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Clen And T3 Vs. DNP Which Is Better?


May 22, 2017 By Derek 12 Comments

Clen AndT3 Vs. DNP Which Is Better?


This article will delve into which scenarios Clen coupled with T3 is best
for, and which scenarios DNP is best for, and explain which is better
than the other and why.
Clen And T3 Vs. DNP - Which Is Better?

DNP Is More Muscle Sparing


While Clen on its own has anti-catabolic properties, when coupled with
T3 (which is very catabolic at high dosages) you can have some of your
hard earned muscle burned o if you arent on enough anabolic
assistance.

DNP on the other hand, is not catabolic at all, and even without
anabolic assistance you shouldnt lose any more muscle than you
wouldve lost anyways had you not taken DNP at all.

So, from the perspective of which fat-burning strategy is the most


muscle sparing, DNP takes the cake (unless Clen were used on its
own).

Moderate High Doses Of DNP Will


Flatten You Out More And Wreck Your
Workouts
This is one of the major downfalls of DNP.

It will deplete your body of ATP and glycogen like crazy, and atten
your muscles out like a pancake.

By muscle atness I mean it is a lot harder to get a pump, and your


muscles lack that pop that they have when they are properly glycogen
loaded and hydrated.

While T3 can atten you out at higher dosages, it isnt anywhere near
the degree DNP will.

Clen doesnt cause any muscle atness at all so coupling Clen + T3 will
result in far less muscle atness than DNP in my experience, and it will
be much easier to get a pump, and contract your muscles properly
during each rep.

DNP also just quite literally runs you into the ground at even moderate
dosages.

You will feel like you are dragging ass all day long, and just getting your
workout done feels like a massive undertaking in a calorie de cit.

This is not an issue on Clen + T3 as they dont zap your energy levels
severely like DNP does.

Clen + T3 Mild Diuretic E ect


DNP is notorious for causing a very unaesthetic layer of water
retention during its use.

Coupled with being at as a pancake, you look like absolute dog shit
on DNP to say the least.
It isnt until you drop it and you ll back out and drop the water
retention that you can really see how well it worked for you.

Clen on the other hand has a mild anti-diuretic e ect that actually
makes you look leaner while you are on it.

My face and body never looks as aesthetic as it does while at a low


level of body fat and on Clen (except when I take diuretics but thats
temporary).

T3 doesnt cause you to hold water, nor does it expel water at a


heightened rate.

So, while on Clen + T3 they will actually give you the illusion of being
slightly leaner, while on DNP though you will look depleted and watery
until you drop it.

DNP Burns More Fat. BUT


DNP burns far more fat than any other fat-burning compound out
there, and even arguably burns more fat on its own than even a
combination of all of the other fat burning drugs combined.

However, in my experience, DNP seems to excel at burning fat while


you are at a very particular level of body composition.

Lets delve into that more below:

DNP Is Better For Double Digit Body Fat %


But Clen + T3 Is Better For Single Digit
Body Fat %
The most notable thing I have found with DNP is that it is far better to
use when in the double digits of body fat %.

DNP is notorious for stimulating appetite, and while you may be one of
the lucky ones who dont get that side e ect, I get it VERY BADLY.

When I take anything over 200mg of DNP I am ravenous all day long.

Not only does stimulating my appetite make dieting torturous, but


once I get to single digit levels of body fat %, my calories are so low
that having a heightened appetite makes getting leaner for me
virtually impossible.

Not only that, but I have noticed that even when I stick to my guns and
endure the torture of being starving all day while on DNP in the single
digit levels of body fat %, I dont lose fat that easily, or much at all.

This is where I came to the conclusion that for me personally (and


likely a lot of you too), the best time for DNP use is when you are in the
double digits of body fat %, and are trying to cut down to the single
digits.

At this point, you are still eating enough calories and not doing such an
insane amount of cardio that a heightened appetite wont be a huge
detriment to you because it wont be that di cult to stick to your
caloric allotment, and fat will MELT o you when you are over 10%
body fat while on DNP.

For example, getting from 20% to 10% body fat on DNP for me is
exponentially easier than it is for me to get from 10% to 6% body fat
on DNP.
I nd once you hit 10% there is a big sticking point, and other fat
burning compounds start to be more useful at this stage than DNP.

Anything above 10% though, DNP is fantastic for.

Once 10% is reached, I feel that Clen + T3 is a more e ective choice, as


they dont stimulate your appetite as badly as DNP can (T3 will a bit,
but not as much as DNP).

They also seem to just perform much better in the sub 10% range than
DNP does for whatever reason.

If I was to utilize these compounds, I would cut using DNP down to


10% body fat, and then drop it and add in Clen + T3 to take me from
10% to 5-6% body fat.

DNP Is Healthier
While DNP isnt healthy by any means, it isnt exactly bad for you
either unless you take too much or dont stay hydrated (or any other
common sense precautions you should take with it).

T3 also isnt unhealthy unless you take too much as it can then start to
cause cardiovascular issues.

Clen on the other hand though, is very taxing on the cardiovascular


system, even at moderate dosages.

I try to limit my Clen usage to the absolute minimum possible time I


need it to take me from 10% to 5-6% body fat, and other than that
speci c scenario, I never touch it.
It puts quite the strain on the heart, and is even hypothesized by some
to cause heart necrosis.

While this is just a rumor that is debated about online for the most
part, there are very few (if any) reported cases of any long-term
complications caused by Clenbuterol use, however, this doesnt mean
that Clen use should be taken lightly.

It can be surmised that short-term use of it can be utilized once in a


while to achieve your fat-loss goals without much risk, but using the
compound long-term, or using too high of a dosage (even short-term)
will surely (in my opinion) result in some long-term cardiovascular
related complications.

My approach to fat loss is to use hardcore stimulant type products like


Clen ONLY when absolutely necessary, and to limit their use as much
as possible.

DNP does not exhibit any stimulant like e ects at all, so it should be a
much safer alternative to Clen, Ephedrine, and all other hardcore
category stimulants.

DNP Will Stimulate Your Appetite A Lot


More Than Clen + T3 Will
One of the hardest parts of dieting is having to stick to a very strict
caloric allotment in a de cit.

Eventually, as you get leaner and leaner, your Leptin levels (the satiety
hormone produced by fat cells) will get lower and lower until you are
essentially hungry all day long.
DNP in many individuals will stimulate the hell out of your appetite,
and make you WAY hungrier.

Imagine being in a super depleted state where you are already


starving, and then adding an appetite stimulator to the mix.

Its a recipe for disaster.

That is just another reason why I feel that DNP serves its purpose best
at higher levels of body fat, when your Leptin levels are higher, and
you can actually manage the appetite stimulation side e ect of DNP
without wanting to kill yourself, or binging and completely ruining your
diet.

In Conclusion
As you can see, it isnt as cut and dry as one compound is better than
the other, as they all serve a purpose in di erent scenarios that will
each have a certain amount of pros and cons that will ultimately
determine which is more appropriate for that particular situation.

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Comments

Blake says
June 10, 2017 at 5:35 am

Just curious have you tried all 3 together in a low dose format?

Say 100-250dnp ED

20-40mcg clen perday

50 mcg t3 per day

I feel like this stack along with 350 test & tren would get most everyone
diced quickly as long as there diets reasonable.

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Derek says
June 10, 2017 at 7:35 am

The low dose format you propose would only be e ective until
your body adjusts to that Clen dose after a few weeks, and then itll
just be like running low DNP and medium/high T3 for the most
part.

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yoyo says
June 12, 2017 at 1:57 pm

what would be considered a low dose of dnp? most other articles i


read about it says its gonna kill you lol. Im an older guy 38, and im
probably in the 23% body fat range or more. What would a cycle look
like? Im trying to get my shit together, and getting in shape is the 1st
step i chose to do that.

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Derek says
June 12, 2017 at 2:53 pm

I think 250mg or lower is a low dose, but thats my individual


opinion.

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yoyo says
June 12, 2017 at 5:42 pm

gotcha! guess its better to start on the safe side, would that
kind of dose yield noticeable results?

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Derek says
June 13, 2017 at 2:10 am

Yes if you are eating in a calorie de cit.

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Evan Bageris says
June 18, 2017 at 8:54 pm

I think you make some good points but the comparison strikes me as
somewhat arbitrary. What I mean is there are in nite ways of getting
into contest shape and DNP followed by Clen/T3 is one that probably is
not going to be smooth sailing for many competitors. If you are at 15%
why would you look to DNP to get you to ten. If you only have 3 days
but youre too fat @ 15% so clan up the diet and add a separate
session of cardio. Start at 16 weeks and getting to 10% might take you
4-6 with co ee before cardio on an empty stomach. So now you have
some momentum and why would you get to a sticking point. I think
what you mean is now you can actually tell people you are in contest
prep phase without getting laughed at. Next o season, dont go above
10%. In a pinch ECA and T3 are a much better choice. You gotta sleep,
and you gotta train. Clen had its day, but 36 hours..

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Derek says
June 18, 2017 at 9:26 pm

This article is a comparison between DNP and Clen + T3. Of course


you can get shredded without any of them. That isnt the point of
the article. The point is to compare them and elaborate on my
opinion about which is better in which scenarios and why. Did I say
you need to run DNP every time you want to get to 10%? No.
Because you dont. I actually prefer cutting without DNP because I
dont like how tired and run down it makes me.
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Evan Bageris says


June 25, 2017 at 9:46 pm

I am sorry, Derek, I didnt realize you would take my post


personally. You make some good points, the world is a safe
place. People like and respect you. You are probably very
handsome. That is what I meant to say, but I am not the
professional writer that you are so it came out jumbled. I take it
all back. Thank you for giving me a chance to say what I really
meant. You are a kind man. Good luck,
Evan

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Derek says
June 25, 2017 at 9:53 pm

I was just responding to your comment as I think you


misinterpreted the purpose of the article and some of the
points in it. That is all. Nothing was taken personally at all
brother.

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Evan Bageris says


June 30, 2017 at 5:20 am
Thank you for responding. I think you have done a great
job with this site. Obviously I do, because I read almost
everything you put out. This site is a little like John
Does, which I mean as a compliment. You are a better
writer and have him in the physique department as well
I believe, but he is a diabetic so well give him some
credit. Really though, great job on all your work.

Derek says
June 30, 2017 at 7:05 am

Thank you for the kind words Evan, I appreciate it.

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