Laura Richards and Lisa Zambetti continue their discussion with Debra Newell. We talk about Debra's exit strategy and give a voice to Cindi Vickers (nee Newell), Debra's sister, who was abused and shot dead by Billy, her husband, when she tried to leave him on March 8 1984.#HerNameISDebraNewell#HerNameWasCindiVickers#DirtyJohn#CoerciveControl#StalkingMore Information about Coercive Controlhttps://www.laurarichards.co.uk/coercive-control/Advice if you believe someone you know is being abusedhttps://www.laurarichards.co.uk/advice-if-you-believe-someone-else-is-being-abused/Domestic Abuse, Stalking and Harassment and Honour Based Violence (DASH) Risk Modelhttps://www.dashriskchecklist.co.uk/v-dash/Serial stalkers and abusers should be on a national register. If you agree please sign @laurarichards99 @paladinservice petition https://www.change.org/p/rt-hon-theresa-may-mp-create-a-stalker-s-registerThis Episode is Sponsored by Zip RecruiterTry ZipRecruiter for free by visiting ZipRecruiter.com/REALCRIMESponsored by RobinHoodRobinhood is giving listeners of Real Crime Profile a FREE stock like Apple, Ford, or Sprint to help you build your portfolio. Sign up at realcrime.robinhood.com.And by Man CratesJust for Valentine's Day get 14% off when you spend $100 or more at ManCrates.com/REALCRIME