pole:
A discursive investigation of the
reinvention of pole dancing as a
Tim Kurz
recreational
activity
School of Psychology
University of Exeter
My collaborators
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Kally Whitehead
Ngaire Donaghue
See Holland
(2010)
A rather contentious
issue
2000
Recreational Pole
Dancing:
Feminist
Ideological
On A
the
one hand
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Dilemma?
by women, of an
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Recreational Pole
Dancing:
On the other hand, however
A dancing
Feminist
Ideological
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as inherently
denigrating
and disempowering to women?
Dilemma?
n connection to patriarchal institutions may
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Our Study
(Whitehead & Kurz, 2009- F&P)
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Critical Respect?
(Gill, 2007
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Thus
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Methodology
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Participants
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20 women, 5 men
Method of Analysis
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Theoretical Assumptions
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Analysis
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3 main discourses:
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Fun/Fitness as a qualifier
for empowerment
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Fun/Fitness as a qualifier
for empowerment (extract 1)
Alice:
Kally:
Alice:
Kally:
Alice:
Kally:
Alice:
Fun/Fitness as a qualifier
for empowerment (extract 2)
Kally:
Helen:
Kally:
Helen:
Kally:
Helen:
So so leading on from that actually (.) what do you think (.) like what
would you say to someone who said to you that pole dancing (.)
not just professionally but learning it like this is degrading to
women?
No way.
No?
Nah (.) no way (.) not degrading at all (.) it's fun. It's something
different and it's a bit of fun and (.) there's nothing wrong with
having a bit of fun (h).
Yeah so (.) okay what about if they said it the other way? What if they
said that it's empowering?
A::h (.) yeah (h) (.) yeah it is (.) it's um (0.5) yeah it's sort of like (.)
it's sort of like artistic sort of thing (.) it's like dancing it's just like
any normal dancing (.) but you (.) there's a pole involved. Its (.) it
takes a lot of skill and (.) confidence and um (.) not everyone can
do it.
One-occasion pole dancer
interview 2
A rhetorically self-sufficient
argument
Kally:
Helen:
Kally:
Helen:
Kally:
Helen:
So so leading on from that actually (.) what do you think (.) like what
would you say to someone who said to you that pole dancing (.)
not just professionally but learning it like this is degrading to
women?
No way.
No?
Nah (.) no way (.) not degrading at all (.) it's fun. It's something
different and it's a bit of fun and (.) there's nothing wrong with
having a bit of fun (h).
Yeah so (.) okay what about if they said it the other way? What if they
said that it's empowering?
A::h (.) yeah (h) (.) yeah it is (.) it's um (0.5) yeah it's sort of like (.)
it's sort of like artistic sort of thing (.) it's like dancing it's just like
any normal dancing (.) but you (.) there's a pole involved. Its (.) it
takes a lot of skill and (.) confidence and um (.) not everyone can
do it.
One-occasion pole dancer
interview 2
So so leading on from that actually (.) what do you think (.) like what
would you say to someone who said to you that pole dancing (.)
not just professionally but learning it like this is degrading to
women?
No way.
No?
Nah (.) no way (.) not degrading at all (.) it's fun. It's something
different and it's a bit of fun and (.) there's nothing wrong with
having a bit of fun (h).
Yeah so (.) okay what about if they said it the other way? What if they
said that it's empowering?
A::h (.) yeah (h) (.) yeah it is (.) it's um (0.5) yeah it's sort of like (.)
it's sort of like artistic sort of thing (.) it's like dancing it's just like
any normal dancing (.) but you (.) there's a pole involved. Its (.) it
takes a lot of skill and (.) confidence and um (.) not everyone can
do it.
One-occasion pole dancer
interview 2
Sally:
Kally:
Sally:
Kally:
Angie:
Sally:
I think where you draw the line (.) there is probably where the money is (.)
like (.) if youre being paid to do it then its like (.) you have (.) youre (.)
like youre choice has been taken away and youre the one (.) you know (.
) thats working for it. But if (.) like these ladies ((refers to stimulus
material)) if youre paying for it (.) if youre paying to go there and [do it
]
[Yep]
[and] its like (.) for yourself and if you (.) like if (.) like for a hens night or
something like that where youre paying for it then its (.) the powers kind
of with you (.) its kind of who has the money is the one thats controlling
(.) the (1.0) intent
Yeah yeah [definitely]
[M:m]
[So I think] (.) if (.) if you go into to do it and youre paying money to do it
its like (.) I want this and its ok (.) but if youre getting paid to do it (.)
its kind of like (.) you know (.) thats when its a bit degrading.
Psychology Student Focus
Group 1
Kally:
Sally:
Kally:
Angie:
Sally:
I think where you draw the line (.) there is probably where the money is (.)
like (.) if youre being paid to do it then its like (.) you have (.) youre (.)
like youre choice has been taken away and youre the one (.) you know (.
) thats working for it. But if (.) like these ladies ((refers to stimulus
material)) if youre paying for it (.) if youre paying to go there and [do it
]
[Yep]
[and] its like (.) for yourself and if you (.) like if (.) like for a hens night or
something like that where youre paying for it then its (.) the powers kind
of with you (.) its kind of who has the money is the one thats controlling
(.) the (1.0) intent
Yeah yeah [definitely]
[M:m]
[So I think] (.) if (.) if you go into to do it and youre paying money to do it
its like (.) I want this and its ok (.) but if youre getting paid to do it (.)
its kind of like (.) you know (.) thats when its a bit degrading.
Psychology Student Focus
Group 1
Kally:
Sally:
Kally:
Angie:
Sally:
I think where you draw the line (.) there is probably where the money is (.)
like (.) if youre being paid to do it then its like (.) you have (.) youre (.)
like youre choice has been taken away and youre the one (.) you know (.
) thats working for it. But if (.) like these ladies ((refers to stimulus
material)) if youre paying for it (.) if youre paying to go there and [do it
]
[Yep]
[and] its like (.) for yourself and if you (.) like if (.) like for a hens night or
something like that where youre paying for it then its (.) the powers kind
of with you (.) its kind of who has the money is the one thats controlling
(.) the (1.0) intent
Yeah yeah [definitely]
[M:m]
[So I think] (.) if (.) if you go into to do it and youre paying money to do it
its like (.) I want this and its ok (.) but if youre getting paid to do it (.)
its kind of like (.) you know (.) thats when its a bit degrading.
Psychology Student Focus
Group 1
Kally:
Sally:
Kally:
Angie:
Sally:
I think where you draw the line (.) there is probably where the money is (.)
like (.) if youre being paid to do it then its like (.) you have (.) youre (.)
like youre choice has been taken away and youre the one (.) you know (.
) thats working for it. But if (.) like these ladies ((refers to stimulus
material)) if youre paying for it (.) if youre paying to go there and [do it
]
[Yep]
[and] its like (.) for yourself and if you (.) like if (.) like for a hens night or
something like that where youre paying for it then its (.) the powers kind
of with you (.) its kind of who has the money is the one thats controlling
(.) the (1.0) intent
Yeah yeah [definitely]
[M:m]
[So I think] (.) if (.) if you go into to do it and youre paying money to do it
its like (.) I want this and its ok (.) but if youre getting paid to do it (.)
its kind of like (.) you know (.) thats when its a bit degrading.
Psychology Student Focus
Group 1
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Vs.
Kally:
Rachael:
Sara:
Naomi:
Michelle:
Kally:
Michelle:
Sara:
Michelle:
Rachael:
Michelle:
Rachael:
Michelle:
Rachael:
Kally:
Sara:
Ok (.) cool (.) so do you (.) do you guys think that performing for a stranger would be
significantly different from performing for someone you love? Or care about?
[Yep]
[Yeah]
[Yeah]
[Yeah]
Yeah? So whys that?
Um (.) I dunno (.) I think theres [a certain]
[If its] with a stranger (.) you would (.) youd see it more as a joke
theres a disconnection there? (.) like (.) yeah when its with someone you love (.) you
know (.) youre kind of (.) doing it for them (.) kind of
Oh well its emotional
Yeah (.) theres an emotional connection [there]
[its more] than just a body? whereas if its a stranger (.) theyre in a position where (.
) they dont know [you?]
[Yeah]
they can easily objectify you and just go this is a body (.) this is (0.5) cool (.) tits in
my face whatever (.) whereas (.) when its someone you love (.) theyre gunna
see you as wow (.) she cares about me this much that shes willing to do this and
(.) oh my god (.) look at her confidence theyll see the other factors as well (?)
Yep (.) [so]
[Yeah they] know the person behind the [body]
Pole Dancing Pupils Focus
Group
Kally:
Rachael:
Sara:
Naomi:
Michelle:
Kally:
Michelle:
Sara:
Michelle:
Rachael:
Michelle:
Rachael:
Michelle:
Rachael:
Kally:
Sara:
Loving Gaze vs
Objectifying Gaze
Ok (.) cool (.) so do you (.) do you guys think that performing for a stranger would be
significantly different from performing for someone you love? Or care about?
[Yep]
[Yeah]
[Yeah]
[Yeah]
Yeah? So whys that?
Um (.) I dunno (.) I think theres [a certain]
[If its] with a stranger (.) you would (.) youd see it more as a joke
theres a disconnection there? (.) like (.) yeah when its with someone you love (.) you
know (.) youre kind of (.) doing it for them (.) kind of
Oh well its emotional
Yeah (.) theres an emotional connection [there]
[its more] than just a body? whereas if its a stranger (.) theyre in a position where (.
) they dont know [you?]
[Yeah]
they can easily objectify you and just go this is a body (.) this is (0.5) cool (.) tits in
my face whatever (.) whereas (.) when its someone you love (.) theyre gunna
see you as wow (.) she cares about me this much that shes willing to do this and
(.) oh my god (.) look at her confidence theyll see the other factors as well (?)
Yep (.) [so]
[Yeah they] know the person behind the [body]
Pole Dancing Pupils Focus
Kally:
Rachael:
Sara:
Naomi:
Michelle:
Kally:
Michelle:
Sara:
Michelle:
Rachael:
Michelle:
Rachael:
Michelle:
Rachael:
Kally:
Sara:
Loving Gaze vs
Objectifying Gaze
Ok (.) cool (.) so do you (.) do you guys think that performing for a stranger would be
significantly different from performing for someone you love? Or care about?
[Yep]
[Yeah]
[Yeah]
[Yeah]
Yeah? So whys that?
Um (.) I dunno (.) I think theres [a certain]
[If its] with a stranger (.) you would (.) youd see it more as a joke
theres a disconnection there? (.) like (.) yeah when its with someone you love (.) you
know (.) youre kind of (.) doing it for them (.) kind of
Oh well its emotional
Yeah (.) theres an emotional connection [there]
[its more] than just a body? whereas if its a stranger (.) theyre in a position where (.
) they dont know [you?]
[Yeah]
they can easily objectify you and just go this is a body (.) this is (0.5) cool (.) tits in
my face whatever (.) whereas (.) when its someone you love (.) theyre gunna
see you as wow (.) she cares about me this much that shes willing to do this and
(.) oh my god (.) look at her confidence theyll see the other factors as well (?)
Yep (.) [so]
[Yeah they] know the person behind the [body]
Pole Dancing Pupils Focus
The heterosexual
relationship as antidote
for objectification
Kally:
Rachael:
Sara:
Naomi:
Michelle:
Kally:
Michelle:
Sara:
Michelle:
Rachael:
Michelle:
Rachael:
Michelle:
Rachael:
Kally:
Sara:
Ok (.) cool (.) so do you (.) do you guys think that performing for a stranger would be
significantly different from performing for someone you love? Or care about?
[Yep]
[Yeah]
[Yeah]
[Yeah]
Yeah? So whys that?
Um (.) I dunno (.) I think theres [a certain]
[If its] with a stranger (.) you would (.) youd see it more as a joke
theres a disconnection there? (.) like (.) yeah when its with someone you love (.) you
know (.) youre kind of (.) doing it for them (.) kind of
Oh well its emotional
Yeah (.) theres an emotional connection [there]
[its more] than just a body? whereas if its a stranger (.) theyre in a position where (.
) they dont know [you?]
[Yeah]
they can easily objectify you and just go this is a body (.) this is (0.5) cool (.) tits in
my face whatever (.) whereas (.) when its someone you love (.) theyre gunna
see you as wow (.) she cares about me this much that shes willing to do this and
(.) oh my god (.) look at her confidence theyll see the other factors as well
Yep (.) [so]
[Yeah they] know the person behind the [body]
Pole Dancing Pupils Focus
Bree:
Kally:
Bree:
Um I just see it (.) just thought that it was kind of cool that you can
kind of use (.) um strength and your body to do something that
looks totally amazing (.) which guys think is totally hot so (.) as
opposed to (.) you know walking around in a pair (.) like (.) of
like you know sexy underwear (.) you can say hey check out
what I can do so its something you can (.) you've actually
worked hard at (.) its something that you've (.) you know put a
lot of time and effort into cos it wasnt easy (.) um to have a skill
that is kind of like yeah (.) look at (.) I'm fit (.) lost weight and I
can turn you on (h)
(laughter)
(h) so yeah (.) thats kinda why I think it was kinda liberating.
Kally:
Bree:
Um I just see it (.) just thought that it was kind of cool that you can
kind of use (.) um strength and your body to do something that
looks totally amazing (.) which guys think is totally hot so (.) as
opposed to (.) you know walking around in a pair (.) like (.) of
like you know sexy underwear (.) you can say hey check out
what I can do so its something you can (.) you've actually
worked hard at (.) its something that you've (.) you know put a
lot of time and effort into cos it wasnt easy (.) um to have a skill
that is kind of like yeah (.) look at (.) I'm fit (.) lost weight and I
can turn you on (h)
(laughter)
(h) so yeah (.) thats kinda why I think it was kinda liberating.
Kally:
Bree:
Um I just see it (.) just thought that it was kind of cool that you can
kind of use (.) um strength and your body to do something that
looks totally amazing (.) which guys think is totally hot so (.) as
opposed to (.) you know walking around in a pair (.) like (.) of
like you know sexy underwear (.) you can say hey check out
what I can do so its something you can (.) you've actually
worked hard at (.) its something that you've (.) you know put a
lot of time and effort into cos it wasnt easy (.) um to have a skill
that is kind of like yeah (.) look at (.) I'm fit (.) lost weight and I
can turn you on (h)
(laughter)
(h) so yeah (.) thats kinda why I think it was kinda liberating.
Kally:
Bree:
Um I just see it (.) just thought that it was kind of cool that you can
kind of use (.) um strength and your body to do something that
looks totally amazing (.) which guys think is totally hot so (.) as
opposed to (.) you know walking around in a pair (.) like (.) of
like you know sexy underwear (.) you can say hey check out
what I can do so its something you can (.) you've actually
worked hard at (.) its something that you've (.) you know put a
lot of time and effort into cos it wasnt easy (.) um to have a skill
that is kind of like yeah (.) look at (.) I'm fit (.) lost weight and I
can turn you on (h)
(laughter)
(h) so yeah (.) thats kinda why I think it was kinda liberating.
Kally:
Bree:
Um I just see it (.) just thought that it was kind of cool that you can
kind of use (.) um strength and your body to do something that
looks totally amazing (.) which guys think is totally hot so (.) as
opposed to (.) you know walking around in a pair (.) like (.) of
like you know sexy underwear (.) you can say hey check out
what I can do so its something you can (.) you've actually
worked hard at (.) its something that you've (.) you know put a
lot of time and effort into cos it wasnt easy (.) um to have a skill
that is kind of like yeah (.) look at (.) I'm fit (.) lost weight and I
can turn you on (h)
(laughter)
(h) so yeah (.) thats kinda why I think it was kinda liberating.
Conclusions: Constructions
of Female Agency
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Conclusions: Constructions
of Female Agency
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Conclusions: Constructions
of Female Agency
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Where to next?
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