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Member Greetings, Well as far as I got this winter on the two cylinder
How hit & rotary valve engine
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metalmad solenoid model
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11:59:11 me to a free set of internet plans for my files? As I don't have an
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u Senior I built one but have not seen any plans. The issue with plans is
[April 03, Member that you would have to be able to buy the exact same solenoid
2011, as the plans call for. It is not really all that complicated.
10:04:30 Solenoid connected to a flywheel and a switch to turn the
PM] solenoid on to pull in on the power stroke.

Dave's Mine was built in a scotch yoke configuration but just about
Cracker Loco any design would work. I think a solenoid wobbler would be a
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Member Again, no plans, just ideas. I built these and others electrics
10 or 15 years ago BLAM (Before I got my Lathe And Mill), a
little crude, but they run really well, sorry no vids. First two I
call Vandles, short for the valve handles I used for the
flywheels, the third uses a modified iron cart wheel flywheel
Karma 3 and solenoids from an old electric motor starter, the walking
beam flywheel is a weldment. I used automotive starting
solenoids on Nos. 1 & 4, and handwound coils on No. 2. All
of the flywheels wobble a bit, thats why I finally got a lathe,
haven't built any since, go figure.
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TarheelTo Re: solenoid engine plans and schematic?

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building a "three cylinder" solenoid engine. It is self starting.

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Global « Reply #10 on: May 12, 2010, 11:28:37 PM »
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Senior Quote from: TarheelTom on May 12, 2010, 07:50:28 AM
Member The latest "Digital Machinist" magazine has an article on building
a "three cylinder" solenoid engine. It is self starting.

Tom

Tom, is that the Summer 2010 edition? The latest copy I have is
Spring 2010 and I'm not finding the solenoid engine plans.

Chuck

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Hi all. I'm guessing the three cylinder is same as the one
published in HSM J/F, M/A, M/J 2003.

Not really my thing, but a very interesting article.

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I have dozens of 24 volt solenoid coils. I would happy to post a
few to you.

We remove them from commercial purge valves and add one

wound for 90 VDC. They are about 1.5 inches long and less than
an inch dia. The opening is around .25 inches.

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Offlin If interested let me know. I can post a pic and give more exact
dimensions if you need that as well. Be nice if someone else can
use some of them. I get a new set of sixteen every few months.
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Advanced Quote from: cfellows on May 12, 2010, 11:28:37 PM
Member Tom, is that the Summer 2010 edition? The latest copy I have
is Spring 2010 and I'm not finding the solenoid engine plans.

Chuck
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And I don't have all the issues containing the article.

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Global « Reply #14 on: May 15, 2010, 10:28:20 AM »
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Senior Quote from: Kermit on May 13, 2010, 11:45:41 PM
Member I have dozens of 24 volt solenoid coils. I would happy to post a
few to you.

We remove them from commercial purge valves and add one

wound for 90 VDC. They are about 1.5 inches long and less than
an inch dia. The opening is around .25 inches.

If interested let me know. I can post a pic and give more exact
dimensions if you need that as well. Be nice if someone else can
use some of them. I get a new set of sixteen every few months.

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solenoids. Do you have an ohmeter to read the resistance?

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