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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
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Plaintiff,
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ANDRES FELIPE ARIAS LEIVA,
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Defendant. MIAMI, FLORIDA
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6 United States.
11 the Court.
19 to.
22 Court today.
8 can find Arias Leiva for the again those offenses are
10 and I'm not going to revisit at that issue unless the Court
14 addition to quash the subpoenas this Court decided and that the
17 you.
23 you?
3 Official --
7 papers.
9 issues that they have raised. Going to the five elements that
19 element this Court has found in 18 U.S.C. 3184 gives this Court
24 that the treaty is not in effect. The other is that the case
3 Martinelli --
7 or not they are subject to the treaty and that person should be
15 of State gets involved for any issues that the fugitive may
19 criminality?
23 under --
7 point.
16 dual criminality.
9 U.S.C. 666.
12 maximum.
24 under 641. Under 641, and under the pattern jury instructions
3 United States.
5 converted the money for his own use or someone else's use.
17 embezzlement statute.
1 one, it's clear because it's in the Appendix, but under a dual
4 Honor.
11 and every word of the statute. If there are any doubts, as far
14 think if you look at the general intent of 666, that is, the
24 THE COURT: If you have 641, why would you use 666?
2 it before the Court. I will admit it's not even close to being
3 as strong as 641.
10 criminality does not require that the name by which the crime
24 Colombia.
2 its reply, the Colombian Supreme Court stated that "Arias Leiva
5 agreements."
14 did here, he lied when he designated the IICA and the contracts
9 Court.
13 defense cited any case law. All they tried to do was attack
17 evidence before this Court, if the so-called "fix was on" that
18 this was a politicized court, why would they put him on trial
21 evidence to go forward?
7 issue?
13 making.
1 something where the Court should go and his only recourse, Your
13 this Court should take as true, and the facts underlying talk
14 about exactly what the fugitive, Arias Leiva, did with respect
17 government resources.
1 the evidence that has been submitted, and the case law is clear
9 the contract, the Supreme Court through the opinion and on page
17 the 193-page decision, the Supreme Court carefully laid out the
18 reasons why Arias Leiva was convicted of the crime and that
19 should be more than enough probable cause, Your Honor, for you
4 extradition.
13 witness.
1 Felipe Arias.
2 DIRECT EXAMINATION
3 BY MR. MARKUS:
13 add --
15 What year was that when you went to work for President
16 Uribe?
17 A. 2002.
21 A. I'm sorry.
23 A. In the year 2002, August 7th of the year 2002, which is the
12 of Colombia?
14 Q. Okay. By the way, did you ever take one penny other than
25 Uribe.
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2 other terrorists?
7 wealth.
10 Conservative Party.
12 party?
2 that scandal was taken on the newspaper that was run by the
4 owned partially.
7 first, they were saying they were giving money to wealthy land
15 campaign.
18 fraud.
20 relevance to this.
3 BY MR. MARKUS:
7 you?
13 year.
17 2010 and 2011, we broke with him because he treasoned our whole
21 Q. Were you initially put into jail when those charges were
22 brought?
9 tried and accused. The terms had expired, and they will deny
10 it, and deny it, but at the end, this Judge said I cannot hold
12 Q. After you were released, did you apply for a Visa to come
18 an extension of my Visa.
22 relevance again.
2 United States and then, when they were presented with evidence
4 only granted his Visa but assisted in entering into the United
5 States.
13 innocent man in the world, what does that have do with probable
14 cause?
16 you think over there and look over there. I look at the facts
20 drugs and you were determining whether there was probable cause
22 And then there was evidence given too that the lab was
23 fraudulent in the way they tested those drugs. You may want to
25 things.
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12 Arias Leiva.
16 wasn't relevant.
21 he told me that and the Embassy said he's innocent and the best
22 guy in the world, how does that affect how he was convicted by
23 a Columbian Court?
4 that the process was politicized and corrupt. They told him
8 came back to him and said "not only are we going to grant the
9 visa, but we're granting the visa because this process that
11 corrupt, and you should come to the United States and apply for
16 factors that you can take into account just like you can take
22 that they may have as to what their employees thought, they are
6 issue before this Courts, this Court has to find that there is
10 MR. MARKUS: Yes, Your Honor, but let's take the most
11 extreme example. Let's say that there was record evidence that
12 the Supreme Court, all nine of them, were bribed by the Santos
3 regard.
4 BY MR. MARKUS:
6 initially denied.
11 and why it was being railroaded or why the charges were bogus.
18 A. Oh, the first contact I made with was Mr. Drew Blakeney.
20 Q. I think you said you got a call from somebody to come get
21 your visa?
22 A. Yes.
3 Handed me the passport and said "they have got nothing on you.
5 visa."
14 he knew about my case, that they had done the investigation and
18 process was at the end Homeland Security will ask the State
4 ago.
6 A. Yes, yes, I did. I have had some, not some, many threats
10 that point, this was November 2013, I was very scared. I told
11 him that.
12 Q. I know there was some travel to the United States and then
18 trial -- when you look at the length of the trial, that's not
20 because they would let so much time pass between one hearing
23 election. So the trial ended and they didn't rule. They said
24 that they would call us when they were ready for a verdict, and
2 proceeded?
6 with the first round of the presidential election and then that
8 Q. Did there come a time when you were tipped off with what
11 Blakeney, and I told him I want to seek asylum. How would your
19 Q. So, eventually, did you get notice before the Court ruled
2 seek asylum.
11 election and our candidate. And two hours later, I got a call
14 A. Yes.
1 A. Yes.
3 A. Yes, I got called back and she said you are cleared to go
7 came here.
16 United States?
17 A. In Weston, Florida.
25 United States. I was told that I was going to receive the help
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5 of one judge being corrupt -- by the way, was that the judge
11 Q. Of the eight judges who presided over your hearing, can you
13 A. Yeah. So first, the fact that it's only eight and nine is
20 tell them that I'm a Magistrate Court Judge. They think I'm
21 somebody big.
24 by the DEA some weeks ago, two of them. So now we have six.
6 argument let me say that they are not mentioned, but one of
16 inquiry.
20 BY MR. MARKUS:
15 recourse.
19 to everybody but only for sentences from last year towards the
20 future.
23 filed an appeal.
24 BY MR. MARKUS:
2 Q. Mr. Emery also mentioned that you were the person who
5 A. Yes, I do.
6 Q. Is that accurate?
7 A. No, it isn't.
11 They certified that this program that was being developed was
4 REDIRECT EXAMINATION
5 BY MR. EMERY:
6 Q. Doctor Arias, you would agree with me that you were the
8 A. Yes.
10 A. Yes, I was.
12 correct?
13 A. Yes.
15 that correct?
16 A. Yes, correct.
21 evidence?
8 to.
10 Heinemann --
12 different.
14 witness?
16 witnesses they could explain why the visa went from granted,
21 that, you would be able to explain to the Court why they did
24 THE COURT: Now you can tell us about the other fellow
14 and seek explanation of those items, the Court could then make
23 went and sought mandamus from the Eleventh Circuit which was
4 reasons that was presented to deny our mandamus issue with the
5 Eleventh Circuit that this issue was still alive and premature
8 the Court could rule at the final hearing on it, and; by the
9 way, it's law of the case, so the Court can't rule at the final
16 waiting for a ruling from the Court on this matter because this
1 for reconsideration.
5 "formulas".
11 the Court.
13 point?
15 to dismiss where there was legal argument made. The Court was
20 way the hearing ended was with the Court basically telling Mr.
21 Emery saying, look, you need to come forward with the evidence
22 to show that the treaty is in force. And, Mr. Emery then went
23 and got the affidavit of Heinemann and the diplomatic note from
24 one side. Their own witnesses, if called, would admit this and
7 opinion and said, but it's just dicta. There is no dicta going
8 the other way from the Eleventh Circuit. Every single Court
21 signing off on the fact that they are making this request to be
22 a valid treaty. That has not been done. All that is left is
23 with Mr. Emery, himself, signing the complaint and saying there
1 regard, and both 3181 and our constitution demand that, under a
7 persist in my ruling.
5 first impression.
7 Of course, you heard from Doctor Arias in this respect and how
15 his rival.
20 have Courts that say we are going to oversee the "trust us"
21 argument.
24 process.
1 THE COURT: Somewhere down the line the people who are
4 Colombian Embassy.
6 the government. It's not some dude off the street who was
9 visa and saying come, knowing what was going on. That view may
13 briefly.
16 of the Supreme Court are not only under DEA investigation but
19 said that the Supreme Court is politicized and didn't just say
21 Doctor Arias, that quote he was fated to bear the brunt of this
1 think it helps explain why, the United States granted him the
2 visa.
6 political prosecution that had only one purpose to, and I'm
11 his girlfriend where after the trial they had found the e-mail.
21 Court rules against us, that's it. We can take a habeas and
2 criminality charges?
11 again they say Arias allowed for this to happen. I can quote
22 his own use or the use of others. The government contends that
25 knowingly.
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13 shouldn't have been used. It was used in the right way. What
19 United States.
25 material.
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16 You signed your buddies' voucher that you knew was not
24 expense.
4 other way to pocket money that you're not entitled to. This is
6 embezzlement.
13 use the money in that way. What the Colombian Supreme Court
17 people, Hey, I was able to help you. Now you should help me in
18 the election.
20 United States.
25 the tax cuts is to get more people to vote for him, that's what
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12 back to him that's a different story, but that's not what this
15 This is not the run of the mill case that I'm usually
24 process.
4 That process was going forth for two years before President
6 everything with the FARC. That's why this Court should take
22 issue a long opinion recently. That does not bind this Court.
25 I know the Court, when you first heard us, heard that
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3 the way up. I just ask the Court to take our argument into
5 request.
17 all, is that the Colombian Supreme Court was not corrupt when
23 having problems.
7 lot of evidence, heard from Arias Leiva himself, and found him
8 guilty.
11 and assuming the Court goes the government's way, all these
12 arguments that Mr. Markus has made regarding whether or not the
15 the State.
20 proper extradition.
24 Officials first not having sworn to it. I find that the United
2 also find that the Court, that there is standing in this Court
8 as to the 641.
10 believe that based on the elements of 641, which are that the
15 money for the use of others. That would be the eleven families
16 that owned the land. And the Court clearly found that it was
25 public process.
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14 conviction.
17 Marshal to be confined.
24 support that.
6 extradition.
16 order.
2 District Court.
4 habeas soon, they could scoop him up and send him to Colombia.
6 this Court a few weeks ago, I believe what happened after the
10 tonight.
15 That's not what the question is. That's not what the
22 think the Court, a year ago, I think what Your Honor is saying
23 circumstances have now changed that the Court has ordered him
25 that.
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6 reason why we had this hearing and why you're going to proceed
11 in a home in Weston with his wife and two children. There are
14 Court. I think you heard from him and you see the support he
16 follow this Court's order and do that. I would ask that the
19 they can appeal that and raise it with the District Judge. If
21 whatever deadline that the Court wants. We just ask that the
5 the car and get out of the state. Doctor Arias drove. Guess
17 that the Colombian Supreme Court was coming down with the
6 that he's extraditable, then he, being the Judge, "shall issue
13 Court from making the findings, issuing the warrant and then
16 would ask that the Court stay its ruling for a certain amount
20 grant a bond.
22 would ask that the Court stay its ruling so that we can brief
23 this.
1 Your Honor.
12 verdict was coming down, which was not good for him.
14 for him. He has got every reason to flee. His first process
23 that by staying my order and not doing that, but the reason I
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