Without Tears
Scope of Coverage
Definition
History
Frequently asked Questions
Few Discriminations
DEFINITION
OROP implies that uniform pension be paid to
Widows of
Sep QS 15 yrs Gr Y 3500 3500 5646 61 61
Hav QS 17 Yrs Gr Y 3500 3500 5958 70 70
Sub Maj QS 25 Yrs Gp Y 4830 9612 99 0
Hon Lt QS 28 Yrs 8100 10278 27 0
Maj QS 25 Yrs 8460 10923 19977 136 83
Lt Col (S) QS20 Yrs 15420 15759 20589 34 31
Col QS 26 Yrs 15630 16677 23319 49 40
Brig QS 28 Yrs 15690 17487 23421 49 34
Maj Gen QS 28 yrs 15390 18210 24900 62 37
Note :
1. All JCO and below(Except Hon Ranks and Sub Maj/Sub) got an increase in 2009 as well
2. Ranks upto Hav and Maj will gain the most as they had been subject to total injustice so far
What do the Raksha Mantri say about implementation?
Arun Jaitly: He said no shortage of money for OROP,
but asked the ESM to lower their expectations???,
meaning accept change in definition as accepted by
various committees of Parliament. He went on to
suggest his intent to refer the matter to a Tribunal to
reconcile differences between the Service Hq and MoD.
Such delaying tactics would obviously place the OROP
into a long Cold Storage, in line with MoD tactics of
attrition though delay. He also states there are many
definitions of OROP
Manohar Parrikar: Initially declared that OROP needs
a complicated formula to be worked and it can't be
treated as a dynamic thing .However later he
understood the issue and of late has said that he has
done his work correctly and the file is with FM. Clearly
indicating his having thrown up his hands vis a vis the
FM
Is the complexity of OROP the only factor
holding up the issue?
No .
In fact there is no complexity in OROP
It is a myth being created by those who wish to
sabotage the BJP promise of OROP by
1. Stating other will ask for it. None can as the
terms of service condition are not same.
2. The one time amount required is high .The figure
given is 22000 cr. Fully proved to be wrong by RM
himself.
3. Will be referred to 7 PC. Not a part of 7 CPC
Charter.
4. There can be different definitions. There is only
one definition approved by parliament.
5. The annual increment of .85% will increase the
annual load on budget. Let us look at this aspect
with care in the next slide.
Is OROP imminently affordable?
It must be clarified that the current defence pension
expenditure of Rs 54,500 crores (2015-16) also includes
defence civilians who approximately number 400,000.
The perceived exponential rise in pension bill needs to be put
in the correct perspective. The figure would rise in absolute
numbers of course but when viewed as a percentage of the
nations GDP, the expenditure on defence pension shows an
overall declining trend as the table below will illustrate:
We have high hopes and regard for our PM. We believe him.
Yet, we are very skeptical of and have experienced the
machinations of the Indian Bureaucracy, particularly the
MoD. They are old hands at scuttling any move by the
Legislative and any rulings by the Judiciary that favors or
uplifts the conditions of the Faujis. One e.g
Maj Gen Vains case the Supreme Court (SC) ruling did
restore his pension to be marginally above Brigadiers but
less than the Maj Generals who retired after 2006, was a
grudging saving grace. However, the ignominy continued
because the government did not implement the full SC
ruling which actually amounted to OROP.In the last hearing
the Gov rep stated OROP will be implemented in 3 months
and that was in Mar 2015
Given the reality of veterans being close to passing on, the
issue of OROP assumes great expediency.
Why the lack of Trust?
The Koshiyari committee recommendations submitted in
2011 were ignored till February 2014 to the detriment of
the UPA, but where was the vocal BJP on the issue of
OROP when it stalled the Parliament for several weeks and
months on other issues?
If the BJP did mention OROP in Parliament as often as the
impression is being conveyed, there must be something
on the record of Parliament after 2011.
How has the OROP fared from 2004 in Parliament? Here is
the data available on the internet though Lok Sabha and
Rajya Sabha websites and only the following information
was available (Pls try and keep track of BJP members
questions): -
Why the lack of Trust?
08 Dec 2004 Shri Prabhunath Singh (RJD) raises a
query but is absent (details not available)
28 Apr 2005 Dr Col (retd) Dhani Ram Shandil (Shimla
- INC) raises a question (details of reply not available)
18 Aug 2006 Shri Kishan Singh Sanghwan (BJP,
deceased 2012) raises a question and Shri B K
Handique, MoS Defence replies that OROP is not possible
due financial, administrative, and legal reasons as
recommended by a Committee of Secretaries
23 Aug 2007 Shri P K Dhumal (BJP) raises a question
(details of reply not available)
26 Feb 2009 Shri Karan Singh Yadav (Alwar - INC)
raises a question (details of reply not available)
Why the lack of Trust?
21 Aug 2010 Shri Pratap Singh Bajwa (Gurdaspur INC) raises
a question (details of reply not available)
08 Jul 2014 - The principle of One Rank One Pension for the
Armed Forces has been accepted by the Government. The
modalities for implementation were discussed with various
stakeholders and are presently under consideration of the
Government. It will be implemented once the modalities are
approved by the Government. This information was given by
Minister of State for Defence Rao Inderjit Singh (BJP)in a written
reply to Dr T Subbarami Reddy in Rajya Sabha on July 8, 2014.
Why the lack of Trust?
08 Nov 2014 - The principle of One Rank One Pension for the Armed
forces has been accepted by the Government. The modalities for
implementation were discussed with various stakeholders and are
presently under consideration of the Government. It will be implemented
once the modalities are approved by the Government. No Budget was
allocated for the purpose in the Budget 2013-14. Total number of
beneficiaries for OROP will be known once the modalities are
approved. This information was given by Minister of State for Defence Rao
Inderjit Singh (BJP) in a written reply to Shri Hukum Singh and others in
Lok Sabha today.
Officers Promotion 100% Joint Secy at 16-18 1% Maj Gen at 32-33 years of
opportunities years Service service.
100% Addl Secy at 32 3% Lt Gen 33-35years
years Service
Non-functional JS Pay at approx22 yrs. Nil
Upgradtion (NFU) Addl Secy Pay at 32yrs
Support of Heath Care Per member approx Rs Per member approx Rs
10000/- 10000/-
Who are getting OROP already?