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Blast Load #51019 - 09/26/12 02:01 AM 0 registered (), 32
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Manik Dear all,
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Please advice regarding blast load (DNV-RP-D101-2008)
Registered:
04/02/08 November
Posts: 231 Blast load, F = 1/2*ρ*v^2*D*C*DLF [Where: 1/2*ρ*v^2
Su M Tu W Th F Sa
Loc: Jakarta, = dynamic drag pressure]
Indonesia 1 2 3
4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Safety department do simulation and give output 11 12 13 14 15 16 17
overpressure (not dynamic drag pressure or air speed).
18 19 20 21 22 23 24
Is there any formula to have dynamic drag pressure by 25 26 27 28 29 30
using overpressure given by Safety Departement?
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We have an example in Table 3-1 of the code. 14 Forums
"Tabulated pressures are based on figure 5.3 in FABIG 15610 Topics
Technical 70241 Posts
Note No 8, Protection of Piping Systems Subjected to Fires
and Explosions. This table is only meant for Max Online: 126 @
information and 05/09/18 04:29 PM
to show that the relationship between overpressure
and drag
pressure is not linear"

So we can't use table 3-1?

In that code said also:

In order to obtain more reliable values for the
overpressure and
drag pressure for an offshore installation with steelwork,
piping,
firewalls, equipment etc a 3D blast event simulator should
be used. The FLACS (FLame ACceleration Simulator)
programme
is a commonly used software tool for such simulations.

Please share and advice if you have any others method..

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Re: Blast Load [Re: Sam Manik] #51047 - 09/27/12 12:07 PM

danb
Member If Safety dept. has done the simulation they should give
you also the drag pressure. After all they have the speed
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Posts: 1290
Loc: ... _________________________
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Re: Blast Load [Re: Sam Manik] #51097 - 10/01/12 12:48 AM

Sam
Manik Dear danb,
Member Currently our safety dept use DNV-Phast (not FLACS).
They don't have output "dynamic drag pressure or air
Registered:
04/02/08 speed".
Posts: 231
Loc: Jakarta, I wish if we have air speed output due to blast then it will
Indonesia be easy to anylize the model by using "as wind load"

Sir Richard Ay,

Regarding wind load, Does Caesar II consider wind load in
"horizontal axis" of the pipe? i think it is small..IMHO
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Re: Blast Load [Re: Sam Manik] #51101 - 10/01/12 02:16 AM

danb
Member Ask then what formula their program uses for the
overpressure calculation.
Registered:
04/22/05
Posts: 1290 It should contain in my opinion something that help you
Loc: ... get the gas speed.
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Re: Blast Load [Re: Sam Manik] #51104 - 10/01/12 02:45 AM

Sam
Manik Dear danb,
Member
I will take a look on it.
Registered:
04/02/08
Posts: 231 Sir Richard,
Loc: Jakarta,
Indonesia Sorry..what I meant : "Regarding wind load, Does Caesar
II consider wind load in "local axial axis - x (small) axis" of
the pipe? i think it is small..IMHO
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Re: Blast Load [Re: Sam Manik] #51105 - 10/01/12 02:57 AM

danb
Member No, Ceasar does not consider wind load for elements that
have axis parallel with wind direction.
Registered:
04/22/05
Posts: 1290
Loc: ... Edited by danb (10/01/12 02:59 AM)

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Re: Blast Load [Re: Sam Manik] #51114 - 10/01/12 08:31 AM

Sam
Manik Dear danb,
Member
I have the same idea with you. I believe air speed only
Registered:
04/02/08 have significant effect on local lateral and local vertical
Posts: 231 axis of pipe (axial neglected).
Loc: Jakarta,
Indonesia To apply blast load it will be easier also as "wind load"
rather than "uniform load per length (N/mm)" in term of
inputting.

I need respond also from Richard..thx Richard..

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Re: Blast Load [Re: Sam Manik] #51120 - 10/01/12 07:59 PM

Richard Ay
Wind load is applied to the area of the pipe perpendicular
Member to the wind direction. Therefore, if the wind direction
aligns with the axis of the pipe, there is no wind load.
Registered:
12/13/99
Posts: 5877 For those users that have addressed the "blast load case",
Loc: Houston, and have subsequently discussed the issue with me, they
Texas, USA are all applying the blast as a wind pressure.
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Richard Ay
Hexagon PPM (CAS)

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