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lucianosays:
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July21,2011at8:03pm
356Lfreezerdoesnotdefrost.whatisthecause
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Hermawansays:
July21,2011at10:58pm
trytoforcedtodefrostcycle,ifitworks(defrostheater)theproblemmaybeinthe
controlleritselforfaultydefrostthermistor.
Ifthecontrollerworkproperlybutdefrostheaterdoesntwork,perhapstheproblem
comingfromDefrostHeater/DefrostRelay/DefrostThermoFuseormaybeelectrical
connectionfaulty.
Note:Electricalcircuitmayvaryformdifferentmanufacture,socarefullylearnitbefore
analyzing.
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RonnieSeverinosays:
October27,2011at2:29pm
hiibetthereissomethingwronginthisschematicdiagramhereatthedefrostsystem
area..ATthedecfrosttimeritshouldbesuppliedline1and2atthedefrosttimercoil
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Hermawansays:
October27,2011at8:18pm
insomefridge,thedefrosttimerpowereddirectlyfrommainlineanditworks
continousanytime,butbothwiringaboveusedinmanyfridgemanufactureandit
workswell.
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Alisays:
November22,2011at12:32am
@Ronnie..youvelostyourbet!
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RonnieSeverinosays:
November22,2011at5:47am
HereisthethinghereDefrostTimerwhether110Vor220Vacshouldbesupplied
withpowertomakeitwork.Terminal3hereshouldbetheline1connectedtothe
redlinewirehereofthedefrosttimermotorandalsothecommonterminalfor
compressor(terminal4)andheater(terminal2).Terminal1willbetheLine2.Inthis
diagram,whereisthesupplyforyourTerminal1whichshouldbetheLine2?How
wouldthetimerwork?Nowhere,iftheDTadvancestodefrostmode(Terminal3,
whichisLINE1,switchestoTerminal2),itwillgivesupplytotheterminal1,which
istheLINE2.Howdoyouthinkaboutthatsir?ThankyouandIwillstillfollowon
myexperiencesandotheraccurateandreliablesource.
RonnieSeverinosays:
October31,2011at4:22pm
Ijustwanttoclarifyabovespeciallythetimer,thatihadfoundmistakewithduerespectin
thediagram.Thetimerhereshouldbepoweredbaseonthespecs,say220Vor110V.Thus,
terminals1and3,whichisthecoilofthetimermustbesuppliedwith220Vor110V.Butin
theschematicdiagramabove,thedefrosttimerwillnotworkherebecauseterminal1has 4/11

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theschematicdiagramabove,thedefrosttimerwillnotworkherebecauseterminal1has
nosupply.Terminal3hasalreadyaline(redlineL),thenterminal1shouldgetalinefrom
blueline(N).Inthedrawingabove,youwouldexpectthattheterminal1wouldgeta
supplywhenthetimergetsintodefrostmode?Rememberthatduringthedefrost
mode,terminal3willswitchtoterminal2thatgivesasupplytotheheater.Nowhere,
terminal1and3willshareonesupplyduringthedefrostmode,whichwillturnintoshort
circuit,butitwillnotgonnahappen,thedefrosttimerherewillnotworkbecausetheother
terminalhasnopower(terminal1).
Isuggest,thattheterminal1mustgetapowerfromthebluelineoftheheatertocomplete
thecircuit,andthedefrosttimernowwillwork
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Hermawansays:
November20,2011at1:03pm
fortype1circuit:
butthecoilTimerhastoleranceforabout10%forvoltagedrop.Whenitcoilparallel
withtheDefrostHeaterthevoltagedropacrossHeaterisverysmall,itsabout2volts
dropintheHeatersothepowersupplytothetimercoilapprox.218voltor108voltsin
110voltscircuit.TheTimerstillworksproperly.AndwhentheDefrostThermobypass
thetimercoil,theDefrostHeaterwillget220Vor110Vandtimercoilhavenovoltage
betweenthetwoterminal(theTimerstopoperationwhilesystemdefrosted)and
continuethetimecyclewhentheEvaporatortemperaturereachtheDefrostThermocut
inpoint/whenalltheiceformintheevaporatormelted).
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Alisays:
November22,2011at7:46am
Terminal1gainpowerfromthebluelinethroughthedefrostheaterwhileterminal3
connectedtoterminal4tocompressor.Whentheterminal3connectedtoterminal2in
defrostmodetimerwillstopuntilthebimetalcutout.Mostrefrigeratorjapanmadeusethis
kindofwiringdiagram.EuropeorAmericanmaderefrigeratoruseadifferenttimerand
wiringdiagram.
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RonnieSeverinosays:
November22,2011at9:33am
InSaudiArabiaaswell..Ididrepairmany110VACnofrostRef.Defrosttimershouldnot
stop,Itislikeaclockwhichhasthedefrostmodefor20to30minsandadvancesthento
coolingmodefor6or8minutes,acycle.Whenthedefrostthermostatopens,itbreaksthe
linegoingtotheheater,thentheheaterwillbeoffeventhedefrostmodeisstillgoingon.
Yousaidtheterminal1gainspowerfromthebluelineoftheheater,defrostheatereither
110VACor220Vacmustbesuppliedwithpowerbothitsline1andline2.Theheaterhere
hasindicatedablueline(sayLine1)andblack(sayline2,willbecomeredwhenthetimer
advancestodefrostortoterminal2),whichiscorrect.Nowtheproblemhereisthedefrost
timersupplymyfriend.Lookatitclosely.
TheDefrosttimermustberunningallthetimelikeaclock,unlessbrokenlol
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RonnieSeverinosays:
November22,2011at9:35am
Iwouldliketocorrectthedefrosttimeroperation.Ithas6to8hoursforthecooling
(compressor)and20to30minutesfordefrosting(Heater)dependsonthemodelof
timer..Thanks
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Alisays:
November22,2011at2:58pm
@ronnie,maybeyouhavenoexperiencesrepairingrefrigeratorjapanbrand.Alljapan
branduseabovediagram.whathaveyoustatedaboveisthetimerusedineuropeand
americanbrand.Pleasesearchthewebforreference.Ifyouareanengineerandmaybe
youhaveasetofdefrosttimeranddefrostheaterandstuff,pleasetakeyourtimefora
littleexperimentaccordingtothewiringdiagramandiguaranteeyoulllearn
somethingpleasebeopenmindedanddontbeaonetrickpony^_^
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RonnieSeverinosays:
November27,2011at12:13pm
Hereisonething.ifyouknowtheoperationofthecomponentsuchasdefrost
timeryouwillnolongergetlostintroubleshootingitandconnectingitinacircuit.
Anyway,Ididpostyourdiagraminthehttp://www.hvac.comsite..Andtheydont
agreedonittheyhadcorrectionsorrevisionsmade.Firstisthepowersupplyof
thetimer..terminal1isnotinthecorrecttappingThequestionis..eitherjapanor
americandefrosttimer..wouldtheyhavedifferentconnectionsinacircuit?Would
theyhavedifferentoperatingprincipleswethersupplied110or220Vac?Dont
dependtoomuchonwiringdiagramKnowingtheoperatingprincipleofsuch
thingwouldbeanadvantage..cheersfolk!
RonnieSeverinosays:
November27,2011at12:15pm
Imsorryagain..hereisthesite:http://www.hvacphilippines.com.ifyouhavetime!!!
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Alisays:
November27,2011at3:56pm
http://www.applianceaid.com/images/sampleSxSdiagram.JPG>>GeneralElectric
refrigeratormadeinAmerica.
http://i40.tinypic.com/2h5mnbr.png>>SharprefrigeratormadeinJapan.
Canyouseethedifference?
Thequestionisthe2diagramabovefromthisblogowneraretheywork?yestheywork
well
Butifyourquestionaretheyrightorwrong?Itdependswhoisthepersonthatanswering
thequestion?theresultisjustanopinion,itcanberightanditcanbewrong.Pleasedont
lookingforanopinionbutdoyourownexperiment,fromexperiencingyouwilllearn
somethingevenitcostmore

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somethingevenitcostmore
cheers
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Allansays:
January22,2012at10:02pm
HiHermawanthanksforpostingthesewiringdiagrams.Theywerequitehelpfulin
figuringoutadefrosttimerissue.Arepairmanfixedourrefrigeratoryesterday.Ithadbeen
failingtodefrost,sohereplacedthedefrosttimerandadefrostthermostatassemblythat
includeswhatapparentlyisadefrostheaterfuse.Aftertherepairitseemedtoworkfineat
first,sowepaidhimandhewentonhisway.Whenthefrigcametothefirstdefrostcycle,
itdefrostedforalongtime.Wethought,Ok,gooditsfinallygettingridofalltheice
thatsbuiltup.Wecheckedthedraintrayanddumpeditseveraltimes.Itkeptdefrosting.
Evenwhentherewasnothingmoretodefrost,itkeptdefrosting.Itwasstuck.Itwouldnt
comebackon.
Well,itwasntverycoldanymoreandwehadtokeepthefoodfromspoiling,sowe
tinkeredwiththenewdefrosttimerandfoundthatwecouldrestartthefrigbymanually
turningthetimershaftthatsticksouttheback.Itstartedgettingniceandcoldagain.Sothe
emergencywasoverfornowbutnotwantingtohavetodothisagainevery6or7hours,
weneededabettersolution.
Thewiringofthisfrigislikeyourtype1diagramaGeneralElectricmodelfromKorea.
Exactlylikeitexceptthatitalsoincludesafuseinserieswiththedefrostheater.The
problemturnedouttobethatwhentherepairmanreplacedthethermostatandfuse,hegot
twowiresreversed.Lookingatthetype1diagram,supposethatthewirefromterminal1
ofthedefrosttimercamestraightoutandconnectedtothetopendofthedefrost
thermostatratherthanthebottom.Thatshowthisfrigwasnowwired.
Lookingcloselynowaslongasthecompressorisrunning,thetimersteadilyadvances,
beingpoweredthroughthedefrostheaters.Whenthetimerreachesthedefrostcycle,with
theflipofaswitchitturnsoffthecompressor,turnsonthedefrostheater,andturnsitself
off.Thisstateofthingsremainsaslongastheresstillicetodefrost.Whenthedefrostingis
done,thedefrostthermostatopens,turnsoffthedefrostheaters,andifwiredcorrectlyasin
thetype1diagram,turnsthedefrosttimerbackon.Thedefrosttimernowbeginssteadily
advancingagain,andsoonswitchesthecompressorbackon,andwerebackwherewe
started,inthenormalmodeofoperation.
Withthewiringerroronourfrig,mostofthisstillworkedthesame.Thedifferencewasjust
thatoncethetimerturneditselfoff,itwasoffforgood,beingquitethoroughlyshortedout
nowbythedirectconnectionbetweenterminals1&2,withnointerveningdefrost
thermostattobringitbacktolifeatthepropertime.
NowthatIunderstandhowthetype1systemoperates,Imquiteimpressedatitselegance.
Itwillalwaysallowthedefrostingjobtofinishbeforethecompressorisrestarted.Ifalong
defrostingjobisneeded,itwillaccommodatealongdefrostingjob.Ifonlyashort
defrostingjobisneeded,thatswhatitwillprovide.Itdoesawaywiththeinefficienciesof
havingtositandwaitafterthedefrostingjobisdone,waitingforthedefrosttimertofinish
countingoutsomepredeterminedintervaloftimebeforethecompressorcanbestarted
again.
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Hermawansays:
January23,2012at7:35am
HiAllan,
Thatsrighttheproblemcamefrommisswiredontheterminalno1.Itwillrunfora
singlecyclethenstopallthetime.
Btw,nowyoucanrepairthefridgeelectricalproblemsbyyourself
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austinbert2012says:
October9,2012at3:34pm
Thisismyfirstvisitonthissiteandifounditveryinformativeasyouhaveprovidedhere
inthispost.
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Surensays:
March23,2013at6:30am
Ihaveaproblemwithmyfridge.Deepfreezerisnormalbuttheothercompartmentisnot
gettingcooled.Fanoperateswiththedoorswitch.
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Hermawansays:
March23,2013at8:20am
checkthermostatinsiderefrigeratorcompartment.Ifitstuckclosedthecompartment
willnotcool
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Surensays:
March23,2013at3:52pm
Thankyou.Iwillcheckandcomment
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Surensays:
March27,2013at6:22am
Theproblemwasthedefrosttimer.Imanuallyturneditandnowthefridgeisworking
properly.
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EmmanuelLumpungusays:
April5,2013at2:26pm
itsreallyagreatsitetoimprovemyfieldbeinganHVACRstudentatNORTEC.thanx
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adeolasays:
September7,2013at9:34pm
hi,areyoualsorunningaschoolonref/aircon
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Tonysays:
October18,2013at4:06pm
Thanxforyoclearinsightguyz.pliztelmewhnthelivewireleavesthermostat2overload,it
isinwatcharge,liveorneutral
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Hermawansays:
March8,2014at10:19pm
live
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Tonysays:
November9,2013at9:06pm
Interested
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Tonysays:
November9,2013at9:08pm
Gdxplernatorydiagram
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kenmurisays:
November15,2013at2:06pm
AmanengineernIneedafollowup.
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kwandzazulusays:
December30,2013at8:20pm
accidentallyshortcircuitwireswiththethermostartwire
whatcouldhavebeendamage
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Hermawansays:
March8,2014at10:18pm
temperaturewillcolderthannormalbecausethecompressorcontinuousrununtilthe
defrosttimereaches.foralongtime,theliquidrefrigerantwillenteringthecompressor
anddamagethemechanicalinside.
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londoncheapaccommodationsays:
December31,2013at8:39am
Itslikeyoureadmymind!Youappeartoknowsomuchaboutthis,
likeyouwrotethebookinitorsomething.
Ithinkthatyoucoulddowithafewpicstodrivethemessagehomeabit,
butinsteadofthat,thisisgreatblog.Afantasticread.
Iwillcertainlybeback.
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AbuHafsssays:
February15,2014at3:15am

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February15,2014at3:15am
Hi
MyMitsubishirefrigeratorisnotcooling.
WhenIopenedtherearwallinsidethefreezersection,Ifoundtwothermostats..both
rectangularshapedsealedinaplasticpouch.
1.Oneisokay.
2.TheothershowingcontinuityatroomtemperaturebutnochangeafterIimmersedinice
water.Whatisthissecondthermostatfor?
3.Theheaterisalsookay.
4.Ialsofoundasmallplasticcylindricalsensorlookingthingwithtwothinwhitewires.It
isconnectedwiththemainconnectorhavingwiresfromthefan,heaterandthermostats.
Whatisitandwhatisitfor?ItbearsanumberT2312.
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AbuHafsssays:
February15,2014at3:26am
Hereisthephotooftheplasticsensor:
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Hermawansays:
March8,2014at10:14pm
thatisathermofuse
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robertsays:
March2,2014at1:15am
incorrectcircuitdiagrammotherfucker
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Hermawansays:
March6,2014at5:50am
HiRobert,
areyousure?
pleasetellmewhereisthepointincorrectcircuitdiagram?
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DINESHKUMARsays:
March7,2014at7:40pm
Nice
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heatingandcoolingsalessays:
March26,2014at8:20am
Amazingpostings.Thanks!
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mdkhairulislamsays:
August2,2015at2:58pm
thank
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chibuzonwaogusays:
October7,2015at7:10pm
imanelectricalenng,iwonttoknowmoreaboutrefrigerator
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JacobCsays:
November24,2015at11:29pm
Veryclearexplanation.Helpedmeunderstandmyfridgescircuitdiagram.Thedefrost
timerwasntadvancing.Severaltechiciansreplacedthetimerwithoutanyeffect.Withthe
helpofyourexplanationItracedthefaulttothethermofuse.Ireplaceditandvoilathe
timerhasstartedtoadvance!Nowkeepingmyfingerscrossedthattheevaporaterwontice
upagain..
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