OPSTI DEO

Page 16. Q345B is not equivalent to S355. Structural steel with characteristics defined in
standard should be used (ductility, weldability, strength, thermal properties, toughest etc.)

NUMERICAL

Page 53. Clarify how it is possible that wind force according to Chinese standard is several
times larger than according to Serbian or Eurocode regulations. It appear that in one
direction this difference is 3 times, in other direction approximately 10 times.

Page 53. Calculation based on rough comparation of the resultant reaction obtained by two
different standards for wind is not acceptable, and could lead to mistakes. Calculation should
be based on calculation model with loads applied in correct way. ESP casing have to be
modelled, with its stiffness, geometry, and wind load pressure applied, than reactions may
be calculated in structure that has statically non determined.
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Hi!

How we design punching shear reinforcement edge of slab

Solved by Artur.Kosakowski. Go to Solution.

Solved by mustafahesenow. Go to Solution.

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mustafahesenow

in reply to: Nissar59

09-25-2017 01:27 AM

Re: Punching desgin

Hi @Nissar59

Its normal as the other one by provided reinforcement module (punching ) or by checking of
shear stress map manually

Mustafa Hesenow
Senior Structural Design Engineer/MZP
LinkedIn

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 Artur.Kosakowski

in reply to: Nissar59

09-25-2017 01:38 AM

Re: Punching desgin

Hi @Nissar59

To illustrate what @mustafahesenow (thank you) wrote about the RC Slab provided
reinforcement module punching check I'm attaching the slide from the 5th Robot webinar:
Punching Shear Verification

Dear Sir
I got confused , how did the ROBOT calculate the following requirements using (ACI318-
08M & Euro code 2).

 Max. punching force.

 Punching perimeter.

 Admissible punching force by the used code .

My queries are shown on the attached captures (ROBOT results). also, ROBOT files(both
codes) are attached.

As well , I made verification to my hand calculation by (SAFE software) for the same
example.

I found out that ROBOT gives different results for above requirements.

Please , Could you take a look to the attached captures and files for both (ROBOT&SAFE) ,
and verify this topic?

http://www.2shared.com/file/O-8G8gVU/Captures__Files.html

Note : please , if you want to use captures for explanation . Kindly,

send it as attached.

Your fast a action will be appreciated.

Thanks

Refaat .

Message 2 of 7

Refaat
in reply to: Refaat
12-11-2012 01:27 AM

Re: Punching Shear Verification

Dear Sir

I got confused , how did the ROBOT calculate the following requirements using (ACI318-
08M & Euro code 2).

 Max. punching force.

 Punching perimeter.

 Admissible punching force by the used code .

My queries are shown on the attached captures (ROBOT results). also, ROBOT files(both
codes) are attached.

As well , I made verification to my hand calculation by (SAFE software) for the same
example.

I found out that ROBOT gives different results for above requirements.

Please , Could you take a look to the attached captures and files for both (ROBOT&SAFE) ,
and verify this topic?

http://www.2shared.com/file/hieICxV2/Captures__Files.html

Note : please , if you want to use captures for explanation . Kindly, send it as attached.

Thanks in advance

Refaat .

Message 3 of 7
 Artur.Kosakowski
in reply to: Refaat
12-11-2012 01:43 AM

Re: Punching Shear Verification

Refaat,

We need some time to investigate this. For EC2 at first glance it seems that Robot checks two
variants of the critical perimeter (full circle and the one shown on the pictures you attached
and selects the most unfavorable one.

Artur Kosakowski
Message 4 of 7

Artur.Kosakowski
in reply to: Refaat
12-12-2012 02:04 AM

Re: Punching Shear Verification

I got confused , how did the ROBOT calculate the following requirements using ACI318-
08M

 Punching perimeter.
Please check the attached files.

Artur Kosakowski
4751_001.pdf 9 KB
4750_001.pdf 19 KB
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Refaat
in reply to: Artur.Kosakowski
12-12-2012 03:41 AM
61. It is not clear where are presented seismic forces from ESP casing to ESP supporting
structure? Vertical reactions represent only weight of the structure at top of the columns.
Additional vertical reactions shall be calculated due to moments that will develop from
seismic action on ESP casing. Additional horizontal forces shall be calculated due to seismic
actions to ESP casing and applied to appropriate supports.

Page 62. As ESP supporting structure supports are close to each other, it is necessary to
take into consideration soil deformation on larger area, due to interference of compression
stress in soil between all of the column foundation. Soil deformation shall be also
considered in the 3d model, as foundation settlements even if they have similar stress will
not be the same.

Page 62. Due to soil characteristic consolidation settlement have to be considered.