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Davidkay MaximumColdBendAngle
Participant 04/25/20078:35AM

IamdoingaPipelineDesignandhavejustfinishedcalculatingtheMinimumFieldbendRadius.

Iwanttoknowhowthistranslatestomaximumfieldbendangle.ThatishowdoIusethisminimumfield
bendradiustocalculatethemaximumField(cold)bendangle?
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#5"Re:MaximumColdBendangle"by2226on07/17/20088:36AM(score2)

#1
dovrak Re:MaximumColdBendangle
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Posts:22 maximumbendangle=180degre

#9
Anonymous Re:MaximumColdBendangle Inreplyto#1
Poster 02/06/20096:02AM

anapplicationinmyindustrycallsfor90degreebendof1"sch.80pipe&

asweknowasteelpipecanbebentfor90degree,butwhtistheminimumradiusneedtobemaintainedat
thebendandwhyisitso,isthereanystandorformulagoveningthatminimumradiusatbend??

#14
Anonymous Re:MaximumColdBendangle Inreplyto#9
Poster 08/04/20101:23AM

anapplicationinmyindustrycallsfor90degreebendof1"sch.80pipe&asweknowasteelpipecanbe
bentfor90degree,butwhtistheminimumradiusneedtobemaintainedatthebendandwhyisitso,is
thereanystandorformulagoveningthatminimumradiusatbend??

Re:MaximumColdBendangle #16
Anonymous 01/19/201111:51PM Inreplyto#1
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#2
Davidkay Re:MaximumColdBendangle
Participant 04/26/20077:43AM

Coldbendsarenormallywithin13Deg.and16Deg.

WhatIwanttoknowiswhetherthereisarelationshipbetweenminimumElasticbendRadiusandtheangle
(angleafterwhichapipecannolongerbebentusingcoldbendingmethod,butHotInductionBending).
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Location:Nigeria
MinimumElasticbendRadiusisgivenbyR=ED/2Sa
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WhereE=YoungsmodulusofElasticity

D=Diameterofpipe

Sa=LongitudinalStressallowedforbending

#3
Bluestone Re:MaximumColdBendangle Inreplyto#2
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Guru 04/26/200711:37AM

Itisalotmoreinvolvedthanthatandyourquestiondoesn'tincludesufficientinformationtoprovidemore
thangeneralanswers.

Whetherornotthepipecanbebenttothedesiredradius(orangle)dependsonthematerial,diameter,wall
JoinDate:Nov2006
Location:OHUSA
thickness,andwhetherornotsomematerial(drysandorothertemporaryfillingmaterial)isusedto
Posts:549 preventcollapseorflattening.Whenpipeortubeisbent,theouterwallisstretchedandtheinner
GoodAnswers:26 compressedandasaresultofthoseoppositeandunequalstresses,thepipeortubetendstoflattenor
collapseregardlessofwhetheritisdonecoldorhot.

Thesafeminimumradiusforagivendiameter,material,andmethodofbendingdependsprimarilyonthe
pipewallthickness.Asageneralrule,standardweightwroughtironorsteelpipecanreadilybebenttoa
radiusequalto3.54timesthenominalpipediameter.However,thatminimumwillvarydependingupon
thebendingmethodemployedandthepipewallthickness.

Ageneralruleforfindingthelengthofpipesectioninthebendistomultiplytheradiusofthebendbythe
includedanglethenmultiplythatproductbytheconstant0.01745.Theresultisthelengthofthecurved
section.

#4
Davidkay Re:MaximumColdBendangle Inreplyto#3
Participant 04/27/20075:15AM

ThanksSomuchforyourcontribution.

ThePipeisa36"pipe,Wallthicknessis12.7mm.

JoinDate:Apr2007 InsomepreviousprojectsthatIparticipatedin,wehavealwaysadopted15Deg.andbelowasFieldbends
Location:Nigeria
orNaturalbendsandabove15Deg.wehavealwaysrecommendedHotInductionbends(3Dor5D,asthe
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casemaybe).

Ihaveneverknownthebasisforthischoiceofangles.Ihavealwaystriedtofindanswers,butI'venever
gottentherightsourcesofinformation.IfIcanevenhaverecommendationofabookoranyofthe
internationalstandardsthatgiveagoodexplanation(ElasticBendRadius,FieldBendangles,Induction
Bends,etc)I'llappreciateit.

Butatthemoment,thisismydilema:

IhavealreadycalculatedtheMinimumElasticBendradiusandgot2160m(whichisabout60D).SowhatI
reallywanttoknowishowtodeterminethemaximumangleforwhichfield(cold)bendsisnomore
recommendedforthispipeline(isit13Deg.or14or15andwhy).

SomeofthepipelineDataincludes:

OperatingTemperature=50Deg.C

Ambient/InstallationTemp.=25Deg.C

http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/7318/MaximumColdBendAngle 3/8
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DesignPressure=1450psig

SteelClass=API5LX65

SMYS=4.48E+08N/m2

ModulusofElasticityE=2.01E+11N/m2

Coeff.ofLinearexpansivitye=1.17E05/deg.C

Thankssomuchinanticipation.

#5
2226 Re:MaximumColdBendangle Inreplyto#4
ActiveContributor 07/17/20088:36AM

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Posts:13
Thecoldbendcalculationcanbedonelikethis,
GoodAnswers:1
Say,

L=thelengthofthepipeusually12m

a=thetangentlength(thestraightlengthtobeprovidedattheendofpipetofacilitatetheweldingwiththe
mainline)usually1.5m

r=thebendradius(asinyourcaseitis60D)

so,

Bendangle=[(L2a)x180]/[r*3.142]

180/3.142givestheangleindegrees

OnethingIdidnotgetishowdidufixedtheallowablebendingstress???whatisthecriteriatolimitit??any
reference??

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NomoreGoodAnswers.

#6
Anonymous Re:MaximumColdBendangle Inreplyto#5
Poster 09/28/20089:00PM

Hi

http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/7318/MaximumColdBendAngle 4/8
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IampresentlyInvolvedinthedesignfor10",A105,SeamlessSch160crosscountrypipeline.ThePipeline
isroutedparralleltoanexistingroad.Atonestretchtheroadtakesabendwhoosebendingraidousis
around705Mandtheincludedangleis16.68deg.

IntermsofPipelinediameterthebendradiousisaround277D.Cananyonehelpmewhetherthisbendcan
benegotiatedwithnaturalelasticbendwhilelayingitselfwithoutrequiringanyplasticcoldbening.Isthere
anycalctojustifythedesign?

Thanksinadvance

regards,

Sanjai.N

#7
n_sanjai Re:MaximumColdBendangle Inreplyto#6
Participant 10/01/20088:36PM

JoinDate:Sep2008
Posts:1
Hi

FromthePipelineRulesofThumbHandbook,ThepipecanbeconsideredasCantileaverBeamwithendload
whichispossiblytheworstloadingsceanarieoandarrivedattheMinimumElasticColdbendradious
allowedwithinthecodeallowablestress.Thisisthebendradiousthepipecannaturallytakewithout
enteringintotheplasticstate.

R=3EI/(2ZSa)

R=Min.BendRadiusin

E=Modulusofelasticity29x10^6lb/in^2

I=MomentofInertia=0.0491(D^4d^4)in^4

Z=Sectionmodulus=0.0982(D^4d^4)/Din^3

Sa=AllowablestressinPSIaspercode.YieldstressfactorF=0.5forGaslineTypeCconsturctionasper
ANSIB31.8(stringent)orYieldstressfactorF=0.72forliquidtransportationasperANSIB31.4canbeused
toarriveAllowablestress.

#10
dharan Re:MaximumColdBendangle Inreplyto#5
Participant 06/06/20097:02AM

JoinDate:Jun2009
Posts:2
Hi!IamdoingtheBendcalculationfortheOnshoreundergroundpipelineproject.

MyQuestionisWatfactoriwanttoconsidertocalculatethebendangleorarcLengthforElasticbend,5D
hotInductionBend&FieldColdbend?Whatdataiwanttorefertocalculateforthis?Isthereanyformula
orwehavetocalculatebasedonthethumbrule?iamfreshinthisarea.pleaseadvise.

http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/7318/MaximumColdBendAngle 5/8
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Thisismailid

dharan_82@yahoo.co.in

#11
Anonymous Re:MaximumColdBendangle Inreplyto#5
Poster 06/07/20099:52AM

Hi!IamdoingtheBendcalculationfortheOnshoreundergroundpipelineproject.

MyQuestionisWatfactoriwanttoconsidertocalculatethebendangleorarcLengthforElasticbend,5D
hotInductionBend&FieldColdbend?Whatdataiwanttorefertocalculateforthis?Isthereanyformula
orwehavetocalculatebasedonthethumbrule?iamfreshinthisarea.pleaseadvise.

Thisismailid

dharan_82@yahoo.co.in

#19
jobin01 Re:MaximumColdBendangle Inreplyto#5
Participant 07/08/20163:23AM

JoinDate:Jul2012 ThankYouforbeinganactivecontributorandhelpingpeople.
Posts:1

#8
Anonymous Re:MaximumColdBendangle Inreplyto#3
Poster 10/10/20087:33PM

Forsteelpipe30"NPS20SCH,L=thelengthofthepipe12m

a=thetangentlength(thestraightlengthtobeprovidedattheendofpipetofacilitatetheweldingwiththe
mainline)2m(minimum)

r=thebendradiusis40D

so,

MyQuestionisWatfactoriwanttoconsidertocalculatethebendangleorarcLength?Whatdataiwantto
refertocalculatethis...canuplztellme......thisismailidkannapiran.mech@gmail.com...

#15
Anonymous Re:MaximumColdBendangle Inreplyto#8
Poster 10/28/20105:27AM

http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/7318/MaximumColdBendAngle 6/8
6/15/2017 CR4Thread:MaximumColdBendAngle
haveyouheardaboutformulaeforcalculatinglengthofchordinacircle???

l=(pi*r*theta)/180

Hopethiswillbeinformativetoyou

#12
tare2 Re:MaximumColdBendangle Inreplyto#2
Participant 12/09/200910:06AM

JoinDate:Dec2009
Posts:1
Didyoufindagoodanswertoyourquestion?

Ihavethesamequestion?(8"wt0.322API5LX42)

canyouhelpme?

Re:MaximumColdBendangle #13
crajkumar 05/12/20104:45AM

#17
Davidkay Re:MaximumColdBendAngle
Participant 07/17/201210:53AM

InretrospectandwithmorematurityinPipelineDesigns,IhavefoundoutthatthemaximumCold(Field)
BendAnglesarenotfixedforallpipelines,butaredependentontheLinePipeLength,theBendRadius
whichisdeterminedfromthecodes(ASMEB31.8orB31.4oranyother).
JoinDate:Apr2007 Hence2226contributiontothethreadisthebestanswertomyearlierquestion.
Location:Nigeria
Posts:4

#18
2226 Re:MaximumColdBendAngle Inreplyto#17
ActiveContributor 07/23/20124:55AM

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Thanku....
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