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mrplume: Is it purely via twitter or does an actual chat take place too somewhere online? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 19:41
ukedchat: #edchat - Join #ukedchat in 15 minutes "What are we doing to promote creativity in the
classroom?" 8-9pm BST - All welcome to join conv.
7/15/2010 19:41
colport: @chrisrat I think you have touched on a future #ukedchat debate there! I'll let you lead it!!!
LOL
7/15/2010 19:44
Baggiepr: RT @mrplume: Is it purely via twitter or does an actual chat take place too somewhere
online? #ukedchat (Anyone got an answer? )
7/15/2010 19:44
onewheeljoe: @Baggiepr just on twitter. Keep watching #ukedchat

7/15/2010 19:47
mrplume: Worked it out! #ukedchat At least I think I have. Twitter only by the look of it
7/15/2010 19:47
dughall: @mrplume Purely on twitter #ukedchat

7/15/2010 19:49
ianaddison: RT @ukedchat: Launched this evening, a #ukedchat flyer for you to print and pass to
colleagues / staff rooms... http://twitdoc.com/c/sec53w
7/15/2010 19:50
ianaddison: @mrplume best thing to do is use something like tweetdeck and add a column for all
#ukedchat tweets
7/15/2010 19:51
ianaddison: @vikh46 tonight 8-9pm there's a chat about creativity. are you in? click add column in
t/deck, type #ukedchat, watch them come streaming in
7/15/2010 19:51
colport: If you do not have Tweetdeck, then tweetgrid.com is very good for #ukedchat
7/15/2010 19:52
chrisrat: RT @ianaddison: RT @ukedchat: Launched this evening, a #ukedchat flyer for you to print
and pass to colleagues / staff rooms... http://twitdoc.com/c/sec53w
7/15/2010 19:52
ianaddison: just over 5 mins til we kick off #ukedchat little bit scary, it's gonna get busy, try and keep
up, but don't worry if you can't.
7/15/2010 19:53
dughall: #ukedchat coming up at 8pm. We'll be talking about creativity. Do join us.
7/15/2010 19:55
ukedchat: What are we doing to promote creativity in the classroom? - #ukedchat discussion led by
@ianaddison & @colport - 5 minutes to go (8-9pm BST)
7/15/2010 19:56
ianaddison: oh, what does a moderator do? promote discussion, ask and answer questions, maybe
argue with your points now and again #ukedchat
7/15/2010 19:57
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primarypete_: @colport i've been using twitterfall.com to follow #ukedchat

7/15/2010 19:57
imageryinmind: Am going to attempt to follow #ukedchat whilst on the M6. Could be interesting!
7/15/2010 19:58
colport: RT @primarypete_: @colport i've been using twitterfall.com to follow #ukedchat < A nice
way to follow. Thanks
7/15/2010 19:59
ianaddison: 3...2...1...Go!! What are you doing to promote creativity in your school? What does
creativity mean to you? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 19:59
colport: Welcome to #ukedchat this evening "What are we doing to promote creativity in the
classroom?"
7/15/2010 19:59
dughall: @imageryinmind Watch the road!!!!!! #ukedchat

7/15/2010 19:59
primarypete_: RT @ianaddison: What are you doing to promote creativity in your school? What does
creativity mean to you? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:00
chrisrat: RT @ianaddison: 3...2...1...Go!! What are you doing to promote creativity in your school?
What does creativity mean to you? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:00
janwebb21: RT @ianaddison: 3...2...1...Go!! What are you doing to promote creativity in your school?
7/15/2010 20:00
eyebeams: Can you define #cretivity as a separate generic quality or does it need to have a specific
context in education? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:00
iteachyear4: RT @ianaddison: 3...2...1...Go!! What are you doing to promote creativity in your school?
7/15/2010 20:00
colport: Are your schools really creative? Is it just limited to primary schools? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:00
Natty08: RT @colport: Welcome to #ukedchat this evening "What are we doing to promote
creativity in the classroom?"
7/15/2010 20:01
mrplume: #ukedchat Open ended tasks at Secondary level with minimal structure
7/15/2010 20:01
bevevans22: #ukedchat Well at our school we are changing our whole curriculum, teaching style &
planning style - more in line with the Foundation Phase
7/15/2010 20:01
ianaddison: @sausagekinguk can you be creative within a structure? #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:01
chrisrat: @imageryinmind noooo! watch the road, there will be no chatting going on if you crash!
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:01
largerama: As Head of ICT I ensure students in my school are exposed to the media side of ICT in
sizeable chunks #ukedchat
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7/15/2010 20:01
jasontbedell: RT @ianaddison: 3...2...1...Go!! What are you doing to promote creativity in your school?
7/15/2010 20:01
ecce1: perhaps we need to start with teachers being creative inhow they teach #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:02
colport: Does creativity mean just mixing subjects together? #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:02
ianaddison: @bevevans22 who started the change? a new head? why change? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:02
iteachyear4: Creativity is something that has to embraced by the whole school. Otherwise it's just a
great idea that never moves on #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:02
didactylos: #ukedchat I find it very ironic that we are going to talk about creativity whilst "Waterloo
Road' is on continuing to undermine public faith
7/15/2010 20:02
bevevans22: #ukedchat ...whole school topics, children asked what they would like to learn, thematic
learning with small groups and lots of choice...
7/15/2010 20:02
onewheeljoe: What do you value in the classroom. Are you looking for one right answer or many creative
possibilities? What ? did you ask? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:03
Julian3576: #ukedchat Must dash off... but will send a link showing how I started this term in my Y5
class in quite a creative way.
7/15/2010 20:03
damoward: using off- and online mind mapping and storyboards for planning creatively #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:03
eyebeams: Are there any common qualities to creativity in how people teach #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:03
Janeh271: #ukedchat use the PLTs, drama, such as forum theatre, mantle of the expert and have fun!
7/15/2010 20:03
Cgeo28: #ukedchat : staff collaborated on a new learning principle for our school - "to be creative in
all we do"
7/15/2010 20:03
colport: @dughall Are secondary schools still stuck in a subject based straight-jacket? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:03
largerama: @colport do u mean Do I do this cross-curric or within my dept? #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:03
iteachyear4: We had a whole Inset on creative curriculum but nothing changed, although I've tried to
make it more creative next yr in our year #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:03
primarypete_: #ukedchat to allow creativity to florish, you need to allow children to risk and fail with
grace.
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didactylos: #ukedchat creativity for kids has got to be 24/7 access so we have to use web 2
free/inexpensive tools with them
7/15/2010 20:03
ianaddison: can you be creative in a school that is in spec measures/satisfactory? or are you too
concerned with getting out of it? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:04
largerama: RT @damoward: using off- and online mind mapping and storyboards for planning
creatively #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:04
dughall: I think we can only have creativity with a high degree of pupil choice, involvement and
personalisation of the curriculum? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:04
bevevans22: @ianaddison We were moving towards it, new HT pushed it through. Want children to
believe every day is a creative day #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:04
colport: @largerama Yes, across different departments? #ukedchat Interested in the 2nd'ary
perspective.
7/15/2010 20:04
Sport_ed: open ended tasks are important-however it is vital students have skills to be able to select
creative ways of completing tasks #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:04
chris_1974: @dughall secondaries sometimes stifled by us being specialist - x-curricular less natural
for u #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:04
chrisrat: RT @ianaddison: can you be creative in a school that is in spec measures/satisfactory? or

are you too concerned with getting out of it? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:04
Julian3576: #ukedchat Turned my class into space mission control... http://www.facebook.com

/#!/album.php?aid=213316&id=608951350
7/15/2010 20:04
largerama: use lots of collab tools from ning to mindmeister to piratepad to design and thrash out
ideas #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:04
ianaddison: @bevevans22 what about staff that were opposed to it? what about staff stuck in their
ways? how did you work with them? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:04
ForesterJo: RT @bevevans22: #ukedchat our school changing whole curriculum, teaching style &
planning style - more like Foundation Phase - so are we
7/15/2010 20:04
chris_1974: @dughall i meant us, not u. #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:05
carolrainbow: Creativity involves 2 processes: thinking, then producing. http://bit.ly/UgRl2 #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:05
ecce1: we have to look at giving multiple options for how students demonstrate their knowledge
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:05
eyebeams: So elicitation using mind mapping, cross curricular, problem solving, risk taking just building
a list here #ukedchat
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dughall: @colport Not all of them. Maybe some departments better placed than others (but then
they're still 'departments...') #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:05
Baggiepr: ICT doesn't just settle for old tech or just nat curriculum. Moves to reflect new trends and
ways of being online citizens. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:05
didactylos: #ukedchat are we talking creativity as in expressing yourself creatively, or creativity as in

seeing things differently? Or both?
7/15/2010 20:05
Cgeo28: #ukedchat - trying to make SoW for dept less prescriptive - teachers to be more
creative/imaginative whilst still hitting skills and content
7/15/2010 20:05
ianaddison: RT @primarypete_: #ukedchat to allow creativity to flourish,you need to allow ch to risk

and fail with grace<teachers need to take risks too
7/15/2010 20:05
dughall: RT @primarypete_: #ukedchat to allow creativity to florish, you need to allow children to
risk and fail with grace. (and teachers!)
7/15/2010 20:05
bevevans22: @ianaddison There was a big staff shuffle. Some upset but recognised the need to move
forwards. Most people very enthusiastic #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:06
iteachyear4: RT @ianaddison: @bevevans22 what about staff that were opposed to it? what about
staff stuck in their ways? <-like in my school #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:06
ianaddison: @largerama and postits, whiteboards, scrap paper! #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:06
chrisrat: @imageryinmind phew!!! #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:06
dughall: Teacher confidence is crucial in promoting and maintaining creativity in the classroom. How
do we build this and keep it? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:06
carolrainbow: Innovation is the production or implementation of an idea. If U have ideas, but dont act on
them, U R imaginative but not creative #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:07
simfin: @didactylos good question. I assumed it was about learners expressing their
ideas/research etc. in a more creative way #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:07
colport: The problem with 'creativity' is the accountability. It is more formative than summative,
therefore not as easy to assess. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:07
dwsm: Being creative in secondary schools is possible but you have to be careful re control of the
class or it can descend into chaos #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:07
menjivar: Be creative takes time! RT: @carolrainbow: Creativity involves 2 processes: thinking, then
producing. http://bit.ly/UgRl2 #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:07
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janwebb21: RT @dughall: Teacher confidence is crucial in promoting and maintaining creativity in the
classroom. How do we build this and keep it? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:07
largerama: @dughall good point re teacher confidence #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:07
bevevans22: @ianaddison To be fair even the more skeptical wanted to go back to whole school
thematic approach #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:07
ianaddison: RT @simfin: Is creativity harder to assess than.. er.. 'normal' work? #ukedchat <can you
assess creativity?
7/15/2010 20:07
eyebeams: So people have to be more fluent in their roles more willing to adopt new ideas and
scenarios / planning? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:07
iteachyear4: Schools need to have confidence in the children to allow it to be child led. Risk that some
are not willing to take #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:07
Julian3576: #ukedchat finally reaping the rewards, great stories about astronauts stuck in space.
Experimented with seeds for sustainable food...
7/15/2010 20:07
colport: @dughall Teachers need to feel that they have permission to throw out old ideas.
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:07
ianaddison: @colport you can be VERY creative with QCA (or any) scheme of work #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:07
PeterT: I recon creativity = problem solving, alternative perspectives, imagining & communication
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:07
Natty08: RT @colport: How many colleagues still follow QCA Schemes of Work? :-( #ukedchat <---
not here!
7/15/2010 20:08
iteachyear4: @daviderogers totally agree - just get the comment that unless whole year group/school
does it, it's not ok! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:08
dughall: @damoward I love the media stuff you do at the CLC - very creative IMO #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:08
largerama: @dughall Gotta promote the successes that come frm creativity i guess #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:08
colport: @bevevans22 We did whole school performance/topic this term. Only happens after SATs
though :-( #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:08
SkoorBttaM: RT @carolrainbow: Innovation is the production or implementation of an idea. If U have

ideas, but dont act on them, U R imaginative but not creative #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:08
Baggiepr: @colport I still bump into lots of schools in Hants that follow QCA or close adaptation.
Staff express shock when I suggest change #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:08
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carolrainbow: @eyebeams That was simply a quotation - one person's attempt to define #ukedchat -
reflect / modify to improve, share, collaborate - all!
7/15/2010 20:08
Cgeo28: @colport : QCA schemes not useful, best to create own with staff collaboration and pupil
input #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:08
bevevans22: #ukedchat In our case there will be more 'hands on' learning across the school week and
very few subjects taught discretely
7/15/2010 20:08
sh1916: @iteachyear4 Also applies to Secondary! #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:08
colport: @ianaddison My point being that some colleagues use them to the letter. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:08
Elmlea1981: #ukedchat in my new school QCA seems the done thing- I'm planning on changing it and
also planning to incorporate global dimensions
7/15/2010 20:09
largerama: @colport doing more of this and wud like to extend even further but not easy in my school
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:09
john_at_muuua: AC Grayling remarked that further ed students should be made into good 'guests at a
party' not just academics. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:09
colport: RT @colport: @ianaddison My point being that some colleagues use them to the letter.
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:09
damoward: @dughall thank you! try to make things creative ict + (plus whatever) #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:09
ChrisFullerisms: @ianaddison not just taking risks but encourage environment in which errors are
accepted+ embraced- by erring we often learn more #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:09
didactylos: #ukedchat to encourage learners to be creative we need, as 'teechas' to model that

creativity - do we?
7/15/2010 20:09
dughall: @primarypete_ It needs watching, monitoring. Persistent failure = cpd/support/coaching

/modelling etc #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:09
dwsm: Abandoned QCA SOWs couple of years ago - totally rewritten curriculum to incorporate
APP and web 2.0 etc #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:09
janwebb21: @ianaddison #ukedchat I think that has a part to play in it - but sometimes it's that time to
sit and think, space for ideas to grow
7/15/2010 20:09
bevevans22: @colport 'Luxury' of being in Wales - no SATS and more opportunity to be flexible in your
teaching approach #ukedchat
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ForesterJo: #ukedchat creativity within a subject - chdn can find their own ways to present, explore,
investigate within a subject area or lesson
7/15/2010 20:09
largerama: @ianaddison agreed #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:09
jamesmichie: RT @ChrisFullerisms: @ianaddison not just taking risks but encourage environment in
which errors are accepted+ embraced- by erring we often learn more #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:09
daviderogers: @Cgeo28 we have a core activities column and then suggestions with lots of shared ideas.
Vital that people are supported #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:09
ianaddison: RT @PeterT: I recon creativity = problem solving, alternative perspectives, imagining &
communication #ukedchat <are ch given enough probs?
7/15/2010 20:09
colport: Does there need a complete culture change in some schools (both primary & 2nd'ary)?
Got to come from the top! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:10
vikh46: #ukedchat Having been thru special measures & out for 1 yr, creativity has taken a back
seat...we have recently revamped curriculum for '11
7/15/2010 20:10
largerama: RT @dwsm: Abandoned QCA SOWs couple of years ago - totally rewritten curriculum to
incorporate APP and web 2.0 etc #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:10
Cgeo28: #ukedchat : pupils will not be creative if teachers are not imaginative in their approach to
learning resources
7/15/2010 20:10
eyebeams: Creativity the ability to adopt a multi-faceted perspective in specific areas of activity and
thinking? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:10
simfin: @colport absolutely. As an Eng teacher i found the more creative th activity th longer &
harder it was to assess. loved it tho' #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:10
carolinebreyley: @ianaddison more than 10yrs ago now but I led sch out of sp meas by trying to introduce
more creativity, needed that change #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:10
didactylos: @simfin #ukedchat I don't think they are exclusive, maybe two sides to a coin - we need
both.
7/15/2010 20:10
Baggiepr: @ianaddison Some of QCA is so out of date. Some aspects need dumping and new
tech/web included in greater measure #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:10
ianaddison: why do we need to assess everything? if they do a rap, a play or a mime, does it matter if
not assessed? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:10
geraldhaigh1: When NC. was coming a head said to me, "I worry that we won't now be able to follow the
path where it leads". Is that a definition?#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:10
brookhouser: #ukedchat We hit this on our @schoolsandtech podcast. Europe and Asia ahead of US in
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creativity. Show us how it's done! http://bit.ly/bHHehv

7/15/2010 20:10
MattSL: There's a need for teachers to be liberated from curriculum constraints so they can be
creative in response to students needs #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:10
daviderogers: @iteachyear4 but the beauty is that small changes are far easier to get others to adopt.
:-) #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:10
dughall: It is not just about giving pupils a choice about what they learn but also how they learn and
how they present their learning. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:10
largerama: re ICT and technology - big factor is re creativity and learning is time to PLAY in
secondary #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:10
SkoorBttaM: anybody still stuck to doing a literacy and numeracy hour each day? can you do this and
be creative? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:11
didactylos: @janwebb21 both... being creative is not about limiting is it? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:11
Elmlea1981: RT @Cgeo28: #ukedchat : pupils will not be creative if teachers are not imaginative in their
approach to learning resources
7/15/2010 20:11
vikh46: #ukedchat I think it all depends on the ethos of the school, particularly SMT
7/15/2010 20:11
ianaddison: RT @janwebb21: #ukedchat are we talking creativity in teaching or empowering pupils to

be creators in their own right? <both!
7/15/2010 20:11
jamesmichie: RT @dughall: It is not just about giving pupils a choice about what they learn but also how
they learn and how they present their learning. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:11
Elmlea1981: RT @dughall: It is not just about giving pupils a choice about what they learn but also how
7/15/2010 20:11
hairysporan: a creative lesson tends to be more pupil lead about only 10 mins teacher talk in an hours
lesson #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:11
eyebeams: I think creativity might allow for being receptive to and exploiting serendipity #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:11
bevevans22: Children are given choice of how to present work. Although many choose a particular tool
first off they will try other things #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:11
colport: Does being 'creative' demand more from teachers as well? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:11
john_at_muuua: don't know if the model we use has a name, but the idea of a spiral curriculum, reinforcing
concepts, developing with the student #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:11
damoward: creativity needn't be tied to assessment; value is in engagement and cognition ("I made
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that" >= "I gotta C") #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:12
primarypete_: Needs to be a clear distinction between teachers building creative plans etc & teachers
planning for the dev of pupil creativity #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:12
janwebb21: #ukedchat @didactylos #ukedchat absolutely true! creativity is about giving space for
wings to fly
7/15/2010 20:12
ianaddison: @Cgeo28 but surely following any scheme will become dull after a while, needs to be
flexible, adaptable and up to date #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:12
daviderogers: @janwebb21 @ianaddison for sure Jan. What creativity isn't is technology only, in fact
often far from it #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:12
carolinebreyley: @ecce1 totally agree re students choosing way of showing own learning #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:12
largerama: @colport definitely harder work initially and to get students/school on board with it
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:12
dughall: RT @SkoorBttaM: anybody still stuck to doing a literacy and numeracy hour each day?
can you do this and be creative? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:12
didactylos: RT @Cgeo28: #ukedchat : pupils will not be creative if teachers are not imaginative in their
approach to learning resources YES!
7/15/2010 20:12
bevevans22: @ianaddison We do peer and self assessment in class at KS2 (also introducing to FP
soon) #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:12
jamesmichie: @MattSL True, u can teach the skills u wish 2 impart even if u pick topics that engage ur
students rather than sticking 2 syllabus #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:12
pwardle0910: RT @Cgeo28: #ukedchat : pupils will not be creative if teachers are not imaginative in their
approach to learning resources
7/15/2010 20:12
MattSL: Teachers & students need permission & confidence to take risks, trying new approaches.
'Failure' is always an option #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:12
ChrisFullerisms: RT @hairysporan: a creative lesson tends to be more pupil lead about only 10 mins
teacher talk in an hours lesson #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:13
primarypete_: RT @dughall: It is not just about giving pupils a choice about what they learn but also how
7/15/2010 20:13
colport: @john_at_muuua Can you provide an example (link) for the spiral curriculum you mention in
#ukedchat ?
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chris_1974: Functional Maths focus a good way to encourage creativity in sec. maths classroom.
Creative methods and solutions to real problems #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:13
vikh46: #ukedchat We are forced to spend all morning on Maths and Lit so being creative is very
difficult, particularly with PE and assemblies!
7/15/2010 20:13
ianaddison: i had a lesson where we invaded a class to teach about invasion and why etc, kids loved it,
could've gone wrong. Got to risk it! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:13
janwebb21: @daviderogers #ukedchat - with tech/non-tech, qca/non-qca approaches - it's HOW a

teacher is creative with what they have to do that can...
7/15/2010 20:13
janwebb21: @daviderogers #ukedchat bring it to life

7/15/2010 20:13
Baggiepr: Using ICT, need balance of curriculum that develops /mapped through child's time in school
and allows staff and kids to experiment #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:13
damoward: RT @chris_1974: Functional Maths focus a good way to encourage creativity in sec.
maths classroom. Creative methods and solutions to real problems #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:14
dughall: I think collaborative planning and team planning can really help. 'Creativity Champions'?
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:14
eyebeams: Perhaps creativity is about being constructively disruptive - about taking people out of
shared mores and comfort zones #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:14
sh1916: @ianaddison That sounds like a lot of fun too! #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:14
dughall: @ForesterJo Don't forget #ukedchat #tag :-)

7/15/2010 20:14
mynictle: Am following #ukedchat some great thoughts so far, sorry but don't seem to have much to
say as yet
7/15/2010 20:14
MattSL: @primarypete_ creative teachers leads to creative pupils #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:14
ianaddison: RT @dughall: It is not just about giving pupils a choice about what they learn but also how
they learn and how they present it. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:14
colport: @vikh46 This is always going to be the way whilst SATs are around. Do SATs stifle
creativity then? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:14
didactylos: @john_at_muuua #ukedchat 'the spiral curriculum' seems to be a more frequent idea that
is mentioned - I like the idea
7/15/2010 20:14
SkoorBttaM: Do you have to scrap the photocopier to be creative? #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:14
ianaddison: RT @vikh46: #ukedchat I think it all depends on the ethos of the school, particularly SMT
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<if head isn't on board, you're out of luck!

7/15/2010 20:14
bevevans22: #ukedchat I think any teacher who can go with the flow and is not afraid of going 'off' with
the children is a winner in the creative stakes
7/15/2010 20:14
daviderogers: @dughall great idea, especially if you use the more entrenched staff as the champions
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:15
colport: @ForesterJo Agreed. The leadership team need to 'sell' the vision to staff. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:15
iteachyear4: @daviderogers I guess, but you do still need the support from SLT #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:15
dughall: Creativity in the classroom is about establishing constructivist approaches (as opposed to
objectivist). #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:15
ianaddison: RT @hairysporan: a creative lesson tends to be more pupil lead +about 10 mins teacher
talk in an hours lesson #ukedchat <scares some tchrs
7/15/2010 20:15
Elmlea1981: RT @ForesterJo: RT @ianaddison: why do we need to assess everything? if they do a

rap, a play or a mime, does it matter not assessed? #ukedchat HERE HERE!
7/15/2010 20:15
MattSL: @colport depends on perspective. More creativity means more flexibility and
responsiveness, so possibly less formal planning #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:15
colport: Session reminder time "What are we doing to promote creativity in the classroom? "
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:15
janwebb21: @colport #ukedchatI think creativity needs staff to be absolutely secure in their own ability
to fly by the seats of their pants #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:15
primarypete_: @MattSL #ukedchat certainly helps - but I wouldn't say it always leads that way!
7/15/2010 20:15
eyebeams: So maybe an element of creativity in education specifically has plurality and variety as way
markers #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:15
vikh46: #ukedchat I think SATs do have some impact, and results at a more general level
7/15/2010 20:15
dwsm: Creativity is controlled chaos ;) Agree - but uncontrolled chaos dangerous & can undermine
hard won concessions re filtering etc #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:15
dughall: RT @eyebeams: Praps creativity is about being constructively disruptive - abt taking
people out of shared mores and comfort zones #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:15
jamesmichie: #ukedchat u have 2 foster a culture of creativity in the classroom - tech etc may be a part
of that but is not necessary.
7/15/2010 20:15
sh1916: RT @dughall: Creativity in the classroom is about establishing constructivist approaches
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(as opposed to objectivist). #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:15
nellmog: The need to be assessed often stifles student creativity...Then structures imposed for
teachers stifle their creativity...why? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:15
didactylos: #ukedchat, 7 plus years in a CLC where 'if you don't fail' you are not pushing the
boundaries - a lovely mantra.
7/15/2010 20:15
jamesmichie: RT @daviderogers: @dughall great idea, especially if you use the more entrenched staff
as the champions #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:16
eyebeams: Does Ofsted (in its present incarnation) stifle creativity? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:16
Elmlea1981: #ukedchat being creative involves taking risks without being scared of failure. Learning
from mistakes is key!
7/15/2010 20:16
hairysporan: being prepared to change the lesson at the drop of a hat is important if you are taking
creative risks.thinking on your feet #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:16
ianaddison: some subjects feature more creativity already, maybe we should focus on the others?
numeracy? science? PE? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:16
dughall: #ukedchat Gotta go :-( May get back before 9...

7/15/2010 20:16
MattSL: RT @dughall: I think collaborative planning and team planning can really help. 'Creativity
Champions'? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:16
iteachyear4: @nellmog Lack of confidence from above? #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:16
colport: @MattSL Would that be acceptable to OfSTED? #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:16
Julian3576: #ukedchat essential to create natural creative contexts to lead learning that pupils instantly
engage with, learning happens naturally.
7/15/2010 20:16
jamesmichie: @nellmog I think this is where we as teachers must get creative in what those
assessments r, 2 alleviate impact on creativity. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:16
daviderogers: @janwebb21 indeed. The anti qca etc debate misses the point. Creativity is about cherry
picking not reinventing the wheel #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:17
damoward: RT @didactylos: #ukedchat, 7 plus years in a CLC where 'if you don't fail' you are not
pushing the boundaries - a lovely mantra.
7/15/2010 20:17
eyebeams: Does creativity involve reconfiguring your environment and planning #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:17
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janwebb21: #ukedchat @colport @dughall - constructivism is the reasoning we can use to support
creative approaches - justification etc
7/15/2010 20:17
didactylos: RT @dughall: Creativity in the classroom is about establishing constructivist approaches

(as opposed to objectivist). #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:17
SkoorBttaM: RT @primarypete_: Needs to be a clear distinction between teachers building creative

plans etc & teachers planning for the dev of pupil creativity #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:17
ianaddison: @mynictle are you not creative? how do you promote it in your school? every tweet is
valued! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:17
carolinebreyley: @bevevans22 @colport am also appreciating "luxury" of now working in Scotland; new
curriculum encourages creative approaches #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:17
damoward: @didactylos well said Roger #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:17
BigWildy: @eyebeams totally agree, teach on the edge! #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:17
primarypete_: @eyebeams think with Ofsted - it very much depends on which team you get! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:17
Natty08: People are too concerned with results etc. To give freedom to be 'creative' Often it is
allowed in a controlled manner! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:17
Cgeo28: #ukedchat : pupils can be put off being creative if they hear 'assessment' and 'levels'.
PLTS can be useful for monitoring progress
7/15/2010 20:17
brookhouser: Can assessment of creative pursuits be based on audience engagement rather than
grades? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:17
nellmog: @eyebeams yes because it scares SMT into putting in place rules for lesson planning and
structures. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:17
ecce1: @hairysporan Schools shouldn't be places where kids come to watch teachers work hard
all day - they should be doing the work #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:17
janwebb21: RT @nellmog: The need to be assessed often stifles student creativity...Then structures
imposed for teachers stifle their creativity...why? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:17
ianaddison: RT @SkoorBttaM: Do you have to scrap the photocopier to be creative? #ukedchat <no
p/copier can scan ch's work to let them create/explore!
7/15/2010 20:17
bevevans22: @colport To promote more creativity (and independent thinking): no 'hands up', more
emphasis to what children want to find out ... #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:17
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Elmlea1981: @eyebeams #ukedchat i think Ofsted do stifle creativity as people are afraid of the new
framework
7/15/2010 20:17
ForesterJo: RT @eyebeams: Perhaps creativity about being constructively disruptive - about taking
people out of shared mores and comfort zones #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:18
Natty08: RT @carolinebreyley am also appreciating "luxury" of now working in Scotland; new

curriculum encourages creative approaches #ukedchat < :D
7/15/2010 20:18
damoward: RT @colport: Session reminder time "What are we doing to promote creativity in the
classroom? " #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:18
isleofmandan: RT @damoward creativity needn't be tied to assessment; value is in engagement and

cognition ("I made that" >= "I gotta C") #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:18
chris_1974: @Natty08 but results *are* important; for students they can open doors in future.
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:18
Julian3576: Can assessment of creative pursuits be based on audience engagement rather than
grades? < Yep deffo! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:18
mynictle: #ukedchat not quite getting it - is it about saying what we do creatively or how to be
creative or both?
7/15/2010 20:18
jamesmichie: @ianaddison I don't believe it's abt the subject. I believe it's abt who is teaching the
subject. maths is creative if u make it. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:18
SkoorBttaM: RT @didactylos: #ukedchat, 7 plus years in a CLC where 'if you don't fail' you are not
pushing the boundaries - a lovely mantra.
7/15/2010 20:18
eyebeams: Does creativity involve a more non-hierarchical way of working within your environment?
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:18
ianaddison: quick q...can you think of a time when you've taken a risk and it didn't work? If you can't,
how can you teach risk taking to ch? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:19
hairysporan: @eyebeams very much so we are currently under training to pass ofstead in
sept/oct...scares people into playing safe #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:19
Baggiepr: Showcase the tech and then allow kids to find uses for it and go out of your way to let
them carry out some of their ideas. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:19
janwebb21: @nellmog so should learning be aboaut the assessment? and if it is then we need to do
something about the assessment #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:19
carolrainbow: @eyebeams I think teachers are fearful of letting go when being observed - especially for
OfSTED - maybe internal monitoring too #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:19
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nellmog: @jamesmichie definitely agree though we both teach subjects where creativity is actively
embraced as part of the curriculum #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:19
Natty08: @chris_1974 yes but the fear of not getting the results by 'letting go' stifles creativity! If
that makes sense?!? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:19
primarypete_: RT @ianaddison: quick q...can you think of a time when you've taken a risk and it didn't
work? If you can't, how can you teach risk taking to ch? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:19
vikh46: #ukedchat I think the pressure of utilising frameworks, sticking to timetables & ensuring
every child makes prog in every lesson hinders us
7/15/2010 20:19
josepicardo: problem with creativity is that it's an inherent characteristic, not an acquirable skill... can
you *learn* to be creative? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:19
jamesmichie: @eyebeams 2 truly embed creativity u need 2 throw the rule book out of the window!
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:19
bevevans22: @ianaddison You've got to take risks sometimes although it doesn't always go the way
you expect #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:19
Cgeo28: @jamesmichie - good point it is about who is teaching, it's also about how we support staff
- sharing ideas is vital #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:20
janwebb21: RT @bevevans22: @ianaddison You've got to take risks sometimes although it doesn't
always go the way you expect #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:20
ianaddison: RT @chris_1974: @Natty08 but results *are* important; for students they can open doors
in future. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:20
Julian3576: #ukedchat Wow would love to stay for this discussion... but really must dash...
7/15/2010 20:20
eyebeams: So how can you actively harness creativity - strategies? #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:20
daviderogers: @iteachyear4 true but getting pupils on board is more powerful then guerilla innovate.
Start small and convince slt with results #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:20
Elmlea1981: @ianaddison #ukedchat I took a risk in my recent observed lesson 4 interview- it went
wrong but i still got the job bcos i reflected
7/15/2010 20:20
sharland: #ukedchat arrived late - promotion of creativity in my class depends on allowing students
time to explore programs in their own time
7/15/2010 20:20
eyebeams: Should failure be seen as a opportunity for scaffolding learning? #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:21
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ianaddison: RT @vikh46: #ukedchat I think the pressure of ensuring every child makes prog in every
lesson hinders us <what if they don't sometimes?
7/15/2010 20:21
janwebb21: RT @bevevans22: @ianaddison #ukedchat>sometimes the best learning experiences are

the ones where we take risks
7/15/2010 20:21
bevevans22: In order to give pupils freedom to be creative you've got to have choices to hand (tech
wise: microphones, choice of software etc) #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:21
ianaddison: @bevevans22 totally agree, children need to see we are human too! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:21
jamesmichie: @nellmog true, but I've seen Media done very non-creatively. Any sub can b either
creative/non-creative due 2 who teaches it. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:21
Elmlea1981: RT @janwebb21: RT @bevevans22: @ianaddison #ukedchat>sometimes the best learning

experiences are the ones where we take risks
7/15/2010 20:21
chris_1974: @Natty08 absolutely. We need to be creative, have creative students, *and* get the
GCSE's / A levels. Creativity to raise results #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:21
ianaddison: @Julian3576 grab the archive tomorrow! #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:22
jamesmichie: RT @mrgpg: @jamesmichie @ianaddison #ukedchat ditto - people are creative, subjects
just "are"
7/15/2010 20:22
eyebeams: So one element of creativity may be longer time frames? #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:22
hairysporan: use more video evidence to assess creative learning in classroom sometimes difficult to
provide a hisorical record of activities #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:22
josepicardo: @eyebeams failure is just an opportunity to do better #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:22
chrisrat: #ukedchat is just the sort of thing that would get @jet1577 into twitter...if I could get her
away from Waterloo Road!
7/15/2010 20:22
ianaddison: @Elmlea1981 i too took a risk in my interview, totally threw the head and he said that
never happens. 'didn't take job in the end 'ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:22
primarypete_: @ianaddison @vikh46 #ukedchat can you have creativity based learning objectives /
success criteria?
7/15/2010 20:22
nellmog: @janwebb21 we definitely need to do something about the assessment to make it part of
the creative learning process #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:22
Janshs: @josepicardo #ukedchat I wonder if you can learn it? perhaps it's about creative *thinking
skills* ?
7/15/2010 20:22
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colport: @ianaddison Ooh, that sounds like the minister who said all schools should have
incompetent teachers! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:22
carolrainbow: @ianaddison They won't sometimes - no-one learns everything first time, repetition in
different, exciting ways is necessary #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:22
PTPIPaige: The proof is in the work! If you look at our online gallery of K-12 peace artwork - creativity
is important! http://bit.ly/14HJKx #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:22
Cgeo28: @bevevans22 #ukedchat - but sometimes tech can restrict creativity

7/15/2010 20:22
jamesmichie: @Cgeo28 Amen, & that SLT, other peeps of influence get behind that process! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:22
iteachyear4: @daviderogers Agree! My class have loved topic this term as I refused to follow the plan
and let them be creative #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:22
didactylos: #ukedchat in 'real life' how often is our creativity assessed by some inspector?
7/15/2010 20:22
Janshs: #ukedchat this is interesting http://www.fastcompany.com/1648943/creativity-the-most-

important-leadership-quality-for-ceos-study
7/15/2010 20:23
ianaddison: if you learn from previous experience, it is not failing #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:23
ChrisFullerisms: @eyebeams see there you're opening a WHOLE other debate- what is failure? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:23
bevevans22: Failure (occasionally) has to be an option - we all learn from our mistakes. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:23
janwebb21: @PeterT #ukedchat - true! sometimes a crisis means we have to be creative but planned
creativity needs to have TIME and Space for us to plan
7/15/2010 20:23
hairysporan: @eyebeams i like to think you can be very creative in short bursts of high energy and keep
the buzz going #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:23
MattSL: Teaching should provide a model of excellence, if my aim is to inspire creativeness & risk
then I must be creative & take risk #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:23
chris_1974: @Elmlea1981 when interviewing I prefer a risky lesson that goes wrong, to safe & dull, so
long as there is awareness of issues. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:23
superrobbo: @josepicardo it's about stimulating creativity. We are all creative in some way. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:23
iteachyear4: RT @ianaddison: if you learn from previous experience, it is not failing <- but what if you're
only given one shot? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:24
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jamesmichie: #ukedchat Sad that there's still such a "closed off" attitude 2 sharing ideas in schools.
Guess that is why some of us have ended up here!
7/15/2010 20:24
alisoniredale: RT @chris_1974: @Elmlea1981 when interviewing I prefer a risky lesson that goes wrong,
to safe & dull, so long as there is awareness of issues. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:24
nellmog: @jamesmichie agreed but do you have to be creative to enable creativity in your
classroom? or just enthusiastic and engaging?#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:24
iteachyear4: RT @Natty08: RT @bevevans22: Failure (occasionally) has to be an option - we all learn

from our mistakes. #ukedchat <---- agreeded!
7/15/2010 20:24
janwebb21: @bevevans22 I do failure exceptionally well! #ukedchat (must mean am capable of

learning a lot!)
7/15/2010 20:24
alisoniredale: RT @MattSL: Teaching should provide a model of excellence, if my aim is to inspire

creativeness & risk then I must be creative & take risk #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:24
cybraryman1: My Creativity page (please contribute on the Wallwisher): http://bit.ly/d0QYmz #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:24
Janshs: @ianaddison #ukedchat would loveto be able to do this in sec sch - open to ideas how
7/15/2010 20:24
eyebeams: @didactylos So although creativity invol imagination it helps by the structures for it to grow
being underpinned by authenticity? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:24
colport: Ok, so "What are we doing to promote creativity in the classroom?" Are we going back to
topic based learning? Mixing subjects? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:24
ianaddison: Want to follow everyone using #ukedchat? Visit http://blastfollow.com/ works a treat!
7/15/2010 20:24
daviderogers: @iteachyear4 that's the spirit! Sometimes others forget what it is we do :-) #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:25
Elmlea1981: @chris_1974 #ukedchat I take risks normally so i thought it was important to show my
usual practice- was for the best!
7/15/2010 20:25
bevevans22: @Cgeo28 Yes it can but if it's there, together with other choices, pupils can at least
'choose' it (and it's more inclusive) #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:25
pysproblem81: #ukedchat creativity is about identifying what you REALLY want to achieve and not being
afraid of something not going to plan
7/15/2010 20:25
largerama: RT @MattSL: Teaching should provide a model of excellence, if my aim is to inspire

creativeness & risk then I must be creative & take risk #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:25
Natty08: I think that we have to be allowed failure and because it doesn't work straight off doesn't
mean it won't #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:25
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hairysporan: the best creative learning i have seen is almost all peer driven #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:25
Baggiepr: RT @MattSL: Teach should provide a model of excellence, aim is to inspire creativeness &
risk then I must be creative & take risk #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:25
jamesmichie: @ianaddison if u build it, they will come! need to advocate/create alt curriculum/timetable 2
foster dif forms of learning. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:25
ianaddison: RT @didactylos: #ukedchat in 'real life' how often is our creativity assessed by some
inspector? <how many of us are creative in 'real life'
7/15/2010 20:25
josepicardo: not sure you can learn to be creative any more than you can learn to be tall or intelligent
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:25
pysproblem81: RT @ianaddison: if you learn from previous experience, it is not failing #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:25
Elmlea1981: RT @pysproblem81: #ukedchat creativity is about identifying what you REALLY want to
achieve and not being afraid of something not going to plan
7/15/2010 20:25
ianaddison: so...ofsted are in. Do you be creative or play it safe? #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:26
janwebb21: @ianaddison @eyebeams #ukedchat time for teachers to consider, play around with
ideas, develop creative plans as well as teaching time
7/15/2010 20:26
damoward: #ukedchat surely learning environment should promote creativity? seen great classrooms
for art, music, media, english. Why not math?
7/15/2010 20:26
Elmlea1981: RT @Baggiepr: RT @MattSL: Teach should provide a model of excellence, aim is to

inspire creativeness & risk then I must be creative & take risk #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:26
didactylos: #ukedchat there's such a thing as creative problem solving - so at times the parameters
are set and the approach needs a 'deviant' approach
7/15/2010 20:26
mynictle: #ukedchat creativity- use your voice, engage with being dramatic, make things up on their
level that they will remember-silly rhymes etc 1/2
7/15/2010 20:26
chris_1974: @Elmlea1981 if it hadn't been, you shouldn't work there. These things usually work out for
best. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:26
tj007: From comments so far, risk taking must be embraced by both teacher and pupils for
creativity to flourish. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:26
eyebeams: @josepicardo Perhaps you can learn pathways to bring out creativity and what to do with
the outcomes?#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:26
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colport: At the start of a topic, I get the children to mind-map what they would like to learn, then
deal with how we will go on journey. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:26
jamesmichie: @nellmog Think tht enthusiasm & engagement r at root of creativity, if u r disengaged how
can u b creative or foster creativity? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:26
janwebb21: #ukedchat it's getting near end of term - running around like mad to get everything done
that needs to be done def saps creativity
7/15/2010 20:27
ianaddison: RT @superrobbo: We are all creative in some way. #ukedchat <giving ch opp to find out
where/how they are creative
7/15/2010 20:27
alisoniredale: RT @damoward: #ukedchat surely learning environment should promote creativity? seen
great classrooms for art, music, media, english. Why not math?
7/15/2010 20:27
Julian3576: #ukedchat Science evidence based assessment... not teaching just for SATS
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=U-bL1jBLeHU&vq=medium
7/15/2010 20:27
largerama: RT @eyebeams: @josepicardo Perhaps you can learn pathways to bring out creativity and
what to do with the outcomes?#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:27
janwebb21: RT @tj007: From comments so far, risk taking must be embraced by both teacher and
pupils for creativity to flourish. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:27
Cgeo28: @bevevans22 #ukedchat - totally agree about not restricting choices, and in schools
where these minimal staff really have to be creative!
7/15/2010 20:27
Natty08: Within creativity the most important thing is reflection by both student and teacher. Alone
and together #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:27
superrobbo: RT @Natty08: RT @bevevans22: Failure (occasionally) has to be an option - we all learn

from our mistakes. #ukedchat <---- agreeded!
7/15/2010 20:27
chris_1974: Should show off best of what you normally do RT @ianaddison: so...ofsted are in. Do you
be creative or play it safe? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:27
deepwaterscoach: Another gr8 resource from this tweep! RT @cybraryman1: My Creativity page (please
contribute on Wallwisher): http://bit.ly/d0QYmz #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:27
daviderogers: RT @Cgeo28: @bevevans22 #ukedchat - but sometimes tech can restrict creativity >>>
for sure, it's not about the tech but the learning :-)
7/15/2010 20:27
chrisrat: RT @ianaddison: so...ofsted are in. Do you be creative or play it safe? #ukedchat <---
best to be yourself?
7/15/2010 20:28
Elmlea1981: #ukedchat do we model to chn the process of evaluating when something has gone
wrong? We need tbh with them so they understand the process
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bevevans22: @eyebeams As I said, our approach is different in Wales & all staff (where I work) are
involved in lots of training & development #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:28
vikh46: #ukedchat If Ofsted are in and children are engaged, learning and moving on through
creativity then you go for it!
7/15/2010 20:28
jamesmichie: @Natty08 Yes, at the watering hole & in the cave! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:28
ianaddison: RT @pysproblem81: #ukedchat creativity is about identifying what you REALLY want 2
achieve + not being afraid of something not going to plan
7/15/2010 20:28
eyebeams: So is one element of creativity informed mutli-options pathways and opportunities

facilitated by the teacher involving peers ? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:28
Baggiepr: Lets not do sub integration for the sake of it, just where it naturally fits. Too much forced
integration stifles creativity. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:28
ianaddison: RT @carolrainbow: Do children really fail? Or is each step on the road, however minor, a
success? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:28
hairysporan: it would be great to get pupils to do a creative learning #ukedchat from round the country
and watch the results
7/15/2010 20:29
iteachyear4: Topic plan was watch video-create factfile! We still watched video, but I let them present
the info they wanted, how they wanted #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:29
mynictle: #ukedchat go with the ideas they generate even if it's off at a tangent, tie in any real life
things, use their interest & what they bringin
7/15/2010 20:29
vikh46: #ukedchat With all lessons, it's the ability to act when things aren't going well and children
are lost that makes a good or o/s teacher
7/15/2010 20:29
ForesterJo: # ukedchat we going trial themes based on values rather than subjetcs / topics - e.g
belonging, respect not specific topic houses and homes
7/15/2010 20:29
alisoniredale: RT @carolrainbow: @eyebeams I think teachers are fearful of letting go when being
observed - especially for OfSTED - maybe internal monitoring too #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:29
PTPIPaige: A simple hello to all you UK teachers out there! We partner teachers in different countries
for exchange! http://bit.ly/16UQFL #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:29
damoward: @alisoniredale yes I agree - conformity doesn't mean cognition does it? ass'ment getting
in the way of creative flow...#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:29
Cgeo28: #ukedchat : to be creative pupils need to be inspired, this can only come about through a
relevant curriculum delivered by motivated staff
7/15/2010 20:30
alisoniredale: RT @carolrainbow: RT @SmileMakersInc: "You can’t use up creativity. The more you use,
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the more you have" Maya Angelou. More here http://om.ly/oOZN #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:30
bevevans22: @daviderogers No not always about the tech (it's not always appropriate) but choices are
important #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:30
ianaddison: RT @daviderogers: RT @Cgeo28: #ukedchat - sometimes tech can restrict creativity >>>
for sure, it's not about the tech but the learning :-)
7/15/2010 20:30
jamesmichie: @nellmog I know! ;-) I was just extending the point somewhat. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:30
vikh46: #ukedchat I think teachers need to be clear on what creativity is...is it just a fun lesson?
7/15/2010 20:30
chris_1974: #ukedchat RT @largerama: @chris_1974 if OFTSED in then u shud do what u normally do

in a 'high standard' lesson u normally put on
7/15/2010 20:30
janwebb21: RT @carolrainbow: @eyebeams I think teachers are fearful of letting go when being
observed - especially for OfSTED - maybe internal monitoring too #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:30
eyebeams: So can creative processes be "modelled" and scaffolded - is it teachable? Or are there
just elements that need to be recognised? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:30
Natty08: You shouldn't force everything in! If it fits yes if not no! It's not creative if it is forced!
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:30
iteachyear4: @ianaddison Well, if anyone here wants to offer me a job in a creative school..... :-)
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:30
mynictle: #ukedchat use their imaginations, give them a germ and then let them think about it
7/15/2010 20:31
ianaddison: RT @hairysporan: it would be great to get pupils to do a creative learning #ukedchat from
round the country and watch the results< Agreed!
7/15/2010 20:31
primarypete_: what strategies do you use to develop / support pupil creativity? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:31
janwebb21: @Natty08 HOW TRUE! #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:31
daviderogers: @bevevans22 totally agree :-) #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:31
josepicardo: you can learn strategies to make up for shortcomings - lack of creative talent can be
ameliorated by learning to think creatively #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:31
rantingteacher: @ianaddison I'm usually at my most creative when inspectors are in. Any chance to show
off! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:31
bevevans22: @ForesterJo We also take the values education route but that's not our 'topic' (just
something we focus on and link things to) #ukedchat
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carolinebreyley: @colport assume you mean CforEx. Is 3-18; some secs finding it harder to implement but
some fantastic egs of sec tchs embracing #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:32
jamesmichie: #ukedchat All tech related decisions shd b based arnd potential impact on learning. Surely,
the tech needs 2 add 2 the learning/creativity?
7/15/2010 20:32
ianaddison: RT @mynictle: #ukedchat use their imaginations, give them a germ and then let them think
about it< and talk about it and share
7/15/2010 20:32
colport: @primarypete_ I remind pupils that the tables and chairs are movable, and that anything is
possible within the classroom #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:32
josepicardo: talking from personal experience, not being a naturally creative person myself, my
creativity derives from the success of others #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:32
Elmlea1981: RT @colport: @primarypete_ I remind pupils that the tables and chairs are movable, and
that anything is possible within the classroom #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:33
daviderogers: @eyebeams one aspect would be to allow choice e.g. You can write, sing, dance, draw
etc as long as you tackle the issue #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:33
bevevans22: @primarypete_ Philosophy is good :) Thunks, unusual photos or texts for inspiration. Just
try and go for the spark! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:33
jamesmichie: @ianaddison And then spread the disease beyond the classroom, like a virus! ;-) creativity
shld b infectious. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:33
colport: @carolinebreyley I am personally really interested in how secondaries can utilise creative
strategies (I am primary based) #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:33
Janshs: RT @josepicardo: you can learn strategies to make up for shortcomings - lack of creative
talent can be ameliorated by learning to think creatively #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:33
nellmog: I think applying creativity in the classroom means throwing away the lesson plan when
something more relevant happens #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:33
Sport_ed: @primarypete_ student voice groups researching into teaching and learning strategies can
give useful insight #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:33
jamesmichie: @mrgpg Nicely put! #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:33
superrobbo: #ukedchat some subjects lend themselves 2 b creative. It's about letting kids express their
ideas & not feel awkward about them
7/15/2010 20:33
daviderogers: From experience you just have to let pupils loose for them to be creative, space to explore
rather than teaching #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:33
jamesmichie: RT @mrgpg: @jamesmichie #ukedchat need to ensure that the tech does not just
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automate the chaos

7/15/2010 20:33
hairysporan: take lessons out of the classroom and watch the pupils create more freely as they
"breakout" #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:33
Elmlea1981: @Natty08 I like that idea! #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:34
bevevans22: @primarypete_ we also have a 'flexible' curriculum - if a topic goes on longer than
anticipated just go with it #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:34
pysproblem81: RT @nellmog: I think applying creativity in the classroom means throwing away the lesson
plan when something more relevant happens #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:34
digitalmaverick: @ianaddison @carolrainbow - isn't that what Samuel Beckett called 'Failing Better'?
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:34
eyebeams: @josepicardo But that insight, in itself, could be seen as an element of creativity - i.e.
exploiting our perceived weakenesses? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:34
Cgeo28: #ukedchat - recently linked the geography and food tech depts, very creative outcome on
a plate
7/15/2010 20:34
PTPIPaige: Successful creativity = giving freedom w/ boundaries - finding a happy middle that allows
the students 2 feel safe but in charge. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:34
didactylos: #ukedchat is creative accountancy a creative thing - cos we're all gonna need to be pretty
damn creative for the next few years!
7/15/2010 20:34
tj007: Should I stop the pupils from writing in exercise books in order to see how they can show
their learning creatively? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:34
Baggiepr: Tech can restrict creativity but not having the choice of techs to use as well as other
methods restricts creativity even more #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:34
largerama: Use of sample work of those that show creativity can hav a wondeful effect #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:34
colport: I considered creating e-book as a creative strategy in pupils creating/showing off their
work. Works a treat for parents too! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:34
ianaddison: any tips on how to get staff to be more creative? "but we've always done it this way"
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:34
sh1916: #ukedchat as a secondary history teacher, I probably don't give much thought to 'creativity'
in planning. Maybe it's time for a change!
7/15/2010 20:35
carolinebreyley: @colport some egs on LTS website - will tweet link later for you when caught up!
#ukedchat
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Janshs: @carolrainbow important point; this is why obs should focus on the learning not the
'teaching' - if you see what I mean #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:35
chris_1974: kid told me last week they were kinathaetic learner so couldn't do task. I pointed out how
they could apprach problm kinsthtically #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:35
eyebeams: But is creativity freedom without constraint? #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:35
Elmlea1981: RT @PTPIPaige: Successful creativity = giving freedom w/ boundaries - finding a happy

middle that allows the students 2 feel safe but in charge. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:35
jamesmichie: @daviderogers Freedom breeds creativity? Not so sure! Freedom may also breed
boredom & apathy. Some sense of direction needed. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:35
janwebb21: RT @daviderogers: From experience you just have to let pupils loose for them to be
creative, space to explore rather than teaching #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:35
carolrainbow: RT @jamesmichie: ...creativity shld b infectious. I think it is - many teachers bring many
different facets that we can learn from #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:35
alisoniredale: Maya Angelou on creativity http://goo.gl/Cflt thanks to @carolrainbow #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:35
jamesmichie: RT @eyebeams: But is creativity freedom without constraint? #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:35
bevevans22: RT @colport: @primarypete_ I remind pupils that tables and chairs are movable, & that
anything is possible within the classroom #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:35
colport: RT @ianaddison: "but we've always done it this way" <Ooh I hate hearing this. It doesn't
make it right or good! Safety zone! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:35
chris_1974: point being they have expectations of certain things we / they need to unlearn #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:35
iteachyear4: @ianaddison Doing it yourself and then showing them the results/feedback from the
children. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:35
ianaddison: @tj007 yes, why does it need to be in an exercise book? for SMT? for ofsted? i'm more
creative on a whiteboard or scrap of paper #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:36
duckparade: RT @brookhouser: Newsweek: A recent IBM poll of 1,500 CEOs identified creativity as
the No. 1 “leadership competency” #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:36
hairysporan: @ianaddison get them in to teach other lessons get maths to teach food tech geog to
teach pe etc its fun we did it once #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:36
bevevans22: RT @hairysporan: take lessons out of the classroom & watch pupils create more freely as
they "breakout" #ukedchat <--Yes to outdoor learning
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jamesmichie: @carolrainbow Within in bubbles, e.g. Twitter, in the right school But too often only is
single classrooms not across the school. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:36
vikh46: #ukedchat I see creativity in other schools, but can never see how it would fit in with the
expectations of our school
7/15/2010 20:36
Janshs: @damoward have you sen @TeachingIdeas? #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:37
nellmog: Adversity brings out creativity in teachers .Snow days with few students <some of my
most creative and exciting why<less risk? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:37
chris_1974: @ianaddison why use ex books. How often do children look back at work - even @ GCSE!
(A level probably more) #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:37
PTPIPaige: @ianaddison Complacent people can change with the right motivation - what do you think
the motivation is? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:37
damoward: @iteachyear4 commonly known to Art teachers as the Blue Peter presentation...
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:37
digitalmaverick: @jamesmichie I've seen/heard too many ppl say 'how can I use a wiki in my lessons?'
instead of 'a wiki wd b perfect 4 this lesson' #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:37
colport: I think that technologies offer a great resource for creativity. You do not need to spend
loads of £$£$ with many freebies avail. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:37
josepicardo: RT @eyebeams: Creativity the ability to adopt a multi-faceted perspective in specific

areas of activity and thinking? #ukedchat I think so
7/15/2010 20:37
carolrainbow: @jamesmichie: ...creativity shld b infectious. I love watching creative teachers - learn from
them all! Try out ideas and pass on #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:37
janwebb21: RT @colport: I think that technologies offer a great resource for creativity. You do not
need to spend loads of £$£$ with many freebies avail. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:38
colport: @vikh46 I maintain it needs direction from the top. Where there is a will.... #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:38
eyebeams: @ianaddison - put them in a non-threatening "new" environment that forces them to reflect
on practice #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:38
largerama: @nellmog did that for part of today when picked up http://bit.ly/aOvxyd other day and
related it to sound video work being done #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:38
malcolmbellamy: creativity is the essential 21st century skill #ukedchat

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daviderogers: @jamesmichie that comes from the task and enthusiasm. Also - if no engagement the
consequence is no fun. They soon come round :-) #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:38
Elmlea1981: RT @carolrainbow: @jamesmichie: ...creativity shld b infectious. I love watching creative

teachers - learn from them all! Try out ideas and pass on #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:38
bevevans22: @ianaddison We are going back to blank books for our creative approach - no
worksheets. Blank paper available as an alternative #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:38
Natty08: The important things are skills - children ask questions, skills are easily fixed in to answer
those questions. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:38
iteachyear4: RT @chris_1974: @ianaddison why use ex books. How often do children look back at
work ? <-Exactly! How much does it add? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:38
colport: @carolrainbow I agree with you, but have known people to be scared of creativity like
that. Some people stuck in mud? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:38
janwebb21: @colport and it's so important to be creative about the free tools we use in the current
economic climate #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:38
ianaddison: @chris_1974 #ukedchat sometimes they do, but most they don't. It's a paper exercise to
prove you;ve done the work
7/15/2010 20:39
carolrainbow: @Janshs: I agree - but many still worry about perceived chaos rather than learning :-(
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:39
largerama: RT @colport: @vikh46 I maintain it needs direction from the top. Where there is a will....
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:39
Janshs: RT @josepicardo: RT @eyebeams: Creativity the ability to adopt a multi-faceted

perspective in specific areas of activity and thinking? #ukedchat I think so
7/15/2010 20:39
Alex_Wilson_: Changing teachers short term motivation to be creative is easier, stopping going back to
old ways more difficult #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:39
PTPIPaige: Agreed! RT @carolrainbow: @jamesmichie: ...creativity should be infectious. #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:39
ianaddison: @digitalmaverick totally agree, start with what you want to achieve, then choose the tool,
don't let tool dictate #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:39
Natty08: @bevevans22 We use lots of blank paper - it is really interesting to see what they do with
it #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:39
janwebb21: RT @rantingteacher: AbsolutelyRT @nellmog ..applying creativity in the classroom means

throwing away lesson plan when something more relevant happens #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:39
colport: @bevevans22 I have seen a teacher using blank books for maths work (in Y5 class) - It
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was incredible, showing creativity in maths! #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:39
malcolmbellamy: creativity is about options for example how many different ways can we use a piece of
string? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:39
ianaddison: RT @nellmog ..applying creativity in the classroom means throwing away lesson plan when
something more relevant happens #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:39
iteachyear4: @damoward haha - must remember that! #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:39
daviderogers: One of the most creative things I've seen is when I banned paper, pens and computers.
E.g maps created with litter #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:39
eyebeams: @digitalmaverick - So maybe engagement and expertise needs to underpin creativity as

baseline qualities - curiosity and play too #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:39
Janshs: @carolrainbow sad but true #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:39
bevevans22: Let's not forget the learning should always come first - not shoe-horning in ideas just to use
something 'whizzy' or look cool #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:40
Elmlea1981: @Alex_Wilson_ #ukedchat I totally agree - sustainability is the biggest issue!

7/15/2010 20:40
chris_1974: @rantingteacher there's a certain confidence that (maybe) comes with experience needed
to chuck away the planning. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:40
colport: @vikh46 Totally. Staff need to see others clearly showing the way. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:40
didactylos: #ukedchat even 'exercise books can be creative - I consider Evernote to be the modern
version of an exercise book
7/15/2010 20:40
daviderogers: RT @bevevans22: Let's not forget the learning should always come first - not shoe-horning
in ideas just to use something 'whizzy' or look cool #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:40
jamesmichie: @carolrainbow Question remains then: How do we get teachers who r not like us 2 take
up the creative/risk laden bandwagon? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:40
carolinebreyley: I think a creative approach when we don't know all the answers before we start can help
involve parents 1 #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:40
largerama: Threads frm day-day developmts fed by Twitter, RSS feeds from various , the News,
YOutube etc gives creative angles, talkin pts #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:40
ianaddison: @bevevans22 i did loads on w/board, less marking, ppl thought i was lazy, but my ch knew
LOTS and could remember and share it #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:40
Natty08: Giving children freedom is a huge thing! Record how they want, use what they want etc.
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They often have better ideas than me! #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:40
largerama: RT @Alex_Wilson_: Changing teachers short term motivation to be creative is easier,

stopping going back to old ways more difficult #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:40
bevevans22: @geraldhaigh1 I remember being in that sort of school environment and I loved every
second #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:40
tj007: RT @carolrainbow: creativity shld b infectious. I love watching creative teachers - learn
from them all! Try out ideas and pass on #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:41
colport: @didactylos Absolutely, when the tech is working reliably! #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:41
iteachyear4: @bevevans22 agree, but learning has to move on. They are 'wired' differently to us!
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:41
ianaddison: are teachers scared of being creative because it sometimes looks like children are off
task/misbehaving? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:41
Baggiepr: RT @daviderogers: Most creative things I've seen is when I banned paper, pens and
computers. E.g maps created with litter #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:41
Janshs: @chris_1974 nope it's jolly hard http://kn.open.ac.uk/public/document.cfm?docid=12916

#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:41
dughall: #ukedchat. Right I'm back. What have I missed? ;-)

7/15/2010 20:41
Cgeo28: #ukedchat : exercise books should showcase creativity, not only be used to answer
questions from text books!
7/15/2010 20:41
carolinebreyley: #ukedchat parents can see that their help/supportive/expertise is valued

7/15/2010 20:41
alisoniredale: @damoward Try reading Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience by - wait for
it...Mihaly Csikentmihalyi #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:41
hairysporan: try to show pupils a free simple tech app per week from the web and allow them to play
with it. pupils now use them in lessons #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:41
eyebeams: So, to be specific, what strategies could promote creativity in the classroom day to day?
#ukedchat exemplars?
7/15/2010 20:41
jamesmichie: @daviderogers "Fun" is a loaded word, sits alongside boring. Learning needs 2 b engaging
not fun, there is a subtle diff/ #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:41
bevevans22: Our Y4 pupils have spent a whole term on a school musical (Hansel & Gretel) and every
lesson has come from that !!! #ukedchat
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vikh46: #ukedchat How many courses have colleagues been on recently which model a creative
approach within a structure (and not just odd lessons?)
7/15/2010 20:41
colport: 20 minutes remain "What are we doing to promote creativity in the classroom? " What are
YOU doing? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:42
Janshs: at my school we are trialling lesson obs based on learning and what stdts have said makes
a good leson #ukedchat (@carolrainbow)
7/15/2010 20:42
geraldhaigh1: @Alex_Wilson_ #ukedchat That's right. Has to become sustained and embedded, not
treated like an end of term or post-SATS treat.
7/15/2010 20:42
ianinsheffield: @josepicardo Surely we're all creative in *some* way? Key is providing opportunities for
all to shine #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:42
ianaddison: @Natty08 @bevevans22 blank paper can be scary sometimes too! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:42
Natty08: People have to realise that there is noise and active noise - both look the same but are
TOTALLY different #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:42
tj007: I love showing off something creative to other teachers - I hope that the passion and ideas
will rub off and they will reciprocate #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:42
didactylos: #ukedchat we are naturally programmed to use play/creativity as our mode of learning,
schools are therefore often unnatural habitats
7/15/2010 20:42
iteachyear4: @Natty08 Exactly - they have ideas that are sometimes completely out there, but genius
when you look back at them! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:42
carolrainbow: @jamesmichie Modelling, mentoring, small steps, planning with them I guess modelling is
the best, let them experiece the excitment #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:42
PTPIPaige: RT @colport: 20 minutes remain "What are we doing to promote creativity in the
classroom? " What are YOU doing? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:42
ForesterJo: #ukedchat as my 7 year old daughter put it "magpie good ideas" - surely watching other
creative teachers inspires your own creativity ?
7/15/2010 20:42
jamesmichie: @ianaddison Not on FB but I would hazard a guess at a significant amount. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:43
child1st: RT @didactylos: #ukedchat we are naturally programmed to use play/creativity as our

mode of learning, schools are therefore often unnatural habitats
7/15/2010 20:43
katie_hague: Sorry if repeating - joining late. We had ace training on developing creativity, it gave us
'permission' for poor results at 1st. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:43
nellmog: @jamesmichie we need ofsted (and others) to recognise the value of creativity in teaching
and learning then it would not be a risk #ukedchat
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7/15/2010 20:43
bevevans22: @iteachyear4 True, but they should still be learning (even if they don't realise it) - there
should be an objective somewhere!!! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:43
SkoorBttaM: RT @colport: RT @ianaddison: "but we've always done it this way" <Ooh I hate hearing
this. It doesn't make it right or good! Safety zone! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:43
hairysporan: @dughall lots :-) #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:43
Natty08: @ianaddison not when they are used to it! Prompts around the class can help :) #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:43
Elmlea1981: @ianaddison I think the 'off task' issue definitely prevents some tch from having a go- they
are used to passive learners in class #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:43
largerama: How about I giv u all a real eg- http://youtu.be/GMeHiEysbOo Only remit: 45 secs min,
tool: vid cam, make advert w/sound. No help #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:43
ForesterJo: RT @ianaddison: @digitalmaverick totally agree, start with what you want to achieve, then
choose the tool, don't let tool dictate #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:44
ianaddison: are parents on board with creativity? were they given the chance to be creative? are they
worried cos it looks different? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:44
geraldhaigh1: #ukedchat The challenge for heads is to keep calm, let people off the leash and realise
that what look like far-out ideas are really OK.
7/15/2010 20:44
Joga5: Hi sorry late into conversation - could I introduce the idea of playfulness as supportive of
creativity? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:44
jamesmichie: @carolrainbow True, & team teach with them. This I think is often forgotten/ignored but
can be hugely powerful. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:44
colport: RT @carolrainbow: Modelling, mentoring, small steps, planning with them...modelling is the
best, let them experiece the excitment #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:44
malcolmbellamy: @IaninSheffield and finding our passion/element (Sir Ken Robinson) #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:44
janwebb21: @Elmlea1981 it's a control issue! and that's not easy #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:44
Natty08: Having all resources at children's finger tips is so important - think foundation stage style
classroom ;) #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:44
daviderogers: @jamesmichie I don't see the difference. Fun = engaging = worthwhile. All words are
loaded and word play often misses the point? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:45
Caro_lann: #ukedchat Ban paper for the day. Use string to make graphs/ diagrams on floor.
7/15/2010 20:45
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didactylos: RT @ForesterJo: #ukedchat as my 7 year old daughter put it "magpie good ideas" -
watching creative teachers inspires your own creativity ?
7/15/2010 20:45
ianaddison: @vikh46 i think my course is fairly creative / made up! #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:45
carolrainbow: @Janshs: at my school we are trialling lesson obs based on learning and what stdts have
said makes a good leson #ukedchat Brilliant Model|!
7/15/2010 20:45
iteachyear4: @bevevans22 Shouldn't there be many objectives in a real creative curriculum? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:45
colport: @didactylos Very relevant for secondaries and beyond. Not as relevant for primaries -
more reliance on school budget #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:45
bevevans22: RT @wjputt: RT @ianaddison: @Natty08 @bevevans22 blank paper can be scary

sometimes too! #ukedchat<-- Exciting too. SCARY IS GOOD :D
7/15/2010 20:45
janwebb21: @Elmlea1981 I mean, not easy to let go when a teacher is insecure #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:45
carolrainbow: @jamesmichie Yes and often there is expertise in school so can be done very cheaply
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:46
ITSCPDX: I'm building the ITSC 2011 conference in Portland itsc.oetc.org. Who do you want to
facilitate there? #edtech #education #edchat #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:46
Baggiepr: Pupil involvement in curriculum design is important. Great to see @gideonwilliams pupils
webcasting their hopes for ICT curriculum #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:46
iteachyear4: RT @Caro_lann: #ukedchat Ban paper for the day. Use string to make graphs/ diagrams
on floor. <-what a fantastic idea! Thank you!
7/15/2010 20:46
Cgeo28: @Joga5 : playfulness not a trait inherent in all teachers, but we should encourage this of
our pupils as would support creativity #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:46
daviderogers: @jamesmichie of course, we are not talking about a wholly 'free' curric. Creative learning
won't work for all #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:46
SkoorBttaM: RT @colport: @vikh46 Totally. Staff need to see others clearly showing the way.
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:46
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7/15/2010 20:46
ianaddison: RT @Natty08: Having all resources at children's finger tips is so important - think
foundation stage style classroom ;) #ukedchat<exactly!
7/15/2010 20:46
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ForesterJo: RT @Natty08: People have to realise that there is noise and active noise - both look the
same but are TOTALLY different #ukedchat HERE HERE
7/15/2010 20:46
chris_1974: Is there space for coaching rather than teaching, encourage independant thinking?
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:46
Elmlea1981: @janwebb21 #ukedchat Totally agree! COnfidence is a huge hindrance to creativity!

7/15/2010 20:46
eyebeams: @helenmyers - interesting #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:47
geraldhaigh1: #ukedchat And of course that same challenge for heads implies being able to let people
fail. (You have a plan B in a drawer somewhere)
7/15/2010 20:47
katie_hague: Giving children area to explore own interests in and just facilitating - very hard at first as it
feels like you're not teaching! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:47
hairysporan: example 1 pupil used ytube to do origami today 20 mins later the whole where creating
swans and having a go at complicated work #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:47
bevevans22: @iteachyear4 Of course, but an overall LO gives those who need it something to focus
on/aim for (unless you LO and Behold!) #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:47
janwebb21: RT @iteachyear4: RT @Caro_lann: #ukedchat Ban paper for the day. Use string to make
graphs/ diagrams on floor. <-what a fantastic idea! Thank you!
7/15/2010 20:47
Elmlea1981: RT @iteachyear4: RT @Caro_lann: #ukedchat Ban paper for the day. Use string to make
graphs/ diagrams on floor. <-what a fantastic idea! Thank you!
7/15/2010 20:47
josepicardo: is learning to be creative or think creatively the means or the end? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:47
PTPIPaige: >What are YOU doing?< We ask students to express themselves thru art - abt peace, abt
community http://bit.ly/c8DzbF (join us!) #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:47
dughall: @iteachyear4 Many objectives? Get kids to 'guess' what the objectives were at end of
lesson. (@timrylands LO & behold) #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:47
janwebb21: RT @chris_1974: Is there space for coaching rather than teaching, encourage independant
thinking? #ukedchat>how true
7/15/2010 20:47
rantingteacher: Sometimes I let the children design and choose their own task after reading a chapter of a
novel. They have AMAZING ideas #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:48
josepicardo: is it creativity for creativity's sake? ;-) #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:48
eyebeams: @chris_1974 - Stuff like debono's hats? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Thinking_Hats

#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:48
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colport: @didactylos Kudos. I do suspect that budgets are going to placed under a lot of pressure
in the near future though. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:48
carolrainbow: @iteachyear4 Sometimes it may be best to say what learning objectives were achieved in
retrospect - if it was good - loads #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:48
jamesmichie: @janwebb21 @daviderogers I thnk "fun" has bcm a wrd tht is associated w/ students who
r disengaged, want 2 b entertained! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:48
daviderogers: And let's not forget, not all staff are creative. So how we support them is critical.
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:48
islayian: How does WALT & WILF fit in with creativity #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:48
janwebb21: @chris_1974 I mean yes!!!! maybe the term "teacher" should be banned - facilitator ok
(tho harder to spell) #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:48
Elmlea1981: #ukedchat Got to go :( Some interesting ideas. May try banning paper for a day and see
what happens! Thanks guys
7/15/2010 20:48
largerama: RT @katie_hague: Giving children area to explore own interests in and just facilitating -
very hard at first as it feels like you're not teaching! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:48
iteachyear4: @dughall @bevevans22 Never heard of LO and Behold but like it! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:49
dughall: @hairysporan Awesome! #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:49
largerama: @katie_hague but worth it in the long run #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:49
jamesmichie: #ukedchat Creativity in the classroom is not abt entertainment. It is abt learning &
development.
7/15/2010 20:49
jamesmichie: RT @nellmog: @jamesmichie we need ofsted (and others) to recognise the value of
creativity in teaching and learning then it would not be a risk #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:49
ianaddison: RT @dughall: Get kids to 'guess' what the objectives were at end of lesson. (@timrylands
LO & behold) #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:49
malcolmbellamy: Puting the a into STEM (STEAM) creativity to support mathematics, technology and
science #ukedchat http://ow.ly/2c5sO
7/15/2010 20:49
didactylos: @dughall school I know fails your lesson if the objectives are not there at the start for all to
see! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:49
Natty08: Children can even write their own lesson objectives and teach the class - Scary but true!
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:49
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bevevans22: Sharing of ideas/best practice also key. Watching a really great teacher can be so
inspirational & get creative juices flowing #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:49
katie_hague: Can have knowledge and skills based objectives, but let children explore and develop
further #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:49
MattSL: @yrathro Encouraging students to be a different way & seeing advantages that may bring
leads to higher aspirations & attainment #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:50
rantingteacher: @ianaddison sometimes teachers aren't motivated because they are suffocated by
prescribed schemes of work #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:50
dughall: @islayian They don't (in my opinion) #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:50
daviderogers: @jamesmichie @janwebb21 very good point, hadn't thought of it from that angle :-)
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:50
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7/15/2010 20:50
eyebeams: @josepicardo - Maybe creativity is defined by its outcomes? In most areas of human
activity the arts sciences etc it seems to be . #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:50
chris_1974: @eyebeams yes - i think. #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:50
sh1916: RT @Natty08: Children can even write their own lesson objectives and teach the class -
Scary but true! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:50
carolrainbow: @eyebeams: @chris_1974 - Stuff like debono's hats? http://bit.ly/x9jJo #ukedchat Think I
had a bad experience with 6 hats - can't bear it ;(
7/15/2010 20:50
marketingjulia: RT @ianaddison: Want to follow everyone using #ukedchat? Visit http://blastfollow.com/

works a treat!
7/15/2010 20:50
ForesterJo: @katie_hague #ukedchat taking facilitator role can be whole new experience but
AMAZING what you see + hear when you do - Forest School !
7/15/2010 20:50
nyzzi_ann: Been drowning in a sea of paperwork and completely forgot about #ukedchat School
Development Plan.... done!
7/15/2010 20:50
primarypete_: RT @Smichael920: #ukedchat learning iscreative process.Shared r LearningLogs at

#bectabolton.Rparents luv creative approach 2H/W-fullyengage
7/15/2010 20:51
Natty08: The NC has all objectives / skills in it we need - use them nothing else to be creative - no
QCA, hours etc. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:51
hairysporan: get pupils to look at the learning outcomes at start of lesson. let them decide how they get
there i advise not teach #ukedchat
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7/15/2010 20:51
katie_hague: @largerama Absolutely! Children find out about things I never thought of - world cup
project had sculpture, cooking and fashion! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:51
digitalmaverick: Am currently learning a great deal about #creativity by watching 'The Man Who Moves
Builidings' #ukedchat - lateral thinking & never say die
7/15/2010 20:51
largerama: RT @ianaddison: Want to follow everyone using #ukedchat? Visit http://blastfollow.com/

works a treat!
7/15/2010 20:51
colport: RT @didactylos: @dughall school I know fails your lesson if the obs are not there at the
start for all to see! #ukedchat <Same for OfSted?
7/15/2010 20:51
chris_1974: @janwebb21 but do we still need to lead / guide, not just facilitate / coach? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:51
Natty08: @dughall You mean someone other than me does this?!? #ukedchat heehee
7/15/2010 20:51
janwebb21: @jamesmichie absolutely true - but sometimes learning doesn't need to exclued fun!
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:51
Cgeo28: RT @daviderogers: And let's not forget, not all staff are creative. So how we support them
is critical. #ukedchat < a flexible SoW helps
7/15/2010 20:51
ianaddison: @didactylos but why? why is it so important for ch to know objectives at the start? mix it
up! crazy isn't it? @dughall #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:51
daviderogers: @ianaddison @dughall @timrylands also let's you know if you have it right. Has to happen
for learning to bea mysterious adventure #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:52
eyebeams: @carolrainbow - Maybe it was too proscribed in the way people used it? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:52
Alex_Wilson_: RT @vikh46: #ukedchat Sometimes you don't want children to know what they are going
to learn because you want them to find things out..
7/15/2010 20:52
jamesmichie: @chris_1974 Think we need 2 do both. Sometimes we r expert / other times we are
guides who r going along 4 the ride! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:52
janwebb21: @chris_1974 facilitating doesn't preclude giving a map or an end goal to aim for #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:52
ianaddison: @Natty08 i had a y3 girl teach a maths starter, then she led a lower ability group. head
walked in, i was sitting on carpet. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:52
janwebb21: @chris_1974 but it's more about the journey #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:52
katie_hague: @ForesterJo Agreed, facilitatiing let me learn loads and children develop further, but goes
against instincts! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:52
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hairysporan: @ianaddison cos the man says so #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:52
bevevans22: RT @dughall: RT @Natty08: Children can even write their own lesson objectives and teach
the class <- happening here!!! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:52
chris_1974: YES RT @vikh46: #ukedchat Sometimes U dont wnt children 2 know wht they R going 2
learn b/c U wnt them 2 find things out..to B detectives!
7/15/2010 20:52
ForesterJo: RT @katie_hague: Can have knowledge and skills based objectives, but let children
explore and develop further #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:53
Natty08: Yes have been known to get chn. to guess objectives at end of lesson! Shows if what you
had in mind has been achieved :) #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:53
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7/15/2010 20:53
largerama: @katie_hague too true. You can never know what they are all in to or would like to be into
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:53
josepicardo: ok, black hat off - time to put my green hat back on ;-) #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:53
ForesterJo: RT @katie_hague: Can have knowledge and skills based objectives, but let children
explore and develop further #ukedchat I LIKE THIS!
7/15/2010 20:53
kentish_miss: RT @nellmog: @jamesmichie we need ofsted (and others) to recognise the value of
creativity in teaching and learning then it would not be a risk #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:53
didactylos: @ianaddison #ukedchat yes I often go out 'for a walk' just for the walk, not to reach a
specific place at a specific time.
7/15/2010 20:53
iteachyear4: @didactylos I've been told off for doing exactly that before. We use I Can statements. I
put a question - wrist slapping time! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:53
bevevans22: @ianaddison Nothing wrong with being in with the kids on the carpet - I do it all the time
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:53
ianaddison: @hairysporan screw the man! aren't we all in charge and can do what we want these days
anyway? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:53
Cgeo28: #ukedchat : pupils don't need to have objectives at start but creativity needs to lead to a
planned outcome to meet key skills and content
7/15/2010 20:53
jamesmichie: @janwebb21 True, but it shd not b principle on which we build creaticvity. We shd ask how
can a creative app/ support learning. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:53
Baggiepr: RT @vikh46: #ukedchat Sometimes you don't want children to know what they are going
to learn you want them to find things out.. detectives!
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7/15/2010 20:53
eyebeams: So allowing creativity not to dissipate and to focus on opportunities for outcomes or
learning from outcomes is one quality? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:53
geraldhaigh1: #ukedchat So I think in a way creativity is infectious. If teacher's a lateral thinker and a risk
taker, children may well respond.
7/15/2010 20:53
chris_1974: @janwebb21 very true. We need to avoid driving them or being the satnav
#pushingthemataphoralittletoofar #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:54
digitalmaverick: Where in school did 'The Man Who Moves Buildings' learn to do what he does? Answer is
he didn't but his #creativity is important #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:54
CHAR0ULA: teachers taking part in activities together with students encourages creativity as opens
students minds #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:54
ianaddison: Do you want to know where people are from? Come and add yourself to the map
http://bit.ly/teachmap #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:54
janwebb21: @chris_1974 can't be the learning equivalent of a tom-tom with the kids though! they need
the map book to plan own route #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:54
Joga5: @Cgeo28 Agree but it is also something missing in much of our society #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:54
krysiaS: @josepicardo creativity can be "taught" and learned imo, some are just more creative than
others #ukedchat (a lot to do wi confidence)
7/15/2010 20:54
janwebb21: RT @ianaddison: Do you want to know where people are from? Come and add yourself to
the map http://bit.ly/teachmap #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:54
hairysporan: RT @ianaddison: Do you want to know where people are from? Come and add yourself to
7/15/2010 20:55
dughall: @ianaddison I had a Y5s teach a room full of teachers for 40 mins as part of conference
on IWBs they prepared slides, everything. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:55
Baggiepr: RT @bevevans22: @ianaddison Nothing wrong with being in with the kids on the carpet - I
do it all the time #ukedchat #imalearneraswell
7/15/2010 20:55
ianaddison: RT @nellmog: we need ofsted (and others) to recognise the value of creativity in teaching
and learning then it would not be a risk #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:55
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7/15/2010 20:55
josepicardo: @digitalmaverick very good point: is teaching #creativity the sole responsibility of schools
and teachers? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:55
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Janshs: @dughall brilliant! #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:55
katie_hague: @ForesterJo So do I - great way to teach once you're used to it! Took staff and children
time to get there though #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:55
didactylos: #ukedchat key article of faith - do we believe everyone can be creative? Even the most
fossilised teechar?
7/15/2010 20:55
damoward: RT @ianaddison: Do you want to know where people are from? Come and add yourself to
7/15/2010 20:55
dughall: Can you actually *learn* creativity? #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:56
grouchyteacher: I know I'm not in UK, but the kids in my classes w/out satellite tv are more creative
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:56
ianinsheffield: @ianaddison Pple in #ukedchat might do that ... but what about those who lack awarness
of tools - if u only have a hammer in ur toolbox ...
7/15/2010 20:56
ForesterJo: #ukedchat did we all have a WALT and WILF when we signed on for tonight? I know I've
learnt things / got ideas I didn't expect!
7/15/2010 20:56
janwebb21: RT @vikh46: #ukedchat Sometimes you don't want children to know what they are going
to learn because you want them to find things out..to be detectives!
7/15/2010 20:56
bevevans22: RT @krysiaS: @josepicardo creativity can be "taught" & learned, some just more creative
than others #ukedchat (a lot to do wi confidence)
7/15/2010 20:56
ianaddison: Ok, last few minutes. How has #ukedchat changed your views tonight? What are you going
to do/change?
7/15/2010 20:56
Natty08: Another scary thing ------ the classroom can be outside in the playground! So many don't
use this great resource! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:56
carolrainbow: RT @geraldhaigh1: #ukedchat ... children may well respond. Absolutely - I think they do!
They seem to reflect what they see in their teacher
7/15/2010 20:56
iteachyear4: @dughall No - you just are. Creativity is just doing it how you see best isn't it? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:57
rantingteacher: @ianaddison sometimes a teacher walks into my room and can't see me - I'm in the back
row amongst the pupils as they "teach" #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:57
colport: RT @saraloisstanley: I an not sure a teacher who lacks creativity can recognise or nuture
creativity of a child #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:57
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Janshs: RT @Natty08: Another scary thing ------ the classroom can be outside in the playground!
So many don't use this great resource! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:57
Baggiepr: Ofsted and observations are such a small % of teaching lets not use these as excuse for
exploring new creative ideas #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:57
josepicardo: @krysiaS @IaninSheffield I agree, we are all creative in our own way - just being devil's
advocate #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:57
MattSL: RT @Cgeo28: #ukedchat : pupils don't need objectives at start but creativity needs to lead
to planned outcome to meet key skills and content
7/15/2010 20:57
islayian: Better get on with my holiday here in Cyprus #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:57
hairysporan: remember kids re always curious. if you work quietly away in the corner on something
interesting they will soon gather round #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:57
ianaddison: @grouchyteacher #ukedchat has quickly gone beyond the UK! everyone is welcome, the
only thing UK about it is the timing
7/15/2010 20:57
carolrainbow: #ukedchat go to go - sorry all :-( Will catch up the last few minutes later :-) Thanks
everyone
7/15/2010 20:57
daviderogers: RT @dughall: Can you actually *learn* creativity? #ukedchat >> I don't think so, but I also
don't see that as a problem. Many tools etc...
7/15/2010 20:57
Baggiepr: Ofsted and observations are such a small % of teaching lets not use these as excuse for
NOT exploring new creative ideas #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:57
iteachyear4: @Baggiepr But what about when they look back through what you've been doing?
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:58
colport: RT @ukedchat: Launched this evening, a #ukedchat flyer for you to print and pass to
7/15/2010 20:58
ianaddison: RT @ForesterJo: #ukedchat did we all have a WALT and WILF when we signed on for
tonight?I know I've learnt things/got ideas I didn't expect!
7/15/2010 20:58
jamesmichie: @dughall Yes! & u can unlearn it 2! Creativity is an attitude/a model of working 2 b
developed. It's not something u r born with. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:58
eyebeams: Creativity flourishes with and promotes self-esteem? #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:58
digitalmaverick: @dughall I believe you CAN 'learn' creativity - if opportunities are there to allow that to
happen #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:58
MattSL: RT @CHAR0ULA: teachers taking part in activities together with students encourages
creativity as opens students minds #ukedchat
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7/15/2010 20:58
sh1916: #ukedchat I am going to seriously consider how stuck in my ways I might be and try to be
a bit more creative in my planning!
7/15/2010 20:58
carolinebreyley: @Natty08 agree re playground and also in the village, street etc too. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:58
school_closures: RT @jamesmichie #ukedchat Sad that there's still such a "closed off" attitude 2 sharing
ideas in schools. Guess that is why some of us...
7/15/2010 20:58
hairysporan: @islayian you bugger we still got 1 week to go #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:58
ianaddison: RT @Baggiepr: Ofsted and observations are such a small % of teaching lets not use these
as excuse for exploring new creative ideas #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:58
bevevans22: @dughall Everyone can find something they are good at in the creative sense. (once had
someone design an igloo using BlockCAD #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:58
malcolmbellamy: creativity can be assisted and facilitated I do not think it can be taught #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:58
2SimpleAnt: creativity starts with us - we need to prove/demonstrate to children that we can and want
to create/make something #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:59
colport: @Cgeo28 How do you mean? #ukedchat

7/15/2010 20:59
Cgeo28: RT @Cgeo28: @colport @saraloisstanley : teachers who lack creativity can still inspire
their learners #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:59
ForesterJo: #ukedchat We often finish Forest School sessions "WHat did YOU learn today'? - have
had many profound, bizarre and unexpected responses!
7/15/2010 20:59
cherylren: #ukedchat Creativity with a capital C makes my blood run cold. Mandated, linked to the
economy and a stick to beat us with. Fair?
7/15/2010 20:59
brookhouser: @dughall Yes. Some people are more naturally creative, but there's evidence that
creativity CAN be learned through practice. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 20:59
nellmog: RT @ukedchat: Launched this evening, a #ukedchat flyer for you to print and pass to
7/15/2010 21:00
dughall: @jamesmichie Totally agree about 'unlearning' creativity! This is a danger in many
classrooms unfortunately :-( #ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:00
hairysporan: @sh1916 just let go and play ...have fun learn alongside the kids #ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:00
eyebeams: Is creativity like the blind men and the elephant ;) #ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:00
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Baggiepr: @iteachyear4 SLT interviewed the children about their learning experiences. The things
they remembered were creative ideas #ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:00
2SimpleAnt: @ianaddison nothing kills creativity more than those acronyms #ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:00
bevevans22: RT @ForesterJo: #ukedchat Often finish Forest School sessions "WHat did YOU learn
today'? - many profound, bizarre & unexpected responses!
7/15/2010 21:00
SkoorBttaM: RT @ForesterJo: #ukedchat did we all have a WALT and WILF when we signed on for
tonight? I know I've learnt things / got ideas I didn't expect!
7/15/2010 21:01
malcolmbellamy: if we start our planning with the creative possibilities first we will allow the children to really
learn in their own way #ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:01
daviderogers: @ianaddison @Baggiepr plus ofsted have praised creativity in our school, especially
where it improves outcomes #ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:01
Janshs: key! RT @wjputt #ukedchat Ldrs sd be prepared to be creative in CPD sessions to

encourage a whole school culture of creation & innovation.
7/15/2010 21:01
colport: Whoa whoa whoa. Where did that hour go? Thank you for great and engaging debate.
Please complete http://bit.ly/aFgzdS #ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:01
rslosek: @davem23 Do you know about TeachMeets, MathMeets and #ukedchat ? Lots of
teaching Twitter folk on there.
7/15/2010 21:01
Natty08: Lifedoesn't happen in straight lines so why try and teach it as so - creativity encourages
bumps and corners :) #ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:01
familysimpson: RT @nellmog: RT @ukedchat: Launched this evening, a #ukedchat flyer for you to print
and pass to colleagues / staff rooms... http://twitdoc.com/c/sec53w
7/15/2010 21:02
kentish_miss: RT @ukedchat: Launched this evening, a #ukedchat flyer for you to print and pass to
7/15/2010 21:02
katie_hague: Our head started this by asking us what we most remember from school - most were
making / doing things. Tells us something! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:02
iteachyear4: @Baggiepr Totally believe that. If they come up with the idea, they'll remember it!
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:02
ianaddison: that's it for another #ukedchat, feel free to continue but it's 9pm. Keep an eye out as
@colport will publish the archive soon, thanks!
7/15/2010 21:02
dughall: @krysiaS Assessed on creativity? That came up earlier on #ukedchat Interesting. Not
saying it can't be assessed. Think difficult to though.
7/15/2010 21:02
colport: You can promote #ukedchat by promoting this flyer http://twitdoc.com/c/sec53w
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7/15/2010 21:02
damoward: RT @ianaddison: that's it for another #ukedchat, feel free to continue but it's 9pm. Keep
an eye out as @colport will publish the archive soon, thanks!
7/15/2010 21:03
daviderogers: Final thought - creativity is killed by poor, death by reading a PowerPoint inset. Staff learn
in the same ways as pupils :-) #ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:03
alisoniredale: RT @cherylren: #ukedchat Creativity with a capital C makes my blood run cold. Mandated,
linked to the economy and a stick to beat us with. Fair?
7/15/2010 21:03
ForesterJo: RT @ianaddison: @Natty08 i had a lesson in the car park, literacy, making sentences from
letters on number plates. #ukedchat FAB IDEA!
7/15/2010 21:03
Cgeo28: @colport : hard to explain but e.g. I cannot act but was able to get my class performing
creatively about a geography issue?! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:03
marybethcrum: RT @ianaddison: @Natty08 i had a lesson in the car park, literacy, making sentences from
letters on number plates. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:03
nellmog: RT @colport: You can promote #ukedchat by promoting this flyer http://twitdoc.com
/c/sec53w
7/15/2010 21:03
Janshs: @ianaddison thanks! #ukedchat

7/15/2010 21:03
colport: Thanks for joining @ianaddison and myself - Archive to follow soon
www.ukedchat.wikispaces.com #ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:03
suggsburgess: RT @colport: You can promote #ukedchat by promoting this flyer http://twitdoc.com
/c/sec53w
7/15/2010 21:04
janwebb21: RT @colport: You can promote #ukedchat by promoting this flyer http://twitdoc.com
/c/sec53w
7/15/2010 21:04
didactylos: #ukedchat what was your objective one hour ago? Did you achieve it? If you did have you
ignored everything else?
7/15/2010 21:04
Natty08: Thanks to @ianaddison and @colport for #ukedchat

7/15/2010 21:04
didactylos: RT @Natty08: Lifedoesn't happen in straight lines so why try and teach it as so - creativity
encourages bumps and corners :) #ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:04
colport: @janwebb21 is setting the questions and leading the session next week. Look out for the
poll at the weekend. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:04
B_GandT: RT @ianaddison: Are you joining us for #ukedchat at 8pm tonight? Topics are available
here: http://ukedchat.wikispaces.com/poll go and vote!
7/15/2010 21:04
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jamesmichie: #ukedchat Well done one & all, thoroughly engrossing once again! Gr8 wrk @ianaddison
@colport
7/15/2010 21:05
TAtoTeacher: RT @Natty08: People have to realise that there is noise and active noise - both look the
same but are TOTALLY different #ukedchat > v.true!
7/15/2010 21:05
primarypete_: RT @Natty08: Thanks to @ianaddison and @colport for #ukedchat mucho gracias :)
7/15/2010 21:05
colport: Plenty of great people to follow from #ukedchat - Do it the easy way via blastfollow.com
7/15/2010 21:05
dughall: RT @jamesmichie: #ukedchat Well done one & all, thoroughly engrossing once again! Gr8
wrk @ianaddison @colport
7/15/2010 21:05
janwebb21: RT @colport: @janwebb21 is setting the questions and leading the session next week.
Look out for the poll at the weekend. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:05
didactylos: #ukedchat kudos to all participants, a superb roller coaster hour

7/15/2010 21:06
janwebb21: RT @Natty08: Thanks to @ianaddison and @colport for #ukedchat

7/15/2010 21:06
vikh46: #ukedchat WOW! My first ever chat. Thanks guys...I feel pooped!
7/15/2010 21:06
MattSL: thanks #ukedchat very interesting and inspiring

7/15/2010 21:06
alisoniredale: Pluralism and creativity find bedfellows at #ukedchat

7/15/2010 21:06
shupester: RT @Natty08: Lifedoesn't happen in straight lines so why try and teach it as so - creativity
encourages bumps and corners :) #ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:06
iteachyear4: RT @dughall: RT @jamesmichie: #ukedchat Well done one & all, thoroughly engrossing
once again! Gr8 wrk @ianaddison @colport Yeah well done!
7/15/2010 21:06
kentish_miss: @NLLAcademy Found #ukedchat - a brilliant online forum for staff interested in T&L - see
flyer for info! http://twitdoc.com/c/sec53w
7/15/2010 21:07
Cgeo28: Would be great to share dialogue like that with staff in school #ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:07
rantingteacher: Yep agreed - great topic! RT @Natty08 Thanks to @ianaddison and @colport for
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:07
janwebb21: RT @iteachyear4: RT @dughall: RT @jamesmichie: #ukedchat Well done one & all,
thoroughly engrossing once again! Gr8 wrk @ianaddison @colport Yeah well done!
7/15/2010 21:07
ForesterJo: RT @primarypete_: RT @Natty08: Thanks to @ianaddison and @colport for #ukedchat

mucho gracias :)
7/15/2010 21:07
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ianaddison: @Natty08 @imageryinmind @2SimpleAnt i had Y6 literacy group with y2/3 ability, i
needed things to inspire and enthuse! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:07
Baggiepr: RT @eyebeams: RT @Natty08: Thanks to @ianaddison and @colport for #ukedchat (Top
Chat)
7/15/2010 21:07
colport: @Cgeo28 The archive is available via the wiki site www.ukedchat.wikispaces.com - so
share away! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:08
damoward: interesting chat well done Ian and Pete and everyone - spending rest of evening with other
half. g'night #ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:08
eyebeams: @janwebb21 - I am sure @bevevans22 would tell you about the Welsh words for teavher
and learner ...#ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:08
Janshs: agree, I wish I knew how RT @Cgeo28 Would be great to share dialogue like that with
staff in school #ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:08
ianaddison: do you have a topic for next week's chat? send a dm to either @colport or myself and we'll
try and add it to the vote #ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:08
chrisrat: RT @primarypete_: RT @Natty08: Thanks to @ianaddison and @colport for #ukedchat

mucho gracias :)
7/15/2010 21:08
alisoniredale: @tj007 is creativity expressive? If we name it in order to share it, doesn't that just package
it up like heinz beans? #ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:09
chris_1974: Ok. Thanks to all #ukedchat ers. Now to plan a lesson on building a theme park.
7/15/2010 21:09
swindonten: Loving #ukedchat, great to read, really useful

7/15/2010 21:09
Caro_lann: “@colport: You can promote #ukedchat by promoting this flyer http://twitdoc.com
/c/sec53w” Any chance of a non-flash version?
7/15/2010 21:09
janwebb21: @vikh46 and me - so much for thinking I was following all those who'd appeared on
#ukedchat tonight!
7/15/2010 21:09
ianinsheffield: RT @ianaddison: @Natty08 i had a lesson in the car park, literacy, making sentences from
letters on number plates. #ukedchat <- Nice!
7/15/2010 21:10
janwebb21: @eyebeams that could just get even more confusing!!! #ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:11
eyebeams: #ukedchat = #ukedcrack

7/15/2010 21:12
Cgeo28: Does #ukedchat stop over the summer hols and start again in Sep?!
7/15/2010 21:13
krysiaS: @dughall the sqa assess them on a range of ideas/solutions. Only thro being creative can
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they achieve a good range #ukedchat

7/15/2010 21:13
josepicardo: anyway, we got it all wrong. It's the children that should be teaching us creativity.
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:13
2SimpleAnt: RT @primarypete_: RT @Natty08: Thanks to @ianaddison and @colport for #ukedchat

mucho gracias :)
7/15/2010 21:14
dughall: @krysiaS Hadn't really thought about it too much before (in my Primary ed experience) but
of course ur right. Sound criteria. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:14
colport: @Cgeo28 It is hoped #ukedchat will continue over the summer.

7/15/2010 21:14
kvnmcl: Time to catch up on the creativity discussion on #ukedchat from what I've read so far it
looks like I missed a blinder
7/15/2010 21:14
jensenmary30: I think that technologies offer a great resource for creativity. You do not need to spend
loads of £$£$ with many freebies avail. #ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:15
katie_hague: Great #ukedchat again, and loving blastfollow!

7/15/2010 21:15
carolinebreyley: @colport @ianaddison Many thanks - fantastic hour :)#ukedchat

7/15/2010 21:15
ianinsheffield: In an hour on most evenings, about 250 tweets to read. On #ukedchat , over 500! Gotta
read/think faster! Formula 1 CPD or what?
7/15/2010 21:15
kvnmcl: anyway, we got it all wrong. It's the children that should be teaching us creativity.
#ukedchat /via @josepicardo true
7/15/2010 21:15
josepicardo: @IaninSheffield @krysiaS what I really object to is the pursuit of creativity as... a subject!
#ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:16
didactylos: RT @ianinsheffield: In an hour on most evenings, about 250 tweets to read. On #ukedchat
, over 500! Gotta read/think faster! Formula 1 CPD or what?
7/15/2010 21:16
Janshs: agree & they do, evry day 4 me RT @josepicardo anyway, we got it all wrong. It's the
children that shd be teaching us creativity #ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:17
colport: Ok. Time to turn off twitter for a while to get archive from #ukedchat My next tweet will be
to share! Thanks for comments and engagement.
7/15/2010 21:18
ianinsheffield: RT @josepicardo: @krysiaS what I really object to is the pursuit of creativity as... a
subject! #ukedchat <- Agreed!
7/15/2010 21:19
colport: RT @colport: Ooh, before I do ;-) If you took part in #ukedchat please complete this quick
form. Thank you. http://bit.ly/9ZFudP ;-)
7/15/2010 21:22
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carolinebreyley: @colport http://bit.ly/d8MQBW Some Scottish sec sch examples. Some of these are a bit
old now. CforE in all schs next session #ukedchat
7/15/2010 21:23
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onewheeljoe: @Baggiepr just on twitter. Keep watching #ukedchat

dughall: @mrplume Purely on twitter #ukedchat

primarypete_: @colport i've been using twitterfall.com to follow #ukedchat

dughall: @imageryinmind Watch the road!!!!!! #ukedchat

ianaddison: @sausagekinguk can you be creative within a structure? #ukedchat

colport: Does creativity mean just mixing subjects together? #ukedchat

largerama: @colport do u mean Do I do this cross-curric or within my dept? #ukedchat

chrisrat: RT @ianaddison: can you be creative in a school that is in spec measures/satisfactory? or

Julian3576: #ukedchat Turned my class into space mission control... http://www.facebook.com

chris_1974: @dughall i meant us, not u. #ukedchat

carolrainbow: Creativity involves 2 processes: thinking, then producing. http://bit.ly/UgRl2 #ukedchat

didactylos: #ukedchat are we talking creativity as in expressing yourself creatively, or creativity as in

ianaddison: RT @primarypete_: #ukedchat to allow creativity to flourish,you need to allow ch to risk

ianaddison: @largerama and postits, whiteboards, scrap paper! #ukedchat

chrisrat: @imageryinmind phew!!! #ukedchat

largerama: @dughall good point re teacher confidence #ukedchat

SkoorBttaM: RT @carolrainbow: Innovation is the production or implementation of an idea. If U have

sh1916: @iteachyear4 Also applies to Secondary! #ukedchat

didactylos: #ukedchat to encourage learners to be creative we need, as 'teechas' to model that

dughall: @primarypete_ It needs watching, monitoring. Persistent failure = cpd/support/coaching

largerama: @ianaddison agreed #ukedchat

creativity. Show us how it's done! http://bit.ly/bHHehv

ianaddison: RT @janwebb21: #ukedchat are we talking creativity in teaching or empowering pupils to

that" >= "I gotta C") #ukedchat

janwebb21: @daviderogers #ukedchat - with tech/non-tech, qca/non-qca approaches - it's HOW a

janwebb21: @daviderogers #ukedchat bring it to life

sh1916: @ianaddison That sounds like a lot of fun too! #ukedchat

dughall: @ForesterJo Don't forget #ukedchat #tag :-)

MattSL: @primarypete_ creative teachers leads to creative pupils #ukedchat

SkoorBttaM: Do you have to scrap the photocopier to be creative? #ukedchat

<if head isn't on board, you're out of luck!

Elmlea1981: RT @ForesterJo: RT @ianaddison: why do we need to assess everything? if they do a

sh1916: RT @dughall: Creativity in the classroom is about establishing constructivist approaches

(as opposed to objectivist). #ukedchat

dughall: #ukedchat Gotta go :-( May get back before 9...

iteachyear4: @nellmog Lack of confidence from above? #ukedchat

colport: @MattSL Would that be acceptable to OfSTED? #ukedchat

didactylos: RT @dughall: Creativity in the classroom is about establishing constructivist approaches

SkoorBttaM: RT @primarypete_: Needs to be a clear distinction between teachers building creative

damoward: @didactylos well said Roger #ukedchat

BigWildy: @eyebeams totally agree, teach on the edge! #ukedchat

Natty08: RT @carolinebreyley am also appreciating "luxury" of now working in Scotland; new

isleofmandan: RT @damoward creativity needn't be tied to assessment; value is in engagement and

eyebeams: So how can you actively harness creativity - strategies? #ukedchat

eyebeams: Should failure be seen as a opportunity for scaffolding learning? #ukedchat

janwebb21: RT @bevevans22: @ianaddison #ukedchat>sometimes the best learning experiences are

Elmlea1981: RT @janwebb21: RT @bevevans22: @ianaddison #ukedchat>sometimes the best learning

ianaddison: @Julian3576 grab the archive tomorrow! #ukedchat

eyebeams: So one element of creativity may be longer time frames? #ukedchat

josepicardo: @eyebeams failure is just an opportunity to do better #ukedchat

Cgeo28: @bevevans22 #ukedchat - but sometimes tech can restrict creativity

Janshs: #ukedchat this is interesting http://www.fastcompany.com/1648943/creativity-the-most-

ianaddison: if you learn from previous experience, it is not failing #ukedchat

iteachyear4: RT @Natty08: RT @bevevans22: Failure (occasionally) has to be an option - we all learn

janwebb21: @bevevans22 I do failure exceptionally well! #ukedchat (must mean am capable of

alisoniredale: RT @MattSL: Teaching should provide a model of excellence, if my aim is to inspire

cybraryman1: My Creativity page (please contribute on the Wallwisher): http://bit.ly/d0QYmz #ukedchat

largerama: RT @MattSL: Teaching should provide a model of excellence, if my aim is to inspire

ianaddison: so...ofsted are in. Do you be creative or play it safe? #ukedchat

Elmlea1981: RT @Baggiepr: RT @MattSL: Teach should provide a model of excellence, aim is to

superrobbo: RT @Natty08: RT @bevevans22: Failure (occasionally) has to be an option - we all learn

eyebeams: So is one element of creativity informed mutli-options pathways and opportunities

dughall: Can you actually learn creativity? #ukedchat