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Cats exist by the life force principles just as humans do. Why in the world would we choose to believe
that the life force designed life where one animal would have to devour another animal? In the love of
it all, I do not see it as the plan of life for one to have to cause wrong to another in order to be alive.
Primarily, love is a foundation I choose to base my view and composure upon. I feel there is universal
right and universal wrong. This is where I am coming from in the first place. I would like for
everyone(including myself) to realize that no one has the right to wrongly take the life of another. (or
otherwise wrongly harm another)
Veganism is an understanding and it is different than the act alone of eating a plant based diet. I feel
all animals can come to survive and thrive on a plant based diet, including lions. I also feel lions can be
vegan. No one can force another to be vegan - only that creature as an individual can come to be aware
to be such. We can however, help the human grandfather or the lion at large become more aware. A
human being can feed the cat or grandfather who they may be taking care of, a healthy plant based diet
- which will lead everyone involved in a positive direction. To say only humans can be "vegan" is really
selling the other animals short and that would not be a very vegan thing to do, would it be? Cats can
gain a better sense of morality/ethics just as a human can.(most all I say here regarding cats also applies
to any animal in translation) As stated previously, veganism is an understanding really more than
anything else - realizing it is wrong to cause wrong to others. I feel the lions at large will come to realize
such, as will humans in the multitudes. The lions will not want to wrongly harm others, just as I as a
human do not want to wrongly harm another being as a result of what I understand. Some may suggest
that the human being is a less extreme example of an animal who has gone astray from the way we are
meant to live and a lion is perhaps that much more extreme of an example.
Generally speaking the word Carnivore is an observational word made up by people. The label of
carnivore which is placed on cats or other creatures is no different than the label of omnivore placed
on humans. Many humans changed from being an omnivore to being an herbivore. So, why then is it
hard for people to see that a so labeled carnivore could easily become an herbivore? A "carnivore diet
label" is not set in stone for any given creature type those creatures just happened to be doing that
behavior for an extended period of time in the timescale that the current man is using to base his
observation upon. If people feed Deer or Cows "chicken flesh" is that deer or cow a "carnivore"? What
is a mouse who eats cow cheese from the hand of man his entire life? If people at large did not eat
meat, do you think people would still murder animals so they can feed meat to other animals? I do not
feel the obligate carnivore designation is being looked at correctly. Who is to say that the "wild cats"
attacking and eating other animals are appropriate any more than man hunting and eating animals? I
do not at all feel it is natural for a cat to eat a "mouse". I feel science will one day show there are
negative health effects to cats when they eat any type of animal. Underneath it all -if one can not
survive ethically then one should lay down and die, and not try to keep oneself alive on the murder or
rapeful acts toward another.

Because one may observe something taking place in a setting, such does not mean that such is what was
intended to be taking place. Before the black man was free from slave chains - many people thought
"that is just the way it is". Today most people see differently. Sometimes it takes "seeing to believe it".
Many humans today feel that people eating meat milk and eggs is the way to go, they feel that is the
way things are meant to be. If there are humans who get sick without eating meat, do they have the
right to murder for flesh? (answer - no more than a cat does) If some are "so far gone" to that degree
where they need something in that meat - then they may need to live out their lives on synthetics. I
really think the answer is more simple than that for most in that a healthy well rounded plant based diet
would suffice, however I reference such for extreme cases. I think that on levels what we are dealing
with here is just so many years and years of "bad direction" piled upon ourselves. Some humans I know
claim to get sick if they do not eat meat, similar to how some people make that claim for cats. Does that
mean they can not survive on a plant based diet? It could indicate that those individuals are genetically
"off set" to some degree where perhaps they need synthetics or something as to correct a genetic
"defect" or body adaptation which shifted over time as to make their bodies require the meat - is it
possible that MEAT EATING over many years could cause genetic issues with cats and or humans? Some
humans reportedly need a drug called insulin - insulin that they use to source from animals, now they
have it synthetic. Did man ever need to or more over have the right to wrongly take the insulin from
other animals? No, he did not. So in perspective - 40 years ago science was telling us that people who
need insulin can not be vegan since they source their insulin injections from animals - where as today
there are synthetic options so that person can be vegan if they choose to take insulin. Bodies change
over time based on what one consumes. One would most likely notice bodily differences in populations
of humans or cats who ate plants their whole life compared to those who ate animals. The structures
and function of the body would change.
The relationship of "predator- prey" is not the way things are meant to be I know this because I sense
it deep within me, and I believe science will one day come to prove this. The Charles Darwin finch beak
studies may relate to this - where one population of finch was isolated on an island and the beak
developed differently as a result of the food they were eating. Some claim they need things not found
in plants, B -12 or taurine, etc. In general I feel those two elements are controversial and need more
accurate attention and study such requirements, if they do exist may be related to the bodys needs
changing over time as a result of their exposures. Perhaps there was a body part or function which
produced B-12/taurine, however maybe it shut down because the body was taking in large doses of
such. If you heavily "dose yourself" with something your body may become dependent upon such. If
there are a group of people who become dependent on something that involves murdering others, is it
acceptable for them to do that just so they can get that substance?(should those types of humans be
exempt from murdering?)
I would suggest that the humans who claim that the digestive system is made for meat are mis-analyzing
such. In general different plants digest differently - I think there are plants that a lion would eat that a
deer would not necessarily eat. Also it is possible that some animals were meant to eat different meal
time and quantity regimens than other animals. And or as I referenced previously the Darwin finch beak
study example of how the body changes over time based on exposures. The main thing I am saying

about intestines is that such is misanalysed. Either man does not recognize that different plants are
processed differently by different animals and or it is a change in a given body that happened over time.
And I am not suggesting a body can evolve or devolve over night to the degree I am suggesting - those
Finches in the Darwin finch study took generations to evolve(the beaks changed based on what they
were eating - just as the intestine could potentially change) I feel that in time we will come to find that
all the nutritional needs for animals can be found in plants. If someone is defective in some way - they
do not have the right to murder another to take something they claim that they need.(luckily we do
have synthetics today to help some individuals who are in need)
Teeth and claws are more likely intended to be used to cut tough plants - is a knife used to stab animals
or cut vegetables? If humans had been eating raw flesh for generations their bodies would be able to
most likely handle such in the way some claim the lions body does.(although not all humans may make
it that far due to karmic and other disease/biological principles) My waste stream definitely changed
when I went vegan it became less solid and this is for the past decade... I am not going to eat meat
because I feel my waste stream should be more solid.(and I would not feed a cat meat for that or any
other reason)
Some speak of bladder or urinary infections - I am told there are synthetic drugs or herbs that can help
a bladder infection in humans or cats. It is misunderstood science and poor medicinal practice which
indicates that cats need meat to prevent this infection. From reading what I have on cats and this
urinary infection issue - it appears there are tons of cats who experience such - way more who are on
NON-VEGAN diets than on healthy vegan diets. And that said - I looked at some of the "causes" that
they have on the list and the causes seem to indicate to me that the historical eating of meat may
actually be the culprit for this problem.(similar to in humans how more and more diseases and bodily
issues are beginning to be proven to be connected with animal product consumption) I read literature
that also pointed to and or questioned cats who are "neutered" and the notion that they may be more
susceptible to urinary tract infections.(Neutering is a practice I am against for numerous reasons, I feel it
is cruel and unethical.) Where is the research coming from that the urine PH is off and crystal formation
is at play when consuming a vegan diet? Arent there a lot of cats on a meat diet who have this issue?
Who is to say it is a result of a plant based diet? Wouldn't that be plant specific? (depend on what
plants you are feeding them, ph of plants etc)
I would personally rather help save a chicken or pig before murdering them in order to feed their flesh
to a cat. Would you murder a piglet, a fish, or a chicken - to feed to a cat? In the grand scheme of things
- If some cats die off, then they might. Just like some human rapists or murderers may die off. (I do not
think it has to come to that - just using that for extreme examples) I feel we can save the multitudes
through the science and knowledge we have available today. I would say that if you kill an animal to
feed to another, you are just as guilty as killing to feed that animal to yourself. We will never end animal
exploitation with the stance that it is ok for cats and dogs to eat meat derived from murder. If people
advocate one animal having the right to murder other animals, it completely undermines the stance of
saying that humans should not be murdering others.

We need delicious and nutritious (preferably affordable) plant based food for those who we are
attempting to help. The feeder is the one responsible for, by in part, misguiding the function of who is
fed if the feeder is feeding another upon the spinning wheels of exploitation. On some levels the burden
and weight, and bad karma connected with the exploitation, is more at large placed upon the feeder.
The feeders hand fills the bowl of the ones who may not know any better because they did not have
the nurturing or guidance of perspective. You can feed a human a "non-qualified vegan diet" and they
can become sick as well. To say cats need meat is the logic and thought that is stemming from the
same general direction as those who claim, "human babies need milk from animals" - "Oh if you try to
feed a human child a vegan diet, you will harm the human baby!" Of course if I as a human only ate
potatoes, rice milk and pasta - I would probably get sick or not be of optimal health. I think that it is
important to have a well rounded plant based diet.
Picture zoos for the reason to help individuals, a place for those who need guidance to learn not to
murder others. For example, picture a place like a zoo of the day however more open to allow for
more freedoms, maybe in areas where there is more land space away from mans population, due to the
nature of what the new direction will be. The new direction being in the way of
reforming/teaching/guiding/nurturing creatures who are attacking others for flesh or other
inappropriate reasons. In general I picture sanctuaries - large areas where animals who get along with
each other can live in peace - hopefully one day the lion and the deer will live in peace. However some
lions need help/guidance to realize not to murder, so part of the plan would be to help them
isolate them and educate them, feed them delicious plant based meals(which all the nutrients needed
for animal life can be found in plants If we have to feed lions the consistency of veggie grill burgers for
a while then so be it) - and eventually integrate and teach generations of lions to eat plants that are
grown and growing in the wild or created habitats that become wild so to speak over time. Some
people may say not to interfere with the way of life of the lion, and well, that would be the same as
saying do not interfere with the human deer hunter or whale hunters way of life some things are
perhaps meant to be interfered with, changed, and made better/correct.
At the end of the day I feel karmic principles will come into play and that is what any given individual will
have on their side as to defend themselves - be that individual a human or a zebra. If the lions or housecats suffer as a result of man pushing, condoning and promoting meat consumption - well I feel that will
backlash onto man in some extent. (it is only a matter of time in this lifetime or the next) There is also
the hope that other animals will build defenses(genetically/chemically) in order to defend themselves whether that person be a human, a mouse, or any animal. It is science. It is what we do today which
will dictate our levels of future defense. I feel that if I would murder chickens to feed to cats that would
be the same as me murdering chickens to feed to myself and that is going to be bad karma any way you
slice it. We can talk about intestines and pH scales and teeth shapes all day long ... however I strongly
feel karmic principles will one day come into play and shine to the degree to protect the innocent. If
that means the lions die off because man does not want to help them evolve back to a plant based diet,
then that would be sad. (back to a plant based diet I would say - as I feel that is how they were "before
all of this") I guess the notion of right and wrong and cause and effect(karma) is what I base most all of
my starting points on. It is no way acceptable for anyone to murder and that is where I stand. If you

start making exceptions for lions there then is going to be exceptions for humans and so on... that is not
the type of universe I want to live in.
I realize we are in a world where people are told from babies on up that they as humans need: Meat,
Milk, and Eggs in order to survive - so it will be even that much harder for a lot people at this time to
jump levels to see what I am talking about and or coming from regarding cats. NO animal was intended
and no animal certainly has a right to devour/attack another wrongfully. There are a lot of people who
are mad at me and or are at odds for me for what I claim - sort of like how they would be mad at me if I
told them back in 1842 that black men are NOT meant to be slaves. I think what I have to say here in this
note "shatters some people's worlds" of what they were under the impression of their whole lives and
thus it is hard for them to take in. This is a frustrating situation, however I have to keep telling myself
"it" will all come around when it does.
I think that if people would come to think and feel about it from a deeper life perspective things would
really change - "Do you really feel life intended one animal to murder another animal?" What does your
universe look like? Hope in Brighter Days.

--We are just beginning to learn, through science, about all of the bad health effects of animal product
consumption associated with the human body, why would you think it would be any less different for
other animal bodies?