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Dailyroutineforjazz #114178205/20/0710:21AM
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FogVilleLad Insteadof"PatternsforJazz,"youmay
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Thesamegoesforvoicings.Takeavoicing Mostuserseveronline:
(twohandorLH)thatinterestyou,transpose 15,252@03/21/10
11:39PM
toallkeys.Startw/thecircleoffourths,
chromatically,upanddowninbothminor
thirdsandmajorthirds.Again,thiscanget
VERYTEDIOUSbutdowntheroadthehard
workpaysoff!
Backtothesolos/lines.Playthelineagainsta
lefthandvoicingtohearhowthese
solos/linessoundincontext.Eventuallyyou
wanttoprogresstoplayingthesolos/lines
withbothhands,twooctavesapart..ala
PhineasNewborn,GeoffKeezer,Oscar
Peterson....thisanadvancedconcept....make
sureyou'resolidwiththevoicing/linefirst.
Practicethisalternatinginandoutoftime,
eventuallystrivingforINTIME.Startvery
slowandlegato!!!!
Makesureyouarelearningtunes!(standards
andjazztunes)Practicew/ametronomewith
theclickon2and4.ThisisVERYIMPORTANT
todevelopingaswingfeelearlyon.
Forthosenewtojazz,Irecommendstarting
at5660=halfnote(felton2&4).
Ifyoucan'tplaylines/solos,comp,playsolo
INTIME.....SWINGING......alltheinfo/books
inworldmeanNOTHING.
THISistheMOSTIMPORTANTCONCEPTto
graspearlyon!!!(AsDukeEllingtonsaid.."It
don'tmeanathing....")
YoucanmakeaLOTofPROGRESSina
year...IFyouarepracticingtheRIGHT
STUFF!!Twohoursadayisalot,ifspent
productively!....takethisfromsomeonewho
wastedafewyearsearlyinlife"spinninghis
wheelsinmud"
Morelateronsuggestedmateriel.
PLAYINTIME..TRANSPOSEEVERYTHING!!!!
(Sightreadingisalwaysverygood...alotof
jazzpeople,evenprosneglectthisarea)
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Re:Dailyroutineforjazz #114178705/21/0701:42AM
Pete Therearesuggestedpracticeroutinesworth
the lookingatintheappendixofExploringJazz
bean PianoVol.2byTimRichards
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pianojazz There'snothingwrongwithwhathasbeen
saidabove,butIthinkthemostimportant
FullMember thingisLISTENING!BythatImeanget
someCDsofyourfavoritejazzplayers,pick
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01/10/06 tunethewaytheyplayit,thenplayalong
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slidemasterx Thanksforallyoursuggestions.Atthe
moment,Idoalotoflistening.About
FullMember practicingtunes,I'vethoughtaboutthat
butIdecidedthatwhenIgetthrougha
Registered: fewchaptersof"Jazzkeyboard
01/20/07 harmony"thenthat'sthetimewhenI'll
Posts:28 startmemorizingtunes.
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Par Listening,imitating,transcribing...
FullMember
Findexacttranscriptionsofyourfavorite
tunes&studythem.

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beingabletoplayinanykey.
Loc:S.
California
TakenoteofRH/LHpatterns/voicingsyoulike
touseandpracticetheminallkeys.
Useametronomeforrhythmpractice.
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swingal Ihavealsosaidonmanysimilarpoststhat
listeningisthefinestwaytolearningto
1000Post developastylethatyoulikeinjazz
Club improvisation.Youcouldcopystylesofyour
Member choicethen.Ifyoureadmusic,thereare
plentyofgoodtranscriptionsavailablefrom
Registered: manyposts,ontheseforumsforjazzplayers.
07/31/05 Thoughintheendyouneedtodevelopa
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Loc: available.Seeotherpostsbyme.Thereisno
England needtocomposeyourownrendition,justre
hashoneofthemasterpieceswithyourown
interpretation.
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swingal Toaddtotheabove.Seemypostonthis
nonclassicalforumontheBillDobbinstopic.
1000Post IfyougettheDVDyouwill,Ithink,be
Club amazed.Heexplainsbyplaying24
Member variations,coupledtothemostinfluential
pianistsfromthebeginningofjazztothe
Registered: presentday,basedonthesong'AllOfMe'The
07/31/05 manisagenius.
Posts:1094
Loc: Aswithmostartforms.Ibelieveitisnota
England subjectoneistaughtwiththeexceptionof
basichand,earandmemory,tohelpnatural
development.
Anyartist,andinourcasemusic,isinmy
opinion,somethingyounaturallyacquirefrom
oneormoreofthesensesandinmusical
terms,theears.Thisisanartformandnoneof
uscanknowwhatthenextpersoncanhear,
taste,feelorthink.Thesearemattersthat
prevent,completeteaching,ofanartform.
Wecanbeadvisedandgivenphysicaltraining
buttheartofmusicisintheperson'smind
andemotionalsenses.Isthatright?
Somefamousmusicianshavegivenindepth
lecturesandtheseoftenshowthegreat
mindstheyhave.Soallinallifwefeelthese
naturalurgesandsensethevibrationsof
musicwearelucky.Bynomeanshaveallof
usgotthatsense.Weseethisallthetime
withthewaysomefolkhaveverylow
attentiveloveofmusic.Wewholoveit
passionatelyareblessed.
Alan.
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Dave CheckouttheBillDobbinsbook:
Ferris
1000Post "ACreativeApproachtoJazzPIano
Club Harmony"...AdvanceMusic.
Member
BasedonClareFisher'sharmonicmethodof
Registered: improvingchordvoicings.
03/12/07 Canbeveryadvanced,theearlychaptersare
Posts:1859 certainlywithinreachforanintermediate
Loc: student.
Glendale,
Ca. Thisisalifetimestudytypebook...I'vebeen
onpg.96foralmostayearnow.
Highestrecommendation!!!!!
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jwjazz Whydoeseveryonesaytogettranscriptions
ratherthandothetranscriptionyourself?This
FullMember islazyandyoudon'tdevelopyourearor
absorbthevocabularyasmuch.Bestadvice
wasgivenbydaveferrisandpianojazz.
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ktom Iagreewithjwjazzabove..thereissome
FullMember greatadvicehere..wishIhadsomeofit
manyyearsago!Iwouldjustliketoadda
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05/07/07 =onefromme"jazz"includesahugerange
Posts:212 ofstylesfindwhatyouenjoy!
Loc: =onefrommylategreatpianoteacherwho
Somerset taughtmeclassicalbutinspiredmefora
UK lifetimewithhisawesomejazzingthelast
pieceofadvicehegaveme,infact"Ican
seeyouknowthesoundyouwant..keep
playingandit'llcome".
=andfinallyonefromIamnotsurewhere
"feelwithouttechniqueisjazztechnique
withoutfeelisnotes"
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Dave Thiswholethreadisgood,butlimitedinmy
Ferris opinion.
1000Post
Club Youcanonlyverbalizesomuchoveran
Member internetforum.
Registered: Aartformasdeepasjazzimprovisation
03/12/07 requiresoneononeinteractionfromagood
Posts:1859 teacherandmanyyearsofplayingw/the
Loc: rightmusiciansandlisteningtotheRIGHT
Glendale, stuff.
Ca.
Icouldbecommunicatingw/someoneabout
whattoworkon...butwithouthearingwhat
levelthispersonisatrendersalotofthis
adviceuseless.
Canyouswing?Playintime?Howdoyou
compbehindsoloists?Haveyouevereven
playedw/arhythmsection?Canyouyouplay
uptempo?Howisyourballadplaying?How
aboutLatinor3/4?Doyouknowanytunes?
How'syourreading?Howareyouw/singers
?....Thisisrealworldstuff.
Withoutalotthisinfoorsomeonehearing
youplay....well....Idon'tknow.
PLAYINGWRITTENPIANOTRANSCRIPTIONS
DOESNOTMAKEYOUAJAZZPLAYER!
ITISNOTIMPROVISING!!!!
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jwjazz Justtorecaptheinitialpost:
Quote:
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Originallypostedbyslidemasterx:
Ijuststartedgettingbackinto
pianoplayingafter3yearsandI'm
alsofairlynewtojazz.
Registered:
06/02/07 Iwaswonderingwhatagooddaily
Posts:278 routinewouldbeforpracticing
Loc:New jazz.Iwasthinkingofdoing30
York minssessionsof:

1.scalesfromJerryCoker's
"Patternsforjazz"

2.SightreadinganythingIcanfind

3.Studying"JazzKeyboard
Harmony"byPhilDegreg

4.DoingexercisesfromTim
Youaremissingthemostimportantthing
whichisapplyingyourstudyexercisestoa
realplayingsituation.Youactuallyhaveto
practiceplayingtunesandimprovising,and
playingwithothermusiciansisindispensible.
Also,mostoftheseguyswhowrotethose
booksdon'thaveanyrecordingsout.That
saysalot.
Gocheckoutthemasters,becuasethese
guysarenotadirectsource.
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Kreisler Um...herearePhilDeGreg'srecordings:

http://phildegreg.com/recordings.html
AndTimRichard'swebpagelistsseveral
recordingsaswell:

Registered:
http://www.timrichards.ndo.co.uk/
11/27/02
Posts:
AndBillDobbinsseemstokeepbusyaswell:
13837
Loc:Iowa
http://www.esm.rochester.edu/faculty/?id=90
City,IA
SoI'mnotsurewhatyoumeanby"mostof
theseguyswhowrotethosebooksdon'thave
anyrecordingsout."Seemstometheyall
haveprettydecentperformingcareers.
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Dave AfterrecievingmorethanafewPM's.,I
Ferris thoughtImightlistafewsuggestionsfor
1000Post dailypractice.
Club
Member Ihaveusedthesebooksfrequentlyin
conjunctionwithtranscribedsolosoverthe
Registered: past25yrs.orso.Ifeeltheyareone
03/12/07 importantpartofabuildingblockto
Posts:1859 becomingabetterjazzimproviserandhelpful
Loc: innavigatinganygenreofmodernjazz.
Glendale,
Ca. Innoparticularorder:
MARKLEVINE
"TheJazzPianoBook"
"TheJazzPianoBook"
"TheJazzTheoryBook"...botharegood
placesforbeginner/indermediatetobegin.
"JazzPianoMasterclass...thedrop2book"
SherMusic
JIMMCNEELY
"TheArtofCOMPING"(niceplayalongCD
included)AdvanceMusic
DAVIDBERKMAN
"TheJazzMuscian'sGuidetoCreative
Practicing"
greatnewwaystolookatGiantSteps
InpirationalandRECOMMENDED!
SherMusic
LUKEGILLESPIE
"II/V7/IVoicingsforKeyboardists"
JameyAebersoldJazz
JEFFGARDNER
"JazzPiano..CreativeConceptsand
Techniques"
Aspiringstudentsaswellasseasonedpros
wouldhighlybenefitfromcheckingoutthis
voluminousresourcebook.(500pgs.)
Manymodernhipconcepts.Expensivebut
worthevery$!!HIGHLYRECOMMENDED!!
FrenchpublisherHenryLemoine...Thisis
somewhatofa"underground"book.TryCaris
MusicServices(upbeat.com/caris/)orthe
author'swebpage.
BILLDOBBINS
"ACreativeApproachtoJazzPianoHarmony"
Asstatedearlierinthethread,alifetime
methodtodevelopingcreativechordvoicings
andincreasingyourharmonicawareness.
HIGHESTRECOMMENDATION!!!
"HerbieHancockClassicJazzCompositions
andPianoSolos.
"ClareFisherAlonetogether/JustMe...solo
pianoimprovisations"
Arguably,thegreatestjazzpianotranscription
featever!
OnewayI'veusedthisbook,istotakelittle
segmentsofoneortwochordvoicingsthat
sparkaninterest,transposetoallkeys,move
aroundthecircleoffourths,chromaticallyup
anddown,goupanddowninmajorand
minorthirds.BillhasthesevoicingsNAILED.
Prettyunbelivableonecouldcatchallthat
info.Greatvoiceleadingaswell.
HIGHLYRECOMMENDED!!
AllbyAdvanceMusic
WALTWEISKOPF
"IntervallicImprovisationTheModernSound"
"TheAugmentedScaleinJazz"(oneof
MichaelBrecker'sfavoritescales)
"AroundtheHorn21ModalScalesand
ArpeggiosEveryJazzMusicianShouldKnow"
"HIGHLYRECOMMENDED"
AllbyJameyAebersoldJazz.
JERRYBERGONZI
"InsideImprovisationforallinstruments"in7
volumes.Ihaveused:
VOL.2"Penatonics"
VOL.5"ThesarusofIntervallic
Melodies"...veryadvancedconceptson
visualizingnewlines.Notalwayspiano
friendlyduetowideintervals,butvery
inspiringw/allthe"earstretching"lines.
RECOMMENDED!
VOL.6"DevlopingaJazzLanguage"
Thetitlesaysitall.RECOMMENDED!
VOL.7"Hexatonics"
Studiesonpolychords..advancedlevel
HIGHLYRECOMMENDED!!
AllofGonz'sstuffbyAdvanceMusic.
DAVIDLIEBMAN
"AChromaticApproachtoJazzHarmonyand
Melody"
Alotof20thcenturyclassicalconcepts.
Includesavoicingcompendiumbythegreat
RichieBierach,aswellasalinecompendium
byDL.
Alotofthelineshaveverywideintervalsand
aregearedtowardssaxophone.Oneapproach
mightbetosplittheselinesupwithtwo
handstomaketheflowmorepianofriendly.
Advancedlevel.Earopeningmateriel
throughout.
RECOMMENDED!...AdvanceMusic
Asstated,manyofthesestudiesarenot
intendedforthebeginningstudent.Morefor
intermediate/advancedveryadvancedlevels.
However,withthehelpofagoodteacherand
hardwork,Ifeelalotofthismaterielis
possibletoabsorbonanylevel.
Thesebooks,again,areonlyonepieceofthe
puzzle.Theirauthorswouldechomywords.
Theycannotreplaceyearsofhandson,
listeningandplayingexperience.Idon'tknow
ofanybookthatwillteachyoutoswingor
playw/deepfeelingandsoul.
Theyarevaluabletoolsinopeningyourears
andincreasingyourvocabularywithinthe
jazzidiom.
Toalotofyoufamiliarw/thejazzeducation
processmanyofthesetitleswillbealready
known.Hopefully,someofmysuggestions
mightsparkinterestw/peoplenewtothe
jazzworld.
Thesebooksarethetipoftheiceberg!
There'sawholeindustrybuiltaroundjazz
educationtoday,
books/instructionalDVD's/playalongs/etc.
Ihopethishelpsandkeeppracticing.
Theartofjazzimprovisationisabeautiful
thing.
DF
CODA:Cominglatethisyearorearlynext.....
"CreativeIdeasforPiano"byDaveFerris.
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