Botanist, seedsman, and landscape architect Gabriel Howearth talks about his life with plants.  Howearth, co-founder of Seeds of Change, and Buena Fortuna Botanical Garden, spoke with Jill Cloutier at the 2008 Southern California Permaculture Convergence at Quail Springs Learning Oasis and Permaculture Farm.  (This was the last interview that I conducted with my once-trusty, but now defunct, mini disc recorder; so please forgive the audio quality.)