but most likely you will not
ever know anyone who can do it.
2&3.) What I believe does not matter.

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Q: I see you breezed though your 20 posts which are all one liners of
no value.
Your one line posts break the rules here and also show that you really
have nothing to contribute to this board but nonsense.
I think the mods should toss you.

A: 1.) Those 20 posts were just a formality for me to post this thread.
This is my first time on this website and I had no idea I would be
required to post 20 messages. My lengthy responces will come on this
thread. I do have the luxury of time to post 20 in depth responses to
other topics. Plus most of the things on this on this site are nonsense
anyway, although I did see a few with some merit.
2.) Well if you think that, then I am glad you are not a moderator.

Q: We should phrase that as: To the op, why should we take you
seriously?
Can you explain to me how the Rothschild claims a direct bloodline?

A: Whether or not you take me seriously is really none of my concern.

Ignore this thread if you wish, I could careless. I will answer the
questions of those who ask and will not solicit anything. When my time is
up I will leave regardless of how many questions I have answered.
I have never heard of such a thing, but if it is true it does not
override the reality of the situation: The Rothschilds are not Bloodline.

Q: Ok, since you brought up "bloodlines", what could you tell us about
them and why do they think they are so "special"? (This feels alot like
talking to the CleverBot, doesn’t it?!)

A: I can tell you that the Bloodlines are here to help you and special
is not the correct word, duty is.

Q: “Ask specific questions. I am bound by a few Laws that I would

rather not break by accident, so if I feel your question is very general,
it may be ignored.”
If that's the case, I'm almost positive you're breaking a major one
by even posting this... Color me skeptical...

A: I broke nothing. I simply made a request. Whether or not you choose

to adhere to it is your choice alone

Q: You say that most of the subjects here are "nonsense". Which
subjects hold merit?

A: All the ones that portain to "Alien Invasion", "2012 Apocalypse",

"Swine Flu" and the like. Most others are completely irrelevant to your
lives personally.

Q: I got a question... Are you as fake as the other 1000+ posts "just
like this one here" where someone comes and explains they are "from the
secret societies at hand" or "the Illuminati"?
My second question is...would you roll your eyes at what you wrote
thus far, if you were not who you claim to be?
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A: I never claimed to be from the Illuminati (Which has less power than
you think)

Q: Ok, this is important!... What if we don't want your help?! Are we

going to be forced to accept this "help"?

A: I won’t force anything. Forcing would be me just posting unsolicited

answers or answering questions that were not asked. If you do not ask, I
do not answer.

Q: “I could careless.” The actual phrase is "I couldn't care

less"...meaning, you care absolutely the lowest factor of caring possible.
I mean...I could point to more of your "1st grade-type" flaws in your
communication attempts...but I am far more interested in seeing you prove
yourself to be what you say you are, then I am to continue nitpicking on
your misuse of English.
And before you point towards my grammatical errors, just remember I
am not the guy saying "I am of the sacred bloodlines that control the
world".
Man... you are way too easy to debunk. TRY HARDER! I demand a better
Illuminati then this.

A: My spelling has little to do with anything. The Human "mind" can

decipher what I mean to say even if I only typed the first and last
letters correctly. I am trying to answer as many questions as possible.
As for your "debunking" me, think as you wish. If you do not like
this topic and have no questions to ask, simply go elsewhere. There is no
reason for you beng hostile towards me, because I am not hostile towards
you.

Q: So how accurate is the law of one? And you are saying our purpose is
to learn our (self) purpose and everything else is a distraction? Does
every person play an equal role in this world or is one person’s purpose
more important then the other? Is the method of finding answers to look
inside your self? (for answers)
If each of us does have specific things we are supposed to learn or
be concerned with would you consider modern technological society as a big
distraction that is leading us to failure? (Because of the memes spread
for example)
Was Edgar Cayce a charlatan? Did his heavy Catholicism muddle up his
message?
I'll see how these are answered before I ask some "real" questions

A: I would not read the Law of One or any other spiritual writings if I
were you, no matter what was "recommended to you". In the earlier part of
his dialogue "Hidden Hand" made grave errors in what he told you, he
"talked too much".

Q: 1) Do you believe that you where reincarnated, and that you lived on
this planet before?
2) Why do you think you are part of a family that has a "duty" to
run society? Why does your family think they where given this duty?

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A: 1.) No and I am a rarity.
2.) You are asking the wrong questions.

Q: First contradiction everyone! Don't bother asking unless you just

want to toy with him more
"Aliens" are not a threat to you. Besides that your governments are
the ones who do most of the abductions."
^^^^ what he said
NO threat to us BUT we must pay attention to the alien invasion
threads. Basic inconsistency no need to look any further people move along

A: What part of the "20" post formality did you not understand? This
was a post to which I thought I could tell you otherwise. No "alien"
invasion is going to happen, why? Because "Aliens" are not a threat to you
nor do they wish to invade you. Contradiction? Nope.
Like I stated before do not pay attention to Alien Invasion threads,
they are not true and are not useful to you in any way, shape or form.

Q: So what are the bloodlines planning on doing to help us, if they are
here to help us why not just come out and tell us? They have no reason to
hide if they are going to help us. Only reason to hide if the plan on
killing us.
Did the bloodline write the bible?
Why do you only have a short time here?

A: Thanks for asking the questions

1.) All you have to do is take an honest look around and see what
you are not.
2.) It doesnt work that way.
3rd statement- Post hoc logical fallacy.
4.) The Bible you have now is altered.

Q: Also, I would ask,"Do you believe in a Higher Power?" and if so,"Who

or what is that Higher Power?"

A: What I believe in does not matter.

Q: So, it is your Duty? Does that mean your/their bloodline is of an

alien/not of this world type? If it is your Duty, what is the entire realm
of such duties?

A: Ok, here is a good example of a misunderstanding. My duty is NOT the

same as the Bloodlines although we work towards the same end goal. They
work on the "negative" side of things and I work on the "positive" side of
things.. I have to tread carefully because I might say too much.

Q: You say that most of the subjects here are "nonsense". Which
subjects hold merit?
“All the ones that portain to "Alien Invasion", "2012 Apocalypse", "Swine
Flu" and the like. Most others are completely irrelavent to your lives
personally.”

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 Wait...so ALL POSTS that "portain" (you mean pertain, you incredibly
bad speller, you) to Alien invasions, 2012 end-of-the-world, Swine Flu AND
THE LIKE (like what?! Man...you suck at this), ARE ALL REAL!?
HAHAAHAHAH.
Dude...graduate from high school. If you can...and THEN return to
try and spam/scam us. O.k? Because the drivel you are spewing here makes
you look really (and I mean REALLY) dumb.
I am NOT saying you ARE dumb...just saying you LOOK UNEDUCATED in
more areas then just spelling.
Good to know that the sacred bloodlines of old have trusted
knowledge to you. They must have had a "pick from the bottom of the bucket
day" down at the old Illuminati club house.
Man o man...see you in skunkworks you horribly played hoaxer.

A: Not only can I see the negativity in your words, I can feel it also.
Such malicious and venom. What cause are you fighting for?
I am not a hoaxer.

Q: What bloodline are you referring to?

A: The ones you never hear about. The "true" bloodlines.

Q: I didn't mean You specifically "forcing" your help on us! I mean the
"help" that you said the "Bloodline" feels it is their duty to carry out?
The question was,"Will that help be forced on us?"
(Because, frankly, I don't need your help, or want it! I don't like anyone
other than God deciding what is in my best interest!)
Thanks anyway!

A: That is not your decision.

Q: Do you have any knowledge on the explicit use of hypnosis to

manipulate people? Keep in mind that this is a yes or no question... I
will ask this question again.

A: I'm sorry, I must have missed it. To answer your question, no.
Hypnosis as a tool of manipulation is not something I could recommend
anyone looking into. Does it work? Yes. Is it counterproductive to why you
are here? Yes. Is it really worth doing? No.

Q: “In the earlier part of his dialogue "Hidden Hand" made grave errors
in what he told you, he "talked too much".”
OOOOOH! I get it...more of this "hidden hand" guy.
Wow...thanks for showing me what this is all REALLY about.
Welcome back.
Enjoy playing with your computer. But don't stay up too late, you
have a big day in class tomorrow and we wouldn't want you forgetting your
lunchbox.

A: I am not "Hidden Hand" and I would never even dream of making the
mistakes that he did.

Q: 1) Do you believe that you where reincarnated, and that you lived on
this planet before?
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 2) Why do you think you are part of a family that has a "duty" to
run society? Why does your family think they where given this duty?

A: 1.) No and I am a rarity.

2.) You are asking the wrong questions.

Q: The problem we have is we do not know how far we can go into this
stuff, without you stopping answering. Who ever you are your very cryptic,
and that can mean plenty of things to us all here. You mentioned the word
"Duty". Can you define what you mean by that, without breaking any rules?
I think that’s the only thing you have said so far, it’s your duty. Just
simply what does "duty" mean to you and who ever your part off?

A: I understand what you mean. You have a right to be suspicious but I

am not the "enemy" and I am actually here to help you. I had no idea that
I would attract such negative and insulting comments by even coming here
but I will persevere through it.
By "duty" I mean it is a task bestowed by the Supreme One.
My "duty" is different from theres. I do not control, or even
attempt to manipulate anybody, its not why I am here. I am here to help
you realize why you are here.

Q: OK, so you didn't give me an answer....I know your trying to keep

up. It is getting a little heated here; many think you’re not the real
deal. Let's prove them wrong....can you give us any details that we don't
already know about the whole 2012 scenario?

A: Ok, heres a piece of golden advice: Do not concern yourself with

2012. As of now it is irrelavent and unimportant. You have better things
to be doing, so I suggest you go figure out what they are.

Q: come on people lets not get involved in all this, it ends up making
people look gullible and stupid, an exercise in futility.

A: Is wanting answers "gullible and stupid"? The only futile thing on

this thread is the negative comments, which are unnecessary, not to
mention just plain rude.

Q: Do you know what merit means? Did you use it wrong? Did your
bloodlines run to your head or something?

A: I did not come here to argue. If you really think I am a "waling

contradiction" leave, nobody is making you reply to this thread.

Q: I'm thinking that my response would lead you to say something

like,"Well, fine! I won't help you by answering your questions then!"
Would I be correct?

A: If you dont want MY help, fine I wont give it. But the Bloodlines
"help" is here regardless of whether or not you want it. Contradiction?
No.

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Q: Tread lightly friend, but give us a little more detail. How can you
say you can help if you don't at least put a little meat & potatoes on the
table?

A: Thank you for the encouragement. Believe me I am trying but the only
questions I am getting are questions about my answers. If you people would
ask some "real" questions, then I could answer, but right now I am getting
none of that. If you have a question you want me to answer, feel free to
ask it.

Q: So true, the only thing so far in this thread, is that he/she has a
duty, and that’s all they said, lol. Anyone can be cryptic in answering
questions, though contradicting themselves, is not something i would take
seriously as we all have to put our words into English and often we all
contradict ourselves. But this thread is useless, if you’re not going to
say anything.

A: Am I giving the wrong answers, or are you people asking the wrong
questions?

Q: What bloodline are you referring to?

A: The ones you never hear about. The "true" bloodlines.

Q: Every one of us has a bloodline, how less true is my bloodline to

the one you are purposely being so vague about?

A: Ok, when I say, "true" Bloodline, I am talking about the ones who
rule this world. They are not who or what you've been told they are.

Q: Based on some of what you've said, I would believe that you claim to
know "Why" we are here. If so, why are we here, in your opinion?

A: If I told you that not only would I be breaking a Law, but I would
achieve the complete opposite of what I hope to. If I could tell you that,
I would tell everyone, every chance I had...but this world doesnt work
like that.
My time is up for today, but I will be back tomorrow.
Maybe tomorrow I'll finally get to get started on the honest
questions, so if those of you who wish to be negative could restrain
yourself from posting it would be much appreciated.
Goodbye.

reply posted on 16-11-2009 @ 12:21 PM by Illuminator13

Q: OK, so you didn't give me an answer....I know your trying to keep

up. It is getting a little heated here; many think you’re not the real
deal. Let's prove them wrong....can you give us any details that we don't
already know about the whole 2012 scenario?

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A: Why are you worried about 2012? Not only is it irrelevant to
anything in your life as of this moment, there is no need to concern
yourself with it at all.

Q: OK maybe i can fill you in on ATS a bit and explain the hostility
you’re receiving. About once a month, there will be a thread from someone
who claims to be in contact with aliens, from the future or from the
bloodlines. They come on asking members to ask questions and they promise
to give answers, normally with some rules applied. Then we get a thread
running for about 20 pages, with no coherent answer to any of the
questions asked, very similar to the thread you have just begun. So you
maybe spending your afternoon doing this after maybe reading a book on
bloodlines come on here and see how many gullible people you can dupe. You
will realise we are not all saps on this website, so unless you provide
some hardcore facts about yourself your family and anything slightly
interesting, do one

A: Yes, I looked through this website a bit and I did see what you are
referring to, so now I partly understand why some of the members here are
so hostile. I have never read any books on the Bloodlines, because none
exist. I do not think any of you are "saps" and I am not asking to be
"believed". I am only here to answer questions. People say that I am being
vague, and I am being vague but there is a good reason for that.

Q: Would you mind telling us what mistakes Hidden Hand made and was he
truthfull in his replys and pls check your u2u

A: Finally, somebody who read my answers and asked a good question.

Ok, "Hidden Hand" was who he said he was, there should be no mistake
about it. Now, I have read his discourse with this site and it was very
honest and a pretty good piece of work. But, to my suprise, I noticed that
he told you people way more than he was supposed to and I was not the only
one to notice. Infact here is a quote from him:
"Let's put it this way, I have already been, shall we say
"chastised" for going well beyond my remit here. It was not intended that
I be as open as I have been. In fact, if you follow the topic through
again from the beginning, you may notice how my 'tone' toward you
(collectively) has softened somewhat during our discourse together.
I have, as far as possible, adhered fully to the Laws of Free Will
and Confusion, although there have been instances where I have said more
than I should have. You yourselves will not suffer for this, however, when
it comes to my next cycle in 4th Density Negative, and working off my
Karmic Record, I will have to accept the consequences for my actions. But
hey, I figure I've got a Negative enough life to come as it is, so what's
a little extra going to matter."
The one who were overseeing the discourse between him and this site
read what he wrote and automatically knew that he had broken the Law of
Free Will. How did he break it? Well, he went into too much detail when
answering the questions. Not only that, but he answered questions that
nobody even asked and that is not a wise thing to do. There are
consequences for breaking The Laws, and they are pretty harsh if you ask
me. Now, people on this site accuse me of being "vague" and "cryptic" but
they do not know what I know. There are things that I CANNOT tell you
without harming myself and that is something I am looking to avoid. The
reason why I continue to "tread lightly" is because you really can’t be
too sure that you've broken a Law, until after it happens--then it hits
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you like a ton of bricks, although you can proceed with caution and will
most likely avoid breaking anything. The people in this world break these
Laws all the time but they do it unconsciously, yet the still pay for
their mistake. Now if I were to consciously, knowingly, break these Laws
then I would be in for a lot of trouble. What are these Laws? You'll have
to figure them out for yourself.

Q: I have a suggestion for you....instead of answering all the

negative, give your attention to the positive. So far you have brought
nothing to the table. You ask for questions, promising answers....I think
you falling short in the answer department.
Please, if you’re the real deal get to it and stop wasting your/our
time. Oh ya, one more question....what blood type is the bloodline you
speak of?

A: I figured that out yesterday and that is what I am going to do. As

for the "promising" answers part, you people are asking the wrong types of
questions. Now, today I am going to "stretch the boundaries" a little bit,
but I WILL NOT knowningly do anything that I know will be detrimental to
why I am here, no matter how any of you may feel about it.
As for your question, it show's a good example of this: Irrelevance.
That’s what most of the Topics/Questions on this site are, irrelevant. A
lot of the things on this site do one thing: They get you all wrapped up
and distracted from the things that you should be focused on. Is that a
"vague" or "cryptic"?
My answers so far have value; all you have to do is "read between
the lines".

Q: Hmmm seems to me you have read enough here to use a title from a
very popular thread "Window of Opportunity" by the poster Hidden Hand.
He had lots of very good and relevant information. I feel you are
just attempting to copycat this very sucessful thread and I am not reading
from you the same level of knowingness.
If I am wrong, I apologize but, I trust my instinct.

A: You are correct about one thing, he did give you guys some pretty
good answers, but he also had alot of irrelevant things. It’s funny
because the irrelevant parts of his dialogue seem to draw the most
attention and focus.
Also, his thread was the reason that this site was the last place I
wanted to come to, to say what needs to be said. The idea is to help new
people, instead of those who have been helped. Metaphorically speaking: If
you were donating 100 Christmas gifts to needy families, would you drop
off all the toys at one house? No, you would go to different ones.

Q: Hello Illuminator13, I would love to hear your answers to the

following questions.
1. Who are we?
2. Why are we here?

A: Very good question. I love the way you formatted it, you didnt ask
for THE answers to these questions, you asked for MY answers to these
questions. The answers are relatively simple. Here they are:
1.) A developing soul.
2.) To show others what they are.
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 Want me to elaborate? Formulate the question so I can answer.

Q: I think I get your doings OP... Here are my questions:

Is a catalyst still being needed in a general sense?
If so, how much more and for how long you would guess that the push
needs to keep going?
Do you have to lie to keep your integrity?

A: 1.) Yes. A catalyst will always be needed as long as there are souls
who need to be developed. There is no other way around it.
2.) As long as it takes, there is no set "time" standard.
3.) I am not in the habit of lying, and I have not lied to anyone on
this website.

Q: Yes but do you understand...and I mean this in all seriousness...do

you understand how you are coming off to us?
An egotistical madman sitting behind a computer with nothing better
to do then draw attention to yourself. How are we to take that seriously?

A: Yes, I do understand where you people are coming from.

I am not an "attention seeker". Infact I live a pretty solitary
life, attention from others is probably one of the last priorites that I
have.

Q: Is earth such a hard ride sometimes to show us what we are not? And
if so, being that we are wonderful supreme beings ourselves why do we have
to learn this again and again.

A: Moreonethananyone you are an interesting one, different from alot of

the people who I have conversated with thus far. Your questions are the
type of question that I am looking for.
You must understand that the ride is only as hard as you make it.
Yes, it may infact be "difficult" some times, but that is what
perseverance is all about. There are two "worlds" on this planet. One is
the Inner "World" (perception), and the other is the Outer "World"
(reality). You have, for the most part, complete dominance in Inner
"World". This meaning you control, more or less, everything that happens
there. In the other Outer "World" you may think have less control, but in
reality (kind of ironic) you really do have more to say in it than you
think.

My time is up for today, but I will be back tomorrow.

Maybe tomorrow I'll finally get to get started on the honest questions, so
if those of you who wish to be negative could restrain yourself from
posting it would be much appreciated.

Goodbye.

Q: I think he never hid behind a proxy lol. Plus my ip address question

got him going, lol. Would you come onto a board, with your real ip? Can
mods find out his real ip address, and would he want them to know it, lol.
Troll or genuine we will never know. Lol
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A: I do not need to "hide behind proxies". Infact I only use two, and
both are at public venues. I have been to both, one yesterday and one
today. These are the only two I will be using, the moderators will know
for sure.

Q: "Ok, when I say, "true" Bloodline, I am talking about the ones who
rule this world. They are not who or what you've been told they are."
What I've been told is that all people are born naturally free and
sovereign unto themselves, and any notion of Divine Right of Kings is a
false doctrine intended to subvert freedom. By believing in natural rights
and inherent political power belonging to all people am I in direct
conflict with this so called "true bloodline"?

A: No. Believe what you will, it won’t the fact of the matter.

Q: Surely you have to expect some negativity. You’re making some pretty
outlandish claims and have proved little in the way of evidence.

A: Interesting. What "outlandish claims" have I made? You are the ones
assuming everything and that’s not my problem.

Q: Who dug the Oak Island pit, why and does it now contain anything?
What did the Templars use to blackmail the church and where is it now? Why
are you any different to any other loony that makes exactly the same claim
and cop out as you?

A: More irrelevant questions. Tell me, of what practical use is

anything that you just asked? How does it pertain to your life in general?
3.) For one, I am far from a "loony". And most "loonys" you see are
disinfo agents, although some are loony. I have had no reason to do any of
this if I did not genuinely want to help you. Take what you want from my
statements and throw away the rest, because the only real lasting truth is
one that comes from within.

Q: Okay, I thought my questions were legitimate, looks like I was

incorrect. Or maybe you missed them?
Perhaps these questions would be of more use if answered.
What is your interpretation of 666?
What does the hexagon mean to you?
What are dreams?
How do we raise our consciousness?
Is 2012 a significant year? Specifically on the 21st of December?
What are the subjects that Hidden Hand spoke falsely about?
Do you agree with most of what Hidden Hand said?
Why would there be another opportunity now? Did not Hidden Hand discuss
everything that we need?
Could you give us more detail on your purpose?

A: If you posted these, I missed them, sorry. Some of your questions

are irrelevant, but I'll answer them anyway.
2.) The Hexagon is a very sacred symbol and also symbol of Saturn.
Infact the symbol is actually imbedded onto Saturn. It’s where the elders
resign. If you actually pay attention and observe various religious
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structures/paintings you will find that the Hexagon is present in all
major religions, it is not a coincidence.
3.) Dreams- First and foremost it is a place where your soul takes a
rest from this realm. Also, it can be manifestation of something that you
want in this world, something you dread, or a time of fun where "physical
laws" do not apply (Lucid Dreaming)
4.) By finding the answers to these three questions: Who are you?
Where are you at? Why are you here? Then living according to the answers
of each. It is imperative that you actually live according to these
answers, do not just figure them out and then ignore them.
5.) Do not concern yourself with 2012.
6.) Yes, but, again, he talked too much.
7.) More or less. I am not here to discuss "Hidden Hand" much look
to my earlier answer for the answer to this question.
8.) I am here to point out what’s really important. There are many
distractions and "Red herrings".

Q: Cool. I love these "ask me anything" threads.

Can we just go on happily raising our families, living our lives and
not be concerned with "everyone" trying to take everything in our own
little worlds?
I don't think I am here for any other purpose than to give me to
everyone I know. To be a son, brother, daddy, husband. Eventually a
grandpa. haha. I am here and contribute positively to society, enforcing
rules and laws to maintain some semblance of order, help people when I
can. If there is some form of "grand plan", my main question is: Can
people just go on living and loving without fear of being violated
inhumanely...? haha. Or, are we doomed from something else other than
ourselves?

A: 1.) Do not get attached to material possessions.

2.) More or less, that is why you are here. Dig deeper though,
you'll figure it out
3.) Fear is counterproductive. Besides, there is no reason to fear,
because nothing can truely harm what you are. "Physical Reality" is not
all that there is. There are those who can eliminate the body, but the
soul is eternal.

Ok, this was a very production session. I have to go now; I'll be

back tomorrow though.
You all have a nice day and a good night.

reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 11:18 AM by Illuminator13

Q: Listen... This is real simple...you've come to this site claiming to

be some bloodline and whatnot Answer this and I promise I will listen with
the most open of minds.
How can we be sure you are who you say and not some hack or hoax?
Believe it or not that is very important to a lot of us here. You
can't just say these things and expect us to take you seriously and if you
do indeed have important answers well this is the only well to help your
cause and ours. You want to spread your important messages then throw us a
bone here, otherwise you're nothing more than a hoaxer and your message
will fall to a majority of deaf ears.
Also if you are such a bloodline and have such important news you've
already gone behind your people's backs by posting to us...why not come
out into the open?
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 Sorry but as of now I think you are hoaxing

A: Interesting question, but what, in this world, can you really be

sure of? If you are not aware, most of the stuff you have been taught by
others throughout your whole lives is incorrect.
I have not gone behind anyones back, I swore no oaths.

Q: “By "duty" I mean it is a task bestowed by the Supreme One.”

So we finally get a little more from you, you know we are going to
ask you, who is the supreme one you are talking of.
1) So in your opinion, who is this supreme one, is this what we call
god?
2) Do you understand, your mission, or duty, by going through
rituals, or through what we call path to enlightenment?
3) Do you mind if a board mod, takes your ip address, and tries to
see what area of the world you are in? I know this may be too personal,
but the board mods could do this.
On the thing about board negatives, its just that we get loads of
these threads. Your not helping yourself or us, by being so cryptic, a lot
of us speak frankly, as anonymity on the net lets us. We will never know
if any true insider comes here, but we can just see where this thread
goes.

A: 1.) That depends, are you worshiping dead humans? And worship, in
itself, is an unnecessary thing to do, being honestly grateful is good
enough.
2.) It is possible to learn through those methods, but not
necessary. You know everything you need to know about why you came here,
all you have to do is look within.
3.) Do as you wish, it doesn’t matter to me. The places where I am
using a computer, like I stated before, are both public venues in a well
populated city. If you seek to find me though, you only have 3 days left.

Q: “No one can give you truth but yourself...”

A: Not exactly. You can be told the truth by others, but it wont help
you none. In fact it might actually hurt you. It’s your job to find it on
your own.

Q: What are the best ways to heal, both physical and emotional
problems? This does sound like Hidden Hand, but then again he was
convincing after all was said and done. Is what he said true? So we know
not to ask the same questions.
What can we do on a day to day basis to help achieve what we are
here to do?

A: 1.) Ok, Physical ailments have more to do with the Objective "World"
than anything else. There is little you can do when something severe
happens to your "body", no matter how much you may "believe". Example:
Amputees. Most of these instances are designed to test the person whom it
happens to. How will you react? Go into a pit of despair and become
resentful or continue on being content and accept what has happened? But
relatively smaller problems are not design to test you at all and have
solutions that can be solved by an "Objective" source, and by "Objective"
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I mean something that you would perceive to be apart from your "Inner"
self. Example: You trip, fall and break an arm. What do you do? Wrap it in
a cast an allow it to heal itself.
2.) As for Emotional problems, if you take note, most are caused by
your choosing to react to a certain situation in a certain way. Think
about it, who is in control of you? Who makes the decisions in your life?
3.) The core of what he said was true and that really is all you
should be concerned with.
4.) Find out what you are, where you are, and why you came here.
Then live according to the answers you find out.

Q: Dear Illuminator13, Thank you for offering help.

Here are my questions...
1. Our origins - are reptilians, Dracos and Annunaki our brothers
and sisters?
2. Going with reincarnation - We each have a set of lessons to learn
each on this planet - true/false?
3. Why is Law of One not right when it answers so many questions?
4. Is graduation from this world involving synchronization of a set
of frequencies - what is the best way to achieve this?
5. Is there a guardian race(s) always watching over us?
6. Are we in a Vail of Forgetfulness? What is its purpose?
7. Are you part of an earth bloodline like Jewish / Aryan, etc?
8. If this is your only re-incarnation - you must be a "walk-in"
right?
9. If it is not 2012, is there a window between 2012-2013(summer
solstice) or 2012-2017?
10. What are our options when it is time? (Stay with Earth, Move to
higher dimension/ density)?
Thank you in advance

A: 1.) We are all one.

2.) True in a certain manner. You all have to go through the same
lessons in each "lifetime", even if you already mastered them. Ok, I'll
use this example: You are in a store, nobody is around and you really want
the item you are looking at, only you don’t have any money left. Test:
Will you steal to get what you want? Most people won't but some will, why?
Because their soul has not passed the lesson of theft and stealing. The
ones who have passed are still tested with it but they pass easily, in
fact they don’t even feel the temptation that the person who hasn’t passed
feels. Now, it is possible for a soul to learn all of the lessons on their
first attempt. Doesn’t happen very often, but it has happened.
3.) When I tell you not to read any texts regarding spirituality
that is not to say that there aren’t any that will tell you what you need
to know. Now, for most people who read texts like the Law of One, their
soul will get the feeling that it is true, but it will be nowhere near the
feeling that they would have if they were to figure out the core of the
manner by themselves. Besides that you are less likely to believe, let
alone truly follow, what you do not figure out for yourself. Although
there are exceptions to this, there aren’t many.
4.) Do not be concerned with "graduating" from this world. It is a
selfish concept in itself. Are you doing what you do because you want to,
or because you feel you have to?
5.) Yes
6.) Yes and its purpose it to help you.
7.) It does not matter.
8.) Correct.
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 9.) Do not focus on things of that nature, its not why you are here.
10.) You have little choice in the matter. Once you get higher up,
then you'll be able to decide what you wish to do.

Q: What is the effect of emotion on reality?

Is reality simply a reflection of consciousness?
What is consciousness?
Is illness created from within?

A: 1.) Emotions are here to, I'll say, enhance the quality of your time
here. They are tools and it’s up to you to use them properly.
2.) "Individual" or "Universal"?
3.) Some are some aren’t. Has to do with the "Objective World" and
"Subjective World" I described earlier.

Q: Illuminator:
First a personal question. Why did you choose the screen name you
did? I know, it should be obvious, given the definition, but I've
practiced quite a bit of magic. The reason people here thought you were
referring to "Illuminati" bloodlines was, in fact, because your selected
name implies that notion, much in the same way you ascertained that
spelling was inconsequential because man was intelligent enough to know
what you meant. Words and numbers have magic that relies heavily on just
that notion, thus, if you are from the bloodlines, I assume you have some
reason for the name you selected.
Second: What kind of things could you point out in history that
(nonspecific bloodlines) have done that would, in your family's eyes, be
deemed as "Evil"? Evil is generally a very subjective word. What is the
definition, from your perspective, of what is deemed "evil" and "good"
ways? I mean, someone out there views mass genocide of the earth's
population as a necessary evil, while another may look at it as just evil,
and yet another may see it as a good thing.
Hopefully I made my questions clear enough... it's hard to convey a
complete thought from mind to word.

A: Seems somebody dwells into the "occult". There is a reason why I

selected the name I did, it has significance, and the number too. What do
you know about the number 13?
When I say "evil" I am referring to what other people call it.
Hatred, War, Poverty, Lies, Racism, etc. These are generally regarded, in
the opinion of the general public, as "evil". And I, and others like me,
don’t think any of it is evil, just tools.

Q: Please don't bother replying to people that are questioning the

validity of this. I think we can all decide for ourselves what's true and
what’s not.
1.-If we are to be inspired to find our purpose, what methods and
direction should we be looking in?
2.- All of this alludes to "god" or whatever is considered to be "in
charge of the game", appointing various individuals into place either via
duty, birth, or otherwise, to fulfill their roles in said game. How do
these individuals take/understand what is their appropriate roles/duties?
Does whomever is in charge of this game "speak orders"?

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 3.- Within your hierarchy, it's been alluded to that again, this
supreme being, has commanded specific rules that must be followed. Why are
there rules, and why would knowledge have to be withheld from anyone?

A: 1.) Method- Contemplation. Direction- From inside your being.

2a.) For some it is passed down from generation to generation. For
others, it is made clear in a few subtle ways.
2b.) Yes, but not in they way you think.
3.) The rules can be known by all who wish to, but only after a
period of "enlightenment". People know the rules subconsciously, they just
choose to disobey them.

Q: A. When you say Bloodlines - do you mean the one that was proven
that all U.S. presidents except for one are all related to the same
British King? Or are you talking about ET bloodlines?
B. What is the nature of Evil? Who does it serve and what is its
ultimate purpose? Is it the lessons?
C. If you are identifying yourself as a benevolent (good, positive)
being - do you realize that we must have evil and without evil we will
never learn any lessons in life?
D. What will you gain for the information that you are sharing?
E. Can we as individuals bypass the evil bloodline and what they are
imposing on the planet?
F. Can we change the destiny of what the "evil" has planned for us?
G. Does Bloodline relate to DNA activation? If so, do they have some
special powers that we don't?

A: A.) The ones you never hear about.

B.) "Evil" does not exist in the big picture. Its purpose is to show
you what you are not.
C.) Yes.
D.) Well besides finishing one of my tasks, I will gain the peace of
mind knowing that I did all I could do to benefit the souls who were ready
to receive what I was attempting to give them.
E.) To a certain extent yes. You know most of all the "negative"
things that are being done, why do you actively participate in them?
Example: You are aware of how fraudulent the banking systems are. Why do
people continue to support them by having a bank account?
F.) "Good" and "Evil" work towards the same goal, just on the
opposite ends of the spectrum, so the answer is no.
G.) No special powers are awarded for having a certain type of
blood.

Q: Are we better off remaining calm until 'said' event(s)?

Preparations are needed, to what respect however?

A: 1.) Yes.
2.) If you want to do anything, moving nearer to the equator (Think
South America) would be a good option. But really, what does it matter
anyway? Do you think you are going to "live" forever? This is not your
"Home".

Q: I am not going to buy into this 100% yet. I do agree that the OP is
keeping his answers very vague. However, let’s play for a second that this

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may very well be the real deal. Someone who has the knowledge and the
ability to answer our questions. So here goes OP. Here are my questions.
* When will our governments, (maybe the U.S. to be specific)
disclose information that our planet has been visited by E.T. Just to
clarify, I am looking for a date, but in the end I will only get what you
are willing to give.*
* Are we, the human race and its governments, headed for another
world war in the next say 10 years?*
That is all I have at the moment. Hopefully this is what you have
stated in previous posts as, the right question. Thank you for your time!

A: I am not asking you to "buy" anything. Take what you want from what
I am saying, discard the rest, but isn’t that what you are going to do
anyway?
1.) Most likely, never. Not only would it be counterproductive, but,
believe it or not, the general population is not ready to come to terms
with that knowledge.
2.) Nothing is written in stone, but I am reasonably positive that
no "World Wars" will be happening anytime soon.

Q: Dear "illuminator"
Albeit while others are not so keen about a repeat 'Hidden Hand'
post, I see this does serve me an opportunity to ask some questions which
I never got to ask your associate.
First of all, are you part of the same embodiment (group) that stems
from the ancient Lucifer group, or Quetzalcoatl, alternatively would it be
possible you could provide more information on said group?
Second, is the rumored coming disclosure this month actually going
to occur, I see this as a valid question because if anything if you are
who you say you are no doubt you will have the same 'access' to
information as your associate.
Third, why is the coming harvest necessary and what purpose does it
serve to the reptilians, plus it was previously stated by 'Hidden Hand'
that the harvest will propel humankind into the 4th dimension, if that is
the case, how do you explain the fact that people are believing we're
headed to the 5th.
Finally, do you have any association with the Galactic Federation of
Light whom are apparently nothing more than advanced-biomorphic reptiles?

A: 1.) No I am not of neither of those group souls, nor "Yahweh". As

for the more information part, of what practical use is it to you?
2.) No.
3.) It is necessary because those of you who are ready to "go to the
next level" need to continue your journey. And not all of "humankind" will
be going anywhere; in fact most of you will be staying in this dimension.
As for people believing they are going to the 5th, they are misinformed.
Nobody skips a level.
4.) I am not associated with them, nor have I ever been contacted by
them.

Q: Hello Illuminator. I appreciate you taking the Time to Answer the

less well thought out Questions that some of my Brothers and Sisters ask.
I would also like to Apologize for the Rudeness directed at you by some of
the Less Enlightened. I don't feel that they are entirely to Blame for

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their Skepticism though. As a People, we have been faced with far too many
Lies to take anything at face value.
Now, as for my Questions, I will ask no more than 3 in a Single post
in respect for the Power of Trinity.
1) Will Your Bloodline attempt to lead my People into an Unnecessary
War with Fatal Weapons instead of just a Lyrical Combat?
2) Can you Suggest a Method to better balance the "Seven Sins" with
the "Seven Virtues" Spoken of in the New Testament?
3) Does the Faith of Many detract from the Faith of Few?
Thank you in advance for answering my Questions and Any others you
are Capable of Answering without Undue Risk. I must say, this Game,
although sometimes Dangerous for those involved, is truly fun to play.

A: 2.) Consciously choose to do the latter.

3.) That is the way it is designed, to "test" ones faith in oneself.
Are you going to "follow the leader" or are you going to "be the leader".

Q: Hidden Hand was genuine. I intuitively knew this. If you are who you
say you are then I sincerely thank you for the opportunity granted once
more. Some highly relevant questions regarding this end cycle.
What are you willing to reveal about the role of chemtrails?
Will the militaries of nations attempt to close borders/highways
prior to Nibiru's passage?
Should we prepare for mass power outages/disturbances between 2010-
2012 as a result of solar activity?
Will the false flag 'alien invasion' be after the pole shift event
to help usher in the new world order agenda?
Do you agree the Mayan End Cycle calendar really ends in 2011, not
2012?
I understand these are confronting questions and I hope you are
within your bounds to disclose openly and honestly. I realize these events
will prove highly relevant in the near future. Please ignore the
negativity. It is to be expected unfortunately. I am sure you are evolved
enough to not take it personally.
Thanks in advance.

A: 1.) I'll put it this way, they are not killing you and they do less
damage than you think.
2.) It is possible, but most likely wont happen.
3.) Prepare, yes. Worry, no.
4.) Don’t worry about that.
5.) No, and I would be more concerned about the things that are
important.

Q: Ok.. I'm wondering about bipolar disorder, would you say that
generally bipolar people are more creative than others? If so, why is
that?
Bipolar disorder is thought of as being hereditary, is this correct?
What is the real cause is there a spiritual link?
I've read somewhere that it might be something wrong spiritually, a
fractured crown chakra or something like that?
Medicine for bipolar disorder: is anything big pharma pushes good,
or helpful for bipolar disorder, or is it as I suspect: real bad for you?
What about alternative treatments is there something you could
recommend?
Is it maybe just a nutritional problem?
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 I've been wondering this for a while too, is cannabis good for you
as long as you don't over consume(too much of everything is bad)?
Do cannabis have any spiritual connection, or is it just an ordinary
plant which happens to get you high?
Could I terminate my existence.. Wouldn’t that be fair, couldn't
"God" give me that opportunity? Couldn't he destroy me forever and ever?
Basically what I'm asking is: Am I under a contract that I can't break? Am
I TRAPPED in existence?
In this miserable, utterly hopeless existence, this hell.
Couldn't I just say: I'm done playing, I don't want this, I don't
want this life, I don't want an afterlife, I don't want to reincarnate, I
don't want to move to another "density".. I don't want to exist in any
way, shape or form.
Wouldn't that be my right if I wanted to, to not exist?
I'm pretty much done with this life already, been burned out for
years.. this "game" is played out.. and my conscious self never signed no
deal.
I want out. I don't see the purpose of this spiritual rat race
anyway..

A: 1.) There are a lot of people who are misdiagnosed with that
"disease". And why are the ones who truly "have it" more creative? The
same reason that when a person loses his sight, his hearing becomes
keener. You lose something, but it is compensated for in another way.
2.) Ok, the best way I can put it, so that you might be able to
understand it, is this: A "glitch" in the "game". Same thing for people
born with "Downsyndrome".
3.) Almost all of it is "bad" in the general sense, but everyone is
different. If you become more "stable" and experience little to no "side
effects" then whatever you took is right for you, if not get a new
medication.
4.) No alternative treatments that I would recommend, sorry. I do
not use "pot" and I would not recommend it to anyone.
7.) Just an ordinary plant.
8.) No. Learn your lessons and learn them now, taking your life will
solve nothing. Life is "sacred", cherish yours.
9.) Just look at your mindset. Everything is as you see it because
you choose to see it that way. Have you ever "looked on the bright side"
of things? Be thankful for where you’re at, because there are many in far
"worse" situations than you. It’s not what happens to you that is the
problem, its how you choose to react to it.
10.) No, that’s not the way it works.
11.) This is not a "spiritual rat race"; take as long as you need.

Q: I did not come here to argue.

-1-
a) WHO ARE the "Bloodlines"? If you won't give me names, tell me how
they control the world.
b) Are they the rich business tycoons who we hardly know anything
about?
c) Do they influence world events and have control of our political
leaders?

-2- By "duty" I mean it is a task bestowed by the Supreme One.

a) Who/What is the "Supreme One"? Is this a human entity?
b) If so, does he/she have a profession or title that we humans can
relate to?
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-3-
a) Why are we here? I am aware that you said you cannot tell us,
because it would break a "law". Fine, but can you tell us how we can find
out?
b) Is our purpose to work in and support a hierarchical society or
infrastructure that only "Bloodlines" can see/understand? Metaphorically,
like individual parts of a giant machine; or stones in a pyramid?

-4-
a) Why do we need "help" from the "Bloodlines"?
b) How are they "helping" us? Are they helping us by keeping us
subservient to them and not asking ourselves important questions like why
we are here?
c) What do they want from us? What do they want us to do?

-5-
a) Is the Swine Flu Pandemic/Mass Vaccination a form of biological
warfare or control?
b) Is a method of population reduction?

-6-
a) Are there such things a Extra Terrestrials?
b) If so, what is their purpose?
c) Are the "Bloodlines" in contact with them? Is any other human
organization, for that matter?

-7-
a) What is going to happen in October 2011?
b) Will there be a pole shift during (or beginning) in that point in
time?

-8-
a) Is something going to happen in the near future that you are on
this site preparing us for?
b) How much time do we have if that is in fact the case?

That's all I have for now - my next set of questions will depend on your
responses to this set. Take as much time you need in answering them, but
please do respond to each and every one of them. I apologize if I have
offended you in the first part of this post.

A: 1a.) By telling those who are publicly in power what to do.

1b.) No.
1c.) Yes.
2a.) The one who not only created all that you perceive, but is also
intertwined in its creation.
2b.) No it is not a human entity.
3a.) Look inside yourself, the answer is there.
3b.) No, nothing like that. You are not slaves (Contrary to what
"Religion" may tell you).
4a.) If you didn't have the help, you would never grow.
4b.) By showing you what you are not.
4c.) To see what you are. To "evolve".
5a.) "Swine Flu" is pretty much in the same boat as "Bird Flu", you
do remember what "Bird Flu" was don't you...hype.
5b.) There is no plan of population reduction and/or control.
6a.) If you mean beings that are not from this planet, yes.
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 6b.) Their purposes are different. They vary from "species" to
"species"
6c.) Yes, to a certain extent. and to my knowledge no other
"organization", although it is fully possible.
7a&b.) Do not worry about the future.
8a.) Yes.
8b.) To answer that would be counterproductive, do not worry about
"how much time" you may have.

Q: Illuminator
1. Are you done answering questions?
2. The Vanderbilt’s, what knowledge have you in terms of their
influence on the current world scene? Also I have heard of their lineage
running some how back to the Elites of the Maya and even the Olmecs. Can
you speak to this in any way?

A: 1.) I am done, at the latest, on Friday...although it could be

sooner.
2a.) They don’t carry a lot of influence as far as the "big picture"
goes.
2b.) No I can't, but don't believe all that is said regarding people
who can "Trace Lineages".

Q: Here's a question that shouldn't break any of your laws:

The title of your thread is "Opportunity Knocks Again". For
something to have happened again, it has to have already happened once.
When did the first opportunity knock? Is this your second attempt at
this type of thread or are you referring to someone else's work on this
subject?

A: Not a knock, the first time, but a window.

Q: If it is true that you have an answer that I myself do not have,

then please answer this question Illuminator. Does the Supreme One
acknowledge me?

A: It acknowledges all.

Q: 1) What is the genetic significance of "The Bloodline?" Why are

these genetics significant? For example...perhaps there is a gene that
facilitates use of a body by discarnate entities. That might be
significant because a person with such a gene could easily act as a host.
What is the significance?
2) I am toying with the idea that I am sovereign within my own
experience, and that others that I perceive within that experience are not
"really" others, but rather, are self-created representations of others
that might or might not bear any resemblance to the self-perceptions of
those others.
2a) How accurate is this perception? How might it be clarified? For
example, is the "I" that I perceive really an interference pattern of the
self-perceptions of various consciousnesses? To what extent is experience
shared? Is there anyone to share experience with? Please explain how the
experience of consciousness relates to the experience of other
consciousnesses.
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 2b) What are the implications and consequences of deliberate self-
change to my experience? For example, "making use" of the representations
of others? It seems as though there could be no possible "badness" in
deliberate use of a self-created representation by a sovereign
consciousness. Using others is really using self. It seems there need be
no imposition upon the free will of those others, as my use of elements of
my self-created experience need not interfere with the self-created
experience of others. But it's possible various consciousnesses may be in
rapport, and may be experiencing a "collective" reality. Or, those others
might simply be unaware of their sovereignty, or might not have sufficient
awareness of the nature of their experience...and consequently, changes
made by me to my experience might affect the experience of others. Please
explain how this process functions.
2c) Assuming I desired to create an experience, and perhaps make it
available to others who may choose to accept it, but not impose it upon
them if they do not...how would I do so?
2d) How would one communicate directly with another consciousness
rather than their representation?
Thank you.

A: 1.) Genetics have little to do with, "spirituality". Only with

ruling over this world.
2.) Well, I wouldn’t do that if I were you because its not true.
Also it borderlines a "psychiatric disease" called Schizophrenia. Although
there are "Two Worlds" in this place, both are equal in their "existence".
Those you experience are apart the "Objective" World and that which you
"think", "believe" or "perceive" is apart of your "Inner" World. Both of
these "worlds" interlock to create your "reality".
2a.) If you polarize it into "black and white", not very accurate at
all. In this dimension, it doesn’t relate a whole lot, but as you "go up
the ladder", everything becomes, One.
2b.) I can’t and you won’t find anyone that can. It will all "make
sense" as you "work your way up the ladder of creation."
2c.) It seems you want control. I can’t, and won’t give it to you.
2d.) You have to reach a certain point in your development, and have
a VERY high level of concentration to channel your thoughts. Sound easy?
If it was, everyone would be doing it.

Q: “Think before you ask your question. I will only be here for a very
brief period of time, so I suggest you ask only important questions. Use
your Intelligence, Intuitiveness, Courtesy and Creativeness when asking a
question. Use your mind and heart to break free from that box that you
have been placed in.”
1. What box might that be? (No matrix clichés please)
You are assuming people you do not know are (metaphorically)
imprisoned. That’s a big assumption given there are 6 billion individual
human beings on the planet each with their own unique perception of the
world.
2. Who and what is the "supreme being"?
You said to someone "but you ask the wrong questions".. (I love
interview with a vampire!) .. But rather than getting us to pander to you
and play 200 questions.. Couldn’t you just save us some time and tell us
the specific answers we need to know? The answers you have given so far
are vague and cryptic and do not fulfill the opportunity you claimed to be
offering.

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A: That "Box" is where your "teachings" and "learnings" have brought
you thus far. Conditioning, it works just as well on the mind as it does
the body.
That is the end of my time today.
If you could please hold back on the questions, so I can catch up,
it would be appreciated.
Take care.

reply posted on 18-11-2009 @ 02:14 PM by Illuminator13

Q: You mean you're here to help us in the same way that Hidden Hand
said he and his House are?

A: Ultimately, yes.

Q: Also, can you tell about magic? In this world of ours, where we are
supposedly bound within rules, how does magic exist?

A: What I can tell you is that "Magic" does exist, but that does not
mean that you should go meddling with it. You don’t personally need it and
it wont help you do what your here to do.

Q: Can you please tell me about the significance of dreams? Using

dreams - can one get answers to a few questions we are seeking and become
clearer of our individual purpose?

A: I already answered your first question in an earlier post, and

dreams can make you more "clearer" of your purpose, but it is unnecessary.
You can figure that out while you are "awake" and let me make this
perfectly clear: You, unconsciously, know why you are here, but you just
don’t, consciously (for now at least), "remember" what it is.

Q: What in your opinion is the best meditation technique to better know

ones inner mind. Or is there something better than meditation that brings
you closer to the source. I meditate a lot and my temples constantly
tingle, can you tell me why?

A: I would say deep breathing and contemplating whatever thoughts you

seem to be having trouble with "getting a grip" on. I wouldn't use
"Mantras" if I were you.

Q: According to you and your perspective, how does the development of

our souls in this duality play affect you and yours in the development of
your soul?

A: They don't. I am here for a slightly different reason than you are.
I got through this "phase" a long time ago, and though I had to "relive"
the basic polarity complex that is this planet, I learned relatively
quickly why I was here, and, so I am completing my mission.

Q: Which others do we need to show what/who they are?

Other developing souls in a 3D human incarnation?

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A: 1.) Everyone you come into contact with.
2.) Yes.

Q: What steps need to be taken to further develop our souls on an

individual basis?

A: Well the first thing you need to do is "go inside yourself" and get
the answers to who you are and why you are here, then the rest should
really take care of itself. If you show others what you/they are, both of
you will develop. Why? Because you are One.

Q: If what you need to do is not done by Dec 2012, will you not have
failed, or are you to be in this 3rd density for an unspecified time?

A: Ok, I don't "need" to do anything. I am making the choice to do what

I do, just as I made the choice to come here. I could just not do my duty
and go sail around the world or something to that extent, not coming into
contact with any of you and nothing negative would befall me, but the fact
of the matter is that I want to be beneficial to you in any way that I
can. Say if somehow we were actually to cross paths, I would be that
person who holds the door open for you as I am leaving the store, gives
you that extra money you forgot in your car while getting groceries or
that person who taped the $1 to the Vending Machine with a note that says
"Save your money and have an awesome day!.", etc. I am here to help you
see what you are.

Q: About the "Why are we here, in your opinion?”. Doesn’t mean that I
am looking to accept those answers. I only asked that question to try to
gain insight into his perspective.
I believe in God, but I still don't know why we are here! I can
accept there are some things we may just not be able to know, and I'm okay
with that! Truth is, I’d be very skeptical of anyone claiming to
know...that doesn't mean I'm not curious about the answers they would
give!

A: I am not asking you to accept my answers. You have the answers

inside of you; all you have to do is look. Once you figure out why you are
here, it will become very obvious to you and in reality it is obvious.
When searching for something it is easy to overlook that which has been
right before your eyes the whole time.

Q: In your opinion What is meant by higher self, if "a part” of us

resides with the source then why do we send of a part of our soul to earth
to learn all over again.

A: Because of the challenge and the desire to "prove oneself". You are,
in all actuality, "playing" a "game" with yourself and eventually you will
win.

Q: how important is vegetarianism?

A: Ah, what a delightful question! It’s interesting because I knew, in

my heart, that this question would be asked. For starters I am, in fact, a
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Strict Vegetarian. That being said, Vegetarianism is a relatively
important part of the "game" but its main function is more so focused in
the 4th Density (Compassion). The question: Can you show the same
treatment to animals as you do yourselves?
First off, despite what you have been told, meat is not a natural
substance to be used in "fueling" your "body", why do you think you
consistently deceive your taste buds with your different mix of spices and
seasonings? And to continue, what would you, intuitively, rather eat, a
freshly picked fruit or some freshly deceased road kill. There is a reason
why your mind would choose one over the other and while we are on the
subject, Cow's Milk or Eggs are not to be consumed naturally either.
Vegetarianism receives a "bad rep" for a reason, mostly by showing radical
"PETA" members. Besides that, who do you think approved the "Food Guide
Pyramid"? Sure the stuff you should be eating is nearer to the bottom of
the pyramid, but which part of the pyramid do you draw your “main course"
from?
If you research properly, you will see that some major "important"
human philosophers, scientists, physicists, and the like, did not consume
meat. There is a reason for that, most of it being ethical but do not
mistake, it did help them accomplish what they did. But seriously, have
you ever even thought to check where you meat comes from, how it is
processed, and how those animals are really treated. Some of you would be
shocked, but the less developed would adopt an "I don't care" type of
attitude.
That said, not being a Vegetarian doesn’t affect you much
spiritually here, but it comes into play in the later "levels". Physically
and mentally are two different stories. Do your own research and you'll
see what I am talking about.

Q: Was the holocaust real in the way it is presented?

A: There are some discrepancies in the details, but overall yes.

Q: You say that you're the good guy here to help, so if you're the good
guy who's the bad guy?

A: There are no "Good guys" or "Bad guys". Just beings playing the role
that they are assigned.

Q: Do you believe that we only reincarnate into the future, and not
into the past. Can we in your opinion reincarnate into past (by our
understanding of time in our 3d bodies now) bodies.

A: As far as I am aware of Time Travelers (Into the past) do not exist.

Q: “I do not need to "hide behind proxies". In fact I only use two, and
both are at public venues. I have been to both, one yesterday and one
today. These are the only two I will be using, the moderators will know
for sure.”
Does your theory of reincarnation, need to follow what we perceive
to be time, as going from past to what we think of our future?

A: In a certain respect, yes.

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Q: What can we do to further the development of our souls?

A: Again, learn who you are, where you are, and why you are here.

Q: What is YOUR definition of a "Soul"?

A: In my "dictionary": Soul- An entity who is apart of the Supreme One,

but for a time, is or has participated in the "Game of Creation", no
matter what role it plays.

Q: In Your Opinion, will I better achieve my Goals with Commonly

Accepted Symbols of Power or Symbols that contain more Meaning to MYSELF?

A: Again there are issues afoot mostly regarding to what I have termed
the "Objective World" and the "Inner World" but I would still definitely
the latter...it really does depend of Which Symbols of Power you are
referring to.

Q: Does a Majority of The Outer World (Terra) have to forgive you or

can you be forgiven by A More Dominant Being?

A: All must forgive, that is non-negotiable. To pardon other is to

pardon yourself. Unforgiveness is very selfish and anyone who neglects to
forgive will be here until they learn otherwise.

Q: From what You Understand, Can I better Balance My Knowledge and

Wisdom through a Proper Diet or am I More Tuned to my 'Spirit' through
Fasting?

A: Proper eating habits will help you mentally and physically, but not
much spiritually. And fasting is only perceived as helping you, mentally
and physically, because you have stopped poisoning yourself.

Q: Is the Bible relevant to this discussion at all? I assume it is as

much as you speak of free will. You say it has been altered, can you point
us to the true Laws it contains?

A: Like I stated before, it is not in your best interest to look

outside yourself for advice of a Spiritual nature. Even if you did find
what you are looking for, you are less likely to put it into practice.
Knowing is one this, but doing (more accurately: Being) is another story.
To "Practice what you preach" is hard to do if you weren’t the one
preaching. Leave the physical outer world, and go towards the spiritual
inner world.

Q: Are you implying that those bloodlines are not reptilian?

A: Not only do I mean to imply that, I will state it directly: The

Bloodline are not reptilian. Icke is going up the wrong tree.

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Q: Can you post a brief explanation of your duties or work?

A: The only reason I am here is to help you see what you are.

Q: Do you work with world leaders?

A: I work directly with your kind in general on a more personal level.

I drop clues to those who I come into contact with and ask me about my
demeanor. I can be called a "counselor" of sorts. You'd know what I mean
if we were to cross paths.

Q: So the hexagon shape on Saturn’s pole is not a part of its

composition?

A: No it is apart of its composition, but it is designed to be that

way. The elders have been there for quite some time.

Q: OK a few more about Saturn. Does its tilt at 27º mean that Saturn is
in perfect balance? If earth is at 23.5º does that mean that the earth is
not in perfect balance? If so does that have any affect on the human
condition?

A: The axial tilts of a planet have little to do with anything

meaningful. And no, it does not have an effect on the human condition

Q: Are the elders human?

A: No.

Q: 3.Is this a relevant question?

A: No, but to answer the first to, being chipped is actual a reality
but for practical purposes only. Don’t concern yourself with it though, if
the time comes when you have to make the choice to "be chipped" or not
(regardless of the consequences), simply do as you wish.

Q: I think it’s obnoxious to think that you know everything,

A: Wow I wasn’t going to respond to anymore posts of this sort but this
is a very interesting statement indeed...but alas, I am genuinely confused
so maybe you can "enlighten" me. When did I say, or even allude, to the
idea that "I know everything"? Please tell me because I really would like
to know.
You do have the right idea though, because anyone who would dare
make such a statement is a liar and a hoax, but I did not and I am
neither.

Q: So we should:
A) Fear the coming of 2012
B) Live in fear of the Swine Flu
C) Live in fear of Alien Invasion
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 And we should not:
A) Read anything which might help us understand our relation to our
internal, spiritual universe.
This is what I've gathered from your posts so far.

A: Really? Because, except for that last part, I stated quite the
opposite. And I believe explained why you should not do the last statement
in an earlier response. What are you seeing now?

Q: I don't really want to be Cryptic, but once you reach a Certain

point in Life and Experience enough then You step into 'it' Big and join
the Inside Circle of the Cosmic Joke. Kind of like a movie that I
'Watched' that came out a while ago. Anyway, I'm not going to Forsake my
own Happiness and that of the Ones that I Love just to Directly Answer
someone’s' Question and Neither will the OP. Believe me I want nothing
more than to share with Everyone my Intimate understanding of Karma's
Workings, but Our 'SoL' R Binary and will only let me define what isn't. I
really Hope that helps.

A: Exactly.

Q: “Ha! I know it seems suspicious, but In all Honesty I've been

lurking this Site for at least three years. I had another account that I
created Sometime in March, but that was a hectic time for me and I can't
Remember My Password, or the Email I used. You can look it up though. I
think the Name was just "Dreammaker". Besides, I like this Name better.”
Don't worry about it, I was only joking, I know about losing
passwords and emails also. You did not have to explain anything to me,
though. It’s just that you both sound so in tune, if you know what I mean.

A: Perhaps there is a reason for that; hmmm...could it possibly be that

we "know" something that you "don't"?

Q: Are you still a part of the Luciferian Bloodline? If so, has there
always been a positive faction or was the positive side introduced
sometime recently? If you are not part of the Luciferian Bloodline, when
was your bloodline introduced here on Earth?

A: I am not apart of "Lucifer". There are a few like me on this planet,

and we do not all have the same "Bloodline".

Q: Referring to the Hidden Hand post.. he/she states during the coming
Harvest there will be a three way split. The Negative will join Lucifer's
soul group in 4th density negative, which will (if anyone) accompany those
going to 4th density positive,

A: There are already beings awaiting those who will be coming to 4th
Density, and a few that will be coming to help out there also, so nobody
will be needed to "accompany" anyone, although beings like me might decide
to go along to.

Q: Who will accompany the 'lukewarm' and provide them with the catalyst
while they repeat the cycle?

A: Does it matter? You most likely won't even notice the switch anyway.
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Q: Is 2012 the correct year of Harvest?

A: Why are you concerned? Does it even matter?

Q: What kind of changes (physical and spiritual) can we expect to take

place as we approach the coming Harvest? How soon will the physical
changes (i.e., earthquakes, tsunamis, extreme weather) start to take
place?

A: Well, as far as physical goes, you'll see some dramatic climate

changes, raging storms, etc. basically what you are hearing about not only
5-10x worse.
How soon? It really is of little value to you. Do not be concerned
about that which is happening around you, work on yourself.

Q: What will happen to my cats during the upcoming harvest? Do they

graduate to a 4th density cycle (kitty heaven or kitty hell)?

A: That's a funny question but they will stay here. There will be
animals in 4th Density though if that’s what you wish to know.

Q: What is the significance of the number 13? More specifically, 12+1.

A: Hmm interesting, I didn't expect "you people" to know anything about

the role numbers play...why do you want to know? Are you planning on
performing a ritual?

Q: Why does there need to be a bad guy?

A: In reality: There is no "Bad guy"

But perception wise, well they show you what you aren’t, as opposed
to what you are.

Q: And isn't good guy / bad guy extremely subjective?

A: Yes.

With that last question answered, that is the end of my time today.
I'll be back tomorrow. thank you all your productive questions.
Good Night.

reply posted on 19-11-2009 @ 11:40 AM by Illuminator13

I was looking through the beginning of this thread, to see if I

missed any questions, and I have made a grave mistake that needs to be
corrected.
It would seem that I misinterpreted a question at the beginning of
this discourse and there is a reason for my mistake and now I completely
understand why I received the reaction I did a few days ago.
Here is the question and my subsequent response:

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Q: You say that most of the subjects here are "nonsense".

A: All the ones that pertain to "Alien Invasion", "2012 Apocalypse",

"Swine Flu" and the like. Most others are completely irrelevant to your
lives personally.

Now, what needs to be understood is that I am reading and answering

these questions as fast as possible. When I saw this question I read what
I had wrote and somehow assumed that the asker was asking me to elaborate
on the subjects I believed were "nonsense". I blazed through that question
and while reading the question I, in some twisted way, added the word
"don’t" before hold. I accept the fact that a mistake was made, and it
most likely has had a negative effect on this discourse. A few members of
this site have pointed that out in some of their statements, which I
ignored for the fact that I know I would never knowingly give that answer
to a question of that nature, because it wouldn’t be true. Those who
oppose that statement from the onset are wise, because if I did in fact
support that view, I would be a "hoax" and a "fraud". Those who have
continued onward in this discourse can be sure, from my answers, that this
is not the case. If I could go back and "edit" what I stated I would, and
I would put this explanation there too, but I cannot. As I have said
throughout my messages here, and I will state it again for certainty: Do
not worry about the before mentioned topics that I stated. They are of no
use to you, at this point in time, and hold no relevance to your lives
personally.

Now, that said, I will answer that question again, and right:

Q: Which subjects hold merit?

A: Only the ones that hold a practical value, not theoretical. If it

promotes Fear, Terror, or "doom" do not promote it or even believe it.
This "World" was not meant to "end" the way most are describing.

Now, I will continue to answer the questions.

Q: Let's say a farmer plants a crop of corn, waters it and cares for it
for a season, then rips the resultant corn from the stalk and eats it.
From the perspective of the corn, is the farmer a good guy or a bad guy?
Though I'll grant that I hope this is not a good analogy for our
particular situation.

A: No it wasn’t a good analogy, but is was a pretty funny concept.

First off Corn does not have a "perspective". Its sole purpose is to
be used as "fuel" in the "body" of whatever eats it. While it is
"conscious" to a certain degree, it is nothing like the "conscious" you,
or I, experience. Think of it like this, in a modern day video game, more
specifically an RPG; there are certain items in place whose sole purpose
is to benefit the "Character" or "Player" of the game. Say if, while
playing the said RPG, you acquire a baseball bat, and you use it on an
"enemy" and it breaks in two. Does that mean the person who broke the bat
is "bad"? No, because the baseball bats sole purpose was to be used in the
"game" to benefit the player, so really there is no harm done here. There
is a good reason why fruits and vegetables do not have Central Nervous
Systems, Nerve Endings, or a Brain. While it was not happened to me
personally, I am relatively sure that that being eaten "alive" is not a
peaceful or pleasant occurrence; hence the reason why certain things are
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lacking in certain areas of their existence...and you would be surprise to
know how closely our “reality” resembles modern day video games.

Q: I wondered about the soul status of animals also. Where do they fit
in?

A: They are "conscious" to an extent, some more than others, but aren’t
here for the same reason you are.
They are here to act as an early Catalyst, if you want to develop
your Compassion before the 4th Density. Why do you think people get so
upset when the see a suffering animal? Compassion.
Now to mention, if you look beyond the prisons called "Zoo's", most
are pretty awesome looking and acting.

Q: That may be, but if it's truly our choice, then couldn't we choose
to not have a bad guy?

A: Of course you can, and it is highly recommended that you don’t try
to be a "Bad Guy", its counterproductive to why you are here and will
ensure you being here for quite a long time.

P.S.: all of my edits are for spelling purposes only. I have seen that
"you people" place high emphasis on spelling, but it is not possible for
me to answer as fast as possible without suffering some spelling errors,
as I am sure you make the same mistakes. The thoughts come as fast as I am
typing them. Sorry for any misspellings.

Q: What is your thought about planning and not caring?

A: Planning and caring is one thing, incessant preoccupation and

worrying is another. You do realize that these things will happen
regardless of what you "plan" right? Even so, the fact still remains that
the things which you are worrying about have not even come to fruitation
and you have more important things to be doing at the moment. I suggest,
yet again, instead of focusing on the "Objective ("Outer") World" you
should put more emphasis and work into your "Subjective ("Inner") World".

Q: Should we plan and make sure the plan follows or should we just go
with the flow and not worry about a thing?

A: Definitely the latter.

Q: Have we made a plan before we were born?

A: Yes but, as you surely realize, plans never work out as planned.
Especially when you "forget" the plan once you have gotten to your
destination.

Q: Are there "pre-programmed" occurrences that push us towards the

accomplishment of this plan?

A: Yes. But you, as a general population, don't pay enough attention to

them.
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Q: Is there such a thing as failing or not meeting our full potential
while we exist as what we are now?

A: Yes. It happens all the time, but you don’t need to meet your "full
potential" to "pass this level", and most won't meet that potential
anyway.

Q: What do you think about randomness?

A: If everything that you did or that happened to you was "preplanned",

you wouldn't have much choice in the matter now would you?

Q: How do you equate the relation between free will and determinism?

A: A false philosophical concept taught to the less developed. There is

a reason why I have repeatedly told you people not to go to outside
sources for information of this sort. Once the wrong information is
engrained at a "Subconscious" level, its pretty much "game over", at least
this time...until the "restart" button is pressed.

Q: Forgive me, my friend if I sound naive but should we as a species be

living in accordance with the universal laws?

A: What an important question, but it will never happen. If you did,

there would be "World Peace" and that’s not what this place was designed
for. There is a reason why all "World Peace" demonstrations, arguments and
declarations fall on deaf ears.

Q: Do we have an expiration date set for the vessel that we are

currently utilizing?

A: Not a "set" date, but if it wasn’t already completely obvious, it

will happen eventually, "immortals", in a physical 3rd Density sense,
don’t exist. And Comte de Saint-Germain did not live as long as his
followers believe, although he was an interesting character.

Q: Can Karma be zeroed out various times in one life time?

A: No, you will have to "do your time".

Q: What is the purpose of Karma?

A: Not its original name, but it Balances and is used as a guideline of

how much "punishment" you receive if you break the Laws.

Q: Does Karma imply the existence of a higher or absolute morality?

A: What do you think?

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Q: If you see the future, how should you act to make it happen?

A: Ok, "seeing the future" is a concept that is grossly misinterpreted

and this is where many "Prophets" fail. This Galaxy runs on a "Cyclical",
rather than "Linear", "schedule", just to put that out there. To predict
"Linear" time would be all but impossible, because it would follow in a
straight line and not repeat therefore allowing for a infinite number of
occurrences to happen from one moment to the next, basically why Quantum
Mechanics would be right...if the time we ran on WAS Linear, but its not.
Now, if the knowledge of a "Cyclical Cycle" is passed down, it is possible
to make extremely good "educated guesses" as regarding what is going to
happen. Not perfect by any means, but still relatively accurate. If you
are not educated in the real nature of this Galaxies "Time table" do not
attempt to make guesses and go public, you will most likely be wrong and
be made a fool of.

Q: What would you say about one that is choiceless?

A: No, but some would love for you to believe that. You know you have a
choice, even if other tells you that you do not. Who do you place your
trust in, yourself or others?

Q: Is error limited to the human experience?

A: No. You'd be surprised at how many mistakes others make, even me I

made one with a earlier question but it was corrected, especially animals.
example: Road kill.

Q: What do you think of David Icke?

A: A tool being used. Passing along a message of fear, paranoia,

distrust, and disrespect. Not to mention those "dreadful" reptilians that
some believe exist and run this planet. But, he really does think he's
"spreading the truth", although that is FAR from the truth.

Q: What’s the purpose of development?

A: Elaborate, that question is too general for me to answer without

doing a bad thing.

Q: Is there an end to development?

A: Yes, to a certain extent.

Q: Do you see capitalism being maintained for many life times on Earth?
Do you know about any other political-economical systems which have
not yet been explored by humans in a social or ideological sense? If so,
could you give details about such system(s)?

A: All of these are pretty irrelevant, as you are in no position to

capitalize on anything that would be answered here. It’s of no practical
use to you at all.
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Q: What do you think about a one world government?

A: Don't fear that which you do not understand.

Q: Do you reckon that decentralization of power (in a political sense)

on Earth will be a commonality soon?

A: Yes.

Q: Will you now stay longer to answer the questions in the queue, no
offence to the people that had there questions answered straight away but
there a plenty still waiting for answers

A: No. I can only be here until Tomorrow then it is done, sorry. I will
attempt, tomorrow, to only answer the most "cause-furthering" questions
and skip all the rest. You people are good question askers, a very
insightful bunch.

Q: How can I make the best of this experiential opportunity? What is

the BIG tip that you would give to improve our experience here (besides
knowing and acting upon who we are, where we are and why we are here)?

A: I'll put it like this, and it’s very simple: Always attempt to do
the "right thing". Don't come back with some "Oh what's the right
thing!?!?” Why? Because you know what it is.

Q: What technique or method you would suggest for us to figure out all
that we need to know?

A: Listen to your "Inner Voice".

Q: Is there anything that we can possibly lose?

A: I wouldn’t say that directly but, in a way, yes.

Q: How can I tell what is me and what is not me?

A: You have to figure that one out for yourself, once you do find out,
you'll see how simple it was the whole time.

Q: What makes existence manifest itself?

A: The Power of Thought.

Q: What is the first cause?

A: The Supreme One wishing to experience itself.

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Q: What’s better than water?

A: Freedom.

Q: What is the one book that you would take to a deserted island?

A: Easy, The Rules of Life by Richard Templar.

Q: Who is the greatest personality that ever put his feet on Earth?

A: No individual should ever be placed above the whole.

Q: Is there an uncertain outcome for the future?

A: Ultimately, no.

Q: Is the prime determinant in any outcome up to us? Our individual

personal power?

A: Ultimately yes and yes.

Q: Is this bloodline you speak of the most current planetary origins,

older or alternate or augmented/engineered biology?

A: Depends...what planet are you talking about?

Q: Is this bloodline actually capable of exacting their desires, plans

or destiny?

A: Yes.

Q: Do they have sufficient ability to overtake our own species/

bloodlines largely unrecognized abilities and qualities. (Homoluminous
included)

A: The plan is not to "overtake" anything. I hope your not tuning into
that Icke guy or the Laura Knight-Jadczyk character.

Q: What are our best abilities to focus on in determining our futures?

A: Making choices.

Q: Why does the world seem to have got real crazy in the last decade or
so?

A: It's always been "crazy", you just haven’t been around in enough
time periods to notice.

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Q: Why do you assume we're all boxed in?

A: I was speaking not so much in the individual sense, but generally

speaking. Almost all the "World" is in the "Box" that I mentioned some
more than others. Although there are a few "awake" people around, there
are far less than has been claimed.

Q: Does Obama play apart in your plans?

A: The same part that all the other puppets play. Its funny how a lot
of "Conspiracy Theorists" make the claim that the current leader is trying
to "Rule the world" or is the "Anti-Christ", but when that said leaders
time is up and they leave office what do they do next? They just slap the
same old label on the new puppet, not aware of what’s really going on. The
Bloodline has been in power for thousands of years, yet it always seems to
be the current Leader/Figure who is the "Bad Guy", but that’s done on
purpose of course...Hmmm, I think I'll give you a good hint for those of
you who think the president makes all of the decisions alone, do you even
know the names of the people on his cabinet?

Q: Can we as human beings of the planet Earth claim it as ours?

A: Claim whatever you like, but that won't make it true,

Q: In light of your question to us, will Biden become president within

the next year?

A: He will if Obama is assassinated, and people are planning on making

attempts, but that probably isn’t going to happen within the next year, if
ever. And I sure hope it doesn’t, he is a good hypnotist.

Q: Do our souls travel from planet to planet gaining strength and

knowledge until we reach our ultimate goal of ruler of the universe?

A: No, as far as I know of, you stay where you are to accomplish the
tasks that you are here to do.

Q: How do we free ourselves from space time?

A: "Win" the "Game".

Q: When you die do you remember your loved ones or does it all go away?

A: A part of you always does, but you consciously forget when you come
back (assuming you have not "beat the level").

Q: Are you and your "family" just a bunch of crazy psychopaths with
tons of money, planting all these horrendous conspiracy theories about
yourself so that once sheeple wake from their stupor they fall into
paranoia?
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A: No. Most people do it to themselves by listening to outside sources
and they never really "awake" from their "stupor", they merely "change
positions" in their "sleep". It's a condition that is no better, but could
arguably be worse, than the position they originally were in.

Q: You said you hope it doesn't because he is a good hypnotist, what is

your interest or agenda here?

A: He is a good hypnotist and I do not wish "death" upon anyone on this

earth. I am here to help you.

Q: What is the significance of the "yuga" that are mentioned Hindu

philosophy??? How do they tie in with the so called "Harvest mentioned on
a few places on this site?

A: It runs along the same lines of all "End time scenarios". Most
people in the western hemisphere associate, what is happening, with their
respective religions. The truth is contained within Sacred Texts, as
within yourself, but in the case of the texts it is hidden in a forest of
darkness while inside yourself, you hide it from yourself (with a little
Catalyst help of course.)

Q: Some Buddhism from you, Illuminator13? Interesting!

A: Buddhism is corrupted, and I wouldn’t accept any promoted "Religion"

or "Dogma". It’s all been tampered, if not out rightly created, by the
Bloodline.

Q: Does our (soul's) future depend on ourselves (individually) or

collectively on humanity?

A: Right now, Individually. Collectiveness, or Oneness, will occur

later.

Q: would we keep coming back on the Earth through reincarnations till

entire humanity reaches a certain level spiritually or would the
individual's cycle stop and move on as soon as the individual gathers and
understands everything he/she had predetermined to go through?

A: The latter.

Q: if you are here to help, why not tell us all you can without
crossing those boundaries which you are scared (sorry might not be the
right word) of.

A: I have been and I am not "scared" of any boundaries, I do respect

and honor them. There is a big difference between adhering to something
because you are scared of it and adhering to the same thing because you
respect and honor it. It’s the main reason why children who get "beat" for
doing wrong continue to do so. Besides I fear nothing, because there is
nothing to be feared.

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Q: So Hidden Hand was Boodline, and you are a walk in, can you explain
the circumstances around your walk in?

A: To help you see what you are through my actions.

Q: How does one measure spiritual understanding of these concepts you

write about?

A: Take what resonates, discard the rest.

Q: As a walk in are you limited by the shell you walked into?

A: Physically, yes.

Q: what happens or happened to the one you replaced?

A: Ok I think I understand what you are asking so let me make things

clear and simple: Beyond 5th Density you don’t have to have a "body" if
you don’t want to, but it is an option. I was a spirit who took the task
to come here and help you out. Although I could be likened to most of
those who dwell here, I "woke up" rather quickly and have been doing my
task every since.

Q: Is karma fair and created by the Supreme Creator, or is it the

creation of a lesser (neutral or evil) god?

A: There is nothing unfair about Karma, you get what you put out. You
can take responsibility for what you did and received or you can play the
"Why does this always happen to me?" victim role.

Q: If we are bound by the laws of karma and reincarnation, how can it

be fair when people are kept in the dark about it for lifetimes, and
believe they never have to pay for anything they can get away with in this
life?

A: Because they don’t seek understand and then they don’t "level up" so
in their next life they are repaid for what they did and they cry "poor
me", but they can choose to make things better by doing what that are here
to do.

Q: And when we are programmed with an instinctual nature which compels

us to create bad karma for ourselves (plus the negative influence of our
culture)?

A: Your not, but you are conditioned to believe so. And they "negative
influences" are there to show you what you are not.

Q: How important is the power of visualization and intent?

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A: Most will never be able to make Physical Visualization
Manifestations here, if that’s you are asking, so the power is relatively
unimportant.
Intent is imperative and there is no reason, not matter what you do,
what happened to you and how you feel, to harbor a negative intent towards
anyone or anything. Sure, accidents do happen and they do harm your
record, but they are less damaging if you meant well and did not preplan
whatever you did.,

Q: “Buddhism is corrupted, and I wouldn’t accept any promoted

"Religion" or "Dogma". Its all been tampered, if not out rightly created,
by the Bloodline.”
Corrupted or not it often says exactly what you've just said, “out
rightly” created by “the bloodline” or not. Correct? And, fellow observer;
belief in reincarnation or the cessation of the cycle of birth, life,
death and rebirth due to enlightenment is a dogma, no matter if it's you,
an organized religion, or a silent conglomeration of 13 foot desert
cactuses saying it.

A: For the most part. And I meant Dogma in the sense of a group or
"congregation" type of agreeance, as in a group of people coming together
to organize what is "right" and "wrong”. Think Council of Nicea.

Q: Is this why we are only required to settle 51% of our karmic debts?

A: Because that, in itself, is hard enough to do. This "game" is

supposed to be difficult, but not impossible.

Q: Is the only way out of our karma to ascend, or can we choose another
path, and can a higher spiritual being choose to take on our karmic debts
for us?

A: As far as I know, bettering yourself and making better choices is

the only way. And no "higher spiritual being" would choose to relieve you
of your debts, you have to take responsibility.

Q: Assuming that you are familiar with the concept of the WANDERERS,
are there any examples of sixth density negatively polarized wanderers in
our historical past, considering ours to be a third density world?

A: To an extent, yes. And not that I am aware of.

Q: What is the best way to recover from severe depression, to the point
where the person can't even feel most feelings anymore?

A: Simply choose to look on the "brighter side" of things. Do allow

negativity to become your primary mode of operation, be grateful for your
life, and figure out why you are here.

Q: I take it that you don't want to answer my question, or have you

missed it by a chance? <-- now is that an question?
My original question was not really about what you like about the
person of his, but rather the message.
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A: I am either not that far into the questions yet or I missed it.
I have seen some of Krishnamurti's works, interesting in a
philosophical way. I am not going to say he is 'barking up the wrong tree"
but figuring things out for yourself is a better route to go.

Q: What is in store for humanity?

A: Nothing to be afraid of, regardless of what others tell you.

Q: I've invested a lot of what I am into loving and living for my

family in this "reality", as that is what makes me happiest. Can I stay
attached to their souls? As I dig them quite a bit.

A: Of course you can. Emotion is here for a reason, if you weren’t

supposed to care or love people on this planet, the emotion would be here.

Q: When passing on spiritual info to friends that I find truthful and

interesting am I breaking A Law and will it have karmic influence on me
and them

A: It all depends on how much you have told them. They have to learn on
their own and they will, in their own time. Keep it simple and don’t go
into detail. If your seen a "Cryptic" or "Evasive" then it is good (Like
me earlier in this thread basically) because you know why you do what you
do. If they want detail, I would tell them to go beyond the superficial
into their "Inner World."

Q: Would you consider earth more boarding school as opposed to a prison

A: This place can be seen as 3 different things in 3 different

respects.
A Prison because you are not free to leave unless you "do your time"
in a manner of speaking. This is generally what the "lesser developed" see
it as, because they see all the negativity and they know they can't "Exit
the Matrix" like in the movies.
A School because well...what are schools for?
A Game because if you look closely. Well you'll get the picture. The
Bloodlines go along this path, because they are on the "up and up" and
they know who they are what they are here to do, why they are here to do
it. So, while you’re at it, why not have "fun" with it?

Ok, time up for today.

Tomorrow will be the last day I can answer questions, so I will

answer those which I deem to be of, more or less, importance.
Have a good afternoon and night.

reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 09:47 AM by Illuminator13

I Wish To Light Up The Darkness That Surrounds Their Being, Supreme 1

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Q: I know for a fact that some of the replies posted on this thread are
untruths.
Some of the things said can be picked up from anywhere, just read a
few posts on some of the threads on ATS and you get the general idea...any
fool could purport to being an illuminati / informed being / spiritual
being in human disguise or anything else for that matter.
Furthermore though there are some powerful bloodlines, they aren't
the deciders, just slightly higher up puppets on the puppet scale. They
too are shielded from the most sacred knowledge and power.
This OP really and truly appears to be an attempt at deceit to those
willing to listen and it very much reminds me of a forum once where some
of the posters were so egotistical and couldn't stand their posts being
disagreed (probably a medical condition) that they used their ISP multiple
email address / screen name facility to the max and were found to be
posting to themselves with self appreciating remarks pertaining to be from
some other poster...the entire charade was a totally fictional ego fest
and this looks entirely the same.
One would presume posters on ATS would be more wary of such pretence
given the nature of conspiracy theories and the fact that most are /
should be looking for reality in very real terms.

A: I really do not have time for this verbal swordfight, but it would
seem that I must.
First Statement: What an interesting sentence, one that anyone who
disagrees with my message could say by the way. But the interesting part
about it is the fact that you made that statement, but did not provide any
examples to support it. One would think that if you truly believed in what
you said, you would have at least given one example and an explanation as
to why it is an "untruth"...especially on my last day here...interesting,
but you are still open to provide an example, before my last post, so I
can look at it, but I am sure you wont.
Second Statement: Again, you make statements but provide no examples
as to why it is the case. Do you have a "hidden" agenda here? No, I
believe it is pretty much out in the open.
Third Statement: You are correct, there are some powerful
Bloodlines, who are not the "deciders" (to use your term), I could have
told you that though.
Fourth Statement: Again you are shifting the conversation to these
vague "other threads". You are subtlety implying that I am doing exactly
what the "stated" (even though it was not) threads OP did. Now, I have
stated that I was using two ISP addresses, and the moderators surely know,
and I have no need for multiple accounts, which they would know if I had
any. I am in full control of my "ego" but I seriously doubt you are.
Fifth Statement: You are clearly attempting to persuade the readers
into your non-productive line of thinking by indirectly stating that if
they do not agree with what you are saying they are not "wary of such
pretence given the nature of conspiracy theories and the fact that most
are / should be looking for reality in very real terms.” Do you put out
propaganda for a living? Perhaps U.S. Army Psychological Operations
(PsyOps)?

Q: You mentioned the supreme one before. (Again) Who and/or what is the
supreme one?

A: The One who created this "game" and the One who you will be
returning to once you complete it.

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Q: How would a person know that they have accomplished all their
lessons for this cycle?

A: You wouldn’t know until after you "died" or until the Great Harvest
comes.

Q: After you're gone, this great information ceases. We understand

about seeking within for the answers. But are there any books, information
that would provide us more information? Where should we look?

A: There are some, but I would really rather tell you to look to your
"Inner" self for guidance. Many call it your "conscience"

Q: Is sex, self gratification and thoughts on this subject a hindrance

to our spiritual growth?

A: Not if you do not overindulge, let it take over your life, or allow
it to dictate your choices. Use temperance.

Q: Did we have a choice to come to this prison planet (veil of

forgetfulness)? Is this a privileged place to be? If not, what horrible
things did we do to get here?

A: I would not call it a prison. You chose to come here, to develop

yourself. You did no "horrible things"

How many dimensions and densities are there?

A: There are Octaves. If you complete this one you can either, be
reunited with the Supreme One or go on the next adventure, or Octave.

Q: Will suicides be punished in any other way than just losing one
incarnation?

A: All I’m going to say is that life is "Sacred". Never "take yourself
out of the game"

Q: Is helping others in their spiritual growth important to our growth?

A: Helping others in general is important.

Q: Are we all alien souls from different planets who chose to represent
and take back our lessons to them or are we taking it back to the source?

A: No.

Q: Has Military (or elite) time traveled using alien technology to our
past and changed the course of history to their own benefit?

A: Not to say they haven’t toyed with the idea, but the answer is no.
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Q: Will 4th dimension have a concept of time?

A: If you mean time as in how you perceive it to be now, then no.

Q: Also, do you recruit?

A: No. There is nothing for me to recruit for; I have no intention on

becoming some "Idolized" guru.

Q: So if we are being warned about an upcoming ascension to a new

dimension or w/e, they are leaving out the fact you must die to attain
this

A: That is exactly what "Heavens Gate" thought; you witness what became
of that. No, dying is not necessary if you go in the Harvest.

Q: When we re-incarnate, do we have a choice on the lessons?

A: Yes, but as I stated before, you will be, more or less, "challenged"
by the other lessons as well.

Q: How can I contact beings smarter than myself to assist me?

A: Don't.

Q: Is it counter productive if I try to find out through past life

hypnosis? Will I be just creating some fiction in my mind?

A: Yes. And I can't be positive about that because the hypnotist could
also create "false memories".

Q: Are there Intra Terrestrials underground (Reptilian / Draconian) -

Are we food to them?

A: No you are not food to them.

Q: I'm doing my best to eliminate any negative actions towards others.

Not because I'm afraid of a God or Hell, but simply because it’s the right
thing to do and the right path towards a better life for the people
surrounding me.

A: I’m sorry, I'm moving fast. But if you really think and follow that
last statement, then you are doing fine.

Q: Is it logical to assume that a human living on earth during this

time has been reincarnating as a human onto earth for quite a while now
because he/she has still not learned the lessons necessary to ascend to a
fourth density?

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A: Yes.

Q: If "thought" is "creation", and this creation affects every aspect

of our reality, then is it possible that a vast amount of like-minded
souls could change the present reality as we know it?

A: Possible, yes.

Q: If this body is what holds us, is there a way to transcend it?

A: Not if you haven’t figured out and live according to the lessons you
were supposed to learn.

Check your messages before you leave big guy!

I don't think I'll have time for that, but if I do I will.

Q: ATS was created for people already thinking outside the box.

A: No, they just got outside of "One" box, so to speak. I am sure most
of them are still in a "Box".

Q: I also want to know, can one repair upon past negative actions in
this lifetime? Is self judgment and repent enough? For example, every time
I stole, I add to the tally X amount of lifetimes.

A: In sense, no. You will have to pay for what you did to work off the
"negative karma". But do not continue to make the same mistakes.

Q: When does the polarity dilemma end? When we reunite with the source?

A: As you "move up" polarity plays less and less a role. And when you
"beat the game".

Q: I just read a thread by Hidden Hand and it looks practically the

same and probably the same person.
I get the feeling this person really yearns power and craves elitist
status.
Anyone who knows masonic law for example would know that it's a hoax
and those further up will know for certain that 'the Creator' hasn't
authorized such a blatant attempt at misleading well meaning truth seekers
on the path to enlightenment.
There are truths which most people know in some of these replies
though unlike Hidden Hand ''there will be a new currency in end of 2008
/early 2009'' prediction is being more vague.
Wonder if Hidden Hand / OP still has an opinion on whether San
Francisco and Damascus will still exist in 2010, which is in about 6
weeks... Hidden Hand doesn't think so!

A: 1.) I am not "Hidden Hand".

2.) That just goes to show how misguided your "feelings' are. I want
neither of those things.
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 3.) Really? Are you a Mason? What degree? Have you no respect, why
did you not capitalize Masonic Law?
4&5.) Apparently you don't "know" as much as you think you do, or
you would have realized predicting the future 100% is not possible. While
nobody should attempt to "predict" the future at all, if you know the true
nature of this Galaxies time, it is possible to give a more or less
accurate snapshot of what’s going to happen, but not the exact dates. He
was going off his own knowledge and maybe if he was "higher up" he could
have given you the predictions you obviously were looking for and desire,
but he was not.
"theabsolutetruth" your truth is far from "absolute" and your
username name is not only pretty arrogant, it implies something about your
true nature. You say I yearn for "Power" and crave "Elite Status", but are
you really telling the truth? Maybe its "Power" and "Elite Status" that
you desire, but, and I am glad for this, you are not going to achieve it.
Now I have had enough of this verbal swordsmanship and I won’t be
replying to any other posts from you, unless it’s the one about your lack
of examples. Have a good day, sir.

Q: When I meditate I call my "dead" father and daughter and get a HUGE
energy wave come through me and my skin is "on fire" and an overwhelming
feeling of love. Can you tell me what is happening pls, is it them ,is it
my higher self or is it something else altogether.
Many thanks

Q: That could be dangerous. I would try to make contact with the

"dead". While it is a possibility you reached them, it is more likely your
message was "intercepted". I cannot be certain, but it is what most likely
happened.

Q: Illuminator, are you part of the group that HIDDEN HAND speaks of?
Are there many groups? (Does it even matter)? Care to elaborate on
anything else he said? It seems in line with what you have been saying so
far.

Q: 1.) No, but I am in contact with them.

2.) Yes.
3.) No.

Q: if when we graduate up densities, and we become a group soul, does

that mean we will lose our consciousness as a single being?

A: If you concentrate, yes.

Q: What do you know about Supreme master ching hai, and the quan yin
method

A: I have not heard of those.

Q: regarding diet
i) Is Genetically Modified Food (GMO) as bad as meat?
ii) Sugars
do the above hinder or block us in our spiritual growth?

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A: No, but it does hinder you physically and mentally.

Q: HIDDEN HAND talked about the “Great Harvest” coming soon. Is this
the only time we “souls” are able to “move up the ladder” or is it
possible after every death?

A: No, but if you miss the Harvest it will be "harder".

Q: I would love to believe the op but I have some trust issues but I
will take in what u have said but I’m going to keep a open mind about it

A: I am not asking to be believed, and for the matter, I do not want to

be blindly believed. Take what you want from my messages and discard the
rest.

Q: I get the feeling that our bodies are like a space capsule. We see
with our eyes (camera’s that feed our soul information). We hear with our
ears (microphones that feed our soul information). We touch with our hands
and such (probes that feed our soul information). Ultimately we are not
actually “experiencing” any of these “senses” first hand. Is this right or
am I way off base?

A: Interesting. There is a "delay" between information sent and

received by the mind and the body. Look it up and you'll know what I mean.

Q: What about your demeanor is remarkable to our kind?

A: Well, I don't experience the "wide range" or "extremes" of emotion

that you do. I am pretty much on the positive side all the time. I have
never felt "Anger", "Hatred", "Rage", "Despair", "Depression" or any sort
of "bad" intend to be inflicted on another being. The worst I have
experienced is what you would term "Annoyance" and even then, if I
experience it, I will exit the situation. Not to mention I always "see the
bright side" of things. I am frequently questioned as to "Why I am happy
all the time?" my answer, and clue to them, "Because I choose to be."

Q: Have you heard of Dr. Brian Weiss?

A: I have not heard of him or read anything that he wrote, so I cannot

answer your question. That said, I will just say that it is not in your
best interest to accept information from "outside" sources.

Q: Does the practice of yoga have any spiritual benefits? For instance,
being able to connect with our spiritual side better.

A: No, but it does help the body and mind.

Q: IS there such a thing as a "soul mate"? If so, what is the true
purpose of "soul mates"? I've always thought this to be a contradiction to
the theory that we are all ONE. Which, if that is the case, EVERYONE is
everyone's "soul mate".

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A: See the truth is inside you. A "Soul mate" is, generally speaking, a
romanticized concept applied to a happy relationship. In reality, you have
thousands, if not ten of thousands, of "soul mates" (people you would be
extremely "compatible" with). You choose the qualities of a person you are
attracted to, and there will be thousands with those same qualities, which
you would find out if you "dated" a lot of people. That’s why when "soul
mates" die, the person typically will tend to meet another partner (If
they allow themselves to).

Q: Anyway, I'm not going to forsake my own Happiness and that of the
Ones that I Love just to Directly Answer someone’s Question and Neither
will the OP
Can you explain what that means? How will you forsake your own
happiness by directly answering someone's question?

A: Ok, I will state that "Karma" has a funny way of getting back at you
when you break a Law. While I do choose what I feel, if I go around
breaking the Laws, things can get pretty difficult for me. Besides that,
if I did break the Laws, I would be doing something contrary to my being,
and that could cause me some "disturbances".

Q: Is there cures for diseases such as type one diabetes that aren't
publicly available?

A: I do not work in any Government laboratories, so I honestly do not

know. Sorry

Q: Is it true that "alien" abductions are sometimes to try to trigger

advancement in the abductees?

A: The only person, who can "trigger" the advancement of oneself, is

oneself.

A: If we are to focus on what's happening in our vicinity/what's

important to us; what are we to consider if we have memories of "aliens"
walking us up at night and talking to us? (Not that I think aliens are
necessarily aliens mind you).
That situation wouldn't happen. Most likely, if that’s really what
you remember, you have False Memories.

Q: I have not heard of him or read anything that he wrote, so I cannot

answer your question. That said, I will just say that it is not in your
best interest to accept information from "outside" sources.
If this is so why would it be in our interest to accept information
from you then?

A: Like I stated in an earlier reply, there are people who can tell you
the truth but you are less likely to accept it as such if you do not see
it for yourself. You have to have a "Aha!" moment so to speak. Now I will
say this, do not accept my information on the premise that I am correct.
Ponder what has been said here, take what you resonates and discard the
rest. The same method could be used in other "Sacred Texts" and

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things confused and accept the wrong parts.

Q: Does seeing a set of numbers (111,222,333, etc) constantly on a

daily basis signify anything?

A: If you are seeing them constantly on a daily basis, yes. But if not
beware, you may be putting "value" on that which has none.

Q: I have a feeling I am here to wake myself up from this "illusion"

but in order to do that I must be willing to wake up others since we are
all one. Does this make sense?

A: Help others, yes. Wake them, no. They must do it for themselves, but
it is fine to "drop hints".

Q: Hello Illuminator13,
Would you agree that everything is relative to each other? What is
good/evil to some is not good/evil to others? Does this mean there is no
absolute good/evil?

A: Just tools so ultimately, yes.

Q: Will humanity ever grow up (say within the next few decades)?

A: This place is more so focused on the growth of "Individuals" as

opposed to the growth of humanity in general. One by one they all will
come.

Q: While on the subject of numbers --- could you tell how

numerology/astrology/palmistry/crystals tie into our lives?

A: The things you have listed have gone astray of their origins and
original purpose. They have been "commercialized" for the general
population so to speak. I wouldn't put much value on what’s being pushed
out, on these subjects, now.

Q: What happens to you when you die?

A: You "take a break" from this world. Death has been given a bad image
to scare people into fearing it. Just look at how death is personified by
the general population- A Grim reaper. The images places a bad picture of
death in the minds of those who see it. Really, death is not to be feared.

Q: hi...q. is it true that everything is connected to the point that

'ALL' is 'ONE' & 'ONE is 'ALL'?

A: Ultimately, yes.

Q: Why do you suggest not using "Mantras?" Do these actually work but
do so by inciting the assistance from demonic entities or entities that do
not have our best interest at heart?

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A: They have a tendency to numb the mind.

Q: Why do you and Hidden Hand capitalize certain letters? Is this some
kind of ritual?

A: No.

Q: Why do many groups and companies use common symbols like the all-
seeing eye and the triangle? Do these symbols help manifest success for
such groups?

A: 1.) To show who "has ownership".

2.) In a way, yes.

Q: Is the individual who uses the handle ET_MAN truly in contact with
extra-terrestrials that give him correct information?

A: I have seen the thread topic but I have not read its content, so I
really couldn’t tell you.

Q: Where do you currently reside? Is it above the surface or under the

surface? Is it on the planet?

A: I live on this planet and on its surface.

Q: Also, will we know when we have completed what we need to here? And
if not will we are just returning to try again?

A: In a way, you will know. And yes.

Q: I am confused by the way you have portrayed Yahweh. Is he actually

allowed to make decisions that are permanent? Can the Elders alter these
decisions, or is it a "once set, it is in stone" type of power?

A: 1.) No.
2.) Yes.

Q: Does part of the ascension process involve recognizing the

importance of smaller beings such as insects and pets?

A: Yes.

Greetings Illuminator13
I have enjoyed this thread. Thank you for your contributions.
A kind farewell

Q: For one that is in service to others, in your opinion what would be

the best methods of showing other selves what they are without using
manipulation, or breaking the laws?
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A: Your actions.

Q: In your opinion, what are the most beneficial ways of dealing with
an other self that tries to manipulate you without diminishing positive
polarity?

A: Acknowledge their negativity and simply pay it no attention. I

personally just leave the person/situation.

Q: In your opinion, is it our duty to experience all that we can?

A: Its optional, but not a duty.

Q: In your opinion, is it a better idea to pursue these goals alone or

seek the help of a clairvoyant psychic, or past life regression hypnosis?

A: Most "clairvoyant psychics" are frauds, and "past life regression

hypnosis" could be dangerous depending on who the practitioner is. My
advice, go it alone.

Q: In your opinion, is it best to pursue these goals intellectually or

to not pursue them and let it spiritually come to you naturally?

A: Actively pursue them.

Q: In your opinion, can catalyst only be negative to help positive

other selves realize what they are, what are forms of positive catalyst
that helps negative polarity other selves realize what they are as well?

A: Catalysts are neutral. It’s all what you decide it to be.

Q: Ok, OP. What role do the incarnates play in the big picture?

A: Different roles for different players. Cryptic, I know but your

question is too general.

Q: Are you familiar with the 11:11 time prompt phenomenon and if so
does it have any meaning? If so, what is the meaning for someone who
experiences this regularly?

A: Think of it as a Timer. What happens when the Timer goes off?

Q: A predecessor of yours suggested against joining "secret societies",

never, whatever the circumstances. I wondered what your take on this
advice is

A: Don't do it.

Q: And do you feel like Jesus in the book of Job?]

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A: I don't compare myself to anyone, including Yeshua.

Q: Forgive me, my friend if I sound naive but should we as a species be

living in accordance with the universal laws?

A: You could, but its not going to happen. "World Peace" is not a
possibility here, and it’s not supposed to be. This "World" is more a "One
on One" ordeal than humanity as a whole...work on yourself.

Q: How do we nurture our children’s spirituality effectively?

A: Don't hit them when they do wrong, for one. Now, unless you plan on
"home schooling" them and never letting them experience the "negativity",
they will be influenced. When they get older, it is their job to "conquer"
the "darkness" and set out on what they are here to do.

Q: two questions:
what is the best question we could ask?
what should we be concerned about?

A: 1.)Ok, the best questions have already been asked.

2.) I have answered that question on numerous occasions throughout
my time here.

Q: For some reason I've met most people during some difficult time in
their lives, and I am always compelled to help them thru, they on the
other hand feel they can open up to me from the very start, and I stay
around until things are good. When I notice the person is open enough to
hear, I convey the importance of contemplation and reason, on what a
wonderful playground we have at our disposal and that possibilities are
endless. Some hear it and some others chuckle. I fell it is right, but
would like your input please, is this the main deal why we are here?

A: Very interesting. If what you say is really the case, you may in
fact be here for the same reason I am, even if your not fully aware of it.
I would like to speak with you more, but that is not going to be possible.

Q: I am facing a dilemma now, the world is straying from reason, and a

selfish attitude is the new status quo. This hurts me, day in and day out
I feel like I’m being stabbed thru my 6 senses and empathy. It’s also
growing harder every day to avoid the poisons being pumped in our food and
environment.

A: Ok, if this is true then I am now pretty certain you are here for a
different reason than the others. Take heart in your endeavors and do what
you feel you must, comrad. Show them what they truly are.
Be A Lighthouse, Shining Through The Dark Sea That Is This World,
13.

Q: Should I quit reading here and just work on myself?

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A: No, but when your done decide for yourself the truthfulness of my
messages.

Q: What civilization are the ruins along the mid Atlantic ridge from?

A: One that you have heard of surely, but does it matter?

Q: Illuminator13,
I just realized something. You have the number 13 in your user id.
Usually, general people refrain from using that number due to the
negativity that has been attached to it from some time.
Anyways, is it supposed to signify something in your user id? (I
think its not a co-incidence). If yes, can you tell us --- what it
signifies?

A: The number 13 is far from negative. And although it does signify

something, am I going to tell you what it is, no.

Q: Can one beat the level by going to where the others reside?

A: No.

Q: So Hidden Hand was Bloodline, and you are a walk in, can you explain
the circumstances around your walk in?

A: I came here a short time ago because I knew "what time it was" and I
wanted to "help out".

Q: How does one measure spiritual understanding of these concepts you

write about?

A: Contemplate what is written, then take what you wish and discard the
rest.

Q: How do we bypass the beliefs of others, they are like security

blankets for people who choose not to think about the important things.
More importantly however is the question, should I even bother with people
who wrap their minds in beliefs?

A: Simply choose to do so. And you should to a certain extent. There is

nothing wrong with showing them what they are, as long as you do try to
"push" the truth onto them. They will resist, as they have been taught to
by their "Gurus".

Q: This game called life we play, like all games does it have
flaws/bugs/exploits that some people abuse?

A: There is a infinite number of possibilities afoot in this game, and

I wouldn't call them flaws.

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 Exploits do exist, by the lesser developed, the greedy and the
selfish, who know about the "game" and choose to take actions that only
benefit them. They do get "punished" for their misdeeds though, so it’s
not a wise thing to do.
"Bugs", or "glitches," also exist but on an individual basis. See,
if an infinite number of "random" possibilities are happening, then it
would be impossible to know what happens next, so glitches do happen, as
in any game, but they are not preconceived in any way, shape or form. The
path you walk takes shape as you walk it. I mentioned earlier that one
"glitches" is "Downsyndrome".

Q: Where does the soul reside, inside the physical hosts we call our
bodies or somewhere else, outside of the body?

A: To a certain extent, in your "physical" (Which you surely realize is

not a "solid" mass) body.

Q: What exactly is a brain, since it can die it must live and it needs
the body to live and the body needs the brain, very symbiotic. Also can
the soul be transferred from one physical body to another?

A: Think of the brain as a "video game controller" for the Soul.

And as far as I know of, no.

Q: What is happening to our sun?

A: I am guessing you noticed the lack of Sunspot activity recently. Do

not worry about it...

Q: How does one achieve the full potential? Are there signs or
experiences one should pay attention to?

A: Mostly likely, that won't happen right now. If you get into the
"Higher Levels" and choose to come back, you can attempt "Master" the
previous levels. It’s like a famous video game you probably know of: You
don’t have to collect all the stars to beat the game, but if you want to
you can "replay" levels to do so. SM64. I actually love that game
btw...off topic, I must keep focus.

Q: What exactly do you think we are being distracted from, almost

everything in "life" is a distraction, TV, games, books, sometimes we do
learn things from them but overall they serve more to distract and stop
thinking, which in my case serves me well at certain times?

A: Video Games, Political "Talk Shows", T.V. in general, Media,

Internet, etc. You should get the general idea. I cannot list them all
because I am almost out of time, sorry.

Q: I don't know for sure but check out the Flower of Life also.

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A: Don’t believe all of the stuff out there about Sacred Geometry,
there are some distortions.

Q: What exactly are hallucinations and why are so many military

organizations interested in them?

A: Hallucinations are more of a malfunction of the "Controller"

(Brain), cause by many factors such as drugs, prescriptions, etc, than
anything in a Spiritual sense. Although they can inhibit your growth if
they "break" the controller and you wont be able to use your body to
function properly, therefore effectively robbing you of any opportunities.
They want to study it and see if they can produce its effects in a
more "controlled" way.

Q: What if some people don't want "oneness"?

A: Your soul will always want oneness, but the "ego" (for lack of a
better term) would like to remain an "individual", which is why you must
keep it in "check"

Q: How does one properly respond to manipulation?

A: Know what it is, how to identify it and then ignore its attempts
when you recognize them. Reseach "Propaganda" and you'll get a good idea
on what to do.

Reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 01:41 PM by Illuminator13

Ok my time is just about up. I will be making one more post after
this and then I am gone.
I would like to thank you for your insightful questions, you are a
smart bunch, and I hope you figure out why you are here and live according
to its answers.
If any of you feel like passing this on to other boards and the
like, feel free to do so. It may take some to collate the answers so if it
is too much trouble, dont worry about it, this will reach who it’s meant
to.
I wish you well in your journey, have fun with it though, life isnt
meant to be serious all the time.
Goodbye

Reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 01:42 PM by Illuminator13

My Task Is Now Complete For Those with Hearts to Seek, Illuminator 13

Topic can be found here

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread519570/pg1

OneSeeker

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