Christopher Lochhead is the co-author of the Harper Collins’ instant classic Play Bigger: How Pirates, Dreamers and Innovators Create and Dominate Markets and he’s the co-host of the Legends and Losers podcast. He is a serial entrepreneur and has served as the CMO of three public companies. Chris joined Ian to discuss why category design is the most important skill set for a CMO, why competing is bad, and how to get creatives to do legendary work. 4:55 - How category design applies to music, politics, and life. 8:20 - The number one skill set that headhunters look for in a CMO. 11:25 - Why competing is bad. 24:55 - Making category design more than a messaging or branding exercise. 51:10  - How to get creatives to do legendary work for you. 1:06:15 - Why this is the most exciting time to be alive in history. Marketing Trends is brought to you by our friends at Salesforce Pardot, B2B marketing automation on the world’s #1 CRM. Are you ready to take your B2B marketing to new heights? With Pardot, marketers can find and nurture leads, close more deals, and maximize ROI. Learn more by heading to www.pardot.com/podcast. To learn more or subscribe to our weekly newsletter, visit MarketingTrends.com.