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DOUG:

I have no idea what is going on with Siaie Farm or why they would do that because that does...

JOHN:

Would you back me up if 1 call and just let them know that yes you are a State Farm employee or owner or whatever and that you have Stale Farm insurance? . personally don't have State Farm insurance. Oh,

DOUG: JOHN: ED:

John, I gotta go, I gol.ta get on the cell phoae John, 1 .gotta get on the cell phone. I'm gonna t:ake a shower right now and I will speak to you. What time do you gotta he at work? I gotta be there [SPEAKING] Well, , I appreciate your input on John's behalf and I assure 1 know,...
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ED: How do we reach you in the future? What is that number?

DOUG:
520-474-9133.

ED: I would like to talk to you maybe on how I can help you with, and I am not looking for anything, I just want to do it to help \ ru accomphsl' some of the things I know that have to be bothering you. Unless you are in on, you know, you have certain monies that are being stolen that you don't want to report., which I can't understand that you would want to do that. DOUG El): No, obviously not. lam just saying, you know. please don't take me to.... ] understand.

DOUG:

ED: Airight so, but I know that you have some important issues here and maybe there is a time we could meet or we could. talk again on the phone when he does not have to get work. I really gorta get going and 1 have things to do so John just make sure you speak- to me before you walk out the door okay? 1 will be in the hack I czatta do some things, okay? JOHN: ED: Okay, well my laundry's in-and- I gotta showcr.

Okay alright vrhats your name again .so.l have the full name?

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DOUG:

No, I'm not just above Betty. I am a partner, but am curious as to what this all for?

ETh Okay, what this is all for, well can you just tell me what portion of an owner? Are you just have a slight interest? Are you a controlling partner? A major stockholder? What?
DOUG: No. I am not a controlling partner, I am a minor stockholder.

ED: Okay, is there somebody else 1 should be talking to? DOUG: Well.....

ED:

I mean if you don't want to give me that, I guess I can go through Pizza Hut

I)OUG:
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No, I am not saying I am fbi giving it to you, I want to know what its in reference to.

Well, lemnee juSt tell you something. Lmee tell you what you did. okay? You are not, what are you a supervisor? lam the director of operations for the franchise and a partner of this franchise.

DOUG:

ED: Okay, lemee tell you. You made a mistake in making the phone calls you did to Pizza Hut. Urn.. .1 have already got testimony that you did call there. You know you , called there after we told you don't say anything, do your investigation, but you made it worse. So, John's been threatened on several occasions, his home has been called not to return. Now look, I am going to tell you, this is going to conic to something but you could make it less. S o you could either, gel back to me and don't call my brother. You can get hack.to me and speak to me about it and how we are going to work this,out because Tam just going to tell you, I an guarantee you that (a) I will make sure that people are picketing outsi0e in front of that stone letting them know the filthy conditions, I have got taped testimonial. I will put it all together into one. little neat little package. for people to hear exactly what the employees have said about cockroaches, kicking them off the boxes and putting the pizza in there delivering them to everything else. But you see, I am not so

concerned about that. My brother has been threatened. He has hefl called a
fagot. People have said I want to kill that fagot. I want to tell you what you are looking at You are looking a potential sex crime hate crime. One has already occurred aheady It already has occurred because he has been threatened. Now, you could either put up your hands and say okay look we are going to talk to some of our employees and find out what happened. You can tell them that they are

hing to you. I am talking about the Carters As soon as you start talking to anyone outside of the Carters, I am initiating a lawsuit. i don't play games.

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DO1)G:

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ED:

I am going to tell you you need 10 talk to the Carters of whether or not the>' stated the following: They have called him a fagot, you are going to get kicked in the back fagot, you are going get thrown out into the desert fagot when you go to make a deliveiy. He has given three hours as many others have and told they were going to get paid for it and have never gotten paid. You shorted people there for the longest time. I have got employees going hack over a half of year ago or more that worked there that quit because their hours were being cut down from what they were and the way you have people signing, things and don't give them a copy. 1 mean, let me idi you something, this is just a lawsuit waitingto happen So you could let TflC sit down with the powers that be to settle this., otherwise I can guarantee you this will make the papers. You don't know who you are dealing

with, w lth this Okay, this ill make the newspapers and I n guarantee you that
Pizza Hut. I am sure the local residents who know about it maybe some new Snowbirds who don't know, will not be ordering from there anymore. You can guarantee me. I have dotted all my i's and crossed my t's before .1 was calling you back. You made a phone call and then you made several phone calls and spoke to whomever you spoke to there and plus they have been on the prowl. So. since our little conversation, you know, things did not go any better, they got worse. J)OUG: Not for what its worth. JOHN NEVER WENT TO WORK, JOHN HAS BEEN THREATENED AND . JOHN HAS BEEN TOLD HE IS FIRED.....-he has been fired when he had a doctors note. You don't know what lie has done. It has been recorded. to his doctor for the last year. On whais been happening to him but he has no other place. See, he is a little seardy cat. He just maybe gay but he does his job. He worked extra hours. Never got paid for any of those hours. You wanna just, lemee tell: you, you want to give me- an argument, you could go ahead because you won't be talking to me. Whats gonna end up happening is. I ant going to produce a flyer,'! ant going to produce a flyer, you won't be able to prove who made the liver, there is going to be a fiver produced and it is going to go all around and I guarantee it will made the press, 'criminal charges are going to be filed. The police are already very aware of the situation with the drug dealing and everything else that is going on over there Everything. They already knew about just couldn't prove anything,. Well lemee just tell you something, ask Rick or Tim or

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Whoever o ask Ben if she was even aware that her son was set -icing people out itbout pizzas, oh and even. to give the pizzas iwav for free with a package Came along tile-re hule thing and keeping on how people- got very scared Likethat package was still inside their vehicle. Not Tohn I got oilier ones I got m in They don't even know each other. They have clone this for a long time. Your company is in deep coo coo You really need to tell we and say "look Ian) going

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over her head, your phone number is nowhere to he found. numbers. DOUG:

None of the phone

That right there alone. The acquisition that John made. is poppedd in the store two
days later and my phone number is all over the walls and wasn't just ;put up for me

to. wall; in the door. It is on the stationary, the letterhead ; John's paycheck., I pointed this out the John, it has an office address and phone number on it. He has never called it to tr to get a hold of anybody. That is why I am wondering, where is this all coming. from_ AU these attempts to get a hold of somebody when John himself said those calls hadn't been made. El): Oh, okay DOUG: You. know, 1. tried to investigate [CUT OFF]

ED: Okay, listen the first thing we need to do today... DOU.JG. Hold on,.J am speaking...

ED: The first thing we need to do today, look I gotta go. Just go ahead. I need,,...you can call John at home if you would like okay and ask him. DOUG: John may call :me or John may call the [CUT OFF]

ED: Well you want to make sure you are talking to John. You know his phone .number. Youu call his number and make sure that you've :gotten to him, okay, and sty John do you t ant yoi,r check brought to your home bys somebody and you could asl hit what the name of ,the person is. You can't have Rick, You can't 'ghats her name call. They are not to have contact with him anymore. He will totally freak. That's it. That's the way it is. You Nvarit, to. go ahead? I will speak with you can Monday. I expect you to toll me who we are going to sit-down. and have a .meeting with John, soinebod f- else from Pizza Hut and I am going to make sure that I am going fend out who they are and what they are *to make sure who they are and ,drat they are period If its gorilla he ith a lay. ver then the compensation 11 ce.asf . I
am _lust going ahead_ .I am immediately making up the f yers (a) and (h) a lawsuit

is going to be filed. I guarantee you. 1 have got enough. You can make oh well she didn't see this or the phone number there to that. That's all irrelevant lernee tell you. Then these people are all. liars.

DOUG:
ED:

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All. ti e:se people are liars. W:hats that? That's not irrelevant because that's the reason John said he couldn't get a hold of

DOUG:

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are all illegal things. Urn.. .did they call John ever a fagot or tell the people he was a fagot arid make threatening insinuations to John that he is a fagot and he might begetting it. 1 don'tknow if you are writing anything down. D(HJG: ED: [SPEAKING]

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Okay, I'm just saying. You know, did they ever do anything of that because, okay, and that uh . .did they make any other threats to ernp1oyes not to say anything about different things, about John about anything that they might have done, okay? Then you want to ask them about drug dealing, sending them on drugs you know on deliveries. Tell them, you need to let them know that look, its going to be cheaper for you right now and less embarrassed with no embarrassment vhatsoeer because if it goes through anything, I am making it totally public I , will make sure they hear about it from California to Florida. It will make the national news because1 will make it that way. The point is, if. any of this is true at a ll . you need to tell them, look you can save your jobs and be on probation and id us ,know really what it is that they are going to be able to prove because if so we need to make a settlement with Mr. linger. Apologize to Mr. Unger and leave hini alone and go on our way and you mister who over and so on and so forth are going. to be on pfobation. I am just suggesting. However you might want to . handle this because if you don't handle it that way, I am just trying to give a resolve a to resolve this Look if we wanted to rnal'e up a story of somethin& there is a lot of creative ways and ways, you know, they will just have to prove. Lemrne just tell you, personally, I feel my brother has won a small lottery right, here. Small, not a large one, a small lottery. If it goes to court, it would be a very large lottery okay. I didn't tell him that I don't want to say that kind of dung to turn okaybui look I atn involved with dealing with these kind of issues and fight these kind of things that go on around. They have done it to the wrong guy and I was totally unaware 01 it. M) mother, rn'v father, nobody had even insinuated they were all aware of what was going on. All of them for months., including the doctor which I could really strangle her. She should have made a phone call and somebody should have done something. I mean this is really a serious situation. lie is in fear of his lile These guys when they deal with crystal meth amphetamine. They're whacked in the head because they are usually doing it and they are whacked in the head. So, for lack of better terminology, you
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need to speak to Your ernplo\ees I guess ask 111cm whatever and then we need to go ahead and we need to meet and try to resolve this. if it doesn't make, sense what 1 am saying then we will, just go the other route. .11 doesn't make a difference John is out of money tight flow but I guess farntiv members or whatever will have to help him and it \\iIl be a bi.ger collect to him later. We have got hate crime, harassment, I 'mean this is sexual harassment in its worst form.. This kid never did anything H. was an excJlent cmp1oce and anyone nyone who knows he is an excellent worker. He 'would sthy who knows him. An,' -hey stuff that they two people are supposed to do and they would make him

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forced hii to do it at the end. Just John and he did it because that's just the kind of guy he is. He will put his tail between his legs and leave it be. You've got a bad group here and this is a lawsuit waiting to happen. So, I hope that you are taking it to the powers that be because if it is not and we are not coming to a resolve, .1 am going to go straight to the top and work it from there. They will listen because of what I am going to do, they'll listen. So, I hope that I can hear

fromyou. If not by the end of the day......STATIC]

INEW PHONE CALL] El): Hi, 1)oug. this is. Mr. Unger. Yes.

DOUG:

ED: Urn, lets see you down there maybe try to get somethrng straightened away.
brother hasn't received his 'check yet. Is there a reason for that? DOUG: No, it Was mailed off.

Um.-my

ED: Well, I will just tell you something. What happened here is, one of your people didn't mail it. So.... DOUG: Just a second. It was sent certified with a return receipt.

ED: Oh it was done that way. Then that's whats holding it up. Okay, if that was the case then, that's whats holding it up. DOUG: . Okay.

ED: Okay. urn.. .oh. .,where do we go from here. Do you want to tel.1 me who.] need. to speak with or do you want me to start with the main office? Regarding? ED: Regarding compensation for .m' bro.ther. Do you understand what he's been put through? Do you understand what others have been put through? I am only concerned with my brother but if you are not going to work out a compensation I ye got to others that were sent on deliveries with drugs which is. I mean you are going to pay a big fine for. I just want a compensation for my brother. If we are not gOing to gel it I am gathering e ervhod' togethcr I know that your gal has been calling

all the different people and trying to talk to them. The gal that answered the phone the has been calling evervhod I have -even got her on tape She has been
calling everybody and just doing whatever smoozing over she could do. [IN A GIRL'S VOICE] ou won t say, nothlnL will you9 Ask tier ask her how mans

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ED: The gal who answered the phone, Ms. Betty, okay, umm ... is the one who has promised not only John but a host of other people other stores if they stick with it and work for the pay and Oh don't worry about it. Every time they'd ask about the extra hours or hours were taking off, she would try to smooz them up. She's an Ownei, that is what she has claimed herself to be. An owner, she is a partner there, she didn't, you know, your not a partner and just because you own thaybe .a few shares of stock that doesn't make you a partner. I am not a partner in AT&T and listen
DOUG: You are out of line at this point. [SPEAKING]

ED: Well let me tell you., this one is going to start encumbersoming up your time because 1 have, told you. I am prepared I am setting up people that are going to picket out in front of there, You are going to want to send everybody home because you a:i nt

gonna have business in there when I get finished with this flyer and youWon't have anyone to hook on to., DOUG: But I Won't be able to prove that you are going produce.

ED: Whats that? DOUG This is the flyer that you told me the other day that I won't he able to prove your producing it.
lam not producing it. No, this is other people that are going to do It. It's a non-profit organization. They get paid nothing and the people. They are everything from homeless people which Betty looks like okay, they are homeless people or whatever and who are they don't en know who is going to eve. n be doing it Its not being done by me Not being done by nn brother either. Okay. And they are just going to tell the truth of whats going on and repeat different statements which will be eventually be able to backed up by statements that other people told nw-. They gave me the information. The willingly gave me the info.rmation, I even tried to get them....

ED:

DOUG:

[SPEAKING] you have given me in order to investigate andior.[CUT OFF]

ED: Lem.ec just. tell you, when you are ready to sit down. and .1 really know who oWns the company becauso supposedly Betty owns the company or a part of the compariy, she does not i am also told recenth that yOU own Wan hijig some small fraction

of a fraction of something. [STATIC]

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