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Sri Ravindranatha Tagore

07.05.1861, 0251 LMT, 0227 IST at 22N40, 88E30

Sikhi

Sani
Budha

Guru
Navma
Lagna
Chandra

Ravi
Rhu

Sukra

Kuja

Ayanmsa Used: 22039 (Hari)

Budha
Kuja
Rahu

Budha
Guru
Rsix10
Career

Chandra

Ravi
Kuja
Sukra
Sani

Lagna
Nodes

Chandra

Guru

Rsix7
Children

Sikhi

Sani

Lagna
Ravi
Sukra

Profile of Planetary Influence

Daa at birth: Budha: 13 years - 00 months - 02 days: Up to 09 May 1874

Sikhi
Sukra
Surya
Chandra
Kuja
Rhu

From 09 May 1874 to 09 May 1881

09 May 1881 to 09 May 1901

09 May 1901 to 09 May 1907

09 May 1907 to 09 May 1917

09 May 1917 to 09 May 1924

09 May 1924 to 09 May 1942

This is a chart where the Rasi and Navamsa are the same in Raman, Lahiri and the
ayanamsa I have proposed. But the Rasix10, dasamsa Lagna is different for Raman
ayanamsa as his Lagna will be 333-57+2-11 = 336-08. Dasamsa Lagna will be Simha. In
Saptamsa Ramans data gives Tula as Lagna. Same is the situation with Lahiri. So at the
very basic level, a query arises with reference to ayanamsa

1. Which is the Saptamsa Lagna of Sri Tagores horoscope, Kanya or Tula? Both Rasis are
heavily afflicted and the judgment can be subjective unless some event points to Budha or
Sukra as having the lordship of children.
2. Which is the Dasamsa Rasix10 or the Mihiras D10? We must think over.

Course of Life:

1. Voyage to Europe 18th year - September 1878: Ketu (dasa) Guru (bhukti): Lahiri puts the
event in Sani (bhukti) Which is the right choice, Guru or Sani for the voyage for studies,
career, across the seas?

Sani of Simha takes one to the hills or to the sea?

Guru of Kataka versus Sani of Simha which one is more appropriate for sea
voyage?
Event is going abroad, yes, Sani can cause the event by 12 th lordship but contrast
the nature of the event and Rasi-seelam. Journey is for career and across the sea
life in sea perhaps it took weeks to reach UK. Which planet could have given such a
life in the ship, in the ocean?
Guru is in exchange with Chandra two watery signs influence Guru and Mahayoga
can there be any other candidate to cause a voyage across the sea? Just think
over, I have no assertions.
If suppose we take Sani as causing this voyage, another query comes Why the
Guru bhukti failed to cause any development in his career despite being 10th lord
exalted in 5th in exchange with Chandra?
Sanjay says, it is improper to travel during Guru, Tagore was in ship in a moving
Home in the ocean. Separation from home is well explained by Dasa lord Ketu in the
4th.
Ramans ayanamsa no comments. Sukra-Sukra, in astrology anything can be
justified by inventing logic because a great majority has no scientific thinking and
Upasana.

2. Marriage 9 December 1883: Sukra (d) Sukra (b): Kalatrakaraka and own varga in
Navamsa are the only factors, I can point out. If Surya could cause marriage by virtue of
association with Sukra and Budha by partaking their qualities and duties, why didnt Sukra
cause marriage in his own bhukti? We must apply logic fully to churn out the truth.

Surya could have caused marriage, had there been failure by Sukra not by virtue of
association but because he is lord of Navamsa-Lagna. Of course, affliction of Surya
by Rahu was an affliction over his marital life.
We must note that the Kalatrakaraka is in own varga in Navamsa and thus favorable
to cause marriage.
Imagine a situation of 1881 when an astrologer could have predicted Tagores
marriage in Sukra-Sukra that is unfolding or could anyone have said: Sukra cannot
cause marriage in his bhukti and Surya, the 6th Lord shall cause marriage?
If Ramans Venus-Moon is correct, what is Ramans explanation for Venus and Sun
not causing marriage in their bhuktis? Raman needed such things as stellar influence
to justify his ayanamsa. What for is then Rasi and Vargas? Stellar lordship is above
Rasi and Varga? Ramans ayanamsa can be justified only with Ramans astrology.

3. 1886 His daughter Madhuri Lata was born in Sukra-Chandra (b): Whole of 1886 Chandra
bhukti prevailed. With Raman marriage in Moon and Child in Rahu and the chart has the
exchange of first lord Guru and 5th lord Chandra?

Sanjay has to hope for the event before June 1886 to place the birth of daughter in
Venus-Moon? Justifies Mars too. Good.
But while justifying Mars, should we not think as to why Chandra did not give him a
daughter during its bhukti despite being lord of 5 th in exchange with Guru? Unless, we
answer this part, the predictive logic cannot be complete.
So all the three ayanamsas may be explaining child birth but Lahiri & Raman cannot
explain as to why Chandra did not give him a child during its bhukti or why Sukra did
not cause marriage to Tagore in Sukra bhukti. Only an integrated evaluation can lead
us to the truth.

4. 22.12.1901: Shantiniketan Surya (d): Chandra (b): Shantiniketan was born out of his mind
the lord of which is in mutual exchange with 10 th lord Guru. Mahayoga caused by Chandra
was operating to enable him to create an Institution. 5 th is the house of Vidya and the lord of
Vidya formed mahayoga with Karmapati.
Rx10, not the wrong Mihira conventional D10 has to be looked into for career. Chandra is the
lord of Rx10 Lagna. Sanjay has used the wrong Mihira D10 to take dasamsa lagna as Dhanu
and Kataka as 8th. Niyati cannot be so foolish see the beauty of astrology Kataka, the
source of his talents is the dasamsa Lagna and Moon its lord is in Dhanu, the 10 th house of
Rasi. Mahayoga involving 1&5 thus gets related to 5&10 in Dasamsa and so he created an
educational institution.
5. Death of Wife Mrinalini Devi on 23.11.1902: Raman places the event in Sun-Sat. Lahiri
has the tragic event in Surya-Guru (b): How can this be explained?

Lahiri - How can Surya (d) Guru (b) kill the wife?
Sun Rahu (b) I will put the blame on the affliction by Rahu on NavamsaLagnapati. Lagna had navamsa in 6th with the lord afflicted by Rahu this is a very
correct principle afflicted lord of navamsa Lagna affects marital life.
Rahus lordship, I dont use. With my experience of the tradition, I am not aware of a
logic like Rahu is 7th lord or similar.

6. Daughter Renuka died in 1903 September: Sun Guru (b), Karako bhavanasaya: Rx7 also
explains the event Surya and Guru in Kendras in Saptamsa has evil propensities in respect
of 5th house. Lahiri places in Sun-Sat(b): Can be well explained. Saturn afflicts the Rx7 Lagna
of Lahiri.
7. Younger son died in 1907 November. Chandra-Chandra: Chandra as putrapati does not favor
male issues 5th house sandwiched between malefics. Chandra-Kuja or Rahu as per Lahiri
Classical rules on 5th house justify both the productive and destructive roles of Chandra and
Guru in respect of children.
8. Nobel Prize: September 1913: Chandra Budha (b): Rx10, Budha is quite dominant and
influence Chandra and Guru. Of course, Budha is in 12 th of Rx10Lagna and so he used the
money for social work. Award was for his work in literature and Chandra and Budha are the
most suited as per dasamsa.

Lahiri requires Ketu but Ketu is in the house of Budha and then why Budha did not get
him the honour? If Ketu can why not his master Budha? If Ketu could bring such an event
why Budha had to be a dull period?
Budha brought the honor and Ketu saw him under limelight. Cant this be the correct
interpretation?

9. Doctorate November 1913 again Chandra-Budha.

10. Death 7 August 1941: Rahu-Kuja:
Sanjay, earlier said that kaarakobhavanasaya is not applicable to such a brilliant
Jupiter. If so how can Guru in such auspicious yoga kill him?
We can justify saying that he had Moksha and so 10 th lord in 5th was the most
appropriate agent to enable his crossing of Akasa Ganga.
11. We must have a whole some look which ayanamsa gives a smooth explanation not only
justifies but also not generating questions like the ones I have raised like why Sukra (b) did
not cause marriage? Why Chandra (b) did not give a son?
12. Other issues related to ayanamsa & zero point, I have already mailed you the materials. I
have not much botheration about ayanamsa. There was a time when I thought that people
will accept the truth immediately. It was Her Grace that none did accept it. So I have studied
further under Her and I experience Her grace. My astrology or Upasana is not that of Sri
Raman the fact that he could not accept Lahiri Ayanamsa speaks His institution did good
and bad things his ego perpetuated a wrong ayanamsa. I will never commit that mistake. I
want people to check both Lahiri and the value, I have given. Also, other aspects. I have
submitted a report in a Kerala conference that outlines the physical effects of Zodiac that can
be tested.
13. 14th Night 22:55 is Makara Samkrama, my disciples will be testing the impact of Samkrama
over their physical body. You have said that the Rahu-Sikhi Chakra was known to all. What is
Samkrama? Has anyone said it? Mihira or others that it can be experienced on the body? If
yes, why Raman and others could not so far ask the medical men to come and see on his
body the samkrama?
What is Surya-samkrama? Orbit is circular and the body Surya/Prthvi is always moving.
Where it does samkramam change the path? What the dictionary say about the word
meaning of samkramam?

Srya-samkramam is not in the sky. It is the Prna-Srya that undergoes Samkrama

from Id to Pigala or viceversa when Sun moves across certain points which we
have come to know as boundaries of signs. Zodiac is the mathematical expression of
the experience of the Yogis Jyotisha is not jargon and Jyoti is not the sparks seen
on the heaven Jyoti of Jyotisha is experience. If my Guru permits me, tomorrow, I
can prove before the world that Jyotisha is testable influence of Sun and Moon is
testable. This influence has a geometry and that is Mldhra Chakra. I am not
confused because of Her grace. I dont care about ayanamsa too. I care only for that
Jyoti and that Jyoti needs Mldhra Rhu Sikhi Chakra. I am aware of the Sakti
Pithams in Orissa but I have not yet visited below Kalighat and above Kancheepuram on the
east coast.
I am not writing to advocate any path. Be in your path with eyes open to see the Jyoti of
Jyotihsastra. Thats all. She made me do the work and she has jobs for everyone. This effort
to share my thinking with you is also her inspiration and my duty to her for giving me a glance
of her Jyoti. I feel guilty on the suspicion that whether my ego is acting or not? No ego, no
claim and no prophet as you wrote Her most humble servant.

K. Chandra Hari
chandrahari81@gmail.com