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So youre 55 years old and youve met a beautiful, 22 year old woman. You want to develop an exciting, passionate, vibrant sexual relationship with her. A predictable element of this story will be that at some point she
will raise the issue of age, as in I dont date old men, and youll have to deal with it. Or, get to deal with it.
Follow my guidance and your advanced age becomes a great advantage.
Not sure that you, as a man over 50, should even consider dating younger women? Is it a matter of ethics,
culture, or one of possibilities open to you? While the short answer is, an intelligent 60 year old who makes
a point of picking up basic gaming skills can easily date [meaning, enjoy mutual, enthusiastic sex with] women age 20-25, I expand on this unfamiliar notion for those in doubt in an appendix to this memo.
If you already believe that you are entitled to date any woman you want, even those so young or beautiful as
to be seen as out of your league by misinformed neighbors, then you can probably use some guidance on
how to get past objections to your age.
I have experimented with methods to make age a non-issue in pickup interactions and offer my experiences.
Ill assume that you have some minimal Game; that is, you understand basic seduction theory as espoused
on Fastseduction.com or by David DeAngelo, Mystery, Style and similar teachers. If, on the other hand, you
have no idea what Game is and this requirement is a mystery to you, then this memo will be premature. Get
game firstlearn the Science of Pickupand this memo will round out your education.
Getting Started
First steps remain unchanged. Ill assume you found, met, opened, transitioned, and have worked your attraction game to the point where the target (the pretty thing that just happens to be much younger than you) is
now interested in youbut she has begun to shit-test you on your age and you note this is where things are
likely to start coming apart. E.g., Ew. Old men are icky! may be right around the corner.
So. What do you do next?
Statistical Norms
I acknowledge that not all girls in their twenties will respond to a man nearly 60 years old, but enough will
that it makes virtually no difference to my perceived outcome. If a third will never consider dating a
man my age, then a third will after a period of babysitting adjustment as they grow into the thought, and a
third will ignore the age thing altogether and go for it if their emotions tell them to. If youre a 60 year old man
(or even much older) and you have some adequate gaming skills, you will never have to sleep alone, or in the
alternative, never be without one or multiple girlfriends.
Attraction is a subject which could easily divert this memo by several hundred pages as it is a major topic worthy of majorbut separatestudy. How do you act, what do you say to get and keep her into you, after you have found her? If you already have Attraction
Theory down cold, congratulations; if not, and if this subject is a mystery to you, youll have to dedicate major study to learning it before
you continue. This memo, then, is not about how you gain attraction but a series of assurances that if your previouslky acquired skill at
gaining attraction is otherwise good, youll be able to pull it off quite easily with women much younger than you.
The fact is that if a woman is in a headspace where she cant picture you as her lover, possibly because of
age, then that is her issue and not yours. She loses out on me, the best lover she ever might have had if
only she hadnt been so narrow, stupid, and unlucky. As an operational matter, I will open many but end
up prosecuting only those that turn into me and engage. Thus my approach and technique is entirely selfcorrecting.
The best I can do is preserve my status with the younger, stupid ones by leaving them with something like,
Pleasure for you to meet me and politely disengaging. With luck they will either see me later as pre-selected
by other women, often physically hotter than they were, and they may later change their minds and re-open
me. This business of keeping options open must be automatic, bearing in mind that it may pay off months
or years later. Some women just need some time to think about it. Im 55. Im patient. I have the time.
Prior Method of Dealing with the Age Issue: Methods I Dont Like
David DeAngelo, from his lofty perch of 33 years of age (!), suggested that when the girl asks for your age
your options are limited. He said this is how he handles it.
First, it is a shit test and one way of handling it is to ignore it or pretend you didnt hear the question. Shit
tests truly do not require that you pay attention to them. I dont like this approach because while this
technique works with neutral subject shit tests (on subjects other than age), not answering the age question
makes you look as though youre ashamed of being older. You lose.
Second, when she demands, How old are you anyway? you can fire back a dominant (and as they say, not
domineering) counter-question, How much do you weigh? While this is funny it tends to kill the good vibe
you were working on, plus it also sounds like youre hiding something. Worse, if she answers, 126 lbs! then
you
have to be ready to fire back your actual age, 64 years old! with equal or greater enthusiasm. Risky, and
in the best of circumstances a little too harsh. It does offer the advantage of making her jump through your
hoop before you jump through hers.
Third, others have suggested that if you look good you can lie, where the most common lied about age is
39. Yeah, right. As if shed believe that. Plus that would make me seem as though I had something to hide,
and that I am ashamed of my age as being somehow disqualifying. So while I have lied about my age on the
older side I have never lied on the young side, and never will. Weak.
Fourth, DeAngelo says he will look the girl straight in the eye and calmly answer, Old enough to know
not to answer THAT kind of question! Of course, in this delivery your vocal tonality is key. If the girl restates the question you have set up an argument which can do nothing but kill the vibe and make you look
weak. This has all the weaknesses of the other answers above, which means it is not an effective answer for
managing your game.
Fifth, it is always good policy before you answer any of her questions to consider whether she is shit testing
you with interview-type questions, or what Mystery called, Questions o Death. If these questions come
fairly early in your interaction, before she has started what feels like the melting into me phase of comfort
building (or into rapport, where the real game takes place), then the questions are certainly of the qualifying
frame type which you cannot allow to get started. So to prevent the feeling from taking root that she is
the interviewer and you are the interviewee, nip it in the bud by making her jump through one of your hoops
before you jump through hers.
Her: How old are you, anyway?
Me: Guess. If youre close, maybe Ill tell you.
Her : 37 [obviously guessing low]
Me: Wow! Thats SO amazing! NO. [humor]
With this routine, you can either game off the answer or tell her your age, your choice. But even this was
suboptimal as it did not deal with the shit test side of it, to demonstrate a natural alpha dominance
over the person who puts that shit test to you. Of all the conventional methods of dealing with the shit tested
age issue, this started out as the best.
Sixth is the direct approach my buddy suggests, which is to announce, Im FIFTY- SIX. Yeah, yeah, I know I
look younger than that and I LOVE THAT ABOUT MYSELF. The key is to be over-the-top self-confident, and
he says it reduces the shit-test to a footnote.
Pace of Rapport
The game is played in rapport. If you are an older guy you should plan on hovering longer in rapport. There
is a tricky balance to explain because on the one hand you dont want too move too quickly that a possible
gets scared away (and reports to her friends that that older guy tried something creepy on me), but you
need to keep the sense of escalation going so that she doesnt get bored or lose interest in you. Some
women are easy this way; others, their comfort and too fast curves never cross and there is no solution
set possible, in which case you politely excuse yourself to prosecute other contacts, use her as a pawn, or
LJBF her to gain access to her friends, or for future use as pivot.
I discovered that in successful game I was occasionally noting that rapport was going flat, and so would go
back into Mysterys A2 and DHV a little more. This is a consequence of women being generally attracted but
occasionally taking notice of age, and then compensating for that.
(If anyone sorts this out theoretically, or can offer some practical experience in this rapport
building phase, please let know so I can add it to this memo.)
to focus on one, and get her to self-extract with you, so it is time to let this 2-set know or figure out who
the winner is and who the loser is. This is a tough time, and uncomfortable for all concerned, because the
girl who loses is not only losing you, the cool guy, but she is losing her girl friend and the cool vibe they had
going. The loser girl knows she will have to walk home alone, and will experience a humiliating deep funk.
While there are exceptions to this rule, most obstacle-loser girls do not like to be the loser.
I know that shortly after focusing on one girl, the targetwhich I try to do very subtly, but there is no subtlety
in lovethe obstacle is going to try to break us up by shit testing me, so that I will go away and she can
resume her vibe with the target girl. The best way to attack me without being obvious is to ask me my age. I
know this, and she knows this, so the only question is, Who gets to trigger the question?
Since I like to be in control of the interaction (and at this juncture I start thinking of it as being in control of the
combat), I want to be the one that controls exactly when she pops the age issue shit test. Properly done, she
will know, falsely but with very high confidence, that she thought of the shit test all by herself, with no input
from me at all,
and that it is all 100% her idea. All by herself she thinks up and executes this oh-so- clever attack. In reality, I
am pulling the trigger.2
To pull the trigger and get the obstacle to act, two things must occur. First, you must have switched your
focus to the target so that the target knows you find her sexy and that you see her as a potential sex partner.
Specifically, I have made my Juggler SOI [Statement of Intent] to the target. (I am also thinking at this point,
as part of my mind-set, so long as you play your cards right.) This requires the obstacle to note that she
is not the target or potential sex partner, and thus to feel a range of emotions centered first on alarm, then
disappointment, then anger, and then the worry of an impending humiliation and isolation that she desperately
wants to avoid.
Good. It was inevitable. And since it was inevitable we must accept this fact and deal with it, since we now
have locked in the coming age shit test. At this point we dont know exactly when, and the obstacle may not
have even thought of the disruptive shit test she will use, so we must seize control and make the age shit test
happen. In this way we deal with the obstacles shit test and the age issue in one fell swoop.
We trigger the age issue shit test by clearly mentioning something that is so outrageously historical, old, and
before their respective births that neither can ignore the fact you said it. It can be true or made up; it can be
reasonable or ridiculously long ago. So long as it was before their births they will not listen to the actual fact
but be occupiedeven overwhelmedwith the idea of you being older than their grandfathers!
If this principle of I pull the trigger on her assault sounds like martial arts, it is. In the successful stand-up fight, your adversary
should feel as though he has decided what technique to throw when in fact I have manipulated his weight, foot position, and the
apparent targets available on me so that that thought is the only one that can occur to him. As in the seduction or social arts, this
further ensures that that technique he then throws, but which I have designed for him, will completely fail him. And the fact it feels
as though I have been pulling his strings during a dangerous and stressful event (for him, anyway) gives me a certain intellectual
satisfaction that is hard to describe.
Examples:
But you see that was when I was a child, before electricity was invented.
That reminds me of when I served with General Washington during the American Revolutionary
War a cold and difficult time.
You have it easy! When I went to college there were no cars. There were trains, sure, but they
were big smoky, cumbersome affairs. So I much prefer the silent gliding along in traffic of the
Mercedes Benz to that rude clattering from my youth.
Thats not true: I remember exactly where I was, how I felt, when I heard that President Kennedy
[or Garfield, or even Lincoln] had been shot!
All of these remarks are clearly gross exaggerations! I was born in 1950 and the world already had
computers, atomic bombs, jet aircraft, color movies, telephones, and sex toys. In retrospect you can bust on
them for their gullibility, but for now have faith that if you set up the obstacle correctly, your age issue shit test
is only milliseconds away:
Her : [Blurting out] How old are you, anyway?
But now you are ready for her!
You must respond without delay, but in a voice that is at least 20% slower than the girls voices, and with
great pride and volume in your voice. You must swell up your chest in an exaggerated power posture and
proudly announce:
You : Im SIXTY SEVEN years old!
This is not true, of course. You are much younger than this. At the time I came up with this idea I was 52
years old, decided on its possible efficacy only by eliminating everything else that was known not to work,
and ended up with this. To my real age I added the impossible figure of 15 years to make it 67.
In what type of voice do you announce this? Think of a 4 year old boy who has just learned to hold up 4
fingers when asked his age, and hear his response: I am FOUR years old! Use that attitude, tone, and
voice.
Why do they believe you? Lots of old lamers have lied about their age by saying they were younger than they
were and in so doing condemning themselves to losing. But no one has ever said something as improbable
as Im 67! and so they can accept it at face value. But what you are really saying by the tone of your voice
is, I am high value, and this is the highest value age any human could be!
This gambit is an exercise in frame control. If you are okay with something then the girl is going to be okay
with it, no matter how freaky or counter-intuitive the issue. Women are wired this way.3 Say it proudly and
you establish the frame that being 67 is something to be massively proud of, and she cannot object without
Frame control, where your comfort discussing something becomes her comfort, just as your discomfort signals her discomfort, too,
logic aside, is useful when later discussing sexual practices with which she might not yet be familiar, like anal sex. Remember: if youre
cool and comfortable and not freaked out by a subject, then she will also be cool and comfortable about that subject. But if you get all
freaky about something truly benign, like holding her hand, she will get freaky and reject your move.
On the other hand if the obstacle is not cowed and just continues an unrelenting barrage of snotty shit tests, you may have entered into
a Banter Battle during which you can still achieve ascendancy over her by being better at the battle than she is, and therefore a cooler
person than she is. This gives you a solid second chance at recovery and carrying the day with the target. See the appendix on Generic
Shit Test Methodology for guidance.
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This suggests a natural, physical superiority on your part which is not a bad thing to add in itself. Plus you
are letting her off the hook by saying it in an upbeat manner. Both girls will nod as though approving of your
explanation, but in reality you have just initiated a shift into sex talk because of the way girls think.
Yes, I know that you know everything there is to know about DNA. Deoxy- ribonucleic acid. Watson-Crick
complementary pairs. The Double Helix. Adenine, guanine, cytosine, thymine. But she knows none of this,
because when it was taught in high school she wasnt really listening but doing her nails. So she can only
pretend to understand what you meant by saying Its good DNA
Except that she is a big fan of CSI: Miami and to her DNA in every episode means only one thing: semen.
Sex. Some guy cumming on or near the body. Samples. She drifts off and thinks about you cumming on
her, or in her. A pleasant, warm fantasy. So while you are offering a conciliatory explanation of why you look
so good for being 67, she is thinking about sex, semen, and getting horizontal with you.
You have reached an important juncture in the game: do you want to next her, because she is not really up to
your standards? To end the game you can let the interaction expire naturally. Or do you want to advance her
and shift the game to sex talk? 5
If you want to transition to sex talk, answer their unspoken question:
You: So what? Did you want a sample?
This pokes fun at their sexual state, setting and reinforcing the frame that they want you and makes it clear
that you understand them, can read that they are feeling sexual, and that you approve of them feeling sexual
towards you. The game is now clearly on.
They should laugh with that OMG Im feeling so sexual face they display, and if you like you can feign a
misunderstanding when you suddenly realize that they were thinking about SEX and pretend that you only
meant to offer them a hair plucked from your head (e.g., for a locket, to hold against your heart that you can
feel my strength and safety when you need it)!
You: OMG! I just realized, like, youre having impure thoughts! Ughh. Now I feel dirty, used. Like a mere sex
object for you to fantasize about. Oh, I need a shower. Or a beer. Go buy me a beer, stat!
A friend suggests his follow-on to the Its good DNA line: At least Im strengthening the gene pool. And
you? This is an expression of supreme self- confidence so it could fit in anywhere.
I can think of a dozen more ways to riff off this but the goal is to keep the discussion playful, light, humorous,
sexual, a little outrageous; and making certain they realize you approve of them chasing you.
The Alternative View: Fuck her anyway, even if shes not in MENSA.
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If she had been in pretty good rapport with you and this sudden objection is a little surprising coming from
her, assume she is impliedly asking the question, You wont embarrass me in front of my friends, because
they wont understand how cool you are, will you? In this case, give her a discrete knowing smile that
transmits, Yeah, I own you, dont I, princess? and consider extracting her for game continuation in a less
intrusive environment; basically, away from here.
My favorite method of dealing with this question, assuming she is testing out of her own insecurity, is to point
out that adjusting for woman years you are actually much younger than she! When she blurts out something
off-topic, like
Her : Youre waaaay too old for me
you look calmly at her and let a few seconds of silence build before you answer,
You: Weeelllll that was random. Was that a Tourettes thing? But of course, in woman years we both
know youre actually much older than I am
As an aside, young women have a personal desirability horizon which extends just 2 years from their current
age. That is, an 18 year old girl believes that while she now has an excellent body, in just 2 years shell
exhaust that limited commodity of her youth and be reduced to one of the haggard old 20 year olds she sees
hanging around the campus. If she is 20 she believes she has achieved an attractive balance of body, beauty,
and personalitybut in just 2 short years those qualities will have completely played themselves out and she
will be left, bereft of all that men find desirable, just as with all those 22 year old girls hanging out in the office
cafeteria. And so forth. Twenty-eight year old girls feel they can hold it together a little while longer, given
their new, aggressive, and sexual personae but in just 2 short years they face the impending horror of that
slouching senility that represents their future 30 year old self! Thus, the woman years defense strikes deeper
and instantaneously more emotionally than any man could ever understand. Use it carefully.
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How do you handle it? Well, treat statements of their preferences as the shit tests they are. Cute, but a little
annoying. Then keep doing attraction material until she is giggling that shes never met a man like you before
and all that nonsense of preferences is once again set aside in favor of her attraction for you.
See Mystery Method - The Routines Book (2007).pdf and Love Systems Magic Bullets.pdf for hundreds of more great routines to
The goal is to continually escalate the touch until your hand reaches down and touches her open hand. What
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kind of response did you get? If she jerks away, she is simply not ready yet. Move back up the arm, do some
more natural touching, and try again in :05 minutes. If youre getting some attraction signals, some IOIs from
her, then shell probably be aware of her earlier reaction and be looking forward to a warmer one the next
time.
The best reaction is where she lightly squeezes your hand, or either interlocks her fingers with yours or allows
you to do this momentarily. But only momentarily! Do not give her enough time for her defenses to creep in,
and then you must separate your hands after a short while so that she feels good about the physical contact
but is left wanting more. You can repeat the hands test in a few seconds.
If she allows your hands to touch and stay there but is otherwise neutral, you have some more work in
attraction to do. As before, attract then wash, rinse, repeat until you get the response youre looking for.
One advantage of the hands test is that unlike kissing, she can lightly contact and then hold your hand
concealed from the view of her friends, whom she is not sure will judge you as highly as she feels for you at
that moment. Simply pull her hand behind you, then hold it for a moment. One method for getting there is to
High Five her lightly at shoulder height, then at the moment of contact take her hand and while holding it,
pull it down so your arm is around her and your hands are holding each other in the small of her back, out of
sight of her friends and a secret the two of you share for the moment.
Remember: the hands never lie. If she is getting into you, she will want to explore hand touching and her
eagerness signals that you are ready to move on.
Second, there is Mysterys subtext method of hands testing which works great but requires a little more
speaking skill, stage presence, and self-control. Since these are all qualities an older guy should be DHVing
to the target woman, this should not be considered a negative.
When talking about some subject, since youll be carrying the wood 90% in this conversation, simply hold
your hands out in front of you palms up. Make sure that your words and this action are entirely unrelated: it
should look as though your hands appeared in front of you all by themselves.
This is an implicit invitation to the girl to do something, which is to place her hands in yours palm down, or
palm-to-palm. If she does, then that is a strong IOI. Squeeze her hands lightly for a second, then lightly
throw them down as though dropping them. This gets you the best of both words: she has the experience
of touch, and she is left wanting more.
If she holds her hands out in front of her, not touching yours but palm up, mirroring your postureshe is not
yet into you at all but being polite. Amp it up or eject. If she interrupts you and asks, What are you doing
with your hands?! be prepared to treat it as a mildly rude interruption, and say, What? Oh this? Thats all
subtext. NowI was saying and finish your conversational distraction thread. She may still reach out and
take your hands, and in so doing, mission accomplished.
So youre successful at your hands test? Good. Press on with the escalation to get her to kiss you.
One major difference between the young man and the older man at this juncture is that the older man can
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anticipate one response that younger men rarely get. If using Mysterys kiss routine, which is to ask her, Oh.
Did you want to kiss me?, younger men can expect one of three answers.
One, she can say Yes in which case you just lean in and kiss her. Go slowly, and make the feeling one
where she is a deliberate part of the kiss, a cooperative kiss, but do not delay. Go for it.
Two, she can say anything to indicate that shes not sure but if the answer isnt no you say, Lets find out
and lean in and kiss her anyway.
Three, she might say no, in which case you say, I didnt say you could. You just looked as if you wanted to
be kissed. Then you keep gaming for another :05 minutes, repeat the question, and this time she will give
you one of the first two answers.
Older men can also get a fourth response which is, Not here. This is good and essentially a yes, but she
is telling you that she is uncomfortable kissing you in front of her friends.
Calibrate. You can say, I understand, and let the moment pass because she has given you a calculated
answer that is a yes but says she wants discretion. The next obvious idea is to take her hand and say, Come
with me, and lead her into a more private area and kiss her there. It is not weak to do the first and most often
that is the probability move.
Neil Strauss as Style created the famous Evolution Phase Shift, as he wrote in this article inserted below:
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[NOTE FOR THE LESS EXPERIENCED: If you dont know how to erotically bite a girl, learn before
you do this. You want to take a big chunk of skinnot a little pinch!and slowly and firmly slide
your teeth together until they meet and release the skin. You may want to practice on your own
elbow first ]
4. After, I say, But do you know what the best thing in the world is? ... A bite ... right ... here.
And I point to the side of my neck. (Every now and then, Ill add, that this has to do with the
fact that it is where the jugular vein is most exposed, and since most sexual fantasies have to
do with submission and vulnerability, it sends all the fantasy signals flying.) Then Ill expose my
neck and say, Bite me right here as if I EXPECT her to do it. Fifty percent of the time she will. If
she doesnt, I just turn away calmly (punish), wait a few seconds, and then turn back and repeat,
Bite me right here. Usually here she will.
5. Half the time, her bite is lame. If so, I correct her and say, Thats not how you bite. Come
here. Then I give her a good bite on the neck and instruct her to try again. This time, she
ALWAYS does a great job.
6. Now you look her in the eye, smile mischievously/approvingly, and say, very slowly, not
bad. Then glance down at her mouth, back up at her eyes (i.e., triangular gazing), and ... yes
... finally ... you ... may ... if you want ... and if shes ready ... um ... kiss!
Style
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and it builds her sense of security around you ... and by putting things off slightly you build more sexual
tension.
The seduction has more elements to complete which are beyond the scope of this
memo, but once youre this far the fact that you are older is essentially irrelevant.
7 My friend, Jeff, whose skill as a natural is undisputed, strongly buy ever-so-politely disagrees with this premise. In his world the best
sex is passionate and with someone just recently met. Hard to disagree with this guy, hes so good.
Incidentally, I had a girl shit test me after first sex by saying, Well, that was a let down! I interpreted this as
an expression of her fear, that she thought she hadnt been good enough for me and that I would therefore
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dump her and not call again. I responded by taking her to dinner (at a modest place for food, not for
celebration) where I made certain the discussion topic was narrowly focused on the following Principles
to Teach the Girls, and To Live By paragraph, infra; and it worked to perfection, and she became a happy,
willing, love struck porn star sex slave who said every time we met, I thank God every day that He brought
you to meI dont know where Id be or what Id feel without you.
This is a mindset, that you can properly plan the longer term sexual relationship, for your benefit and hers.
Incidentally, I had a girl shit test me after first sex by saying, Well, that was a let down! I interpreted this as
an expression of her fear, that she thought she hadnt been good enough for me and that I would therefore
dump her and not call again. I responded by taking her to dinner (at a modest place for food, not for
celebration) where I made certain the discussion topic was narrowly focused on the following Principles
to Teach the Girls, and To Live By paragraph, infra; and it worked to perfection, and she became a happy,
willing, love struck porn star sex slave who said every time we met, I thank God every day that He brought
you to meI dont know where Id be or what Id feel without you.
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If you need alcohol to calm your nerves, or give you courage, or make you relaxed enough to approach and
game women, you are making a huge mistake. The remedy is not to drink but to work on your game and then
stay alcohol-free during the interaction.
There are times when the interaction is going well and refusing a drink could be seen as socially inept,
such as a glass of wine over lunch with a girl whose progress has been regular and the outcome seems
comfortably secure. Sure, go ahead and drink a glass, but be aware of the principle and maintain 100%
control over your game and the outcome by not letting the alcohol go to your head.
What about her? Isnt it better if she is drinking, so she loses her inhibitions and comes to you more easily, or
faster?
No, not in my opinion. Alcohol lends nothing to the equation I find remotely helpful. She has to stay 100%
conscious in order to appreciate what I have to offer, which is the experience of being with me. Worse, if she
does sleep with youand the next day has buyers remorse and self-justifies her sleeping with you as you
having taken advantage of herthe fact she was seen as drunk or even just happy could fuel witnesses
recollections that perhaps you did take advantage of her. If alcohol was involved and you brought a drink to
her, it even raises the spectre of you having drugged her with a roofie.
This is more than a hypothetical. An acquaintance picked up a girl at a night spot and the evening went well,
so well in fact that she took him home and had sex with him. He didnt think much of it as she seemed to be a
party girl, and there wasnt much prospect of a long term relationship in that tryst, so he forgot about it.
Forgot about it, that is, until the police knocked at his door, asked and confirmed his identity, then arrested
him for the rape she had sworn had taken place. Sure she was a nut case, but that wasnt apparent to the
guy at the time. (Think Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction.) The witnesses his attorney found all corroborated his
story and the case was dismissed but not before he lost 20 lbs, 6 months of his life to depression, and
$10,000 in attorneys fees. In my opinion, alcohol can be very bad. Avoid it when
gaming. Stay focused: dont drink.
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This belief is expressed in another way when women (and Hollywood movie writers) say that all men should
date within their leaguewhatever THAT means. But when we hear the objection that that woman is out
of your league, we understand that society is telling us you do not fit our societal model of who should
be dating whom, because if this rend in the universe is allowed then there will be no men left for the old,
parasitic females who comprise Oprah Winfreys viewership. My view is: ALL WOMEN ARE IN YOUR
LEAGUE. More important, there is NO WOMAN that is out of your league.
Riding on the coattails of that cultural assumption is the belief by many older men that young women will have
no interest in them. Nonsense! The game is different but the joy open for you to discover is that younger
women are dying to find a cool older guy. You know things the young guys dont. And it isnt about lavishing
money or travel or high living on them; its about having a better emotional and sexual life for their time with
you.
I recall having dinner with workmates, where a pretty 21 year old girl was desperately trying to gain the
attention of a 55 year old guy. She tried everything, even down to unbuttoning the top two buttons of her top,
then leaning forward (so he could examine her tits) while twisting and contorting her body so as to appear
to be checking the door for a friend when her real purpose was to give him permission to look while she
was conspicuously looking away. He still didnt take the bait and look and finally she left, frustrated and
crestfallen, for the ladies room.
I asked my buddy, Are you interested in her? and he answered, No, shes too young for me.
If by that he had meant, She is so young that she does not appeal to me then I would have agreed. It is his
right to determine what appeals to him and what I think or desire is of no matter. He should never be out to
conform to my expectations, as a high school boy might subject himself to peer pressure. A four hundred
pound Pacific Islander girl? If shes okay by him then I approve, too, not that my approval matters.
But what he meant was, I believe that she thinks that I am too old for her, as she
has already commented that her father is nearly 10 years younger than I am. When I
heard that I was dispirited. He had raised the barrier Shes out of my league. Nothing I could say in
the time allowed could convince him otherwise. She went home, upset and lonely to her bed and he went
home, ignorant and deprived of her wonderful company because of his having unwittingly embraced that
detestable cultural rule that all men should date within their own league. (Whatever that means.)
Ignore what others say. If young women appeal to you, and if youre willing to put in the time and effort to
gain the skill of dating and enjoying them, then JUST DO IT. The world will be a better place for it, and your
life will improve as well.
Note: my reference herein to 20 year old women and the like is not meant to impose a preference on my
male readers, but to set a lower boundary that the reader should feel free to raise in his own mind as he
reviews this memo. Substitute 30 year old or 40 year old as the expression if that makes this memo more
understandable to you, but be aware that young, beautiful women have no problem developing an interest in
men as old as their grandfathers, so long as that man practices good game.
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And by the way, even 20 year old women are not the lower limit since I have had interested 18 year old women
approach, open, and game me. The simple rule is that if the girl is age-legal, you can be 78 years old with
a healthy, strong game, and get her attracted and sexually pursuing you and To Hell with the opinions of
those lesser mortals in Lifes bleachers!
Age appropriateness has even made its way into Wikipedia. Note the pseudo- scientific tone of these experts:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships
A suggestion: read the article then celebrate by picking up, entrancing, and fucking the brains out of a
gorgeous, intelligent, sensitive, sweet 22 year old womanand make her your girlfriend, so long as she
promises to be a good girl for you.
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you, because he might think you were a pervert and reject you.
You: Tomorrow youll return to your steady, reliable, regular boyfriend and hell be there, as always.
You: So its going to happen, you and me. So relax and enjoy being with me, so we can clear the air of all
this silly sexual tension you keep creating, and then we can get back to just hanging out, and feeling good.
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Youre looking at me the way a fat kid looks at a cheeseburger. This is a really great spot for me: Im really
well lit.
Youre getting me all emotional. I promised my friends I wouldnt go home with anyone tonight.
Something smells great in here. Oh wait, thats me.
You guys are trouble. or You guys are bad girls. Ill have to watch out for you.
Youre cool. You can help me pick up chicks.
Why are girls always so logical? Why cant they just feel and be in the moment like guys?
What kind of girls do you like? Stated calmly and directly, this seeks to elicit a bisexual response in addition
to being cocky-funny.
Are you drunk or are you usually like this? Is she always like this? Did you forget to take your
medication today?
Wed never get along, were too similar. Youd never take my shit and I wouldnt take yours. You know, wed
always fight. And I would always win. Youre like my little sister. Lovable, but annoying.
Youre bad. Youre making me think impure thoughts.
Okay, youre my new girlfriend. Oh wait! Can you cook? Youre such a dork.
Youre a Republican, arent you?
Youre a shy girl arent you? You guys gotta get her out more. You usually hang out at the library, dont
you?
Youre just so cute! Im going to take you home in my pocket and ask my roommates if I can keep you! Wait a
minute are you housebroken?
Dork! Im going to get you one of those little hats with a propeller on it.
When she drops or spills something, look a little exasperated and say,
See? This is why we cant have nice things or
Thats okay. You dont have to be nervous or
Offer to get her a sippy cup, or ask the bartender if he has a sippy cup for her, and then say, Easy, tiger!
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You : I get paid, IN ADVANCE, first class expenses for travel and accommodations plus $200 per day
per diem, plus $2000 per day for the first 6 hours of working timeAND Im fully subscribed through next
March if you wanted and could afford an appointment.
Her: Blah, blah? Blah, blah, BLAH, blah?
You: It is a matter of talent, and artistic expression. I have it. Whether a Cardigan Welsh Corgi, Lhasa Apso,
Pomeranian, Giant Schnauzerit doesnt matter because these hands can find the AKC show winner buried
beneath the matted coat [looking at her hair, and seemingly distracted]say, what do they call your
hair style? The Waffle, isnt it? [Conspiratorially] You know, I could probably DO SOMETHING with oh,
nevermind!
You: As I was saying, its a matter of MALE STRENGTH, too, because you have to have strong hands to
command the respect of the larger breeds.
You: Here [holding out your hands for her to put hers in yours]. Let me see your hands. [Take them.] Now.
Squeeze. SQUEEZE THEM. Squeeze my hands as hard as you AAAGGH! [and throw her hands down, but
playfully].
You: You have prissy hands. No dog would ever respect you. Male dogs would try to MOUNT YOU. Have
you ever been MOUNTED BY A DOG? [Look at her suspiciously]
Her: NO! Blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah!
You: Hmmmm. I dont know about you [suspiciously, then brightly]
You: So! if you could be just one type of dog, what type of dog would
you be?
Her: Blah. A blah, blah dog.
You: [Hesitate as though reflecting on her answer, and then you seem to understand that she gave you a cool
choice after all.] A BLAH DOG? Awesome, good choice! In fact if you were a [Chihuahua] and I saw you at
the pound, Id take you home with me. Id put you in my pocket and walk out the door with you.
Her: Blah, blah, blah.
You: But wait a second. Are you house broken? Because if you PEE ALL OVER THE FLOOR Ill take you
straight back to your pound cage!
Her: ME? Pee on the floor? Blah, blah [energetic] BLAH!
You: Okay, cool! So you and I would go on great adventures together. Id teach you tricks and youd do them
for me, and wait a minute! [Suspiciously] You are an adventurous little doggie, arent you? Because in
order to hang with me you have to be ADVENTUROUS to share in AMAZING things with me.
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Her : [Some variation on Of course Im adventurous, which is a pre-set for later sexual attitudes, too!]
You : Come here. Let me check you out [and then slowly lean in, and deeply smell her neck]. See? If you were
my little puppy I would now know everything about you, by sense of smell. Whether you were afraid or
aroused either way, feeling fully dominated by me, the literal Alpha Dog.
You : So, cool [Stop as though considering carefully, then] Okay ILL KEEP YOU. But youre going to
be a good and obedient little doggie for me, arent you?
Then later on, and through the evening, you can occasionally reinforce the doggie frame by saying, Good
Girl! when she does something you approve of. You can pat her knee or head, or even her hand. This will
be a call-back to the push-pull and fun feelings she had earlier when you pulled the routine.
By the way, some have suggested to me that for the under 35-crowd females, adventurous is a euphemism
for anal sex. I cant say I disagree from the feedback Ive gotten. Swinggcat advances that view, too, as an
ancillary benefit to his contribution to the routine. Just so you are aware of what she thinks you are implying
within the questioning sequence.
I have been asked, Why not take pride in your profession and tell her what you really do? Shell be
impressed, wont she? Answer: NO SHE WONT because you allowed her to take the superior interviewer
position, so you lose. Go ahead and keep trying it that old way and let me know how it goes; or try this
and see if your results are a little more spectacular. Then for extra credit, see if you can start to unravel the
esoteric female psychology that explains why Dog Groomer works. If you have the time, Ill explain it over a
beeror better yet, demo it to show how it works.
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To get good sex you must give good sex. Become an expert at giving great sex and
you will experience in return the kind of sex life your friends can only fantasize about.
This establishes that she can expect great things from and with you, and does her the great service of telling
her that she is allowed and expected to become adventurous and skilled in sex, and that this is a formula for
her to hold on to you. She will also see this as a path to increasing her value overall, which may serve her
when she is with you and for that possible period after you have left.
Principle 2:
While it is the privilege of men to love, savor, appreciate and embrace the taste of a
womans pussy, so is it the womans great privilege to learn to savor and appreciate the
taste of a mouthful of cum.
Many women will say that they dont give head, where the real reason is that they are afraid of allowing you
to see that they are inexperienced, and that they might humiliate themselves by doing a poor job.
Explaining this as a natural right of beautiful, sexual women, you set the stage for them to learn how much
fun it is for them to suck your cock.
Although I have written on this subject elsewhere, let me add here that I usually mention large numbers of
blowjobs, where they can learn and refine their cocksucking skill, so they can relax and know it will not be an
infrequent experience but a regular event in their lives. I also adopt the tone that when they blow me, and
when I comedown the back of their throats, that I am doing this for their benefitwhich so far has always
been adopted as their experience with me.
Principle 3:
Good sex involves frequency and timing. Men have priority as to timing, and
women have priority as to duration. That is, since men take some period of
recharging between orgasms, the man is pleasured first and according to his desires
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so that he may be physically recovering for a second orgasm while the woman has her turn.
After the man has cum then the woman enjoys hours, or as much as she wants, of slow,
languid, intensive attention. When the mans recharge period has run and he is ready again,
the cycle repeats itself as he takes priority, then transition priority back to the woman, and so
forth for as much time as is available.
Simultaneous orgasm is one goal young women fantasize about achieving, but it is harder than it sounds and
comes at a great cost. In the beginning, you should encourage the alternative view of maximizing each
others individual pleasure at independent moments and save the simultaneous cum for when you both really
know each others responses.
Then you need to discuss a fundamental difference between men and women, that men have an orgasm and
usually require a refractory period where we recover and reload. For an older guy this can be a couple of
hours, in some cases, much longer. What this suggests is that for the man to experience the greatest sex he
should be allowed to cum 2 or 3 or 4 times in the day, and to achieve this he must get started earlyhave an
orgasmwait a couple of hourshave anotherand so forth, until he runs out of time.
Therefore, the man cums first.
Women can have many, many orgasms throughout the day with a much shorter refractory period. If the man
has cum first and then it is their turn, she will have a couple of hours at the minimum to enjoy a full-body
pleasuring at the hands of the man.
While this may sound a little mechanical, it works out great in practice so long as the woman adopts this
philosophy as her own. In practice it may work like this:
9:00am
9:30am to noon
Man pleasures woman with massage, eating pussy, and fucking as she
cums three times
Noon
Woman massages man, gives hand job then fucks him until he cums for
a second time
Lunch
1:00pm
1:30pm to 5:00pm
Man repeats womans favorites, 69ing with her (where she is the
privileged cummer), and fucks her as she cums 4 more times
5:00 pm to 7:00pm
7:30pm
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In cab on way home from movie, woman gives man a hand job then
sucks on him as he cums because although this was a little
inconvenient, she believed that this was the optimum time for him to cum
and so created the opportunity for them both
Trust me, this can be a very good thing for you both.
Principle 4:
Good sex is about learning and trying new things, and expanding your sexual
envelope. Your mantra must be that you will try everything if to do so is to enhance
your and your partners pleasure.
My goal is to discover exactly what turns you on the most, what makes you hottest,
and craziest, and gets you up for the longest, most intense experience, and the most
frequent orgasm at the highest intensity that lasts for the greatest duration; that makes
your body feel like it is exploding with the power of the sun. And once I discover what
that is and the cool thing is that you probably dont know exactly what that is at this
time, that that experience is buried deep in your DNA and it is our privilege to dig it out
and discover it together. And then once I discover what it is that makes you hottest,
that you enjoy the most, the gives you the greatest most unimaginable pleasure ever
no matter how weird or strange or common or pervertedIm going to do nothing else
for you but that over and over and over and over, 20 or 50 or a hundred times, and Ill
only stop when I discover something new, something that you like even better, and then
Ill switch to that. Because youre that important to me, and because youre lucky
enough to have met me.
I explain this to women as a matter of fact, and it has never failed to elicit a happy smile. When I point out
that what turns them on is something that I dont at the moment, and neither do they, but that we will find out
togetherI am explaining that even if in their deepest dreams and desires, they have something really
immoral and kinky they want to do but feel it is too dirty or too uncomfortable to reveal to me, then when I
discover this (and they are not responsible because I am the one who discovered it, without much of their
help) I will keep doing it until I find something they like that is better.
Principle 6:
Men can cum a few ways, some very pleasurable, kinky, fun, perverted, and
emotionally bonding, and all are worth the effort. But women can cum dozens of
different ways and combinations of ways, in so many different parts of their bodies and
in some cases, all at once, with so many different intensities that it must surely be a
great privilege to be a woman. So my pledge to you will be for so long as we are
together, to constantly strive to make your sexual experience better than you thought
possible, and the envy of every woman you know now or shall ever meet in the future.
Good sex is absolutely required for good health. The man and the woman that have an
intense, exciting, varied, and kinky sex life are mentally sharper and happier; they enjoy
their work more and achieve better results; their bodies remain healthier both from the
sex itself and from the general feeling of well being, which allows exercise and good
eating and other factors to keep the body fit. Women especially are vulnerable to
depression without great sex in their lives, and the experience supplants any need for
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Prozac-type drugs. And when difficulty in life strikes, the memory of recent,
overwhelming, intensely pleasurable sex can be the difference between responding to
the difficulty constructively or collapsing under the stress. Repeat after me: Good sex
is absolutely required for good health. It is a duty we owe to one another.
Self-explanatory.
Principle 8:
Good sex is the glue that binds two people together. Love is ephemeral: if you want to
stay together, have good sex regularly. If you dont care about the relationship and you
want it to come apart, ignore the other partners health and sexual needs and the
relationship with wither.
This states a truism. There cannot be love long term, without sex. If they want to keep you, then sex is part
of the bargain. If the sex goes away, then the love ends and so does the relationship.
Women are propagandized that this is not the case, that love is eternal even if and when they decide to give
up on sex. Coincidentally, and quite conveniently, our culture has taught them that even if the sex dies, that
the man retains an absolute duty of taking care of them. That this is a one-way bargain and patently unfair
and unacceptable to men is an element never taught to them.
We correct this misapprehension early on so that the sex, and the love, stays forever or as long as you
desire it to.
Principle 9:
Good sex is so important that it is not always possible or desired to wait until the
mood strikes you. If the opportunity for good sex arises (bearing in mind the
priorities of Principle 3, supra), start! Become a performance artist for the one you
love! Your interest will catch up shortly and youll honor the other principles above with
greater fidelity than waiting around for the mood that may decide to never reappear.
This is another myth to be busted, that sex should occur when both parties feel like it. If this were the case
there would be very little sex. Your job is to note when she seems sexually interested and then offer her great
sex; and her job is the same, in reverse. While this may seem obvious to the man it must be explained to the
woman, and again, early on.
Follow all of these guidelines and you are mostly the way home to a good sexual relationship.
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Appendix I Dealing with the I Have a Boyfriend Shit Test; Notes from the Field
I ordered dinner and the only place to sit was next to an interesting looking woman. (Actually, there were lots
of others places free but the proper mindset is, Right next to HER is the only place left to sit and then do it;
a variation of the 3-2-1-GO! directive.) She was athletic looking, about 40-42 years old, slender, and had an
Office Professional look to her as though she might be a lawyer. Perhaps a 6 but she was the only one near,
and thus a target for practice, and she proved to have a lively personality.
I simply sat down at the table with her, smiling as I sat, and delivered the peremptory Mind if I join you?
introduction. She had calm eyes, smiled with her entire face and said, Of course not. Id love the company.
(This is the usual reaction, by the way.)
While pleasant I could tell that the conversation wasnt going anywhere, other than me making her day a little
brighter, so I was preparing to exit when she took a call on her cell, turned slightly away, and chatted with
a girlfriend for a minute. I wasnt really listening as it seemed a good omen to me for leaving, that she was
disconnecting herself from me to concentrate on her cell call, when I overheard her remark to her caller that,
I told him I already had a boyfriend so hed leave me alone.
So I stuck around for the required :02 or :03 minutes before she finished her call, and I asked her, Did that
really work? Telling some guy youve got a BOYFRIEND? And that was enough to make him go away?
Big open mouth, surprised smiling face: Uhh, yeah. It worked. Rather, it works. I just didnt want to talk to
that guy anymore.
And this lead me into a discussion, and a practice session with her that is worth reporting here, about how a
guy who knows what he is doing can easily get around that bit o bullshit.
I said, Look, all guys who get it know that all beautiful women [sic] have boyfriends all the time: no woman
will ever admit she doesnt. So I would never ask, and if you just spontaneously blurted out a Tourettes
Thing about having a boyfriend, Id either ignore it or deal with it so it would have no power over me. A
discussion ensued but it was clear she was suddenly turned on by the idea of what Lance Mason calls The
Banter Battle.
I gave her the challenge. Permission for some fun. Hit me.
Go ahead, just keep saying I have a boyfriend and Ill show you I can outlast you, that you cant win if the
guy knows what hes doing. She nodded and calmly fired off, I have a boyfriend in a tone suggesting she
was not interested me, an excellent bit of role play.
Here is the list of responses I gave her back, one right after the other, as well as I can remember them. Trust
me: its easier to do it into their faces than recall them while typing, because you can calibrate, and feel
buoyed by their facial expressions when you can see theyre getting into the play fighting.
I HAVE A BOYFRIEND!
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Right. [Ignoring it.] Seven oclock will be too late. So make it 6 oclock and bring a bottle of wine. [Note:
this first one surprised her, as though she had thought no one could ever have a comeback for her, and so
she smiled so big and broadly I thought she was going to start laughing. The subsequent responses just
added to this response. And I dont even consider this one of the more powerful answers, either.]
She says her line; I respond by quietly leaning in as though whispering something conspiratorially, as though
Im a little surprised at her lack of sophistication and say, Actually, Im not inviting the boyfriend, Im inviting
you [and switching back to ignoring the thought] so wear some nice blue jeans that show off your ass and
some cute shoes to go with them. Big smile from her at my use of the word, ass, too. You cannot over-use
the word ass in a conversation with women.
Again. Whoa, princess, come here (and she leans in). You know, having a boyfriend is actually a pretty
normal thing, so making a big deal of it makes you look ... a little ... weird, you know? So wed better get
going, because theres not much time!
Once more. Cool. Good thing Im not the jealous type. And dont forget that bottle of Merlot I told you to
bring.
Another. Okay, okay. So well invite him over to fix us breakfast tomorrow morning... but I have to tell you, if
he doesnt make us fresh squeezed orange juice? Ill have to CLUB HIM. She burst out laughing at this one.
One last time: I have a boyfriend. Whoa! Stop. Come here. [I lean in a little as she leans in more.] You
know were going to have sex later on, right? Because thats the ONLY WAY we can clear the air of all this
SILLY SEXUAL TENSION you keep making, so we can GET THAT BEHIND US and get on with just getting to
know each other as real friends. [Shocked but smiling broadly] Really. Itll happen. Dont worry ... so! ... you
were saying you were going to select a nice Pinot Noir to bring to my place, wasnt it?
There was some minor interruption, so she dealt with that but then came back immediately to the discussion.
Wow. [Long pause.] I had no idea. That was really effective. Really, really effective. I just had no idea. That
was good.
I could have added one more but it just didnt seem to fit into the quick positive vibe wed established, and
that would have been to say something like, Wow, you have a boyfriend! How cool! Im glad you met
someone who can meet all your needs, and is the 100% perfect man for you, with no reservations of your
lifelong commitment to him.
When are you getting married? The problem with this is that it is more of a neg than dealing with the
boyfriend thing and so has limited use. Also it doesnt naturally lead into anything unless you forcefully shift
the discussion into something like the Television Pattern which I like to use.
I have a boyfriend can also have a secondary meaning which you should be on the lookout for: she might
be trying to say, I have a boyfriend SO WE MUST BE DISCRETE, where she is checking to see if she can
play with you without compromising her current relationship, which she may not be ready to concede for so
many reasons. Any of the earlier responses will work there also so long as you thereafter give her enough
feedback that she believes you will not embarrass her either in that venue, where there might be witnesses,
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or to her boyfriend should you be the stalker-type who might call her home repeatedly.
If the boyfriend thing keeps coming back and isnt easily dismissed, cavalierly as I hint might be
accomplished above, you might want to add a discussion about how women almost always embrace the
concept of It doesnt count when calculating their own loyalties to their boyfriends. For example, many
women will say, I have never cheated on my husband/boyfriend!but if you answer, Really? But what
about me? Youve been fucking me for 4 years. Dont I count?, they will say, That may be true, darling, but
YOU DONT COUNT.
YOU DONT COUNT. If they are using you for sex, and friendship, with no intention of leaving their primary
male sponsor (whether it be husband or boyfriend), then they consider themselves exhibiting perfect fidelity
... after the slight mathematical adjustment to leave out of the calculations those infidelities that dont
count. Seriously, I have discussed the concept with womenwho then quickly agreed, Oh yeah, thats
absolutely right. I have known guys that didnt count [in my personal life], either! The point is, if you discuss
the concept of I DONT COUNT, you are continuing to lay the foundation for her to accept you as her new
temporary boyfriend, which will not replace or harm her current, main supporting boyfriend.
Thats all for now. Both an interesting field experiment because I had the balls to bring it up and practice
driving her expectations around with it, followed by some later thinking about how I could have extended the
conversational thread if circumstances had allowed.
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Appendix J Body Language and Tit Displays; Notes from the Field
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Zip Note: Ruminations on Airport Big Tit, Cleavage Girl (2008)
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As I waited in the airline boarding area, I chatted with TWO of our colleagues. Both nice guys, both deeply
religious, and both likely to be highly disapproving of one of our number running [practice] game on a girl
sitting next to us. So I couldnt do anything but some body language stuff and some sideways eye contact
but since both guys were actively engaging me there wasnt much else to do. An opportunity missed.
But not completely. She was about 30 years old wearing nice, tight blue jeans and with short, dark brown
hair. She had a workout body with the exception of really, really nice tits which she compressed under a
sweater top except for an obvious perfect showing of 4 deep cleavage. She was about 57 tall, a 9 in my
book (but based on a lot of things of which hotness was not the biggest element); she just looked like she
might be perfect for me. She probably weighed 130 lbs but was a size 2. Just a lot of muscle.
The first guy that I saw, who I saw before I saw her, was actually sitting across the wait-aisle (chair-row facing
chair-row) and about 3 seats down from the girl. Since I had watched him walk over there and sit down about
50 ahead of me, it was clear that he had seen her and was seeking proximity to her. (God Damn! We male
primates are SO predictable!) I noticed her only as I SAT DOWN, opposite him and with one chair space
between me and the girl to my right. That was not a bad setup, given the terrible limitations of the moment.
She glanced up and gave me a quick shit-test smile. It transmitted, Oh, youre OLD and youre NOT
IN MY LEAGUE with a kind of smirk before her eyes darted down to her magazine. This is my FAVORITE
RESPONSE, by the way! If she had done anything else I would have suspected that she would not be high
quality enough to trigger my interest after :02 minutes. So I shot back my automatic squinty eyed smile that
says, Oh, yeah, RIGHT. You WANT ME, dont you, you little VIXEN!
Its all about the mindset. The rest of the time I merely did passive demonstrations of value. I dominated the
drama side of the equation and when Supervisor T.G. came over (whom you probably know as a really decent
guy in the office) I strongly accredited him by pointing out his credentials. You just have to visualize how I
do this but anyone within earshot will know hes both a high value male plus a REALLY COOL GUY, and of
course, my tone of voice implies that I am his equal or even superior so EVERYONE HERE wins. Except for
the dumbshit other guy who kept proving how mono-tonal, boring, one dimensional and stupid he was ... so I
had to marginalize him, vis a vis the girl.
At one point Supervisor T.G. mentioned that our company was bidding on a contract with the Saudis that
required NO WOMEN on the personnel listso I riffed off about how much TROUBLE WOMEN WEREwhere
the tone of voice clearly established playfulness and not misogynist viewsand then I turned to the girl, who
was ignoring me but leaning towards me, and turned away, which is another basic form of primate proximity
seeking behavior, a really good IOI [indicator of interest]. Turning in her direction but ostensibly talking to my
friends only, I said, take Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolieshe was reading a Hollywood-type magazine article
prominently featuring those two Angelina is clearly the source of all problems there, its just so OB-vious!
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She did not look up or towards me but she smiled. Notice this was an emotional computer activating remark,
full of drama, and it demonstrated that I clearly was not supplicating to herI was not the suck up type
and did not care what she thought, but that I was willing to engage in play-fighting about harmless but fun
subjects. These are good, anti-AFC traits to demonstrate.
Unfortunately, I kept getting pulled back by the other two. They were clearly aware of the girl and were also
aware that in order to feel in their own comfort zones, they needed me to keep engaging them. I suppose
thats a common AFC/guy thing and we do it all the time.
This girl gave me three more IOIs and I mention them as instructive of how important it is to carefully read
their body language and responses.
(1) When I got up from my seat to get my boarding pass, she also got up but circled the opposite way to get
around the chair-row. All she could do was move to a place near the ropes as though waiting for her section
to be called for boarding. So she allowed me to seek proximity with her. This in no accident but ROUTINE
female behavior! And 99% of the guys would miss it, and I dont want you to miss it. She was giving me a
go for opening (as if I needed her approval!)
(2) On board I had to sit in the way-up-front part, so I got on later and then stood in the companionway
and looked aft. Her vision must have been adequate (and remember that many cannot see well because
they dont like to wear contacts because it makes their eyes red, and they dont like to wear glasses, either)
because I made eye contactheld it until she looked away firstand smirked at her again. DOMINANCE.
When you ask women, When did you first realize that you were attracted to me? the answer is usually
something about an eye contact thing like that. Sometimes they like to quote that line from the movie, Jerry
Maguire: You had me at hello.
(3) When I got off, I couldnt open the door right away for some technical reasons so when I did step out I
stepped out about 3 or 4 behind the girl! Pure blind luck. And I did not see her until she was abreast of me
and turning the corner because she had been concealed behind a big fat guy in the aisle. As she walked by
she smiled and SHOOK HER HEADwhich was another cool shit-test that said, You blew your chance with
me by being tentative but I know it can be seized back by being playfully dominant. All I had to say was,
Hey! What was up with that Im so hot you cant talk to me look you gave me back there? Yeah, yeah,
princess: I saw what you thought. No, I just wanted to give you a chance to APOLOGIZE to me ... no, no,
wait, Im not done yet ... and buy me a cup of tea. You know. To MAKE UP for it. And I might decide to forgive
you.
I guarantee that would have worked. Cool playful fucking DOMINANCE! Also of note is the fact I was in
civilian clothes so I could get away with it. Because of the risks of being in costume I would never be so
normal: in costume you have to dial it back a bit, in case shes a psycho and wanted to complain to my
employer. That would be bad.
But it was a loss. For her, mainly, because there will always be another perfect girl coming along momentarily
for me and you.
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Other thoughts: Tits! She knew she had nice tits; the cleavage thing was not an accident. So you have to
expect to get shit-tested on her tits fairly early in the game. This is a neat subtlety I have experienced before
since if a woman can CONTROL YOU with her TITS she will never like or respect you. The trick is that you
cant IGNORE THE TITS: you have to appreciate them while letting her know that you arent controlled by
them. This sounds like doublespeak but there is a solution.
The basic principle is this. She knows she has nice tits. Her tits are the source of her pride and joy. She
has almost certainly NAMED THEM. (Yes, really. This is fun to talk about later as in intimate riffing source
of material. Youll learn of Thelma and Louise, the Girls or the twins, Laverne and Shirley, Daphne and
Rachel, or Pamela Andersons Pancho and Leftie. I kid you not.) She flaunts them and wants all women
and all non-AFC men to look at them and admire them.9
She also uses her tits as a quick first screen. If she can determine that you are amazed at her tits and slightly
distracted, then she will think, this guy is a LOW VALUE guy since he obviously doesnt have any experience
handling babies like these and she will lose attraction. You get blown off. But if you are NOT CONTROLLED
by her tits, then she thinks, What?! He is not supplicating to me! OH, NO! He must routinely have access to
boobs better than mine so he is [GASP!] HIGH VALUE! And she feels attraction, just like that.
Her behavior reflects these beliefs. Shes going to do tit displays for youarching her back after
accidentally undoing a button or two so you can accidentally look down her cleavage, plus leaning forward
for a better angle and turning her head to look for someone over there to give you the opportunity to
really, really check them out during your tea/coffee together, and then see if she can bust you looking at
them. If she can arch, look away, and suddenly snap her attention back at just the right momentand shes
spent a lifetime practicing that timing and sequenceshe will win. SHE IS BETTER AT THIS SHIT TEST THAN
YOU so dont even try to compete.
Dont stare but also dont care. If she accuses you of looking at her titsa common thing is for them to point
at their eyes and say, my eyes are up here, misteryou have to do a couple of things.
First, be non-reactive. Just laugh at her like shes a little girl who is nervous and intimidated around you. BE
NON-REACTIVE. This should be easier because youre being apprised of the risk here, now, so you can
prepare yourself mentally. One simple method to is simply not hear her; that is, react as though she has
said nothing at all. There is no requirement that you even acknowledge a shit-test so sometimes this simple
answer is the best available to you.
Second, call her on the tactic. There are a couple of things you can say, depending on the level of aggression
you feel like lofting her way. Re-frame the issue as her trying to point out how pretty she is to get your
attention. Say this, for example,
Another subtlety: women do NOT want low class, beta-males, faking alpha-wannabes, weak men to look at their tits; and to these
men, they will transmit the message I am not a sex object and stop objectifying me with your creepy stares! Sometimes theyll even say
those words out loud. Just be aware that that is NOT how they want you to be affected, and that they want YOU to look at, enjoy, value,
and be controlled by their wonderful, special, amazing tits. Do everything there except the part about being controlled by.
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Whoa! Princess! I get it. Yeah, I do: youre pretty. But pretty is just the basic cover charge to
get into the game. Look around: pretty is common. Its everywhere. But pretty always fades.
Whats important is whats in here [holding fist against your sternum].
Another response re-frames her shit-test as her being into you, and being too obvious about it,
Oh, my God! Youre INTO me, arent you? Otherwise you wouldnt be arching your back and trying to show
off your breasts so much!
Listenyoure doing OKAY with me ... so far ... so just relax and be yourself. Dont be nervous. Youre
actually doing pretty good right now ... so long as you DONT SCREW THINGS UP in the next few minutes ...
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That last part is criticalso long as you DONT SCREW THINGS UP in the next few minutes ... because
that is humorous and is the compensating neg to the compliment you just gave her, which can NEVER be
allowed to sit there as though spoken by an AFC. YOU MUST DO THAT LAST CLAUSE to get the thing to
work! MUST MUST MUST.
Heres something else Ive said. Would you stop squeezing your boobs like that? [Then nicely, as an aside]
Its coming off a little TRY-HARD. And grin to let her know that HER TITS are NOT CONTROLLING YOU,
and it is a playful flirt. You called her on her bullshit, which is a good thing, but you did it in a nice way and
that keeps you in the drivers seat.
Your body language is important and here is the general idea. Most guys [wrongly!] will lean back slightly,
drop their chin, and cross their armsin a defensive posture known to primates everywhere. Better is to
open your chest posture slightly and either step in a bit if youre more than 3 away, or if standing close then
LEAN IN SLIGHTLY. How much to step in or lean in? It has to feel like you are sliding into her personal space
and perfectly comfortable being there and OWNING her.
After dealing with the initial shit-test distract her by asking her something, to shift gears before her brain
catches up. Anyway ... so whats with this COMPANY you work for, anyway? Cant they just let you stay in
one place so you can actually get some work done? And why havent you worked up the courage to offer to
buy me a cup of tea while you continue to hit on me?
One girl had been trying to own me for several days and in a fit of frustration, because I had been nonreactive to all her high intensity Im so pretty shit-testing, was to suddenly open her coat and flash me. A
long, wide-open, :10 second flash. Her gaze, however, was cold, focused, and evaluating: not sexy at all. I
didnt react except to point to one tit and say, It its a little bit SMALLER than the other one, dont you
think? And then I laughed. At that moment I OWNED her ass! Or more precisely, her breasts.
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If shes doing something that you can interpret [frame!] as trying to gain favor with you, you can nod approvingly while slyly
observing, Okaaaay now youre SUCKING UP to me I LIKE THAT in a girl! And if you dont get the double-entendre here, youre
not paying attention!
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My last thoughts about her tits: if she is really obvious about showing them off and comfortable with her body,
she may try to point out that you are a PIG for looking at her in an inappropriate way or some other shit.
The way to handle that is to BE NON- REACTIVEslowly RAISE YOUR HAND as if to tell her to be quiet
and SLOWLY and DELIBERATELY say, W h o a Im not yet finished as you slowly continue to
examine her body as though she were a manikin. This is funny, dominant, and has the amazing ability to turn
women on right there. (Ask me to demonstrate if you cant picture this working.)
Years ago in college this one average nice looking girl with HUGE PERFECT titsIll never forget the black
T-shirt she was wearing: Why Dont You Come Up and Simi Sometime? Simi Valley Vineyards knocked
on my dorm room door. She was nice to me but as she talked she shit-tested me by arching her back and
doing a seriously impressive tit display and I collapsed. Totally. I crash and burned: Ahh, ahh, ahh, ahh,
ahh and so forth. Her face went cold, she backturned me and never spoke to me again. Theres a lesson
in there amidst my pain and that is that its important to get this tit thing under control. The lesson she
handed me is reflected in everything Ive discussed in this note.
From the girls perspective, her initial sense is that she wants you to look at her tits but then, based on your
reaction and her assessment of your reaction, you get slotted into one of two categories. If you confidently
check out her whole body KNOWING SHE IS WATCHING YOU and you DO NOT PAUSE at her tits? She
knows you are accustomed to being with girls like her, so big tits are cool but nothing special to you, and
she sees you as high value. But if you initially make eye contact and then try to surreptitiously STARE AT
HER TITS when she looks away, and she then busts you? Her reaction will be that you must NOT be
accustomed to girls like her, those with big tits and concommitent high value, and so she experiences
revulsion and disgust as to youand youre dead in the water. Worse, to her friends she will describe her
feeling about you as being creepy. Never a good thing.
One way to practice, without having to be in the actual presence of a woman shit- testing with tit displays,
is to watch videos of such encounters and then reverse-program yourself by asking, and practicing, What
would I do in such a situation?
One place to find these is Metacafe on the internet. This service downloads mini-ideo links posted by
subscribers and is not unlike Youtube. While most of these are to games and photo collections, one series
is from a Russian skit-comedy television show that features beautiful girls suddenly made naked in a Candid
Camera-type setting. For example, a pretty blond girl is demonstrating a washing machine to a customer
and her clothes are accidentally pulled off by the spin cycle! Man is surprised, shocked and OWNED.
Or the girl is standing at a bus stop to ask a man for the time and her clothes are suddenly ripped off
when the bus leaves! Sometimes a nurse who is taking a mans blood pressure and when she pulls out
the stethoscope her tits pop out, too! The Russians seem to love watching girls in all kinds of unexpected
situations have their [perfect, large] tits pop out; but then again, I like that, too. So funny! Silent Russian TV,
in the Benny Hill tradition, except with sexy nudity 2 or 3 times every week.
Another genre are mini-videos where some American girl shit-tests and OWNS a guy working in a clothing
store. One video has a big-titted blond in a bikini have some nerdy male AFC clerk help her to fit test
several bikini tops. Naturally he gets OWNED, where getting owned is the opposite of passing her shit-test.
Another girl asks for help selecting clothes from the rack and suddenly pulls her tube top down and asks, Do
my boobs look crooked to you? Same result, everybody laughs.
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This is all in good humor but it inspires the question, If you encountered something like this how would you
handle it? This is not suggesting preparedness for television but to practice the more likely tit display shittesting you will face in real life.
Another author suggested that one useful purpose for strip club titty bars was to grant men proximity to big,
flashing, shaking breasts where the men can practice being non- reactive, recognizing that our DNA-driven
impulse is to be anything but non-reactive! Were supposed to get aroused by titties being shaken in our face,
even as such reaction defines us as of lesser experience, fewer prior opportunities, and current lower value!
Just, get used to being around big, perfect tits so that they no longer have the power to distract and control
you. (This might be an expensive education, and it might be one that subjected you to a lot of distractions
from the intended lesson, but I think the guy is on to something.)
How do you react? BE NON-REACTIVE. Show no emotional reaction. Do not come across as being
owned. Non-reactivity signals that you are superior to her status and that she has no special power over
you, except such power as you shall graciously grant her. The power of your conversation, and proximity to
your Alpha character. By being non-reactive she cannot control you with her tits, and that means you pass.
Next, be prepared with a standard response. It is delivered in a calm, helpful voice with only a tinge of
embarrassment but the embarrassment is for her awkward situation, which she created due to her social
ineptness. Yeah, thats the FRAME you project: that she is a little off-kilter and you are the guy noticing it and
helping her back to a secure social place. Any of the responses I suggest above would work wonderfully.
And if you cant remember them (which should never be the problem when youre watching a MINI-VIDEO to
TRAIN YOURSELF!) you can always just go like:
Ahhhhh nice try, princess, but that will come soon enough so long as youre a good girl.
Now I think you should buy me a cup of coffee, to celebrate the fact that its official, that youre
really into me
Well, thats it for now. Good luck and good hunting.
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Yes, I know that by the doctrine of just about everyone else except Non-theistic Darwinists that I will burn in some multi-denominational Hell for my apostatic beliefs; but as a matter of rational functionalism, consider giving my advice a go before taking
whatever plunge youre considering.
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Oh, yeah. And STOP PUTTING WOMEN ON A PEDESTAL. Youre more valuable than they and you can have
any of them you want. Did I mention, and never even THINK about getting married ever again?
This took maybe :05 minutes. And it stuck. He absorbed all of it. Over the next 2 years, every time he ran
into me at the shopping center or gas station hed stop and pleasantly chat. He was always discrete and
his questions were always well thought out. He took notes and on a few occasions stopped by my house for
clarification, but in doing so was an exceptional model for discretion. He is one of a handful of guys whom I
know can be trusted to never violate OpSec just because he wants to know something.
Our reacquaintance was ten years ago. Want to hear how things turned out for him? First, he found a new
church but he worships and prays for himself and generally seems to discount anything from the pastors.
This might be due to the fact that his prior experience with his exes was that these men were not to be trusted as a breed, a warped view I happen to share from prior professional experiences. For him now his faith is
a personal experience, not yet another variation on Jim Jones and Jonestown.
Second, he made the obvious decision to never get married again. He believed me when I said he was
higher value than any of the women hed meet, and that despite what his former churches and wives said,
there were HUNDREDS of beautiful women out there for him. In fact, he runs into new women every day.
He has some challenges. He is still 58 years old and his hair is thinning, but his weight is good. As a Master
Welder his skill is in demand and he is likely to remain employed for as long as he can handle his equipment.
But he has a problem with his voice box, which is deteriorating for some unknown etiology, and his ability to
speak is slowly abandoning him. He has perhaps 10% of his voice left, and he sounds like a case of lethally
degenerative laryngitis.
So I saw him at the supermarket last summer and he was buying picnic supplies with his girlfriend, a very
tarty looking 35 year old Ukrainian girl. Slender, blond, no bra and short short shorts. Big smile, half closed
eyes, and, a pleasure to meet any friend of Chads, sir.
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Back to you and me! You and I have spent a lifetime developing and perfecting the body language that says
I am leader. We hit the right note every time. We dont come across as Try Hard or pretentious; were not
begging for others to let us be the leader. We are what we are and thats the natural group leader. It feels to
us and appears to others that we have achieved this as a natural birthright.
When were around others of our profession we tend to overlook this, but to outsiders looking in were never
competing for the attention but look like a gaggle of guys who are all leadership skilled. Heres the point:
YOU NATURALLY LOOK LIKE JOHN TRAVOLTA IN THE GENERALS DAUGHTER!
The major difference is that Travolta is a chameleon who can be the Pulp Fiction thug, and you cannot. If the
movie director paid you a million dollars you might look the part if you stood still, but the instance you moved
you would lose credibility because you have the FIXED NATURAL look of a leader.
So you got THAT going for you, which is HUGE.
Not that you cant improve upon it, by improving your posture, studying yoga or taekwondo, or adjusting
your wardrobebut the basics of your leadership self- confidence are unchangeably hardwired in to your
personality. When you walk into a room, women notice.
The point of this memo was to give you the recognition you deserve so the next time you walk among mere
mortalsanywhere where women congregate to shop, walk, work, or drink coffeeyoull understand what
they see, and that knowledge will lift your game.
[If you didnt FEEL anything after reading this [Appendix] memoREAD IT AGAIN. I want you all to internalize
the value that the world sees you as the natural alpha. Your game may have many deficits, and you may have
just started your journey out of AFCdom towards the Light, but get this straight: you do NOT need help in
learning how to display and DHV yourself as Alpha. NOW GO OUT THERE AND LEARN!]
Good luck and good hunting!
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Heres my chance. I dont even need to think of an opener, the conversation is right in front of me. But I
hesitate. Seriously, what hope do I have? I could be older than this hotties grandpa. Hell, I probably am.
But I keep thinking ... I used to bang chicks like this all the time. Only thing thats changed is the way I look.
The rest? Same old me who always had success. In fact, Im better now because I have so much more
experience.
Think of it this way: the average 18 year old guy has probably been with a few girls. If hes good looking
maybe hes been with more than a few.
But the best-looking 18 year old on earth cant have more experience than a guy whos been getting laid for 4
and a half decades.
So there was no reason for this girl not to want me, and every reason why she should. I turn to her and say,
Your friend is wrong, you know. She looks up. Excuse me?
About your boyfriend. He doesnt want you anymore. And I think deep down you know that, dont you?
I couldnt believe what I was saying. Where did I get the balls to talk like that? I fully expected her to get up
and slap me then and there.
Instead, she just looked at me in silence for a moment and then nodded. Feeling bold, I
went on.
Problem is, they just dont raise em to be men anymore. Notice by implication Im saying that the real men
are the older generation, like me. I see the way these young guys act, theyre worse than girls.
Again, for a second I think Ive gone too far. But she laughs. You got that right! she says.
Then she spends a few minutes gushing about how much shes done for this guy, waiting for him all this time
and the whole bit. Theres no way Im gonna sit here holding this girls hand like her fat friend. I interrupt her.
You know, I hear this a lot from girls. You want him to be upfront with you, but in my experience, most girls
cant handle complete honesty from a guy. They want everything sugar-coated. Are you saying you could
really be open to a man telling you exactly whats on his mind?
Yes! Thats what I want! she says. And then almost like she expects me to have the answer, she asks, So
what do you think it is!?
I scratch my chin, looking thoughtful. Well, youre an attractive girl, so thats not the problem. After
qualifying her I wanted to give her a little value . but only a little. Honestly, in my experience? Its probably the
sex.
She looked confused. What do you mean?
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It was time for another gamble. Im going to be blunt with you, okay? Girls your age are beautiful. And you
know it, dont you?
She smiled and nodded, probably expecting some kind of elaborate compliment from this sweet old man.
Thats the problem. You think your looks are enough to keep your guy satisfied. And so does he ... until he
meets a woman who has more than just looks.
What do you mean? she asked, puzzled again. Weve always had good sex.
She was opening up to me nicely. I decided to keep it up. You met this guy in high school, right?
She nodded.
See? You only think thats good sex because you dont have anything to compare it to. Havent you noticed
a lot of young guys these days are into the whole cougar thing? They might run around with these little cuties
in high school, but then they get to college. They meet an older woman who has been around the block a few
times and really knows how to please a man . and they dont look back.
I was being pretty sneaky: qualifying her and playing up the advantages of an older lover by explaining why
guys do it. It seemed to be working, but then she tried testing me:
Then how come you never see younger girls with older guys?
I was completely unshaken. Oh, you do, from time to time, I said. Rich old guys like Hugh Hefner keep hot
young girls around as trophies. But the truth is, older guys like older women for the same reason younger
guys do . experience always makes you better in bed.
She couldnt believe it. This chick was used to having the edge from her looks, and I could sense her getting
desperate as she realized that they werent enough to keep her boyfriend around ... or even a 65 year old
stranger in a coffee shop. So youre telling me you would turn down a younger woman who was interested in
you? she asked.
That would depend on the girl, I said. Dont get me wrong: some girls your age definitely know their
way around the bedroom. But theyre pretty rare. And those girls make up for lack of experience with other
things.
Like what?
If this went too much further, extraction was going to be a problem, so I decided to do it now. Listen, I said.
Id like to help you, but ... maybe this isnt the best place. Take a walk with me.
She looked around, then giggled; shed actually lost track of where she was and what she was talking about.
Thats got to be a good thing, I figured.
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There was a park across the street so I took her there. As soon as we were relatively alone she asked me, So
what is it these girls have?
I wanted her to spell it out, so I played dumb. Which girls?
It was cute: she looked around and then in a low voice said, These young girls that can keep a man
satisfied.
Well, a sense of adventure, for one.
Right on cue, she answered, Im adventurous!
But I wasnt going to push that one. Thats good, I said. Then youve taken the first step. But the next one
is much harder.
Whats the next step?
Honesty, I said. Which is really just freedom with what you want. What do you mean? she asked.
Well, when was the last time you saw your boyfriend? I asked. She told me it had been almost a year. And
youve been faithful to him all that time?
Of course, she said.
So you havent had sex in an entire year, I said. Thats not easy to live with. Sometimes, you
really want it badly, dont you? She blushed. See? I said. Thats what I mean: freedom means not being
embarrassed about your desires.
We walked in silence for a moment, then in a low voice she said, I do. Do what? I asked.
You know, she said. Want it.
So youre telling me it hasnt been easy being faithful to this guy? I asked, and she shook her head.
Because youd like to be having way more sex, wouldnt you?
She nodded.
It feels good to admit it, doesnt it? I asked. To just let all your desire out and say what you really want.
She laughed a little shyly and said that it did. Then a moment later she added, Its weird but ... this is really
turning me on.
Thats what I mean by being free, I said. You have no idea how good sex can be when youre really free.
She was quiet for a moment, then looked at me and said But I want to.
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Id timed it perfectly, because my flat was just on the other side of the park, and wed reached it. I smiled at
her slyly and said. This is my place. Are you coming up?
She just grinned and didnt say anything, which I decided to take as a yes. Seems I was right, because she
followed me inside.
When it was over she told me that her military boyfriend never fucked her like that. Which probably means the
chump never bothered to turn her on like that. Go figure.
Since then, Ive been working that angle with these much younger girls: taking the wise older guy approach
but then qualifying them a lot and playing up their lack of experience as a disadvantage with all men.
I cant say that Ive had success every time-sometimes the age gap is just too much for them-but so far I have
been getting fairly consistent results with this.
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