June 2016

Holden Torque

The official newsletter of

The 48 to 78 Holden Car Club Hunter Valley Inc.

Established in 1972
Proudly Affiliated with Australian Early Holden Federation
& Australian National Street Machine Association
Meetings 7:00pm 2nd Monday every month at Hexham Bowling Club.
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2015 - 2016 Committee

Presdent:
Vice President:
Treasurer:
Secretary:
Club Registrar:
Events Co-ord:
Merchandise:
Newsletter Editor:

Dave Guy
David Caban
49682843
Kayleen Wiseman
49387501
Cathy Fulmer
David Caban
49682843
Garry Sims
49515824
Alan Wilson
49585315
Dave Fulmer (david.fulmer@orica.com)

0408 680 709

0413 603 783
0412 976 809
0438 509 955
0413 603 783
0403 848 831
0418 585 315
0434 606 467

Club Postal Address: PO BOX 4146 EDGEWORTH NSW 2285

Club Email: president@48to78holden.com
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From The Editor

Hello and welcome to the June 2016 edition of Holden Torque. On the cover is Dave and
Rose Guys Monaro at Steamfest. In this issue is part 2 of Ronnys Restoration Series,
Sweeneys Stuff, For Sale and Wanted and of course another huge events report. You can
also like our new Holden Torque page on Facebook
As always please remember to support our sponsors.
Enjoy your Read
Dave Fulmer

Cessnock City Holden

240-246 Maitland Road Cessnock NSW 2325
Sales: 02 4666 0030 | Service: 02 4666 0031

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General Meeting 9th May 2016

Opened 19.00
Committee Present D Guy, D Caban, C Fulmer, K Wiseman, G Sims, A Wilson, D Fulmer
Apologies As per Attendance Book.
New Faces Rob HZ Tonner, Jason - HQ Coupe, Adam - HQ350 Coupe, Steve HJ Tonner,
Brian HT Premier, Adam HQ 4 door, Steve still searching.
Previous minutes 2nd R Marshall.
Actions Arising- D Fulmer has sent a follow up letter to the Board of Hexham BC about the
$20 room hire fee. No Response as yet. Royce from who visited from Florida thanked
everyone for their hospitality and help. Royce is planning to join the club and become the
first International Member. The change of Registrar has been updated with the RMS.
Treasurers Report 2nd P Ryan.
Registrars Report 2 new regos. 2nd D Fulmer
Events Report As per Newsletter.
Incoming Mail Newsletters, Advertisements, Statement, RMS change of details
Outgoing Newsletters and email to Hexham BC.
Merchandise Looking for another supplier for shirts. CAC shirts are offered at $10.
General Business Gary is trying to plan a charity presentation at Cessnock City Holden. P
Ryan suggests having the presentation at a general meeting. A Lincoln raised concerns
about the committee making decisions and not putting it to the members. He also has
trouble following the Treasurers report. P Donaldson asked whether non club members
could drive cars on club plates. D Caban will investigate and respond.
Break 1935
Resume 1945
Guest Speaker Joel Wakely presented and discussed his book Legends of the 48-215
For Sale FX Sedan 49 build - S McLean.
Raffle G Blanch, D Nolan, Aaron, B Percival, M Grey, K Wiseman, D Guy, G Winter, April
Mostyn, P Donaldson, Jason. Raised $192
Meeting Closed 2100
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Ronnys Restoration Series

Part 2 48 to 78 Club Member Ron Marshall from Ole Skool Metal shares some of his
knowledge for those, less experienced car restorers amongst us.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------CHOOSING THE SMASH SHOP REPAIRER OR THE SPECIALIST RESTORER
Dont ignore the fundamental difference between a short-term crash repair, undertaken
under the protection and supervision of a large insurance company, and a long-term self
funded full restoration. The two tasks are totally different, and require a totally different
mind-set and business relationship.
The restoration of a valuable car carries the same pitfalls and costs as an expensive longterm housing renovation, when it involves a similar spectrum of very different trade skills,
especially where replacement panels and hidden structural parts are no longer available.
Handing over a car for a long-term full restoration, paying the bills without regular
supervision and checks, is just asking for trouble, and then expecting a completed car to
emerge to your satisfaction, is not realistic, no matter how good or careful the restorer is.
Choose between breaking down the tasks yourself and appointing individual experts and
supervising their completion, or handing the car over to a one-stop restoration service.
If you are overseeing individual tasks yourself, visit car shows and club displays of similar
vehicles to yours.
Get a feel for the different levels of workmanship, and ask who did what. Feedback is
remarkably consistent and the problem workshops soon emerge in this process. If a
specialist restorer has their own preferred outside suppliers for different tasks, check each
tradesman out anyway, and ask to see some of their work. If they have done the job
before, it is possible they might be the best for the job, but you may find someone else just
as good, who can do it cheaper, because they operate on a smaller scale or are in need of
the work.
The core of any restoration is the initial bodywork, as the vehicle will have to be dismantled
and stripped of paint to rectify major problems. Poor paint stripping techniques can leave
irreplaceable panels (and parts that should have been removed) permanently damaged.
Fabricating and welding in new panel sections requires considerable skill if the joins are not
going to act as rust traps. The only way to permanently rid a panel of rust, is to replace it,
with new metal, if the new metal is not butt welded into the original panel but is just left to
overlap it, then the overlap can act as a moisture trap and accelerate rust.
Experienced restorers often have a solution to avoid what caused the rust traps in the first
place. Get to know the various techniques and processes, so as you are conversant with the
issues and how your repairer/restorer is intending to address the issue. Ask him how, or
which way he is intending to fix/repair the rust issues (butt welded overlap). Ask him for
photographic proof after he repairs the rust or if he would mind if you came in to see how
he has repaired the rust once the new metal is welded in and before the repaired area is
covered up.
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Most early Australian cars had little or no rust protection, and some had no paint at all in
the areas you couldnt see. The dilemma is whether to add the best of todays rust
protection measures, which would disqualify the car on originality grounds. Most
experienced restorers will have developed solutions to get around these problems, without
destroying the original feel.
Pinholes left in the body finish prior to the final paint, will not disappear with the paint, and
if they do, it will only be temporary. Body crease lines that look straight in matt primer, can
suddenly look very wavy when shiny.
Experienced restorers leave nothing to chance, not even the slightest blemish. They will
even coat certain panels in a shiny finish to check their work, before the final paint.
Who keeps track of each part after it leaves the car for overhaul, and makes sure it is the
same part that returns?
So prepare an inventory of what you intend to supply to the repairer/restorer, and only use
a repairer/restorer who is prepared to sign a detailed list of what you are handing over.
IT is too easy for a workshop to say they never saw a certain part if it is no longer with the
vehicle. So you should have all parts documented and signed for as to being there when
the vehicle arrived at the workshop or any parts that you take in at a later date you
should also have documented and signed for. This detailed and signed list of what parts
were there and what you have brought into the repairer/restorer can save both YOU and
the repairer/restorer from any issues that may arise at a later date regarding any items
that may thought to be broken damaged or missing.
Before finalising each repairer, map out the stages of each task, and who does what, at
what point. Seek several expert opinions on exactly what is needed to complete each task.
Do not just appoint repairers solely on price. If a task seems too cheap, it probably is
and you will only be asking for disappointment.
Dont just rely on recommendations based on restorations just completed within the last
two years. It is usually after this point, that short cuts of faulty work start showing through
the paint, or the plating.
Is the repairer/restorer passionate about what they are doing? Will they make the extra
phone call, or go through the archives to get it right? Or more importantly, take the time
to tell you they have hit a crossroad?
Its like looking for a good employee. You are not necessarily looking for formal
qualifications, but the people who have the experience, the expertise, the networks and
the common sense to come up with a solution, and give you the restoration job that you
are paying for, and the finish you are expecting.
Continued next month
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All the forms and paperwork needed for your Conditional Registration RTA and club are
available on the clubs website under forms http://www.48to78holden.com/FORMS.html.

HISTORIC VEHICLE MOVEMENT AUTHORISATION

I__________________________________of______________________________________
Have gained approval under the Historic Vehicle Registration scheme to move my vehicle,
Make________________ Model___________Year__________Rego No_________________
From________________________________________________________On___/___/2016
To_____________________________________________________Returning___/___/2016
Signed_______________________
MOVEMENT No________________
This authority is issued with conditions, as outlined in the clubs Constitution for user of
vehicles operating under Historic vehicle Registration.
AUTHORISING REGISTRAR:

David Caban Ph.49682843 or Mobile 0413 603 783

clubregistrar@48to78holden.com
Or ring the club phone
0437 993 251
NOTE
The vehicles Certificate of Approved Operations must be kept in the vehicle at all times.

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Sweeneys Stuff

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For Sale ##HK front cross member, outrigger broken, suit hotrod, $200, HKTG towbar,
preloved $30, HKTG fuel tank, slight dent fair condition $100 neg. Gary Sims
#53 Chev 4 door RHD original motor 98% rust free $3000 ONO Ph Mark 0401207452 #HR
premier bucket seats $100.00 phone 0418676014
#48-EK Crash Box C Sweeney $50 #Harry - 49907415 FE FC parts. #186 holden motor: STD
block, S/S valves ported, standard cam, was run with dual fuel, heavy duty pressure plate,
Toyota dyna clutch plate ph: Ken 49555689 # WB parts P. McFadden #HXHZ ute + parts
$3500 See D Guy # I have a HQ power steering box and complete kit for sale $ 500, I also
have a 186 engine with 3 speed manual gear box in good running condition to suit HG
Holden $400 contact Adam on 0423027471 # Genuine wiring harness smoke see the
editor

Wanted # HQ Sedan Graham from Extreme Blasting # Early 2 barrel stromberg carby Dave Caban #138 Heater Tap - Cathy Fulmer # FC glovebox insert P. Ryan #fc, fb Steering
Colum Ring John 49 471366 # LH blinker assembly for HJ Peter #Rear brake shoes for a
HR ute Troy. #Looking for someone to tune triple 45mm sidedraught webbers on my LJ
GTR torana Regards Ian Smith. #HR Wiper Switch G Sims # 5speed steel case celica
gearbox Ph0417442928 Regards Rudy # HG Sedan Doors, Sunvisor, Bumper Ph Mark
0401207452 # I am after 1 HG bonnet in good condition or HK, HT, also after a sun visor
to suit please contact Adam on 0423027471

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Runs Report June 2016

Since last newsletter

Tilligery Motorama, 15/5/16.
We had a great turnout and saw some newer members come along with their gorgeous
cars. The weather was perfect this year and I believe they had over 400 cars on show.
Once again a top day thanks to the Tilligery crew.

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Singleton High Autofest, 21/5/16

A few of us decided to go for a run to Singo High school and had a good day and Bella Clark
took home a trophy for her HQ and Billy Ray got one for his Ford ute (nobodys perfect),
there were about 200 cars, live music, dance performances and markets.

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Upcoming events.
Sunday 29th May, New members day, has been changed to a cruise around the lake as Lost
in the 50s already has 6 car clubs attending this month. Meet at Maccas Edgeworth for
9.30 departure then cruise to Blackalls Park for morning tea and then to Cams Warf for BBQ
lunch. If your classic isnt on the road bring your modern car and get to know everyone.
BYO morning tea and drinks. Numbers are needed for the club to cater lunch.
Saturday 18th June, Bonfire night. At the Fulmers place Swan Bay. BYO singing voice,
nibbles and drinks, BBQ dinner provided, (Numbers needed).
Sunday 26th June, Lost in the 50s. Yes we are really going this time, we are booked in!
7th August 2016 All Holden Day Richmond NSW.
I thought we should try to be a little different this year so I am inviting all Hunter Valley
Holden clubs and any Holden owners to join forces and have one giant Hunter Valley stand
and have all our displays together and promote the Hunter.
We will also ask HV tourism to come along and have a stand or provide us with brochures
to have on our stand. More on this at the next meeting.
Events Calendar As per the club constitution, Historic registration, part 2, A, 1, any events listed in the events
calendar may be attended by vehicles with historic registration without requiring a movement number or log book
entry. (Provided you are a fully financial member of the club. A copy of the current newsletter must be carried as proof
of an authorized event).
Events in Bold Italic underlined are preferred club runs. Catered events will specify Catered Event and numbers
are needed in advance.
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This year's All Holden Display Day is Sunday 7th August 2016.
We are now taking online entries.
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48 to 78 Holden Car Club Hunter Valley Inc. Events (Updated 25/03/2016)

DATE
EVENT
LOCATION
DETAILS
Every
Tune up run
Newcastle
Club run Meet 7pm
Friday
foreshore
Get the cobwebs out
May
Sat
Paterson
Court House
From 4pm
28th
Park up
Hotel
Sun
Taree weekend
See flyer
29th
On wheels
Sun
New members Lost in the 50s
Club run Meet Maccas Edgeworth
29th
day
Then BBQ lunch
Depart 8.30am
Sun
Bull n bush
Medowie
See flyer
29th
Show n shine
June
Sat
Bakers cottage Chelmsford Dr.
Meet and greet
4th
Park up
Metford
From 5pm.
Mon
General
Hexham
7pm
13th
meeting
Bowling Club
start
Sat
Bonfire night
Fulmers place
Meet Maccas Raymond Tce 4.00 pm
18th
Swan Bay
departure. Catering Numbers needed
Sun
Gosford Swap
Gosford
Gates open 6am
19th
Meet
Showground
Sat
Paterson
Court House
From 4pm
25th
Park up
Hotel
Sun
Lost in the 50s Club run
Meet 9am Maccas
26th
Open day
Edgeworth
July
Sat
Bakers cottage Chelmsford Dr.
Meet and greet
2nd
Park up
Metford
From 5pm.
Sat
Stroud Show n Stroud
Meet 12 mile rest area(north of Raymond
9th
shine
showground
Tce)For 9am departure.
Mon
General
Hexham
7pm
11th
meeting
Bowling Club
start
Sat
Gloucester
Gloucester
More info when available
23rd
Chill out festival
Sat
Paterson
Court House
From 4pm
23rd
Park up
Hotel
Sun
Lost in the 50s Cameron park
24th
Open day
August
7th
All Holden Day Richmond NSW
TBA

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