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Content
Overview ....................................................................
What do you need the VE-Presets for?...............................
The Templates ....................................................................
How to install the presets....................................................
How to integrate the VE-Presets in a DAW.........................
How to expand the VE-Templates.......................................
Virtual Small Ensemble (Presets, Midi Channels)...............
Virtual Chamber Orchestra A (Presets, Midi Channels).....
Virtual Chamber Orchestra B (Presets, Midi Channels).....
Virtual Symphonic Orchestra A (Presets, Midi Channels)..
Virtual Symphonic Orchestra B (Presets, Midi Channels)..
Remarks about the Mixing-Concept....................................
- About Frequencies in the Orchestra
Remarks about the Mixing-Concept II.................................
- About Positions of the Instrument Sections
Remarks about the Mixing-Concept III................................
- About Positions of Instruments in an Audio-Mix
- The Optimized Mix with the VE-Presets
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System Requirements
WIN/MAC:
Vienna Suite (1.3.1601or higher)
Samples of VSL with Vienna Instrument
or Vienna InstrumentPro.
WIN: VEPro4.1 or higher
VE 4.1* or higher (free Version)
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Voil! The orchestra is ready, plays in the correct size and with a perfect mix!
Please keep in mind that the VE-Presets do not content any sample when you load it the first time.
Each VE is prepared with the SUITE EFFECTS, all the instruments are perfect routed, "EQed" and "panned".
Further, all of them pass through the correct depth to the output of the VE into your DAW.
That means: You need to insert all the samples into each single Vienna Instrument. If you take the idea of having
"Every-Time-A-Good-Starting-Point" you could produce a sort of Basic-Preset (sample content and keyswitches).
More information about "Basic-Presets": http://www.beat-kaufmann.com/vitutorials/vibasicpresets/index.php
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Some of you have prepared whole orchestra-templates. That's OK. Unfortunately you lose a lot of time while loading those templates
and you probably use a lot of RAM for them each time you are working with them.
Some of you don't have such templates. They do the mix - and lose time for this job - with every new piece.
The Templates
You will get the following VE-Presets:
Percussion
Chamber-Orchestra Version
Symphonic-Orchestra Version
Brass
Small Ensemble Version (best for Solo Brass Instruments)
Chamber-Orchestra Version (best for Solo Brass Instruments or Ensembles)
Symphonic-Orchestra Version (best for Brass Ensembles)
Woodwinds
Small Ensemble Version (best for Solo Woodwinds)
Chamber-Orchestra Version (best for Solo Woodwind or Ensembles)
Symphonic-Orchestra Version (best for Woodwind Ensembles)
Strings
Small Ensemble Version (best for Solo Strings)
Chamber-Orchestra Version (best for Chamber Strings)
Symphonic-Orchestra Version (best for Orchestra/Appassionata Strings)
The Advantages
- Put your currently needed orchestra together with the "modules" you see below
- All the instruments inside the VE are panned and routed through a correct depth.
- You are free to exchange instruments inside each VE
- You are free to expand the amount of instruments inside each VE
- You are free to change the depths/concert rooms at any time (use the Hybrid-Presets)
- You save a lot of time
- You get good points of start for many standard situations
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VE - Brass
VE - Woodwinds
VE - Strings
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Percussion-tracks
Brass-tracks
Woodwind-tracks
String-tracks
VE-L-Woodwinds
VE-L-Brass
VE-L-Percussion
* Try to make "Basic-Presets" (All instruments and articulations follow the same keyswitches for example) See:
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http://www.beat-kaufmann.com/vitutorials/vibasicpresets/index.php
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Small: ideal for ensembles with a single instrument each section = small room
Medium: ideal for the size of chamber ensembles
Large: ideal for the size of symphonic orchestras
Advantage of the presets
Several things are done for You: the panning, the correct depth and also
the EQ settings. No need to change anything as long as you insert the corresponding instruments. Maybe you have to adjust the volumes a bit.
Exchange instruments within the preset
Let us assume you use a piano instead of the solo violin above.
No problem. The only thing you need to change is probably the EQ-settings
and of course the volume.
optimized
Master-Out
The Orchestra-Mixes out of the VEs are relatively "dry". So you can add a "reverb over all"
for getting an even more room feeling.
A little compression first followed by the
mentioned reverb above (algor.) and a bit of
stereo enhancing can increase the sound
even more!
Standard
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Depth 3
VE - Percussion
VE - Brass
Depth 2
Depth 1
VE - Woodwinds
VE - Strings
Solo
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Vienna Ensemble Presets V1.00, 2012
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Small
VE-S-Brass
Trumpet
Horn
Ch1
Ch3
VE-S-Woodwinds
Trombone
Ch4
Tuba
Ch5
Ctr Bassoon
Flute
Clarinet
Oboe1
Ch5
Ch1
Bassoon
Ch4
Ch1
Ch3
D-Bass
Ch5
Ch2
Harp
Ch6
VE-S-Strings
Trumpet 2
Cello
Viola
Harpsi.
Ch7
Ch4
Ch3
(free available)
Violin 1
Violin 2
Ch1
Soloist
Ch8
Ch2
Name of the Presets: VE-S-XXX(_VIPro)
Play a certain instrument with Midi-Channel ChX
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Medium
VE-M-Percussion
Timpani
Crash
Snare
Ch1
Ch2
Ch3
Triangle
(Tambourine etc.)
Ch8
Horn
Trumpet 1
Ch3
Ch1
VE-M-Woodwinds
Clarinet
(Oboe2)
Oboe1
Ch4
CtrBassoon
Flute Ch5
Bassoon
Ch1
Tuba
(Trbne 2) Trumpet 2
Ch2
Ch5
Ch4
Ch3
Ch2
Trombone 1
VE-M-Brass
D-Basses
Ch5
Harp
Ch6
Harpsi.
Ch7
VE-M-Strings-A
Violins 2
Violas
Ch2
Ch3
Violins 1
Cellos
Ch1
Soloist
Ch8
Ch4
Name of the Presets: VE-M-XXX(_VIPro)
Play a certain instrument with Midi-Channel ChX
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Medium
VE-M-Percussion
Timpani
Crash
Snare
Ch1
Ch2
Ch3
Triangle
(Tambourine etc.)
Ch8
Horn
Trumpet 1
Ch3
Ch1
VE-M-Woodwinds
Clarinet
(Oboe2)
Oboe1
Ch4
CtrBassoon
Flute Ch5
Bassoon
Ch1
Tuba
(Trbne 2) Trumpet 2
Ch2
Ch5
Ch4
Ch3
Ch2
Trombone 1
VE-M-Brass
D-Basses
Ch5
Harp
Ch6
Harpsi.
Ch7
VE-M-Strings
VE-M-Strings-B
Violas
Cellos
Ch3
Ch4
Violins 1
Violins 2
Ch1
Soloist
Ch8
Ch2
Name of the Presets: VE-M-XXX(_VIPro)
Play a certain instrument with Midi-Channel ChX
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Large
VE-L-Percussion
Xyl/Marim Timpani
Snare(s)
Glockenspiel
Ch7
Ch1
Ch3
Ch6
Triangle
Cymbal
Bs Drum
Ch8
Ch4
Ch2
Tubular
Ch5
Horns
Trumpets 1
Ch3
Ch1
Ch4
VE-L-Woodwinds
Clarinets
Ch1
Trumpets 2
Tuba
Bassoons
Flutes
Ch3
Ch2
Ch5
Ch4
CtrBassoon
Ch5
Oboes
Ch2
Trombones
VE-L-Brass
D-Basses
Ch5
Harp
Ch6
VE-L-Strings-A
Violins 2
Violas
Ch2
Ch3
Violins 1
Cellos
Ch1
Ch4
Soloist
Name of the Presets: VE-L-XXX(_VIPro)
Play a certain instrument with Midi-Channel ChX
Ch8
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Large
VE-L-Percussion
Xyl/Marim Timpani
Snare(s)
Glockenspiel
Ch7
Ch1
Ch3
Ch6
Triangle
Cymbal
Bs Drum
Ch8
Ch4
Ch2
Tubular
Ch5
Horns
Trumpets 1
Ch3
Ch1
Ch4
VE-L-Woodwinds
Clarinets
Ch3
Ch1
Tuba
Bassoons
Flutes
Trumpets 2
Ch2
Ch5
Ch4
CtrBassoon
Ch5
Oboes
Ch2
Trombones
VE-L-Brass
D-Basses
Ch5
Harp
Ch6
VE-L-Strings-B
Violas
Cellos
Ch3
Ch4
Violins 1
Violins 2
Ch1
Soloist
Ch2
Name of the Presets: VE-L-XXX(_VIPro)
Play a certain instrument with Midi-Channel ChX
Ch8
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D-Basses
Frequencies
High
Low
Seeing the upper distribution we know that it will be difficult to get a transparent mix this way. The high violins will cover the Flutes,
the trumpets and so on. For getting a transparent mix we should have positions as we can see below:
Trombones
Bassoons
Violins 1
Tuba
Oboes
Violas
Horns
Flutes
Cellos
Trumpets 1
Clarinets
D-Basses
Trumpets 2
Violins 2
Of course, we don't want to dissolve holy positions. Nevertheless, we can deviate a little bit within the audio mix.
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Trumpets 1
Flutes
Violins 1
Violins 2
Violas
Tuba
Bassoons
Cellos
D-Basses
Frequencies
High
Percussion
Trumpets 2 Horns
Trombones
Clarinets
Oboes
Low
Beside the frequencies we have another bad situation in a mix with the upper arrangement. Instrument sections are covered by
other sections. Though, we have this in practice, we could improve this situation for our mix as well:
Instrument Sections:
A possible ideal
(transparent mix)
Percussion
Trumpets 1 Horns
Trumpets 2 Trombones Tuba
Violins 2
Violas
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Cellos
D-Basses
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Stereo - Signal
Violins 1
Oboes
Clarinets
Violas
Horns
Flutes
Percussion
Trumpets 1 Trombones
Trumpets 2
Tuba
Bassoons
D-Basses
Cellos
Violins 2
Frequencies
High
Low
The Frequencies are panned from the left to the right, deep and the high energy signals come more from centre (even better solved with
the B-Versions) Further, the woodwinds are a bit turned to the left and the brass instruments more to the right which leads to an even
better transparency. Nevertheless, the mix follows more or less the common rules within the concert halls.
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