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1st August 2011,

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Project Land Rover

catchkumar
BHPian
Hi All,
I have paid advance to pick the Land rover of pictures below -

The vehicle is in the North & by mid month it should be in Bangalore.
My plan is to cut the chassis & make it look like a Defender 90.
Join Date: Feb
2010 I am a complete newbie to the technical side of things.
Location: Any help / suggestions & advices will be highly appreciated.
Bangalore
Posts: 129 Thanks & regards,
Thanked: 44 Times
Kumar
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1st August 2011, 21:49 #2
Re: Project Land Rover

SirAlec
Senior - BHPian
This is a series III, the 109 wheelbase one.
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: zxc Oh! boy its in pretty battered state.
Posts: 3,394
Thanked: 656 Times
However old maybe, cutting LR chassis is not an easy affair. Also you need a very competitive MIG
welder to wield the body work, as its aluminum all the way.
What engine does it have.? how much did you paid for it.
If you need technical data you can PM me your mail will send you stuff in pdfs.
PS: why don't you create a four door crew cab instead. I have similar plans for a LR but have lot of
other works at hand currently. hence no time for hobbies.
Last edited by SirAlec : 1st August 2011 at 21:51.
1st August 2011, 21:58 #3

IQBAL VEERJI
Senior - BHPian
Quote:
Originally Posted by catchkumar

Hi All,
I have paid advance to pick the Land rover of pictures below -

The vehicle is in the North & by mid month it should be in Bangalore.
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: SAAT BUNGLA,
BAMBAI. My plan is to cut the chassis & make it look like a Defender 90.
Posts: 1,040 I am a complete newbie to the technical side of things.
Thanked: 279 Times Any help / suggestions & advices will be highly appreciated.
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Thanks & regards,

Kumar
Our most respected Landy lover, restorer,know every things about Landy is our beloved Sudarshan ji
from pune.
He will guide you in all respects and will also help you to solve many problems you will aalso face
problems with parts which will be solved by him .He has a landy in pune. Am I right sudarshan ji?
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1st August 2011, 22:08 #4

catchkumar
BHPian
Quote:
Originally Posted by SirAlec

This is a series III, the 109 wheelbase one.
Oh! boy its in pretty battered state.

Join Date: Feb 2010 However old maybe, cutting LR chassis is not an easy affair. Also you need a very competitive
Location: Bangalore MIG welder to wield the body work, as its aluminum all the way.
Posts: 129
Thanked: 44 Times
What engine does it have.? how much did you paid for it.
If you need technical data you can PM me your mail will send you stuff in pdfs.
PS: why don't you create a four door crew cab instead. I have similar plans for a LR but have lot
of other works at hand currently. hence no time for hobbies.
Hi Sir Alec,
It has a Parkinson diesel engine.

The gear box is missing hence a MM550 gearbox with 4x4 transfer case is put in the load bay so.. not
fitted on the vehicle.
I would need all possible help & pdf's to bring this dream back on track.
I have seen a video of complete restoration of a 100" wheelbase range rover to defender hybrid.
I don't mind a 100" as well but a 90" will make it a dream come true.
I have sent a PM to you with more details of this vehicle.
Sudarshan sir has also mentioned that its a very very difficult job to shorten the chassis.
I have started to wonder if am doing the right thing by picking this vehicle now.
Please advice.
Regards,
Kumar
1st August
#5
2011, 23:03

SirAlec
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Quote:
BHPian
Join Date:
Sep 2006 Hi Sir Alec,
Location: zxc
Posts: 3,394 It has a Parkinson diesel engine.
Thanked: The gear box is missing hence a MM550 gearbox with 4x4 transfer case is put in the load bay so.. not fitted on
656 Times
the vehicle.
I would need all possible help & pdf's to bring this dream back on track.
I don't mind a 100" as well but a 90" will make it a dream come true.
I have sent a PM to you with more details of this vehicle.
Sudarshan sir has also mentioned that its a very very difficult job to shorten the chassis.
I have started to wonder if am doing the right thing by picking this vehicle now.
Please advice.
Regards,
Kumar
So its not in an original state. i suspected that
i have seen the video. It a conversion of 100 inch Range Rover to Defender. and not a series to defender. which is
unique in its own right as Defender comes in three wheel bases 90, 110, 130 but not in 100.
Believe me you will never go wrong when you pick a LR. They say 75% that ever came out of Solihull are till on
roads". Its the question of time and patience that you have to spare.
Like i said making it into a crew cab would be a viable option. With big bull bars at the rear. i am planing to do the
same.
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Some examples.
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1st August 2011, 23:05 #6

svsantosh
Senior - BHPian
Quote:

It has a Parkinson diesel engine
PERKINS, you mean?
Join Date: Mar 2008 Quote:

Location: Hosur
Posts: 3,308 I have started to wonder if am doing the right thing by picking this vehicle now
Thanked: 1,375 Times
View My Garage Well, when it comes to jeeps, landies, jongas - one can never go wrong. Your spirit is commendable...
Beware, this project can really give you Parkinson's!!! You are a sucker for jeep trouble, if you get my
drift...
1st August 2011, 23:07 #7

SirAlec
Senior - BHPian
^^^
Join Date: Sep 2006 no there is a less heard company Parkinson.
Location: zxc
Posts: 3,394
Thanked: 656 Times
2nd August 2011, 06:55 #8

Sudarshan
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Quote:
Join Date: Apr 2010 Originally Posted by IQBAL VEERJI
Location: Pune
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Posts: 1,201
Thanked: 822 Times Our most respected Landy lover,== Am I right sudarshan ji?
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Sirji , thanks for the compliments , this is more than I actually deserve , thanks again .
Quote:

It has a Parkinson diesel engine.
The gear box is missing hence a MM550 gearbox with 4x4 transfer case is put in the load bay
so.. not fitted on the vehicle.
dont put that engine on the landy Its an old timer P 4 engine which used to come with the Mahindra FC
, its a load carrier engine very noisy & much vibrations , also you will need a different bell housing to go
with mm GB
Options
1) give the engine back to dealer & get rebate
2) get a XD 3 P engine 2400 cc approx ( peugeot --larger than the XDP 4.90 --2112 cc engine ) this will
suit with the MM gear box
3) get an original LR engine + Gearbox ( difficult to find )
Quote:
Have seen it also , see it again . Check out the workmanship involved , its not that easy to get it done
here by ' our ' mechs .This was done abroad (UK ) where they get any part easily
Quote:
Originally Posted by SirAlec

Like i said making it into a crew cab would be a viable option. With big bull bars at the rear. i
am planing to do the same.
This IS THE BEST that can be done with rhis vehicle
Quote:
Originally Posted by svsantosh

PERKINS, you mean?
A P4 engine used to go on MM s FC . Load carrier very rough engine
My Suggestions ( if its your first L R & you are Novice )
1) Forget the cutting & re welding the chassis , alterations with the body is another -----
2) get rid of the P4 engine , get a peugeot along with KMT 90 gear box & T 18 transfer case will be easy
for parts & all
3) crew cab conversion is the best in current scenario ( as suggested above )
A Landy chassis is a box section & its not uniform in shape like the old Jeep C section so repairs arnt
easy will need a very very expert hand + a workshop that has the necessary infrastructure & most
importantly ' Interest & time for you --- you will get ripped
The Body is aluminum , with rivets all over Very tricky to weld & get in to original shape & strength if
damaged
Sudarshan
Last edited by Sudarshan : 2nd August 2011 at 06:57.
2nd August 2011,

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13:05

Sudarshan
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for reference the chassis drawings of 109 " wheel base Landy , tell me where to cut , to reduce the length
Join Date: Apr
2010
Location: Pune
Posts: 1,201
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Times
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this is a 88 " wheel base chassis ( for comparison with the 109" )
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Sudarshan
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2nd August 2011, 23:35 #10

catchkumar
BHPian
Hi All,
Thanks a lot for all your valuable inputs.

Am in a BIG state of confusion now my main objective to pick this LR was to convert it into 90" WB &
my biggest mistake was not to have checked with the experts here like sudharshan ji, Sir Alec & all the
others who are a treasure trove on land rovers.
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Bangalore I wanted a SWB so that i can use it as a daily drive too & the 110" is practically an over kill for this
Posts: 129 purpose in Bangalore hence if i cant cut it short then i will have to shelve the plan sadly.
Thanked: 44 Times
What do i do now is a big question mark which i guess i will have to sort out between my heart & mind.
There was only 1 person who said the chassis cut job is doable in the right hands & my only last hope is
to see how feasible this would be & discuss the costs involved in case i decide to do it.
The last thing i can do but sadly is to let somebody who is a LR enthusiast & wants to have a series 3 to
pick it.
Guess its going to be a week of decisions & discussions with a lot of people.
Thanks sudharshan sir & sir Alec for your inputs - I will update this thread & send a PM to all updating
the plan of action.
Regards,
Kumar
Last edited by catchkumar : 2nd August 2011 at 23:46.
3rd August 2011, 13:29 #11

Baburajs
BHPian
I also think that cutting the chasis and making it to 90 may be an idea that may not be practical
because of the lack of skilled man power and parts in this part of the world .
Best thing to do it to wait for getting one( i know it may take forever ) or get it and keep it the way it is
. As Sudarshan said get a good XD3P engine ( or a Scorpio turbo engine - dont remember the technical
name ) and a compatible gear box (BA-10 will be good ) and transfer case and rebuild it as it is .
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Bangalore
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Posts: 265
Thanked: 14 Times
Babu
6th December 2011, 16:50 #12

voodoochild
BHPian
Hello catchkumar,
Sorry to bump the thread, but what's the status of the project? Seems like quite a tedious project, but
very very interesting!
Lets hope you've had some significant breakthrough.

Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Pune, Bangalore Cheers
Posts: 419 Rahul
Thanked: 174 Times
24th December 2011, 10:32 #13

binu balan
BHPian
Quote:
Originally Posted by voodoochild

Hello catchkumar,
Sorry to bump the thread, but what's the status of the project?
Join Date: Jan 2010 Its scraped due to the complications and reliability of a cut chasis
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 67
Thanked: 9 Times
24th December 2011, 11:58 #14

Anupam
BHPian
Quote:

Hi All,
Am in a BIG state of confusion now my main objective to pick this LR was to convert it into 90"
WB & my biggest mistake was not to have checked with the experts here like sudharshan ji, Sir
Join Date: Mar 2006
Alec & all the others who are a treasure trove on land rovers.
Location: Pune - India
Posts: 259
Thanked: 37 Times The last thing i can do but sadly is to let somebody who is a LR enthusiast & wants to have a
series 3 to pick it.
View My Garage
Hi CK, did you finally pick the car? if not then can you please PM the details
Thanks
Anupam
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1st August 2011,

I have paid advance to pick the Land rover of pictures below -

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1st August 2011, 21:49 #2

Re: Project Land Rover

1st August 2011, 21:58 #3

Re: Project Land Rover

Originally Posted by catchkumar

I have paid advance to pick the Land rover of pictures below -

3 sur 11 16/10/2017 21:13

Thanks & regards,

1st August 2011, 22:08 #4

Re: Project Land Rover

Originally Posted by SirAlec

Oh! boy its in pretty battered state.

It has a Parkinson diesel engine.

Re: Project Land Rover

So its not in an original state. i suspected that

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Last edited by SirAlec : 1st August 2011 at 23:05.

1st August 2011, 23:05 #6

Re: Project Land Rover

Originally Posted by catchkumar

PERKINS, you mean?

Join Date: Mar 2008 Quote:

1st August 2011, 23:07 #7

Re: Project Land Rover

2nd August 2011, 06:55 #8

Re: Project Land Rover

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Originally Posted by catchkumar

3) get an original LR engine + Gearbox ( difficult to find )

Originally Posted by SirAlec

This IS THE BEST that can be done with rhis vehicle

Originally Posted by svsantosh

A P4 engine used to go on MM s FC . Load carrier very rough engine

My Suggestions ( if its your first L R & you are Novice )

3) crew cab conversion is the best in current scenario ( as suggested above )

2nd August 2011,

Re: Project Land Rover

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2nd August 2011, 23:35 #10

Re: Project Land Rover

Thanks a lot for all your valuable inputs.

3rd August 2011, 13:29 #11

Re: Project Land Rover

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6th December 2011, 16:50 #12

Re: Project Land Rover

Lets hope you've had some significant breakthrough.

24th December 2011, 10:32 #13

Re: Project Land Rover

Originally Posted by voodoochild

24th December 2011, 11:58 #14

Re: Project Land Rover