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 1. new member introduction: c.s. baskaran (jaldhar h. vyas)
2. clarification on bg chapter 10 shloka 21
(n r, chakradhar (chakradhar))
3. re: clarification on bg chapter 10 shloka 21
(dr. v. prasanna shrinivas)
4. re: clarification on bg chapter 10 shloka 21 (jaldhar h. vyas)
5. new identity acquired? (latha vidyaranya)

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message: 1
date: wed, 12 dec 2007 00:19:43 -0500 (est)
from: "jaldhar h. vyas" <jaldhar@braincells.com>
subject: [advaita-l] new member introduction: c.s. baskaran
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namaskarams,

as requested i am submitting this info of myself for subscribing to

your
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name: c.s.baskaran
age : 65, hindu brahmin. iyer.

i am a retired automobile professional now pursuing my interest in

advaita
vedanta for my personal growth in spirituality.i had been a student of
swami paramarthananda and have studied bhagawat gita,and upanishads
through his classes for them. further to keep in touch with the subject
i
have become a member of the advaitin group at yahoo groups.for the same

reason i now wish to join your group.

with regards

baskaran.

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date: wed, 12 dec 2007 11:53:31 +0530
from: "n r, chakradhar \(chakradhar\)"
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subject: [advaita-l] clarification on bg chapter 10 shloka 21
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> namaskara,
> i have a doubt regarding the bg chapter 10 shloka 21. the english
> translation of the shloka is:
>
> among the adityas i am visnu; among the luminaries, the radiant sun;
> among the (forty-nine) maruts i am marici;
> ** among the stars i am the moon. **
>
> why is moon referred to as a star?
> is the translation of 'nakshtra' as a star fine?
>
> does this match with the today's definition of the star or moon?
>
> pranams,
> chakra

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date: wed, 12 dec 2007 12:41:27 +0530
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namaste

the genitive case of the word sasi meaning moon is not referring to one
out
of many but is specifying one over all. thus naksatraanaam .aham sasi
refers
to the moon as being the lord over all the constellations. the lord
speaks
in a similar tone in the next sloka as well when refering to
conciousness in
creations.

gurupadarenu

on 12/12/07, n r, chakradhar (chakradhar)

<nrchakradhar@alcatel-lucent.com>
wrote:
>
> > namaskara,
> > i have a doubt regarding the bg chapter 10 shloka 21. the english
> > translation of the shloka is:
> >
> > among the adityas i am visnu; among the luminaries, the radiant
sun;
> > among the (forty-nine) maruts i am marici;
> > ** among the stars i am the moon. **
> >
> > why is moon referred to as a star?
> > is the translation of 'nakshtra' as a star fine?
> >
> > does this match with the today's definition of the star or moon?
> >
> > pranams,
> > chakra
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date: wed, 12 dec 2007 02:19:31 -0500 (est)
from: "jaldhar h. vyas" <jaldhar@braincells.com>
subject: re: [advaita-l] clarification on bg chapter 10 shloka 21
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on wed, 12 dec 2007, n r, chakradhar \(chakradhar\) wrote:

>> namaskara,
>> i have a doubt regarding the bg chapter 10 shloka 21. the english
>> translation of the shloka is:
>>
>> among the adityas i am visnu; among the luminaries, the radiant sun;
>> among the (forty-nine) maruts i am marici;
>> ** among the stars i am the moon. **
>>
>> why is moon referred to as a star?
>> is the translation of 'nakshtra' as a star fine?
>>
>> does this match with the today's definition of the star or moon?
>>

in this section bhagavan is describing his vibhuti (hanta te

kathayishyami
divya hyatmavibhutayah 21:19) by explaining how he is the foremost
out of various classes.

in some cases the comparison is more subtle than simply biggest or

best.
the translation of the text you are mentioning

nakshatranamaham shashi

is "_amongst_ the nakshatras i am the moon."

the 27 nakshatras are portrayed as the wives of chandradeva. compare

 the
phrase in 21:27

naranam cha naradhipam

"amongst men i am the king"

the king is not the "biggest" man in the way that meru is the biggest
mountain (see 21:23) but he is their leader. (and notice we use the
same
word pati for husband or leader.)

also, although neither the gita or shankarabhashya mention it, i can't

help but think there is a deeper reason for the nakshatra-chandra
simile.
just as shashideva is the husband of 27 nakshatras but he visits them
in
turn one at a time, krishna bhagavan is the lover of thousands of gopis
in
vrndavan but he appears in a sole relationship to each of them.

--
jaldhar h. vyas <jaldhar@braincells.com>

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message: 5
date: wed, 12 dec 2007 11:52:16 +0000 (gmt)
from: latha vidyaranya <lathavidya@yahoo.co.in>
subject: [advaita-l] new identity acquired?
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hari om
namaste

here, in this list, we all strive to inculcate the advaita philosophy

in our daily lives striving to attain the ultimate truth. this is the
spiritual side of us.

there is also a vyaavahaaric face of ours that keep clinging to the

present identities and also try to attain newer identities! at times
there arises a clash between the two faces of ours when we wonder how do
we reconcile the two?!

yes, it may not be simple, yet possible. try to keep the spiritual
identity intact and look upon all the worldly identities as various roles
that we are playing in this big cosmic drama. put your best into those
roles, play them well, entertain the audience / spectators, all the
while residing in your innerself and looking at and enjoying your own
roles! we do not know what the next scene is, what new facade we need to
wear, how many other actors are dropped from the play and how many reach
the last scene along with us!

one such new identity that i have acquired is that of a blogger in

wordpress. whenever i write a post i try to embed little philosophy,
 little psychology, little spirituality and a big amount of entertainment to
amuse my audience (the blog readers). i am thoroughly enjoying the new
identity, keeping my immutable identity intact.

want to have a peep into my new role? you may visit me at:

http://empoweringall.wordpress.com

your contribution in the form of posts, comments and feedback are

most welcome there.

i have not forgotten you all. just looking at life from a new
perspective and trying to understand others' perspectives too. the advaitic
perspective - the substratum - binds us all here. there it is only a
super imposed outlook.

thanks,

hari om
namaste

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