NewSAPHCMFunctionalityHRRenewal1.0|SCN
GettingStarted Newsletters
Hi,olivier
LogOut
0points
Store
SearchtheCommunity
Products
Services&Support
AboutSCN
Downloads
Industries
Training&Education
Partnership
DeveloperCenter
Activity
LinesofBusiness
UniversityAlliances
Events&Webinars
Innovation
Browse
Communications
Actions
Create
SAPERPHumanCapitalManagement(SAPERPHCM)
NewSAPHCMFunctionalityHRRenewal1.0
PostedbyJarretPazahanickinSAPERPHumanCapitalManagement(SAPERPHCM)onJun1,2012
4:14:33PM
Share
175
10
Tweet
Like
54
SAPisplanningtoreleasesomeexcitingnewHCMfunctionalitywhichtheyhavecalledHRRenewal1.0
thatencompassesseveralsolutionsincludingLearning,EmployeeandManagerSelfService,Personnel
Administration(PA),OrganizationManagement(OM)andHCMProcessesandForms(P&F).Thisarticlewill
doadeeperdiveintothePA/OM/P&FpartsofHRRenewal1.0whichinitiallywillbedeliveredfortheUnited
States,Brazil,IndiaandChina.IhavebeenfortuneenoughtoworkwithSAPinacoinnovationcapacityon
thisoverthepast11monthsandifyouareunfamiliarwiththeprogramIwouldrecommendreading SAP's
GoldenOpportunitytouseCoInnovationtoMakebetterSoftware
Foryearscustomershavecomplainedabouttheuserexperience(UX)oftheSAPHCMofferinganditisgreat
toseeSAPfinallymakeasizableinvestmenttoofferthemamoreuserfriendly,harmonizedandintuitive
experience.CheckoutthisvideorecentlyreleasedcalledSAP'sDelightfulNewHCMUserExperiencetoget
anoverallsenseofthechangeswithSAPHCMwiththeHRRenewalbeinghighlightedatthe58second
mark.
TheSAPteamworkedwithmorethan15customersandthoughtleaderstodeliverthisfaceliftandmake
fundamentalimprovementstothePersonnelAdministration(PA)andOrganizationalManagement(OM)
modules.ThisincludesanewcommonlandingpagebasedonHTML5whereuserscanconfigureswim
laneswithrelevantitemssuchasOrganization,Employees,Inbox,Analyticsetc,Quickaccessandsimple
maintenanceofemployeedata,IntegrationwithStreamWorkforsocialnetworkingandcollaboration,andan
additionalinterfaceforHCMprocessesandformsbasedonWebDynproABAPwhichwillofferareduced
costandsimplertechnicalinfrastructure.Enclosedaresomescreenshotstogiveyouasenseofthenew
offering.
LabpreviewscreenshotofthenewLandingPage
LabPreviewScreenShotofPositionMaintenance
http://scn.sap.com/community/erp/hcm/blog/2012/06/01/newsaphcmfunctionalityhrrenewal10
1/17
25/07/2016
NewSAPHCMFunctionalityHRRenewal1.0|SCN
LabPreviewofHCMProcessesandFormsforWebDynproABAP
ForthetechnicalfolksthiswillbedeliveredasanInadvanceshipmenttowhatisassumedwillbeEHP7
andwillrequireEnhancementPackage6(EHP6)asaprerequisite.AnInadvanceshipmentisactuallya
SupportPackagemodeledasanewtypeofAddon.TheUIwillrunontheNetWeaverBusinessClient
(NWBC)ortheNetWeaverEnterprisePortalandthelandingpageisbasedonSAPUI5.Itwillalsobethe
firstSAPHCMproducttoofferoptionalSAPStreamWorkintegrationwhichisgreattoseefromasocialand
collaborationperspectiveaswell.ThesingleinfotypemaintenanceisbasedonWDABAPandhasalookand
feelsimilartothelatestManagerandEmployeeSelfServiceutilizingthenewSAP_CORBUtheme.Itis
interestingtonotethatSAP_CORBUderivesitsnamefromLeCorbusieraModernSwissarchitectand
designer.
Thecurrentplanisforthistobeavailablein3wavesin2012withWave1plannedforRampUpcustomers
midJuneandGeneralAvailability(GA)ofWaves1&2plannedforSeptemberwithWave3istentatively
plannedforGAinNovember.SAPreferstoWave1asanInadvanceshipmenttheyintendtocallHR
Renewal1.0withtheother2wavesin2012beingFeaturePackagesforHRRenewal.Wave1willintroduce
thenewUIforHCMProcessesandForms,basedonWDABAPasanoptiontothecurrentUIbasedon
AdobeWave2isthemaindeliverywherethenewlandingpageandwebbasedinfotypemaintenanceis
plannedWave3willfocusonroundingouttheWDABAPUIandcontentforHCMProcessesandForms.
SAPhasplanstocontinueenhancingthissolutioninto2013addingadditionalfeatures,infotypesand
countries.
HavingbeenonthegroundatmultiplelargeFortune500companiesoverthepast14yearsthereisnodoubt
thattheHRRenewal1.0isgoingtobewellreceivedinthemarketplaceThebestpartisallthisnew
functionalitywillbedeliveredatnoadditionalchargeasitisincludedinthebaseuserlicense.SAPstarted
thisworkeffortpriortobuyingSuccessFactorsbutitshowstheyarestillinnovatingandprovidingnew
functionalityaroundcoreHCMwhichisgreattoseeandsomewouldsaylongoverdue.Muchofthis
functionalitywasrecentlydemonstratedlive,atASUG2012/SAPPHIRENOWbyProductOwnerChristian
Hochwarth,andImentioneditinmyASUGInterviewSAPUndertheMicroscope:HCMandSuccessFactors
http://scn.sap.com/community/erp/hcm/blog/2012/06/01/newsaphcmfunctionalityhrrenewal10
2/17
25/07/2016
NewSAPHCMFunctionalityHRRenewal1.0|SCN
startingatthe6:30minutemark.BigthankstoRobertMoellerwhoistheSolutionOwnerofCoreHR,David
Ludlow,GroupVicePresident,LineofBusinessSolutionsandeveryoneworkinghardtobringthis
functionalitytomarket.
YoucanfollowmeonTwitteratSAP_Jarret
Update:Hereismyfollowupblogonthistopic
recentpodcastItapedontheHRRenewal.
SAPNewHRRenewalFunctionalityandRoadmapanda
Categories:CoreProcessesandForms
75149Views
Products:sap_erp_human_capital_managementEvents:sapphire_nowTags:scn,sap,sapmentors,sapmentor,hcm,
human_capital_management,sap_business_suite,nwbc,ehp6,hcm_processes_and_forms,ehp7
AverageUserRating
MyRating:
(19ratings)
Share
175
10
Tweet
Like
54
88Comments
MattHardingJun1,20125:47AM
ThanksforthegreatblogJarret.DefinitelysomethingI'mkeentowatchtheprogressofbasedon
whatyou'retellingus.
IntermsofNWBC(yesnottherealtopicofyourconversation,butconnected),Ibelievetheyare
lockingthereleaseofNWBC4.0withHRRenewalsbutwasthereanydiscussionongettingthisout
soonersinceitaloneprovidessucharadicalimprovement(andalternativeapproach)tothecurrent
NWBC?
Also,isthatanOEM'edNakisainthemiddleofthosescreenshots(oralternatively,wheredoes
Nakisafitintothispicture)?
Cheers,
Matt
Like(0)
JarretPazahanickJun1,20123:43PM(inresponsetoMattHarding)
ThanksMattofthecommentandkindwordsandunfortunatelyIdonthaveanyvisabilityon
theNWBCquestionalthoughmaybesomeonefromSAPcanjumpinwithsomeclarity.
AsfarthesecondquestionitisthefreeMSSOrgChartvisualizationthatcamewithEHP5.
HereisanSCNarticleontheoffering.
http://scn.sap.com/community/erp/hcm/blog/2012/04/24/mssembeddedorgchart
visualizationfreeehp5withmssaddon
Iwillleaveitto LukeMarsontoansweranydetailedNakisastuffsincethatareaishis
baby:)
Like(0)
LukeMarsonJun1,20126:14PM(inresponsetoMattHarding)
HiMatt,
ThatisindeedtheEhP5MSSOrgChartbyNakisa.Nakisa'spositionwillnotchangewithin
therenewaloranyfuturerenewals,sinceNakisaareakaeypartofSAP'sOM/PAandTalent
Managementroadmapsforonpremise.
Bestregards,
Luke
Like(1)
MattHardingJun3,20121:26AM(inresponsetoLukeMarson)
ThanksLukeandJarret.Willbeinterestingtoseewhenthissolutionismade
availableforAustraliaasyourstatementscouldimplythatGAisonlyforthose
countriesyoulisted(butI'massumingthat'sforrampupand/orwave1or
somethingsimilar).
Cheers,
Matt
Like(0)
GeorgeCredlandJun1,20127:36AM
Thanksforthepreview.It'salwaysgoodtobeabletoseewhatanapplicationwilllooklike.
TherealdilemmaIseeasacustomerishowthiswillsitrelativetothepreviousEHP5offering.We're
currentlymigratingourEHP4JavabasedESS/MSStotheEHP5ABAPWebDynproESSandMSS
http://scn.sap.com/community/erp/hcm/blog/2012/06/01/newsaphcmfunctionalityhrrenewal10
3/17
25/07/2016
NewSAPHCMFunctionalityHRRenewal1.0|SCN
(EHP5addon).
Istherecontinuityorwillitbeanothergrounduprebuildforallthepages?Inotethepreviewtalks
aboutanHTML5frontpage,butABAPWebDynproforthedatamanipulation.Thereforetheuser
experiencewillstillfaceallthesamebrowsercompatibilityissuesunlessSAPcanimproveABAP
WebDynprosupport.
Ontheupside,withEHP5ESS/MSSIseehugeimprovementsoverthepreviousreleases.Tidying
pagelayoutsviacustomisationbeingaprimeexampletosimplifytheuserexperienceandimprove
terminology.Evenaddinsupportinginformation,policydocumentsetc.viacustoming"Add
decorativeelement"toagroupwithoutneedingtomakeanycodechanges.
FromasupportstandpointIhopeSAPwilldropFlashIslandsfromthestandardofferinginfavourof
eitherUI5orABAPWebDynpro.DisappointingtoseethismakinganappearanceinthefrontHome
pageoftheEHP5ABAPMSSrolejustastherestoftheITcommunitymovesawayfromFlash.
Like(3)
JarretPazahanickJun1,20123:46PM(inresponsetoGeorgeCredland)
ThanksforthecommentGeorgeandyoubringupsomegreatpoints.IknowtheSAPteam
isawareofsomeofthesechallengesandthingsarechangingprettyfastbutIam
recommendingclientsgetuptoEHP6andlooktoadoptthisnewfunctionalityasthereare
realbenefitsinareasofPA/OMthathavebeenbigpainpointsinthepast.
Like(0)
HarinathSadhuJun1,20123:14PM
GoodtohearthisnewsinHCMeraespeciallyforHCMP&FwithWDABAPtechnology.Fromcost
andclientbenefitspointofview,whenthisisavailableatbasecostasmenionedbyyou..thiswill
defenetelyreachtoallexistingcustomerswidely.But,Idohavesimilarqueriesasmentionedby
Georgeandwouldreachyouinyournextblogs.
ThanksJarretforyourwonderfulsharing...
Like(0)
JarretPazahanickJun1,20123:39PM(inresponsetoHarinathSadhu)
ThanksforthekindwordsandcommentHarinath.Herearethedetailsonthe"expected"
delivery
Thecurrentplanisforthistobeavailablein3wavesin2012withWave1plannedfor
RampUpcustomersmidJuneandGeneralAvailability(GA)ofWaves1&2planned
forSeptemberwithWave3istentativelyplannedforGAinNovember.SAPrefersto
Wave1asanInadvanceshipmenttheyintendtocallHRRenewal1.0withthe
other2wavesin2012beingFeaturePackagesforHRRenewal.Wave1will
introducethenewUIforHCMProcessesandForms,basedonWDABAPasan
optiontothecurrentUIbasedonAdobeWave2isthemaindeliverywherethenew
landingpageandwebbasedinfotypemaintenanceisplannedWave3willfocuson
roundingouttheWDABAPUIandcontentforHCMProcessesandForms.SAPhas
planstocontinueenhancingthissolutioninto2013addingadditionalfeatures,
infotypesandcountries.
Like(0)
SteveBognerJun1,20123:50PM
GoodtoseethiscomingoutnowgettingtoEhP6andaddingonthoseotherearlyreleasepackages
willbeachallengeforsomeclientsbutthisisanincentivetodoso.I'mcurioustoseewhattheuptake
willbechangingtheuserexperienceinanSAPHCMshopisnosmalltaskmorethanjustapplying
thepacks.Imagineifsomethinglikethishadbeenavailable10yearsago!?
Like(2)
JarretPazahanickJun1,20124:26PM(inresponsetoSteveBogner)
GreatcommentSteveandhopefullythisprovidesenoughincentiveforcustomerstomoveto
EHP6especiallygivenitwillallowthemtouseallthechangesSAPhasdeliveredinthe
past4years(EHP15)asanaddedbonus.
YouruserexperiencepointisspotonandthatisthechallengethatSAPalwayshaswhen
theyinnovateistryingnottodisruptcustomerswhereinsomecasesdisruptingcustomeris
therightanswer.FromwhatIhaveseenfromatechnicalsystemstandpointthedisruption
willbeextremelyminimalbuttherewillbetrainingandchangemanagementthatcomes
withanewuserexperiencethoughwithwhatIhaveseenthebenefitsofthisofferfar
outweightheeffortneededaroundthose.
Like(0)
LukeMarsonJun1,20126:18PM
HiJarret,
AgreatsummaryandthisissomethingIwaslookingtodo,butyou'rebetterconnectedthanme .
HavingbeenintheSAPHCMRoadmapsessionatSAPPHIREIwaspleasantlysurprisedathow
SAPplantocontinuewithrenovatingtheonpremisesolution.However,SAPweren'tspecificabout
howmuchlongertheywillcontinuethistypeofrenovation,buttheearlysignsareencouraging.
Bestregards,
Luke
Like(0)
http://scn.sap.com/community/erp/hcm/blog/2012/06/01/newsaphcmfunctionalityhrrenewal10
4/17
25/07/2016
NewSAPHCMFunctionalityHRRenewal1.0|SCN
JarretPazahanickJun2,20123:14PM(inresponsetoLukeMarson)
ThanksforthecommentandkindwordsasIfiguredafterallthegreatblogsyouhavedone
sinceSapphireitwastimeformetocontribute:)
ItisimportanttonotethatSAPstartedallthesechangeswellbeforetheacquisitionof
SuccessFactorsandareseeingthemthroughtocompletion.Theinterestingthingtobe
watchingistheinvestmentinCoreHCMafter2013togetatruepictureofwhatcustomers
canexpectgoforwardasitisprettyobviousthatEmployeeCentralandBizXaregoingto
getalargeportionoftheinvestmentdollars.
Like(0)
VinayNaithaniJun2,201212:11AM
HIJarret,
Thanksforyetanotherinterestingarticle.Ihaveafewquestionsthough.
1.ItseemsthatonlyWave1willgoforrampupwhilstWave2andWave3willbedirectlyavailable
forGA.Anyspecificreasonforthisorisitjustmymisunderstanding.AlsomakingWave1and2
availableatthesametimedoesnotmakesensetome.Isthisjustatacticalmove?
2.You'vesaidthattheRenewalpackwillinitiallybeavailableforUS,China,IndiaandBrazil.Someof
theprocessmentionedaroundHCMforms,PAandOMseemprettycountryindependenttherefore
whywilltheavailabilitybelimited?
3.WillthenewenhancementsforHRadminbeavailableunderanexistingBusinesspackage?
4.Howeasywillitbeforcustomerson<EHP6tomaketheleapandadoptthesechangesdirectly?
MypersonalviewisthatbythetimemostcustomersgetreadytoimplementthesechangesSAPwill
havealreadyreleasedWave3orhigher.Theadoptionwillbeeasierfornewprojectsorthosein
designphase.
HavingsaidthatImustadmitthattheinvestmentSAPismakinginimprovingtheUXisimpressive
andgivespeoplelikemesomethingtotalkabouttoourcustomers.HopefullytheadoptionofHCM
formswillbemuchwiderandbetter.IampersonallyafanofWebDynproABAPandveryexcited
aboutthesechanges.
Thanksagain
Vinay
Like(0)
JarretPazahanickJun4,20124:08PM(inresponsetoVinayNaithani)
ThanksforthecommentVinayandIfullyagreeonthemajorimprovementsontheUXas
wellasthereshouldbeincreasedadoptionofHCMFormsgiventhenewoption.Asfaras
yourquestions.
1.ItalkedwithSAPanditisthedifferencebetweentheinadvanced/addonmechanism
andafeaturepack.SAPisalsolookingintodoingsomespecialforthefeaturepacks.
2.SAPpickedtheirlargestandbiggestgrowthmarketswhichisthereasonUS,China,India
andBrazilwereinitiallyselected.Overtimemorewillbeadded.
3.SAPdoesn'tplantodeliveratraditionalBusinessPackagebutonlyaPFCGroleanda
descriptionhowtocreateacustomBP.
4.IthinkgettingtoprereqEHP6willbeachallengeforsomecustomersasIhaveseenthat
inthepastbutitissomethingtheyshoulddefinitelyconsider.
Mypersonalviewisthatbythetimemostcustomersgetreadytoimplementthesechanges
SAPwillhavealreadyreleasedWave3orhigher.Theadoptionwillbeeasierfornew
projectsorthoseindesignphase.
Like(1)
VinayNaithaniJun6,20127:10PM(inresponsetoJarretPazahanick)
ThanksJarretformakingtheeffortandansweringmyquestions.Seesomehealthy
discussionandcommentshere.
Regards,
Vinay
Like(0)
ChrisPaineJun13,201212:35AM(inresponsetoJarretPazahanick)
HiJarret,Ithinktheremaybeaconfusedmessageaboutcountrybycountry
availability.I'mworkingwithaclientinAustraliawhoispartiftherampupprogram
fortherenewals.Yes,countrybycountryspecificinfotypeswilltakesometimeto
converttodecoupledinfotypelogicfortheWDAinfotypescreens,ifnotalready
there.AndassuchIwonderhowmanyyearswemighthavetowaitforHRPS
solutions.HoweverIdon'texpectthatcustomerswillberestrictedfrom
implementingthenoncountryspecificcomponents.
Matt,Iwouldseethissolutionasaclearpossibilityforyourcustomer,Evenifthey
areinAustraliaandperhapswdascreensfortaxandsupermaybesometimein
coming.
Like(0)
JarretPazahanickJun13,20121:04AM(inresponsetoChrisPaine)
ThatiscorrectChristhatnothingwillrestrictcustomersfrom
implementingthenoncountryspecificcomponentsthatIknowof
butitcouldbeawhile(ifever)beforesomecountriesgetacountry
http://scn.sap.com/community/erp/hcm/blog/2012/06/01/newsaphcmfunctionalityhrrenewal10
5/17
25/07/2016
NewSAPHCMFunctionalityHRRenewal1.0|SCN
version.
Onasidenotewithalltheeffort(200developersfromWaldorf)
recentlymovingtotheSuccessFactorsEmployeeCentralteamand
theoverallplannedinvestmentinthatproductwhichatthecore
coverswhatmostofusthinkofPA/OMitwillbeinterestingtosee
thepaceofnewinnovationafterthe3wavesoffunctionalityis
released.
Like(1)
ChrisPaineJun13,20122:36PM(inresponsetoJarretPazahanick)
ThanksfortheclarificationJarret.
IjustsawatweetouttherewhichIthinkwasabitmisleading
pointingbacktothisblog
(edit)>picremovednoneedtoname/shame
SoIthoughtitbesttoclearthatupbeforeanycustomersstarted
panicking.
Onedoeshopethattheycontinuetoresourcetheserenovations
suchthatallcountriesandpayrollversions(i.e.HRPS)are
supportedinnewWDAinfotypeinterfacethough.Itwouldbe
greattofinallygetridofallthatlegacyinfotypecode.
Like(0)
SANGHAMITRAKARTHIKJun4,20124:55AM
HiJarret,
Greatarticleasalways!ItsgoodtoseefinallySAPisinvestingtoimprovetheUIwheretheyhave
beenlackingalltheseyears.AtleastIknowtwoofmyclientswhomovedfromSAPtoanotherHCM
applicationonlybecausetheircoreHCMrteamfeltSAP'sUIisnotatalluserfriendly.IsNWBC,
NakisaandPortalaprerequisitetoimplementHRRenewal1.0?
Cheers
Sanghamitra
Like(0)
JarretPazahanickJun4,20123:53PM(inresponsetoSANGHAMITRAKARTHIK)
ThanksforthecommentandkindwordsSanghamitra.OneofthereasonsthatSAPstarted
theHCMRenewal(wascalledCoreRenovation)initiativewasdotocompetitivepressures
andtoimproveoverallusability.
AsfarasyourquestionitisbasedonNWBCandtheNakisaisthefreeMSSAdOn.
Like(0)
MALYADRIJWALAGJun30,201310:37AM(inresponsetoSANGHAMITRAKARTHIK)
HiSangamitra,
caniknowdidudeploynakisaorgchartinursystemiwanttogetemployeewisedetialsin
theMSSwhenmanageropenshisidonessmss....wehavereportingstructurealso...team
calendar,atendenceoverviewiscomingbutorgchratwithphotosisnotcoming...canutell
mehowtogetthat....ithinkumightbewrkedinthisarea....Asiamwrkingportal7.03
versionessmss....needsomeinfoonthis.....
Regards,
Jwala,
ESSMSS.
Like(0)
AkshayPatkiJun4,20123:08PM
HiJarret,
Itiswonderfultoseethelatestdevelopmentsintermsofuserexperienceanddashboard/analytics.
Thankyouforsharingthis.
Regards,
AkshayPatki
Like(0)
JarretPazahanickJun4,20123:50PM(inresponsetoAkshayPatki)
ThanksAkshayasIbelievelotsofSAPHCMcustomerswilladoptthisfunctionalityoverthe
next3years.
Like(1)
RajaKishoreJogamJun6,20125:48AM
Speedofinnovationhasbeengreatlylacking.Ihavehadafirstlookatthesescreenshotsmorethan
6monthsbackinHCMpartnersummit.Whileiknowthatagreatdealofeffortgoesintobuilding,
testing,makingthemdeploymentreadybutstillthetimeframeformakingthemavalibleforcustomers
isstillanareaofimprovement.IfSAPclaimstobelikeApple,theyshouldimprovetheirspeedof
delivery,otherwisethecleintsarestillnotgoingtohappysincealotofcloudsolutiomnsmightbe
offeringmoreUXandfunctionalyenhancementsfortheirsolutions.
http://scn.sap.com/community/erp/hcm/blog/2012/06/01/newsaphcmfunctionalityhrrenewal10
6/17
25/07/2016
NewSAPHCMFunctionalityHRRenewal1.0|SCN
thanks
RajJogam
Like(0)
JarretPazahanickJun7,20124:04AM(inresponsetoRajaKishoreJogam)
ThanksforthecommentRajandhardtodisagreeasspeedtodelivernewfunctionalityfor
SAPHCMcustomershasbeenlackingformanyyears.ItisoneareawhereSuccessFactors
seemstobedoingthingsverywellastheyhave4releasesayearandfromwhatIhave
seenthisweekatSuccessConnectasolidamountofnewfunctionalityineach.
Like(0)
AmeenSyedJun6,20128:07AM
HiJaret,
Yourpostisreallyhelpful&itsgootoseesuchkindofnewdevelopmentsthatarebeingplacedin
SAPHCM.
ThanksAgain,suchinformationgiveuslotofenergy.
Regards
AmeenSyed
Like(0)
JarretPazahanickJun7,20124:04AM(inresponsetoAmeenSyed)
ThanksMoosaforthecommentandkindwordsasitismuchappreciated.
Like(0)
SureshDattiJun7,20128:39PM
FromwhatIunderstand,the'webbasedinfotypemaintenance'duetobereleasesdinWave2,
requiresNWBC.Correct?
Thanksforthepreview.
~Suresh
Like(0)
JarretPazahanickJun8,20126:07PM(inresponsetoSureshDatti)
ThanksforthecommentSureshandthatiscorrect.
Like(0)
NadirSheikhJun12,20122:53PM(inresponsetoJarretPazahanick)
DearJarret
WeareworkingonECC6
WeareusingSAPHCM(India)for2,50,000/employees,ifmanagementagreeto
useHRRenewal1.0functionalitythen
Whatisthecost?
Thanks
Nadir
Like(0)
JarretPazahanickJun12,20125:26PM(inresponsetoNadirSheikh)
ThereisNOcostforthenewHRRenewal1.0functionalityasitisinclude
incustomersbaseuserlicense.
Like(0)
JarretPazahanickJul5,20123:12PM(inresponsetoSureshDatti)
HiSuresh
JustaupdateasIheardfromtheSAPProductteamlastnightthatthefirstshipmentofthe
HRRenewalplannedforGAinSeptemberwillalsorunontheNWPortalwhichisgood
news.
Hopealliswell.
Jarret
Like(0)
SureshDattiJul5,20123:46PM(inresponsetoJarretPazahanick)
thanks..andfromwhatIheard,thePortalhastobeNW7.3Ehp1?correct?
Like(0)
ChrisPaineJul5,20124:08PM(inresponsetoSureshDatti)
I'dbemoresurprisedifithadn'tworkedintheportalorhadanyspecial
requirements,afterallitisjustexposingapplicationsthataresourced
completelyfromtheABAPECCstack.Youshouldbeabletorunit
anywhere.
http://scn.sap.com/community/erp/hcm/blog/2012/06/01/newsaphcmfunctionalityhrrenewal10
7/17
25/07/2016
NewSAPHCMFunctionalityHRRenewal1.0|SCN
Ifthereisarequirementtouseaparticularportalstacklevel,I'dbevery
interestedinunderstandingthetechnicalneed,asmyunderstandingwas
thatportalandESS/MSSarenowfullydecoupled.
Cheers!
Like(0)
SureshDattiJul5,20124:20PM(inresponsetoChrisPaine)
Iguessithastowiththeallnew'Corbu'theme..youmightneed
eitherNWBCorNW7.3Ehp1Portal
Like(0)
ChrisPaineJul6,20121:21AM(inresponsetoSureshDatti)
Itmightbethatyou'llneeda7.03or7.31portaltopass
portaltheming/stylesheetchangesontotheCorbu
styledWDAcomponentsbutastheseWDA
componentscanrunstandalonewithoutaportalor
NWBCitwouldbe_extremely_surprisingifeitherwas
"required".
AsfarasIknow,It'squitepossibletostoptheportal
applyingitsstylesheetontopofyourWDAapplication
ifyoulike.SohavingaCorbuthemedWDAinsidea
noncorbuportalseemspossible(butugly).
PortaldoeslittleapartfromprovideSSOtoESS/MSS
appsthesedays(atinybitofOBNifyou'reintothat
stuff,butreallynotalotelse.)
Like(0)
JarretPazahanickJul16,20127:00PM(in
responsetoChrisPaine)
HeyChris/Suresh
HeardbackfromSAPandPortalIntegration
andNavigationwith7.30and7.31butCorbu
Designonlyavailablewith7.31.
Hopethishelps.
Jarret
Like(0)
ChrisPaineJul17,20121:06AM(in
responsetoJarretPazahanick)
Soistherenotgoingtobea7.03
portal?Willcustomershaveto
upgradetousehrrenewal?Haveto
saythiswouldmakesensewith
whatI'mseeingegnotesaboutnew
LSOfrontendbeingavailableon
7.31butnothingelse.I'mgetting
prettyconfusedhere!Willspenda
littletimeresearchingtoday!
AgainIwouldbeextremely
surprisedifWDAcouldnotsupport
theCorbinstylingdirectoutofthe
box,withoutneedingaportaltoplay
with.
Like(0)
ChrisPaineJul18,20125:36
AM(inresponsetoChris
Paine)
OkIchecked,7.31isthe
directpathforEhP6there
isnosuchthinga7.03
(gladIunderstandthat
now!)ApplyingEhP6to
yourNW7.02systemwill
convertittoa7.31system.
However,thereisnothing
tosaythatyou_need_a
7.31portaltousethe
content.AsHRRenewal
1.0doesn'tevencontain
anyportalcontent,Ican't
seewhyyou'dneedit.it
mightbethatthereare
someissueswithportal
eventingin7.02thatare
fixedin7.30andseems
likelythatportal
stylesheetsforCorbuare
http://scn.sap.com/community/erp/hcm/blog/2012/06/01/newsaphcmfunctionalityhrrenewal10
8/17
25/07/2016
NewSAPHCMFunctionalityHRRenewal1.0|SCN
notavailableuntil7.31
Like(0)
ChrisScottJul5,20126:03PM
HiJarret,
WouldyousaythatthisisaimedatHRprofessionalsorcouldberolledouttoemployeesand
managers?
Thanks,
Chris
Like(0)
JarretPazahanickJul5,20129:45PM(inresponsetoChrisScott)
ThisspecificfunctionalitythatIhaveoutlinedaboveisaimedatHRProfessionalbuttheHR
RenewalingeneralalsohassomeupdatesforESS/MSSwhichareaimedtowards
EmployeesandManagers.Enclosedissomegoodinformationonwhatiscominginthat
areaundertheHRRenewalaswellasthereisseveralnewthingsinEHP6
NewVisualIdentityCorbuThemeforESS/MSS
ExcitingEnhacementstoESSPersonalInformationProfileinEnhancementpack6
Like(0)
VanessaBarrantesAug8,201212:21PM
HelloJarret:
Thanksalotforthisinformationandforyourinterestingandinformativeblogs.
IhaveaquestionregardingtheintegrationofSAPHCMandStreamwork.
OnJuly,12ThomasJeneweinannouncedanewintegrationofxLSOandStreamwork.
http://scn.sap.com/community/trainingandeducation/blog/2012/07/12/sociallearningwithxlso
andstreamwork
Wereyoutalkingaboutthisintegration?Whenyousaidabovethat"ItwillalsobethefirstSAPHCM
producttoofferoptionalSAPStreamWorkintegration.."orthereisafurtherintegrationwiththewhole
SAPHCMSuite?
Bestregardsandthanks,
Vanessa
Like(0)
JarretPazahanickAug8,20123:44PM(inresponsetoVanessaBarrantes)
HiVanessa
ThatwasnottheintegrationIwastalkingaboutasStreamworkisgoingtobepartofthe
PA/OMHRRenewal(withanadditionallicense)althoughgiventthexLSOannouncementit
mightnotbethefirst:)
ThestrategyisstillevolvingontheentireSAPHCMsuitestrategyandifitisgoingtobe
Streamwork/Jamoracombinationofboth.IamgoingtovisitSAPinSeptandhopetoget
somemoreclarity.HereisasolidblogonJam/Streamworkfromafewmonthsback
http://productdesignjournal.blogspot.com/2012/02/reactiontomypostonfollow
feature.html
Like(2)
VanessaBarrantesAug8,20124:00PM(inresponsetoJarretPazahanick)
HelloJarret:
Thankyouforyourpromptreplyandforclarifyingmyquestionandthelink!
Bestregards,
Vanessa
Like(0)
JohnDraperAug9,20123:56AM
GreatblogJarret,i'msuretheSCNcommunityreallyappreciatestheeffortthatyouputintosharing
informationaboutnewproductslikethese.
Canyouprovideanyfurtherinsightintothe"Learning,EmployeeandManagerSelfService"
componentsoftheHRRenewal1.0offering?I'mwonderingwhatisgoingtobeincludedinaddition
totheESS/MSSofferingsthathavealreadybeendeliveredinEhP6andtheMSSAddon.
IhaveheardthattheoldBSPbasedLearningPortalscreenshavefinallybeenoverhauled(apet
peeveofmine),butcurioustoseewhatelsethereis.
Regards,
John
Like(0)
JarretPazahanickAug9,20124:49AM(inresponsetoJohnDraper)
HiJohn
ThanksforthekindwordsandthoseareasareslightlyoutsidemycoreandalthoughIhave
http://scn.sap.com/community/erp/hcm/blog/2012/06/01/newsaphcmfunctionalityhrrenewal10
9/17
25/07/2016
NewSAPHCMFunctionalityHRRenewal1.0|SCN
severalpresentationsonthefunctionality(stillunderNDA)Iamhopingtoseesomeblogsin
thecomingmonthsonthoseofferingsfromSAPorcommunitymembersaftertheyhave
wentthroughRampUp.
Intheinterimmaybe ThomasJeneweinwillprovidesomeinsightsonLearningandI
know SagarJoshihasprovidedafewblogsonESS/MSSandsurebothwouldbeopen
tojumpingintothiscommentthreadtoprovidesomeinsights.
Regards,
Jarret
Like(0)
SagarJoshiAug9,20121:24PM(inresponsetoJohnDraper)
TherehavebeensomeenhancementstoESS/MSSaswellwithHRRenewal1.0.
ForESSmainhighlightisanewsimplifiedUIforcasualCATSusers(weeklycalendar
layoutUIstillbasedonWDAtechnology),applicationfordisplayingholidaycalendars,
teamcalendarsandbirthdaycalendarofteam.
ForMSSmainhighlightisofferingofSubstitution/delegationfeatureinstandardwithvarious
optionsthatcanbeconfiguredtodecidewhichapplicationscanbeusedbysubstitute.Apart
fromthatmanyoldreportsinMSSarereplacedbyOperationaldataprovider(ODP)with
visualizationusingWDALV.
AlsowithHRRenewal1.0MSSisnotaddonandpartofstandardHRcomponents.
IsuggestyoucheckonlinehelpfordetailsandrequiredBusinessFunctions
http://help.sap.com/erp_hcm_ias_2012_01/helpdata/EN/37/878A840FF940B6B12382485E720BD7/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/erp_hcm_ias_2012_01/helpdata/EN/37/878A840FF940B6B12382485E720BD7/frameset.htm
Like(1)
GeorgeCredlandAug13,201211:01AM(inresponsetoSagarJoshi)
Willthenewsubstitutionfunctionalitybecrossapplicationi.e.CoverFinancials
andSRM?WecurrentlyuseUniversalWorklisttointegrateapprovalsfromallour
systemsinoneplacewithintheSAPEnterprisePortal.
Gladtoseetheinformationregardingredesignofreporting.Gettingawayfrom
HTMLGUIshouldmakeitmuchmoreusable.
Like(0)
SagarJoshiAug16,20124:58AM(inresponsetoGeorgeCredland)
Thebackendstillusesthesamesubstitutiontableswhicharebasically
providedbyWFAPIs.Soapprovalrelatedsubstitutionscanbedone
usingUWLornewlyprovidedsubstitutionUIforMSSandPOWL
workflowinbox.ThePOWLworkflowinboxisalsomultiplebackend
enabledsoManagerswillseealltheapprovalsfromdifferentsystemsas
well.
Inadditiontoapprovalsnowyoucanadditionallydelegatestartingof
applications(e.g.ateamsecretarymayseetheteamviewerandlaunch
applicationsandperformonbehalftaskforemployeesofteam)
Like(0)
MartinSgaardOct5,201211:06AM(inresponsetoSagarJoshi)
HiSagar
Ihavebeenreadingthroughallthecommentsonthisblog,andIhavenotbeen
abletofindananswertothefollowingquestions,soIamhopingyoucanhelpme.
1.WilltherebeanewESSlandingpagebasedonSAPUI5?(Wehavealotof
customerscomplainingabouttheperformanceoftheEHP5ESSlanding
page)
2.Ifyes,willtheuseofthislandingpagerequireSAPGateway?
3.Ifyes,willtherebeanadditionalfeeforusingSAPGatewayinsucha
scenariolikeESS,MSSorPAAdministrator?
4.WhenisthisESSSAPUI5landingpageexpectedtobeavailable?Andin
whichFeaturePack?
Youranswerwillbeverymuchappreciated.
Bestregards,
MartinSgaard
Like(0)
SagarJoshiOct5,201212:10PM(inresponsetoMartinSgaard)
HiMartin,
IcannotofficiallycommentonfutureproductroadmapbutIhave
requestedcolleaguesresponsibletothrowsomelighttoyourquestions
andrepondtothisthread.
RegardingexistinghomepageofESSIcanonlysaythatwedidsome
performancefixes(seenote1576412,1562610)inunderlyinglaunchpad
technology.Pleasecheckifyouhavethosefixes.Inadditionthestandard
rolecontainslotsofapplicationsandmanyofthemarecountryspecific
andtheyarehiddenatruntimebasedonBAdI.Ifyourcustomersdontuse
themthenyoushouldcreateasmallerroleandthisalsoimproves
performance.
Regardinglandingpages:YesthisrequiresGateway.Landingpagesare
http://scn.sap.com/community/erp/hcm/blog/2012/06/01/newsaphcmfunctionalityhrrenewal10
10/17
25/07/2016
NewSAPHCMFunctionalityHRRenewal1.0|SCN
builtonSAPUI5andODATAandfortheODATApartsthisisrequired.
Pleasecheckcommentsbelowinthethread.
ForyourotherquestionsIhopeyouwillgetanupdatesoon.
Like(0)
MartinSgaardOct9,20122:19PM(inresponsetoSagarJoshi)
HiSagar
Thanksfortheeffort.
Thetwomentionednotesareimplementedatourcustomer
base.Theysuredidhelp,butthecustomerswouldstilllikea
more"lean"andmoreresponsivesolution.
Ihavealwayscreatedalimitedlaunchpadconfigurationinthe
relevantmasterlanguagesothepoorperformanceisnot
becausealotofservicesneededtobehidden.
Bestregards,
Martin
Like(0)
GaneshKudvaOct9,20121:28PM(inresponsetoMartinSgaard)
HiMartin,
ThereareplanstoadopttheswimlaneconceptfortheESS/MSShome
pagesinnearfuture.But,Iwillnotbeabletostatetheplannedtimelines
atthispointoftime.
ForLicensingquestionIhavewillforwardthequestiontoresponsible
colleagues.Theymightansweryou.
bsetregards
Ganesh
ProductOwnerESS/MSS
Like(0)
MartinSgaardOct9,20122:23PM(inresponsetoGaneshKudva)
HiGanesh
InterestingnewsabouttheESS/MSSfrontpages.Iwilllook
forwardtomoreinformationonthat.
AndIhavetosaythatitisveryinterestingiftherewillbea
licensefeefortheuseoftheGateway.Especiallyasthe
statement"HRRenewal1.0isfree"soundssowrongifyouare
unabletorunitwithoutGatewayandthecustomerhastopaya
licensefeefortheGatewayinstead.
Bestregards,
Martin
Like(0)
JarretPazahanickOct9,20124:11PM(inresponsetoMartin
Sgaard)
IhaveitongoodauthoritytherewillNOTbean
additionallicensefeeforgatewayforexistingHR
customersfortheHRrenewalfunctionality(landing
pages)andshouldhaveablogoutlaterthisweek
whichcoversthisandseveralotherHRRenewal
topicsandtheroadmap.
Like(0)
SureshDattiOct10,20122:07AM(inresponsetoMartin
Sgaard)
Theremightbesomebrowserrestrictionsforthese
landingpages.IE9isprobablyonethatworks,notsure
ifthereareothers.
Like(0)
RobertMoellerNov9,20128:21PM(inresponsetoMartinSgaard)
TherewasachangetotheNetWeaverGatewaypricingsuchthatthis
shouldnotbeanissuefortheHRrenewalscenarios.Ididalsonotethat
therewasarecentblogOwenPettiford,called"NeedaNewUser
Interface(UI)orUserExperience(UX)insteadofSAPGUI?Readonto
findoutwhatyouneedtouse(Part1)"availablehere
( http://scn.sap.com/community/sapmentors/blog/2012/11/07/needa
newuserinterfaceuioruserexperienceuxinsteadofsapguireadon
tofindoutwhatyouneedtousepart1)thatalludestothispricechange
inthesectiontitled"SAPNetWeaverGatewayyoucanfindthefollowing
statementItshouldalsobenotedthatusageofGatewayisincludedin
yourSAPUserlicensesoanyinfothatcanbeaccessedbyausertype
viaSAPGUIcanbeconsumedviaGatewaywithnoconsumption
charge.PleasecheckpricingwithyourAccountExecutiveifthereare
questions.
http://scn.sap.com/community/erp/hcm/blog/2012/06/01/newsaphcmfunctionalityhrrenewal10
11/17
25/07/2016
NewSAPHCMFunctionalityHRRenewal1.0|SCN
Like(1)
ThomasJeneweinAug9,20121:36PM(inresponsetoJohnDraper)
HiJohn,
nexttothenewwebdynprobasedlearnerportalthereisamobilelearningapp
(http://www.sap.com/solutions/technology/enterprisemobility/hrapps/learningassistant
app/index.epx)andsomefurtherenhacementsingenerel,like
AutomaticconfirmationandFollowupforELearnings
ImprovedSearchfeaturewithoptionaltrex
MicrosoftOutlookCalendarIntegration
BookandStart(inoneclick)OptionforELearnings
ImprovedCourseProgramBooking
TrainingCalendarfeature
alsoaspartofdeliverythisyearthereisanaddontomanageexternallearnerswithLSO
seemoredetailshere http://scn.sap.com/people/thomas.jenewein/blog/2012/02/29/sap
customerscanusethesaplearningsolutionnowtomanagetheirextendedlearning
community
Regards
Thomas
Like(2)
JarretPazahanickAug10,20124:34PM(inresponsetoThomasJenewein)
ThanksforjumpingintotheconversationThomasasitismuchappreciated(plusI
knowyoulovetotalkaboutlearninganyways):)
Like(0)
JohnDraperAug10,20126:00AM
ThanksverymuchSagarandThomasforthedetailedinsights,andtoJarretforenticingthemto
share.
@Sagarwhenyousay"withHRRenewal1.0MSSisnotaddonandpartofstandardHR
components",doesthatmeanacustomercannowjustinstallEhP6andHRRenewal1.0togetthe
completesuiteofWDAbasedESS/MSSservices?
Regards,
John
Like(0)
SagarJoshiAug10,20126:06AM(inresponsetoJohnDraper)
@JohnYeswhenyouinstallHRRenewal1.0ontopofEHP6thenthereisnoneedtoinstall
MSSAddonsinceinEAHR607(softwarecomponentversionofHRRenewal)theaddon
hasbeenretrofittedtostandardcodeline.
Like(1)
ChrisPaineAug10,20126:31AM(inresponsetoSagarJoshi)
Seemsyoubeatmetoitinclarifyingthat!Thanks!Goodtoseethatthiswillallbe
partofstandardinEhP7
Like(0)
SagarJoshiAug10,20126:38AM(inresponsetoChrisPaine)
ForcustomerswhohaveneverusedMSSAddonontopofEHP5or
EHP6theydontneedtoinstallMSSAddonseperatelysincethisis
includedasapartofHRRenewaladdon.HRRenewal1.0alsouses
samesoftwarecomponentEAHR607andthisissameforEHP7.Thisis
whyHRRenewal1.0ispositionedasadvanceshipementofEHP7for
HCMcustomers.
Like(0)
ChrisPaineAug10,20126:29AM(inresponsetoJohnDraper)
HiJohn,
I'ddisagreewithSagar,HRRenewal1.0isstillanAddOnitdoesn'tcomewiththestandard
EhPload.PerhapsEhP7willfinallybringthisintothemainstream,butuntilthenitis
certainlysomethingelsethatyouwillneedtoloadadditionallyintoyoursystem.Ifyouclass
MSSAddOn1.0asanAddOn,thenyou'dhavetodothesameforHRRenewal1.0.Ifyou
checkinthePAM,HRRenewal1.0ismarkedasthe"upgradefrom"MSSAddon1.0.
SagarJoshiI'dsuggestfromwhatI'veseen,prettymuchtheonlythingforMSSinHR
Renewal1.0isthesubstitutions.Thereportingisstillprettyaverageatbest(comparedto
whatyoucoulddoifyouwereusingBW+somekindofvisualisationtool).Ilookforwardto
SAPbuildingsomethingmoregraphical,intuitiveandmodularthatcanberolledoutinto
MSS.Forexampleasimplepiechartvisualisationof%breakdownofperformancereviews
withdrilldownreportingwouldbegreat.(IknowasIwritethisthatit'sboundtoactuallybe
therenowandI'mgonnalookverystupidprettysoon!)
ThomasJeneweinItappearstomethatthenewLSOFrontEndisn'tactuallypartofthe
HRRenewal1.0package,butisit'sownseparatelyloadablecomponent.Isthisright?As
LSOcontinuestobeaseparatelyloadableandlicensableAddOncomponent?
FinallyJarret! Itseemstomethatofthethreescreenshotsinthisblog,twoaren'tgoing
tobedeliveredinHRRenewal1.0(LandingpageandPositionmaintenance)andthethird
(WDAHCMP&F)isactuallypartofEhP6.Couldyoupleaseconfirm?Ithinkthatyouhinted
http://scn.sap.com/community/erp/hcm/blog/2012/06/01/newsaphcmfunctionalityhrrenewal10
12/17
25/07/2016
NewSAPHCMFunctionalityHRRenewal1.0|SCN
tothisintheblogabove,butI'vecomeacrossmanypeoplewhohavebeenconfused
becauseofthisandhaveveryhighexpectationofwhatHRRenewal1.0(thetitleofthe
blog)willcontain.
Thanks!
Chris
Like(1)
SagarJoshiAug10,20127:51AM(inresponsetoChrisPaine)
ForcustomerswhohaveneverusedMSSAddonontopofEHP5orEHP6they
dontneedtoinstallMSSAddonseperatelysincethisisincludedasapartofHR
Renewaladdon.HRRenewal1.0alsousessamesoftwarecomponentEAHR
607andthisissameforEHP7.ThisiswhyHRRenewal1.0ispositionedasin
advanceshipementofEHP7forHCMcustomers.
RegardingMSSReporting,thefocuswastoreplacetheoldlistreporting(SAP
Query)withnewODPreportsbasedonWDandALVformostcommonlistreports
usedbymanagers.YesitisclearthatyoucandoalotusingBWandBOBJtools.
AsmentionedbyJaretthatdeliveryofHRRenewalhappensinwaves(orfeature
packs)soyouwillnotseelandingpageinwave1butpartofnextwave.
WDAbasedHCMP&FwhichactsasalternatetoAdobeinteractiveformsisinHR
RenewalandnotinEHP6.
Like(0)
ChrisPaineAug10,20128:19AM(inresponsetoSagarJoshi)
HiSagar,
Thanks!IhadseenmonthsandmonthsagothatWDAP&Fwaspartof
EhP6,happytoclarifynowthatitisn't.Iguessthat'swhyallthose
presentationshavesafeharbourstatementsonthem
I'mreallylookingforwardtoseeingthatlandingpageandtheHR
Administratorreworkingstoo.
Cheers,
Chris
Like(0)
JarretPazahanickAug10,20124:33PM(inresponsetoSagarJoshi)
ThanksforjumpingintotheconversationSagarasitismuchappreciated.
Like(0)
JarretPazahanickAug10,20124:37PM(inresponsetoChrisPaine)
HiChris
Ithinkthishasbeenclarifiedbelowbutletmeknowifthereisstillanyquestionsor
confusionasoneofthegoalsofthisblogismakesureeverythingis"crystalclear"
butbythetoneofmanyofthequestionsseemslikeIhaveawaystogoonthat
front
Onasidethanksforallyourcontributionsastheyarereallyhelpingmovethe
informationflowforward.
Jarret
Like(0)
PatrickBrandicourtAug10,20122:05PM
Lookingforwardtoseehowthisnewsolutionwillprovideastepchangefor"CasualUser"inthe
ESSMSSarea.
IperhapshaveaslightlydifferentexpectationasIhavebeenstrugglingwiththeSAPspeechinthe
areaofUIUXforawhile.
MyexpectationistoseeastepchangeintheSAPUsability.
SomeofyoumayhaveheardSAPis/willbeAppleSimpleandGoogleFast..ofcourseitisa
"simplified"marketingmessagebutthat'swhatsomeSAPcommunitymembersincludingleadersdo
remember.
IknowSAPportfolioishugesoitrequirestobreakanyactioninalotofsteps.
Mypersonalassessmentwillnotbebasedontheunderlyingtechnology(whatIcallUI:WDAvs
AdobeFormsandsoon....)butmoreonUsabilityassessment(youcanreadthisoldSAPdocument
here).
IamnotanexpertonUsability(IamassumingsomeSAPorganizationsare).IhopethatUsability
process/practices/guidelineshaveusedtoframe/todevelopthissolution.
ImustadmitIamlittlebitskepticalbasedonrecentexperienceinotherSAPareas(forexamplefor
professionalusers).
Iamassumingthat"guineapig"endusershavebeenusedtoverifytheUsabilityofthenewsolutions
(NiceUIdoesnotmeanUsable!).
SomeareconcernedaboutthetechnicalchangemanagementandIdounderstandwhy...myselfI
ammoreconcernedaboutthe"EndUserChangeManagement".
IfthissolutiondoesnotprovideastepchangeintheUserExperience(especiallyonlearnability)then
http://scn.sap.com/community/erp/hcm/blog/2012/06/01/newsaphcmfunctionalityhrrenewal10
13/17
25/07/2016
NewSAPHCMFunctionalityHRRenewal1.0|SCN
customerwillbeinfrontofamajorchallengetojustifytheuseofthisframework.
MypersonalbelievebasedonthecurrentemphasisonUserExperienceisthatitisperhapsthelast
chanceforSAPtoproofitintheHRarea.
SomeofmyusershaveseensomeMarketingSuccessFactordemosandtheywerehappywiththe
UserExperience.IhavenotassessediftrueendusersusingSucessFactorarehappy.
ItmeansthattohaveagreatUserExperienceOutofthebox(withconfiguration)isnotimpossible.
AnyfeedbackfromSuccessFactorsenduserscouldbehelpful.
FollowingtheacquisitionIwouldbedisappointedthatSAPdoesnotlearnatleastfrom
SuccessFactorsuccess(Ihopetheyhaveusedsomeoftheselearningsinthetobedelivered
solution).
Basedonmyexperiencemycurrentpositionisthattheonlywaytoprovideanenhancedgreatuser
experienceforcasualSAPusersisdoinhousedevelopment.That'samessagethatmy
managementisnotreadytohear(wearenotasoftwaredevelopmentcompany).
BottomlineIcrossmyfingers.
Sorry...Ihavewrittenquicklythiscomment(itisnotintendedtobeablogentryanditdoesreflectmy
ownthought).
Like(2)
AmeenSyedAug10,20123:13PM
HiJaret,
IwasrequestedtogetacompleteoverviewofwhatisbeendeliveredwiththelatestEHPpack.Can
youpleaseprovidemesomelinksorplacewhereicanfindtherelevant&completeinfoaboutEHP6
&7includingHRRenewal1.0.
Thiswouldbeofgreathelpforme.
Regards
Moosa
Like(0)
JarretPazahanickAug10,20124:32PM(inresponsetoAmeenSyed)
HiMoosa
UnfortunatelythereisverylittleinformationavailablepubliclyabouttheHRRenewalunless
youareaRampUpcustomerandhaveaccesstotheRKTmaterial.ThegoodnewsisI
plantowriteafollowupblogabouttheHRRenewalPhase2inSeptemberwhichshould
help.
AsfarasEHP6thatisalotofinformationavailableontheHRfunctionalityinEHP6.
Goodluckwiththesearch.
Jarret
Like(0)
RobertMoellerAug28,201211:31PM(inresponsetoAmeenSyed)
HiMoosa!
Herearesomelinksthatyoumayfinduseful.IassumethattheyrequireaSAPService
Marketplaceloginthough.
RolloutmaterialsforEnhancementPackages:http://service.sap.com/~form/sapnet?
_SHORTKEY=01100035870000698415&
Ifthelinkdoesnotwork,gotoservice.sap.com/erp,andthenfromnavigationpanechoose
EnhancementPackageforSAPERP.YoucanfindalotofinformationonEnhancement
Packages16herebutitwillbeawhilebeforeyouseestuffonEhP7.
FromhereyoucannavigatetotoolsliketheSolutionBrowser
(http://www.sapsolutionbrowser.com/)whereyoulistastartingreleaseandatargetrelease
andgetthelistofbusinessfunctionfilteredbyyoutopic(e.g.,HCM).
FromthetoplevelEnhancementPackagePage,youcannavigatetothesectiononAll
businessfunctionsindetailwhereyoucanviewHCMpresentationsbysubtopic(e.g.,
WorkforceProcessManagement)andEnhancementPackageLevel(e.g.,EhP5).
AnothergreattoolistheGlobalizationKnowledgeBaseservice.sap.com/gkb
(https://websmp207.sapag.de/gkb.)Fromhere,selectaproduct(e.g.,SAPERP6.0)
solution(e.g.,ERPHumanCapitalManagement)andoneormorecountries(e.g.,United
States).WithregardtoHCMyoucanfindoutaboutcountryspecificfunctionality,country
contactinformation,countryspecificlegalchangesandmore.
BestRegards,
RobertMoeller
SolutionOwner,HRLineofBusinessSolutions
SAPLabs,LLC.
Like(0)
JarretPazahanickAug14,20121:07AM
HeardthatgrumblingsthatSAPhas"plans"toaddAustralia,Canada,Germany,Mexico,
Netherlands,SwitzerlandandUKtotheHRRenewalanddeliveritinQ4/Q1viaasupportpackage
butnotsureyetthedepthoftheoffering.
Theadditionalcountriesmakessenseastheywerepartof10countryCloudPayrollsolutionandthe
HRRenewalfunctionalityisbeingusedaspartofthatsolution.
Like(0)
http://scn.sap.com/community/erp/hcm/blog/2012/06/01/newsaphcmfunctionalityhrrenewal10
14/17
25/07/2016
NewSAPHCMFunctionalityHRRenewal1.0|SCN
ChrisPaineAug30,20129:07AM
WorthnotingthatHRRenewal1.0wentGAtoday30August2012.Soyoucannowalldownloadit
andstartplayingwiththelastgaspofSAPonPremiseHCMgoodness.
Iwouldbeinterestedinpeople'sthoughts.
Like(0)
JarretPazahanickAug30,20124:05PM(inresponsetoChrisPaine)
Iwasabitsurprisedtoreadthe"fineprint"intheinstallationnotesof"HRRenewalcurrently
supportsNWBC4.0only"andreachedouttoSAPforclarity.Iwillupdateinthecomment
whenIhearbackfromSAPasifthisisaprereqitwilldramaticallyaffecttheadoption.
Like(0)
RobertMoellerAug30,20128:29PM(inresponsetoJarretPazahanick)
IbelievethattheNWBCfordesktopcommentappliestothePA/OMpartsof
FeaturePack1.0forHRRenewal.ItshouldnotapplytothepartsforLearning,
ESSandMSSbutIwillcorrectthisifIhearotherwise.Wehadplannedtohavethe
PA/OMpartsontheportalwithFP1.0buttherewasanissuerenderingthelanding
pageintheportalversion.Weunderstandtheimpactonadoption.Wedecided
nottodelaythereleaseandareresearchingtheearliestopportunitytomakethe
portalversionofthePA/OMpartsavailablebutthisshouldfollowclosebehindthe
currentrelease.Sorryforthedelaypleasestaytuned!
Like(1)
ChrisPaineAug31,201212:22AM(inresponsetoRobertMoeller)
HiRobert,
TheproblemisthatNWBC4.0isn'tGAyet.PAMhasitpendingfor
releasenextweek,butI'mnotsureifthatisrestrictedorGArelease.Do
youhaveanydetails?
Onapersonalnote,I'dlovetoknowwhatisthetechnicalreasonbehind
this,somesortofadditionalEventingframework?Anewwdarendering
model?Thetechyinmeisfascinated.
Like(1)
RobertMoellerAug31,201212:38AM(inresponsetoChrisPaine)
WellChris,weareindangerousterritory.Youknowthesaying,
ifItellyouwouldhavetodonotnicethingstoyou.HRRenewal
1.0wasannouncedGAtodaybutFeaturePack1.0(webbased
landingpageandinfotypemaintenanceforPA/OM)willbe
announcedshortlyaroundthesametimeofNWBC4.0for
desktop.ThereasonthatHRRenewal1.0andFeaturePack
1.0arebeingannouncedsoclosetogetherisbecausewehada
Rampup(~3months)periodforHRRenewal1.0andthereis
noformalRampupfortheFeaturePacks(FP).ForFPwehave
"extendedmonitoring".Idon'tknowtheexactproblemwith
renderingintheportalrightnowbutithastodowiththeuseof
UI5technologyinthelandingpage.Anyway,Ishouldsave
somematerialfornextblogbutweintendtocontinuewith
quarterlyshipmentsthiswayinto2013.
Like(0)
ChrisPaineAug31,201212:59AM(inresponsetoRobert
Moeller)
HiRobert.Firstthanksfornotputtingabountyonmy
head)Ireallylookforwardtohearingabitmoreabout
thesefeaturepacksiftheyaretheonesdeliveringthe
ui5landingpagesthentheywillcertainlyhavemany
peopleinterested.Ilookforwardtoyourblogs!
IcanimaginethatsurfacingOBNcallsthroughUI5
wouldn'tbethatobvious,stilloncethefeaturepack
andnwbc4arebothavailableI'dlovetoknowthe
details.
Backtotheoriginalpointthough,isNWBC4.0reallya
requirementforHRRenewal1.0(I'llnotusethequotes
andwillcapitalise)orisitarequirementfortheyetto
beannouncedfeaturepack?
Thanks!
Like(0)
RobertMoellerSep4,20127:51PM(inresponse
toChrisPaine)
First,Iagainwanttopointoutthatthe
programHRRenewalhasseveral
componentsincludingProcessesandForms
(P&F),PA/OMESS/MSS,andLearnerPortal.
Youhavethebaseshipment,HRRenewal
1.0thenFeaturePackstogoontop.Noneof
http://scn.sap.com/community/erp/hcm/blog/2012/06/01/newsaphcmfunctionalityhrrenewal10
15/17
25/07/2016
NewSAPHCMFunctionalityHRRenewal1.0|SCN
thefeaturesinthatbaserelease,HR
Renewal1.0,REQUIRENWBC4.0.P&F,
ESS/MSSandLearningPortalwillallrunon
theportalasbefore.
ThemaininnovationsofFeaturePack1.0are
thePA/OMlandingpage(a.k.a.,startpage)
andwebbasedinfotypemaintenance
utilizingWebDynproforABAP.WhenFP1.0
goesGA,nowplannedformidSeptember,
thePA/OMlandingpagewillonlyrunonthe
NWBC4.0.Therewassomeissuewith
renderingpartsofthelandingpageonthe
portalthatusedsomefeaturesofthenew
SAPUI5technologies.Theplanisforthe
PA/OMlandingpagetoalsorunontheportal
butthatpartwasdelayedduetotheissuejust
mentioned.Westillexpecttomakethe
PA/OMpartsavailableontheportalandwe
areresearchingtheearliesttimeand
deliverymechanismstodoso.Note,we
intendtoprovidenewFeaturePacksonthis
program,quarterlygoinginto2013.
RobertMoeller
SolutionOwner
Like(2)
FilipMisovskiSep4,20126:22PM
Hifolks,
IsawlotofquestionsandcommentsontheNWBC4.0andUIaspectslikeSAPUI5andUIServices
sothegoodnewsisthatwearereleasingthetechnologyasastandaloneproduct.Theproductwill
bereleasedattheendofthisweek.
SomeofthecapabilityliketheLandingPagewillbeonlyavailablefornowaspartoftheHCM
shipiment.ButtherestisallgoingtobeshippedinthisseparateUIAddOnproduct.Formoreinfo,
plssee thisfreshpostoutofthepress.
@RobertMoellergreattohearyouinthisthread,andit'samazinghowourroadscrossagain.Hope
alliswell!
Like(0)
JeffFauldsSep25,20124:52PM(inresponsetoFilipMisovski)
HiFilip,
I'vebeenreadingthediscussionthatresultedfromyourblogaboutthenewUIAddon.It
seemsthattheconsensusthatwasreachedovertherewasthatyouneededtohavean
instanceofNetweaverGatewayinstalledwhetherstandaloneorembeddedinorderto
makeuseoftheSAPUI5functionality.
Inthisdiscussiontherehasbeenalotoftalkaboutwhetheryouwouldneedthelatest
verisonofPortalorNWBCtorunthenewPA/OMlandingpagesthatarebuiltwithSAPUI5.
IsitsafetosaythatregardlessofwhetheryouuseportalorNWBCyouwillalsoneedto
haveGatewayinstalledforthePA/OMlangingpagestowork?
Like(0)
FilipMisovskiOct1,201212:35PM(inresponsetoJeffFaulds)
HiJeff,
Yes,youarecorrectcustomerneedstohaveGatewayfortheLandingPage
scenarioinHCMtowork,regardlessifthosearebeingdisplayedinNWBCor
Portal.TheLandingPageapprequiresparticularsetofODatabasedservicesto
consumethingslikeaLandingPageconfigurations,alsotopersistanychanges,
showandvisualizeinformationinsidetheLanes,etc.
Bottomline,thecustomerneedstheGatewayruntimethatdoestheOData
communicationbetweentheABAPHCMServerandtheClientappSAPUI5
LandingPagethatispoweredwiththeUIservicesdescribedinthe UIAddon
blog.
Weareplanningverysoontopostcoupleofnewblogswithconcretescenarios,
handsonmaterialandstepsofhowtousetheUIAddon,perhapsthenthispoint
becomesmorepracticalontherolethatGatewayandODataplays.
Like(0)
JarretPazahanickOct10,20124:47PM
HereisfollowuparticleonsomenewHRRenewalfunctionalityandtheroadmap
SAPNewHRRenewalFunctionalityandRoadmap
Like(0)
ShaktiBarathJun20,20135:09PM
VeryinformativeblogonHRrenewal.
Like(0)
http://scn.sap.com/community/erp/hcm/blog/2012/06/01/newsaphcmfunctionalityhrrenewal10
16/17
25/07/2016
NewSAPHCMFunctionalityHRRenewal1.0|SCN
JarretPazahanickJun20,201311:14PM(inresponsetoShaktiBarath)
ThanksforthekindwordsShakti
Like(0)
MALYADRIJWALAGJun30,201310:42AM
HIJaret,
nicearticle...Canutellmethebusinesfunctionsneedtoactivatetogetthisfuctionalitywatallneedto
activateforthis...asIwilltellmyBASISteamtodeploythatbusinessfunctionsorelseneedtoactivate
thestuffintooursystem...asMyselfwrkignonESSMSSPortal7.03version......kindlytellmeASAP.I
wanttoseemymaangerscrrenasaboveumentionedinthatdocuemtn
Regards,
Jwala,
essmss.
Like(0)
JarretPazahanickJul1,20134:22PM(inresponsetoMALYADRIJWALAG)
HereyougoJwala
http://help.sap.com/erp_hcm_ias_2012_01
Like(0)
SiteIndex
Privacy
ContactUs
TermsofUse
SAPHelpPortal
LegalDisclosure
Copyright
http://scn.sap.com/community/erp/hcm/blog/2012/06/01/newsaphcmfunctionalityhrrenewal10
FollowSCN
17/17