impedance
is
acceptable
among
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13.Many times tank body is found hot particularly top plate during operation, what
could be cause & care to be taken in design?
14.What is the most ideal location for locating the fiber optic sensors?
15.Why do you need to know the solubility of water in electrical insulating liquids?
Manufacturing and Quality:
1. How to ensure that transformer after manufacturing has good IR value and
minimum moisture?
2. How to ascertain that core material used is genuine?
3. Should there be one-to-one match between material used in type tested job
and later supplied during manufacturing?
4. What is the typical manufacturing through put time for different voltage classes
of transformers?
5. Can we use the transformer unit, which has undergone short circuit test?
6. How to ascertain that transformer offered by supplier is similar to what is type
tested?
Erection, Commissioning and Service issues:
1. What is the thumb rule for IR value in power transformer above 66 KV Class?
2. What to do if IR value is low after filtration at site in new units and how to
improve it?
3. Should the oil in transformer below drain valve be accepted? Up to what level,
oil should be filled in conservator?
4. What is polarization index & the significance of polarization index?
5. Is there any rule or practice for first charging with respect to HV side or LV side?
6. What are the key points for internal inspection of unit at site before oil filling &
bushing erection?
7. What are the ideal Alarm and Trip values for OTI and WTI?
8. Should we connect transformer neutral earthing to main earth mat of
switchyard?
9. How to make scrap or repair decision for transformers?
10.How to find out the weight of core, steel and copper in old Transformers?
11.How to avoid bushing porcelain flash over in highly contaminated locations, like
dusty as in a cement plant, misty as near to a cooling tower, foggy or saline as
near to sea?
12.How to decide on mixing of oil of two different makes?
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2.
3.
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of tank shields and yoke shunts which control stray losses in structural parts to
a great extent.
Any possible local overheating in structural parts in a transformer shall get
detected by comparing oil DGA test results before and after temperature rise
test. Advanced tools like thermo-vision camera do helps mapping thermal
image of external structural parts of transformer during temperature rise test.
It is not a practice to limit maximum stray losses in terms of % of total load loss
as this may lead to excessive shielding in the medium and lower ratings of
transformers which are commercially not viable and this unnecessarily
complicates the transformer design.
Stray loss limit are to be reviewed in design review keeping loss capitalization
issue and temperature rise in to consideration.
4.
5.
Some bushings are provided with spark gap with arcing horns, what
gap should be maintained?
Arcing horns used to be provided on bushings during the days when surge
arresters were made of silicon carbide blocks with air gaps. These surge
arresters were not giving precise cut off with surges of different wave fronts. To
take care of these uncertainties and to avoid a flash over to earth across the
porcelain surface (which may damage the porcelain glaze or even porcelain) an
arcing horn was provided across the porcelain with flash over voltage well
below the withstand value of bushing (transformer). These arcing horns were
not effective against steep fronted surges as the flashover values were quite
high for such surges. Another disadvantage with arcing horns is the interruption
of power supply with arcing horn flashover followed by power frequency current
flow. With the advent of metal oxide surge arresters with consistent voltage cut
off
characteristics, arcing horns became redundant and no longer used in
transformers.
Today arcing horns are provided only on distribution transformer bushings.
6.
What is the significance of over fluxing factor and its ideal duration?
IEC 60076-1 and ANSI/IEEE C57.12.00, Transformer specifications, require 110
% V/f (Voltage /Frequency is called over fluxing factor) continuous at no-load
reducing to 105 % at full load (only ANSI specifies power factor). IEC also
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requires 140 % over fluxing for 5 seconds for GSU transformers. Customers
often have their own specific requirements based on operating practice.
Over fluxing phenomena in transformers became a concern when some large
Generator Transformers failed in USA during the first energisation during
1960's. It was the time when large generators of above 200 MW were first
introduced. After site failure, during factory inspection, the classic over fluxing
failure mode - burning of inner side of LV winding and blistering of outside tank
painting- was noticed in these units. The reason for failures was increased V/F
seen by transformers due to some mistakes in generator excitation protocol.
This led to the development and use of over fluxing (V/F) relay in GTs.
The phenomena was first studied in depth by GE, Pittsfield engineers and first
over fluxing design philosophy and withstand graph were published by them
(IEEE PAS Vol. 85 No. 8 Aug 1966, Design and operating practices of generator
step up Transformers - G W Alexander & WJ Mac Nutt Pages 901-909). Later
CIGRE published this graph along with graph from German Standard VDE 0532 /
8.64 in Electra No 31 1973 December -Transformer Over fluxing protection
Pages 65. Later CIGRE revised this vide Electra No. 82 May, 1982 Page 42 Permissible
over
excitation
of
Power
Transformers.
Anyway, these graphs are all theoretical as no one has tested transformers for
these over fluxing levels. The saturation level of CRGO is almost same
irrespective of grades. Dr Girgis of ABB in 2003 IEEE seminar reported 1.92 1.95 for standard grades & 1.95 - 1.98 T for Hi-B and higher grades. Harold
Moore (ex Westinghouse) suggested 1.9 T for standard mitred core & 1.93 T for
step-lap core construction. On safer level, utilities generally specify 1.72 T as
max operating flux density with 1.9 T at max continuous operating voltage of
110 %, with over fluxing capability of 125 % over fluxing for 1 minute and 140
% for 5 seconds. When over fluxing level at site is more than these, the working
flux density will be reduced proportionately. That is why CEGB UK used to
specify working flux density of 1.7 T for GTs, 1.6 T for interconnecting
transformers and 1.55 T for sub transmission transformers. The low B value for
sub-transmission transformers is required as the operator will be lowering the
HV taps with constant input voltage, when the secondary voltage dips due to
transformer voltage regulation, causing continuous over fluxing in transformers.
When over fluxing occurs i.e. when B exceeds 1.9 T, the flux can no longer hold
inside the core and it overflows hitting the flitch (tie) plate, inner winding, tank
etc., causing them to overheat exponentially. Engineers take countermeasures
such as non- magnetic tie plates with slits etc. But the fundamental change will
be reduced working flux density. Earlier days, before the oil shock, in Europe,
US and Japan even 1.8 T working flux density at rated voltage was common for
GTs. But today due to higher and higher efficiency demands and the
environmental concerns of transformer noise, B of 1.45 T is not uncommon,
thereby building up extra over fluxing capacity automatically.
7.
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8.
9.
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10.
What is the best core material, one should use to achieve minimum
losses.
Decision of selecting core material is purely a transformer designers choice.
Designer based on the capitalization value of no load losses / fixed no load
losses selects the grade of core material to get the most optimum design,
based on his technology and experience of core configuration etc.
It is not essentially required to use HiB /domain refined grades of core material
always and it is possible to achieve same value of losses without using HiB
material (say, by using lower operating flux density, better core construction).
Such decisions should be left to designer.
Saturation flux density of all grades of CRGO is same. It is the specific watt
loss / kg that define the grade of steel.
12.
13.
Many times tank body is found hot particularly top plate during
operation, what could be cause & care to be taken in design?
Stagnant oil with reduced flow is generally the reason for higher top plate
temperature. Such phenomenon is sometimes noticed in externally mounted /
tank mounted radiator banks of large rating transformer tanks which are dome
shaped at top to facilitate transport profile. As shown in the figure below, the
differences in top most plate and the oil entry point sometimes may be
substantial to lead to reduced oil flow currents and higher temperatures. To
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overcome this situation, a connecting pipe from top most point to oil inlet pipe
of header may help reduce the stagnant oil temperature.
Recommended connecting
pipe
14.
What is the most ideal location for locating the fiber optic sensors?
Fiber optic sensors are embedded in the transformer windings to directly read
the winding hot spot temperatures where it is placed. Location of fiber optic
temperature is judiciously decided
by transformer designer based on the
hot spot temperature distribution of transformer winding. Generally top zone of
the transformer winding is surrounding the hot oil; this zone also carries higher
value of winding eddy current losses in view of radial flux at this location.
Generally fiber optic sensors are placed in the second or third disc from top of
the winding which are generally the hottest.
15.
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3.
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Following typical period from the day of order to delivery (Ex-work) can be
considered:
Power Transformer up to 132 kV class :
Power Transformer up to 400 kV class :
Power Transformers up to 765 kV class :
5.
4 6 months
6 8 months
9 12 months
Can we use the transformer unit, which has undergone short circuit
test?
Yes. We can use a short circuit tested transformer in regular service .It is
expected to give the same service life as any other unit in that manufacturing
lot.
6.
2.
What to do if IR value is low after filtration at site in new units and how
to improve it?
In case the IR value is substantially lower than the factory value, then the
reason for the same shall be investigated. Some of the reasons for low
insulation resistance values can be defective bushings, low IR value for tap
changer insulation, misplaced lead layout, water entry in to oil etc.
The best method to improve the IR values is by vacuum treatment:
The degree of vacuum shall be of the order of 2 Torr for 132 kV and 1 Torr
for >132 kV with following vacuum and dry air filling cycle:
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66 kV
132 kV/220 kV
220 kV/400 kV
At the end of vacuum hold period, hot oil shall be filled to raise the
temperature of winding insulation to expedite moisture removal. External
heating and hot oil circulation may be repeated 2~3 times as required.
3.
4.
ii)
iii)
The leakage current varies with the test voltage. It may also have a component
due to the surface leakage that is due especially to surface contamination.
Since leakage current increases at a faster rate with moisture present than does
absorption current, the Mega Ohm readings do not increase with time as fast
with insulation in poor condition as with insulation in good condition. This
results in a lower polarization index.
An advantage of the index ratio is that all of the variables that can affect a
single Mega Ohm reading, such as temperature and humidity, are essentially
the same for both the 1 Min. and 10 Min. readings.
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Is there any rule or practice for first charging with respect to HV side
or LV side?
There is no specific rule or practice regarding the first charging of transformers
except in case of step up transformers and interconnecting auto-transformers
wherein initial charging is always done from HV side as otherwise the inrush
current will overload the LV side system transformers which will be of lower
rating than HV side system transformers. Another advantage of charging from
HV side is the lower inrush current (as times of full load current) as normally HV
winding is the outer most winding. But when high ratio transformers like step
up transformers are energized from HV side, LV side shall be protected from
transferred surges by connecting lightning arresters or surge absorbers to LV
side.
6.
What are the key points for internal inspection of unit at site before oil
filling & bushing erection?
Necessity of internal inspection generally arises out of any abnormal shocks
recorded by Impact recorder or discrepancy in magnetic circuit isolation (2 kV
Test).
However, large transformers above 100 MVA may be inspected internally at site
before bushing erection, as a good practice.
During inspection dry air should be continuously injected to avoid any moisture
ingress.
Following points are generally checked during internal inspection
at site.
1. Any movements of windings or looseness of OLTC connection leads /
supports (Supports are tightened in case found loose. Connections on
OLTC are also tightened.)
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What are the ideal Alarm and Trip values for OTI and WTI?
Considering allowed temperatures of oil and winding and avoid unnecessary
tripping, following are the recommended values of the OTI / WTI alarm / trip
settings.
OTI 85 C (Alarm) / 95 C (Trip)
WTI 100 C (Alarm) / 110 C (Trip)
8.
9.
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If the repair cost is more than 60-65% of cost of new transformer, it may be
worth considering scrap of the transformer.
If the age is more than 20 years and repair cost is substantial, one may
consider scrap. However, in such a case, change of windings and uprating with
enhanced cooling may be a good proposition.
With advancement of technology, losses of the transformers have come down.
While considering repair of an old transformer, the possibility of a more energy
efficient transformer in lieu of huge repair cost may also be explored.
10.
How to find out the weight of core, steel and copper in old
Transformers?
Approximate weight of copper and core steel can be found out from the active
part weight as shown in the rating plate of transformer.
From the active part weight, find out the weight of net (copper + CRGO Steel)
by dividing factor. This factor will vary depending on the period when the
transformer was made. In early days (1965 - 75) this factor was on the higher
side. In later years, it came down due to improvements in design.
Factor
Two
1965- 197519957
9
2
5
5
0
0
5
winding
Transformer
Auto-Transformer
1.20
1.15
1.10
1.25
1.20
1.13
Difference between active part (Copper + Core) can be taken as the weight of
mild steel fabricated item plus oil impregnated insulation materials (paper,
pressboard, wood) in the ratio of 50:50. Weight of tap -changer can be
neglected. But it will have copper contacts as part which has good scrap value.
From the total weight of (copper + Core) individual weight of core laminations
and copper conductor can be estimated by guessing the core / copper ratio.
This ratio of core to copper weight (vary 1 ~ 4) depending on
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11.
12.
13.
What are the standard torque values for bolts and studs ?
The Classification of bolts is as show below.
GROUP-A:
Bolts marked 4.8 on the head
GROUP-B:
Bolts marked 8.8 or higher on the head or of Stainless Steel
The maximum recommended torque values, based on material properties, for
both
groups are as given below:
GROUP-A: Maximum recommended Torque
Torque
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Bolt
Size
M10
M12
M16
M20
M24
M30
M36
Unplated
Torque N-m
20
36
90
175
300
600
1050
Zn Plated
Galvanized
Torque N-m
25
40
110
210
360
720
1260
Bolt
Size
M10
M12
M16
M20
M24
M30
M36
Unplated
Torque Nm
35
60
145
280
490
970
1700
Zn Plated
Galvanized
Torque N-m
40
70
170
340
590
1160
2040
Gasketed Joints:
Recommended torques for bolts/studs only for gasketed joints. Based on maxium
pitch generally used for that class of bolt.
Bolt
Size
M10
M12
M16
M20
M24
Unplated
Torque N-m
20
30
50
70
100
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