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2. re: mithya from archives (ramesh krishnamurthy)

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namaskarah,

thanks sri amuthan once again for your response. i appreciate it


deeply.

if i may summarize your position (just for clarity):


the question of the status of the world (including fundamental
particles, if any) arises only in vyavahara wherein pramatrtva is
superimposed on the atman and hence arises the trio of pramatr,
prameya & pramana.

i entirely agree with the above. no issues here whatsoever. but does
the story end here?

there must have been good reasons why many of our acarya-s have
considered samkhya to be the closest among the darshana-s to
advaita-vedanta. let me reflect on this point a little more and get
back later if required.

in the meantime, lets see if any of our other list vidvan-s have
anything to say about this.

thanks once again for your patient replies

ramesh

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date: thu, 29 nov 2007 11:13:44 +0530
from: "ramesh krishnamurthy" <rkmurthy@gmail.com>
subject: re: [advaita-l] mithya from archives
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namaskarah,

on 28/11/2007, kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada@yahoo.com> wrote:


>
> you are seeking answers about the fundamental truth
> through pratyaksha and anumaana, when you turn to
> science to establish the mithyaatvam of the universe.
>
> jagat is mitya only from the point of satya.
>
> science can never validate or invalidate the absolute
> truth of the universe. vedanta alone is pramaana.

sir, there seems to be a misunderstanding here. i am not trying to


discount sruti pramana. the utility of the sruti is a vast topic in
its own right and is not something i want to get into at the moment.
nevertheless, we must note the following key features of vedanta:

1. it proclaims jivanmukti
2. it holds mukti to be the realization of one's true svarupa

any statement regarding the utility of the sruti pramana must take the
above into account. to put it crudely, the sruti pramana is "valid
because it works".

on avasthatraya, there are certain issues with it that i find


confusing. so all i wanted was to see if the same point could be
explained through some other analysis. after all, the sruti teaches
the same thing through innumerable prakriya-s.

> any way, let me know if you find the answer to your
> inquiry.

sure, i will

dhanyavadah
ramesh

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