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10-05-2016, 03:39 AM #1

SurfGuruJeff DIY Flex Fuel Kit for under $100


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Member#: 148974 Update: 10/17/2016 - if you followed the previous schematic, the resistor and cap were reversed. The correction has been made and the new
Join Date: May 2007 schematic uploaded.
Chapter/Region: SCIC Update: 10/26/2016 - if you used a 10uF capacitor before, switch to a 0.1uF capacitor on your RC filter
Location: San Diego
Vehicle: Update: 10/31/2016 - this DIY just got simpler... no need for an RC filter, just use a 3.3k ohm resistor on the Pin 11 output and you'll be fine.
2010 4x4 Silverado
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First, credit to Daniel aka Dala on the sr20 forum for getting the ball rolling on this and for the help with trouble shooting and general “walk
me through this” stuff. His thread on using an Arduino board to create a Flex Fuel ethanol content analyzer is a helpful resource, but it is a bit
cluttered and there were a couple things wrong in that thread and in the code. Here is the link for reference. http://www.sr20-
forum.com/nismotroni...or-output.html

The problem? – Flex Fuel sensors on the market put out information in the form of a frequency between 50-150hz, so they don’t put out 5v,
which is what many engine management systems need. In this case we’re talking about the Cobb Accessport V3.
The solution – program an Arduino Nano board to convert the signal into a pulse width modulated (pwm) signal that feeds a voltage number
that the AP can use to interpret the ethanol content.

Things you’ll need (I’ll leave out basics like wire, solder iron, etc):
- Arduino Nano $7 (Amazon link)
- 4.7k ohm resistor $1
- 3.3k ohm resistor $1
- 8v 1amp Voltage Regulator $2 (I used this one)
- Delphi connector plus terminals seals and locks $2.70 plus $7.99 shipping. (O’Reilly Auto actually had them with a pigtail in stock)
- Flex Fuel Sensor GM Part Number 13577429 (Amazon) or 13577379 $50 – I even picked an extra one up from the dealership for $65.
- Dorman 800-082 3/8” quick fuel connects if using -6an fuel lines $8.73
- Rear O2 sensor connector $8-$10
- TGV Connector $7-$10

Let’s start with how to wire the Arduino board.


- Power the Arduino using an 8v Voltage Regulator. The VR's 12v source will come from the Rear O2 +12v along with the Rear O2 ground wire,
or use a known good +12v switched source and ground wherever makes the most sense (can also use a relay - make sure it's switched by
ignition "On"). The center pin of the VR will ground to the Nano labeled "GND" (where you will also solder your rear O2 ground wire), and the
VR's 8v output will go to "VIN" on the Nano.
- Your sensor’s output will be received by input pin 8 on the Arduino Nano board. It will first need a +5v pull-up resistor using the 5v pin on the
Nano and a 4.7k ohm resistor.
- The Nano will output through a pwm pin, either pin 3 or pin 11. We will use pin 11 in this case.
- To make the pwm from pin 11 a more steady voltage for the ECU to read, we need to use a 3.3k ohm resistor.
- The output from pin 11 will then feed into a free TGV input pin/wire. In my case I used the LH side TGV.
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*The connector for the sensor isn't a direct fit, so you'll have to trim the two tabs that keep it from sliding together.
Next, the code:
- I have included the Serial.print functions so that you can troubleshoot using the serial monitor window in the Arduino IDE on your computer.
Code:

/*******************************************************
This program will sample a 50-150hz signal depending on ethanol
content, and output a 0-5V signal via PWM.
The LCD (for those using an Arduino Uno + LCD shield) will display ethanol content, hz

Connect PWM output to TGV. 3.3kOhm resistor works fine.

Input pin 8 (PB0) ICP1 on Atmega328


Output pin 3 or 11, defined below

If LCD Keypad shield is used, solder jumper from Pin 8 - Pin 2,


and snip leg from pin 8 http://i.imgur.com/KdlLmye.png
********************************************************/

// include the library code:


#include <LiquidCrystal.h> //LCD plugin

// initialize the library with the numbers of the interface pins


LiquidCrystal lcd(2, 9, 4, 5, 6, 7); //LCD Keypad Shield

int inpPin = 8; //define input pin to 8


int outPin = 11; //define PWM output, possible pins with LCD and 32khz freq. are 3

//Define global variables


volatile uint16_t revTick; //Ticks per revolution
uint16_t pwm_output = 0; //integer for storing PWM value (0-255 value)
int HZ; //unsigned 16bit integer for storing HZ input
int ethanol = 0; //Store ethanol percentage here
float expectedv; //store expected voltage here - range for typical GM sen

int duty; //Duty cycle (0.0-100.0)


float period; //Store period time here (eg.0.0025 s)
fl t t t 0 //St f l t t h

- Download drivers and the IDE interface to your computer and make sure you have communication with your Arduino via USB.
- Upload the sketch to your Arduino Nano.

Powering the Arduino Nano and the Flex Fuel Sensor:


- For powering the Arduino, we need to drop down from +12v to +7-9v for the Arduino to safely operate. We will use an 8v 1amp voltage
regulator. Another solution is a simple USB car charger that outputs +5v for cell phones, etc. Try to stick with 5v and 1amp (1000mah).
- Pull your +12v using the rear O2 sensor (I cut the harness off of my stock O2 sensor since it was deleted to make way for AEM UEGO). This
will power both the Arduino and the Flex Fuel Sensor. (if you’re not sure which wire is +12v, use a simple voltage/circuit tester to check the pins
on the harness)
Connecting to TGV wire
- Make sure to find the right pin on your TGV wire harness. This is what will use the output from pin 11 from the Arduino Nano.

***Testing (for if you feel like getting techie, otherwise if everything works when you plug it all in, then you’re golden!)
- For quick testing, you can monitor your TGV voltage on your AP or engine management software to see if the Arduino is working (0.5v = 0%
ethanol, 2.5v = 50%, etc.), otherwise start by changing your map to setup for Ethanol (I had my tuner do it for me) and see if it looks accurate
by monitoring "Ethanol Raw" or "Ethanol Final". Cobb’s Flex Fuel Tuning Guide
- Make sure your Arduino’s power light comes on when you turn your ignition to “On”
- If you confirmed that the Arduino is receiving power, disconnect the wires that are powering the unit and plug in a USB cable from your
Laptop.
- With your laptop connected to the Arduino, open Arduino IDE software on your computer and hit Ctrl+Shift+M to open the monitor window.
Turn the ignition back to "On". Every second it will refresh with 4 things being monitored; Ethanol(%), PWM output, expected voltage output (AP
should reflect the same number as this), and Hz.
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- You may not have any numbers show up in the window, or they may look way off, so this is important… YOU MUST USE SOMETHING TO
GROUND THE ARDUINO TO THE CAR when the USB cable is plugged into the laptop, otherwise it will not pull readings from the sensor. THIS IS
NOT TRUE when the Arduino is powered by the car. I used my circuit tester and connected the alligator clip straight to the negative battery
terminal, then touch the outer USB housing to ground it. Once you do this, the serial monitor window should be scrolling some numbers.
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- The math for deriving ethanol content from the Hz frequency of the sensor is simple. E = Hz-50. For example, 100Hz – 50 = E50. 150Hz – 50
= E100
- If you have an oscilloscope or multimeter you can confirm that the Arduino is matching the exact frequency of the sensor output (more on that
if somebody runs into a problem on this).
- The voltage range will be 0.5v for 0% ethanol, and 4.5v for E100

Drive around and make sure everything is fine. Content should be within 1% accuracy.

If all is well, then congratulations! You just saved yourself $500!!!


Finish up by enclosing everything in a waterproof container and using strain reliefs for the wiring going into the box. Small marine containers or
similar products meant for keeping your cell phone safe when around water are good options for enclosing your Arduino Nano.

*For adding in an LCD, the code is already in the sketch, but you’ll need to go to the link provided to the sr20 forum on how to jump a pin to
make the LCD work (using Arduino Uno)

**Also included in the code is output for fuel temperature, which I think Subarus already have??? So that’s not really necessary, and your other
TGV is better off being used for reading fuel pressure.

***Voltage output from Nano board to Nano board may vary a few percent. If your Ethanol number looks a bit off (ie- you know your ethanol %
should be 85% but it reads 81%), then you'll just need to edit the pwm_output multiplier in the code. Edit this line pwm_output = 1.1 * (255 *
(expectedv/5.0)); //calculate output PWM for ECU and change 1.1 up or down to get the correct output (note- you should only need to adjust in
0.01 increments)

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10-05-2016, 09:53 AM #2

SurfGuruJeff
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HZ from FF Sensor can be measured with a multimeter and using a 4.7k pull-up resistor from the +12v

Last edited by SurfGuruJeff; 10-31-2016 at 06:09 PM.

10-05-2016, 02:39 PM #3

chchchino
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Member#: 303355 TGV Connector I believe is this http://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/pro...oducts_id/3202


Join Date: Dec 2011
anyway good to see others have come up with a cheaper alternative. nice work

10-05-2016, 03:43 PM #4

SurfGuruJeff
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Quote:
Member#: 148974
Join Date: May 2007 Originally Posted by chchchino
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: San Diego TGV Connector I believe is this http://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/pro...oducts_id/3202
Vehicle:
2010 4x4 Silverado anyway good to see others have come up with a cheaper alternative. nice work
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Nice find! I'm going to order one. They charge an extra $3 for small quantity orders, though.

10-05-2016, 04:29 PM #5

chchchino
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might as well get 2, and do a fuel pressure sensor setup. Im not sure which was the correct size 5/16 or 3/8 but you can easily find either size
Member#: 303355
Join Date: Dec 2011 once you confirm the size of the fitting on the factory fuel rail.

5/16
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/nex-16190/overview/

3/8
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/nex-16185/overview/

with the adapter, you can go any pressure sensor setup you like.
Last edited by chchchino; 10-05-2016 at 04:38 PM.

10-05-2016, 04:40 PM #6

lookylookitzadam
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Member#: 348254 This is awesome! Going to read into it a bit more later.
Join Date: Feb 2013
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: San Diego, CA
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10-07-2016, 11:00 AM #7

SurfGuruJeff
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I read in Cobb's Flex Fuel Tuning guide this "To power the external sensor hardware, assuming the device is a normal automotive sensor and
draws low current, you may use the 5v circuit present at the TGV connector"

It seems that - if you have deleted your TGVs - you can just use the pin in the above picture to feed power to the Arduino instead of borrowing
power from the rear O2 +12v wire and then adding a USB car charger to step it down to +5v. This get's rid of a few feet of cable, and frees up
space inside the waterproof box (link) to house to Arduino.
I'll be re-writing up this how-to based on using the TGV plug for the 5v source after I test it out. The option to use 12v from another source with
the USB car charger step-down will be the secondary option.

***Update October 26, 2016 --- using the +5v source from the TGV did not have enough amperage to feed the Arduino's output needs, so do
not use the TGV +5v source. Use a USB car charger, or an 8v voltage regulator hooked to a +12v switched source (rear O2 sensor wiring).
Last edited by SurfGuruJeff; 10-26-2016 at 08:03 PM.

10-07-2016, 11:35 AM #8

peekeesh
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Member#: 316476 Nice! Can this be tuned with cobb?


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10-07-2016, 11:37 AM #9

SurfGuruJeff
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Quote:
Member#: 148974
Join Date: May 2007 Originally Posted by peekeesh
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: San Diego Nice! Can this be tuned with cobb?
Vehicle:
2010 4x4 Silverado
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10-07-2016, 12:24 PM #10

chchchino
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Quote:
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Join Date: Dec 2011 Originally Posted by SurfGuruJeff
Uhhhhhhhhh....

lol

If you wanted to loose the adruino and get something that takes 12v native, you could try something like this:

http://www.eidusa.com/Interface_Boards_F_to_V.htm

or build something off the millions of frequency to voltage circuit board schematics on google.

The only issues I could see would be the the voltage scale output on this board. Although this could be changed with the "Ethanol Sensor DTC
Limit (Voltage)(High)/(Low)" table and the "Ethanol Sensor Calibration" table.

10-07-2016, 01:18 PM #11

SurfGuruJeff
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Quote:
Member#: 148974
Join Date: May 2007 Originally Posted by chchchino
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: San Diego lol
Vehicle:
2010 4x4 Silverado If you wanted to loose the adruino and get something that takes 12v native, you could try something like this:
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http://www.eidusa.com/Interface_Boards_F_to_V.htm

or build something off the millions of frequency to voltage circuit board schematics on google.

The only issues I could see would be the the voltage scale output on this board. Although this could be changed with the "Ethanol Sensor
DTC Limit (Voltage)(High)/(Low)" table and the "Ethanol Sensor Calibration" table.

Yeah, that's always an option. I reckon you'd have to find one that had a frequency range specific to this application (50-150hz to 0.5-4.5v),
right?

The nice thing about the Arduino is that it is relatively simple and cheap, and it gives you a cheap way to view Ethanol content and fuel temp if
you get the LCD with it (Dala got the Arduino+LCD combo for $15 on ebay). This is helpful if you don't plan on actually using an auto-
adjustment feature in your tuning for ethanol content change. If your ethanol changes, just go load a different map.

The nearest thing to this is the Zeitronix unit for $200 just to read and display ethanol content (not including a sensor) with 0-5v outputs for
ethanol and fuel temp to your ECU.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNO-R3-BOARD...3D221735739266

10-08-2016, 01:52 PM #12

chchchino
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Member#: 303355 yea that site lists a 0-150hz to 0.5v module. you'd probably need to rescale for it in ATR so you can keep the custom cobb DTCs. getting a
Join Date: Dec 2011 gauge with the arduino does make it a good bargain, but having true flexfuel is the bees knees.

besides, the ethanol content only changes within the first 5 min after a fill up while you get fuel pumping and mixing. its not gonna change mid
drive. seeing that we are discussing injecting the 0-5v signal into the ecu, you would have the ability to check ethanol content on the AP even if
you didnt enable the flexfuel compensations.

anyways I hope this spurs others to try and experiment with their own flexfuel modules. this can only drive innovation.

10-08-2016, 01:56 PM #13

SurfGuruJeff
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Quote:
Member#: 148974
Join Date: May 2007 Originally Posted by chchchino
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: San Diego yea that site lists a 0-150hz to 0.5v module. you'd probably need to rescale for it in ATR so you can keep the custom cobb DTCs. getting
Vehicle: a gauge with the arduino does make it a good bargain, but having true flexfuel is the bees knees.
2010 4x4 Silverado
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besides, the ethanol content only changes within the first 5 min after a fill up while you get fuel pumping and mixing. its not gonna
change mid drive. seeing that we are discussing injecting the 0-5v signal into the ecu, you would have the ability to check ethanol
content on the AP even if you didnt enable the flexfuel compensations.

anyways I hope this spurs others to try and experiment with their own flexfuel modules. this can only drive innovation.

Amen! Yeah, I would love a smaller simpler solution. It seems that Cobb just made their own circuit board and it is very clean. Looks really
good.

Since I'm a total newb with electronics, I didn't undertake figuring out the exact way to wire up all the components.

10-08-2016, 05:06 PM #14

chchchino
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Member#: 303355 arguably the simplest solution is to buy the universal blueflex unit here and just wire in a tgv connector and 12v power. i believe this was sold
Join Date: Dec 2011 previously and now the creator has pulled the 08+ compatible version from the market due to a agreement with cobb. although not sub 100,
definitely sub 600 out the door with a sensor and some custom lines you can DIY.

10-08-2016, 06:57 PM #15

SurfGuruJeff
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Quote:
Member#: 148974
Join Date: May 2007 Originally Posted by chchchino
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: San Diego arguably the simplest solution is to buy the universal blueflex unit here and just wire in a tgv connector and 12v power. i believe this
Vehicle: was sold previously and now the creator has pulled the 08+ compatible version from the market due to a agreement with cobb. although
2010 4x4 Silverado not sub 100, definitely sub 600 out the door with a sensor and some custom lines you can DIY.
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That's a nice little signal converter and the bluetooth is a nice touch. I probably would have just bought that had I known about it! Haha

10-10-2016, 07:12 PM #16

SouthernScoobie
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Member#: 452491 Someone please inform a noob..


Join Date: Aug 2016
Vehicle: This is a flex fuel viewing kit, correct? This doesn't actually allow for tuning of flex fuel on the fly, does it?
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10-10-2016, 07:18 PM #17

SurfGuruJeff
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Quote:
Member#: 148974
Join Date: May 2007 Originally Posted by SouthernScoobie
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: San Diego Someone please inform a noob..
Vehicle:
2010 4x4 Silverado This is a flex fuel viewing kit, correct? This doesn't actually allow for tuning of flex fuel on the fly, does it?
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Wrong, actually. If your Engine Management allows for Flex Fuel tuning (like Cobb), then this is what you will need to tell it what the Ethanol
content is. It does so by feeding a 0.5v-4.5v signal to an ECU input (in this case either the Left or Right TGV signal wire).

0.5v = 0% ethanol, and 4.5v = 100% ethanol.

You can't just plug a Flex Fuel sensor straight to your Engine Management (with the exception of a couple standalone units), so this board
converts the sensor's frequency into a voltage, which the ECU/Engine Management can read.

10-10-2016, 07:25 PM #18

SouthernScoobie
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Quote:
Member#: 452491
Join Date: Aug 2016 Originally Posted by SurfGuruJeff
Vehicle:
2009 Impreza WRX Wrong, actually. If your Engine Management allows for Flex Fuel tuning (like Cobb), then this is what you will need to tell it what the
Grey Ethanol content is. It does so by feeding a 0.5v-4.5v signal to an ECU input (in this case either the Left or Right TGV signal wire).

0.5v = 0% ethanol, and 4.5v = 100% ethanol.

You can't just plug a Flex Fuel sensor straight to your Engine Management (with the exception of a couple standalone units), so this
board converts the sensor's frequency into a voltage, which the ECU/Engine Management can read.

Understood. So the cobb engine management would be the accessport?

So if I put this together and took it to a tuner, they would be able to tune it just like if I had the cobb flex kit? I've been confused about how the
flex fuel tune works anyway..

10-10-2016, 07:31 PM #19

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Join Date: May 2007 Originally Posted by SouthernScoobie
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: San Diego Understood. So the cobb engine management would be the accessport?
Vehicle:
2010 4x4 Silverado So if I put this together and took it to a tuner, they would be able to tune it just like if I had the cobb flex kit? I've been confused about
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how the flex fuel tune works anyway..

If your tuner already does Flex Fuel tuning, then yes.

10-10-2016, 07:48 PM #20

chchchino
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Member#: 303355 I would also talk to your tuner first about it. Being this is 3rd party hardware, some may be adverse to the idea, and if any issues pop up your
Join Date: Dec 2011 the only one who will be able to troubleshoot it.

10-11-2016, 09:18 AM #21

OralSTi
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Member#: 439255 Looks awesome! Definitely considering this.


Join Date: Jan 2016
Just figured I'd chime in though, although it's not a major portion of the cost, the Arduino can be replaced with a much smaller version at no
sacrifice. It's called an Arduino Nano and you can buy them for about $3.50 on eBay. Both are ATMega328P chips, one just has a slower USB to
UART so the program uploads slower.

10-11-2016, 10:31 AM #22

Titter
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Member#: 416107 you need to headline this post with "NOT FOR NOOBS"
Join Date: Mar 2015
Chapter/Region: International simply amazing. ty for sharing. very well put together.
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10-11-2016, 10:59 AM #23

SouthernScoobie
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Join Date: Aug 2016 Originally Posted by Titter
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2009 Impreza WRX you need to headline this post with "NOT FOR NOOBS"
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simply amazing. ty for sharing. very well put together.

I believe the writeup makes it noob friendly. I asked my question because a previous post made me question the use exactly. I've spent
hundreds of hours soldering, writing code (c++, HTML, java) and playing with projects like this. I just was unsure if what it gave was ACTUAL
useable information for the ecu.

This may not have been directed at me, but oh well. Noobs have to try too or we'll never learn.

10-11-2016, 01:16 PM #24

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Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: San Diego Looks awesome! Definitely considering this.
Vehicle:
2010 4x4 Silverado Just figured I'd chime in though, although it's not a major portion of the cost, the Arduino can be replaced with a much smaller version
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at no sacrifice. It's called an Arduino Nano and you can buy them for about $3.50 on eBay. Both are ATMega328P chips, one just has a
slower USB to UART so the program uploads slower.

Ooooh, I definitely want to see what I can do with the Nano. Smaller is certainly better. I think it just comes down to rearranging which pins
handle which job.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titter


you need to headline this post with "NOT FOR NOOBS"

simply amazing. ty for sharing. very well put together.

Haha. I know it's a bit complicated, but it's one of those projects that you just start at the beginning with and chip away at each step until
"voila!"

10-11-2016, 01:27 PM #25

OralSTi
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Member#: 439255 The other nice thing about the nano is that by default it comes without the headers populated, so you can just solder directly into the thru-holes
Join Date: Jan 2016
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MINI-USB-Nan...gAAOSwwo1XefsI

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