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CHAPTER ON
ORIGINATION (AL HUDTH) OF THE UNIVERSE
AND PROOFS OF ITS ORIGINATOR
2131. Ab Jafar Muhammad ibn Yaqb (the compiler) said, Al
ibn Ibrhm ibn Hshim informed me (haddathan) saying () his father ()
al-Hasan ibn Ibrhm () Ynus ibn Abd ar-Rahmn () Al ibn Mansr
as saying :
"Hishm ibn al-Hakam told me, 'There was an atheist (zindq) in
Egypt to whom had reached some reports about Ab Abdillh peace
be upon him). The atheist came to Medina to have debate with him (the
Imm), but the Imm was not available in Medina and he was informed
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of Ab Abdillh (p.b.u.h.), making the circum ambulation of the Kabah
(the House of Allh) along with Ab Abdillh (p.b.u.h.). The name of the
atheist was Abd al-Malik and his surname was Ab Abdillh. The atheist
jostled the Imms shoulder with his own. Upon this Ab Abdillh inquired
about his name. The atheist replied, 'My name is Abd al-Malik (i.e., the
slave of the king).' The Imm then inquired: 'What is your surname?' The
atheist replied, 'My surname is Ab Abdillh (i.e., the father of slave of
Allh).' Ab Abdillh (p.b.u.h.) inquired further, 'Who is the king whose
slave you are? Is he amongst the kings of the earth or amongst the kings
of heaven? And let me know about your son whether he is the slave of the
god of heaven or the slave of the god of earth? Whichever reply you give,
you stand defeated.'
"Hishm ibn al-Hakam (the narrator) says, 'I intervened and asked
the atheist: 'Why are you not replying to the Imm?' These words of
mine proved distasteful to the atheist. On this Ab Abdillh (p.b.u.h.),
asked him, 'Come to us after completion of the circumambula tion (of the
Kabah).' When Ab Abdillh (p.b.u.h.) had made the circumambulation,
the atheist came and sat before Ab Abdillh, and we all gathered around
him (the Imm). Ab Abdillh addressed the atheist, 'Do you know there
is something beneath the earth and there is something above the earth?' The
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earth?' The atheist replied, 'No.' The Imm inquired, 'What do you think
lies beneath the earth?' The atheist replied, 'I know nothing about it, but I
guess there is nothing beneath the earth.' Ab Abdillh (p.b.u.h.) inquired,
'But a guess denotes (your) weakness since you are not sure.' Then Ab
Abdillh fur ther inquired, 'Have you ever ascended to the heavens?' The
atheist replied, 'No.' (The Imm) asked, 'Do you know what lies in the
heavens?' He replied, 'No.' At this, the Imm said, 'How strange it is that
you have neither reached to the east or the west, neither descended to the
earth nor ascended to the heavens? Never have you passed the boundaries
so that you could know what creations lies beyond, and yet you deny the
existence of whatever may lie there. Does any wise man deny the existense
of what he does not himself know?' The atheist admitted, 'No one except
you has ever talked to me like that.' Ab Abdillh inquired further, 'You
are still in doubt about this matter; it may be thus, or it may not be thus.'
The atheist replied, 'Perhaps it is so.' Ab Abdillh (p.b.u.h.) said, 'O
man! he who does not know, cannot stand in argument against the one
who knows. Ignorance carries no authority. O Egyptian brother! take it
from me for we never had the slightest doubt in (the existence of) Allh.
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Don't you see that the sun, the moon, the night and the day are constrained
to depend on rotation? Without any doubt, they are under a compulsion
to make their rounds. So helpless are they that they are not at liberty to
change even their location. If they (the sun and the moon) had the power
to change their location, then why do they return to the same route (in
their rounds)? If they were not under complusion, then why has the day
not become night and the night day? By Allh, O Egyptian brother! they
are under strict compulsion (to remain steadfast in their routine). And the
One Who has forced them (into this routine) has surpreme authority over
them!' The atheist replied, 'You are right.' Ab Abdillh (p.b.u.h.) added,
'O Egyptian brother! you are
under a delusion when you guess that it is
nature (which controls the universe). If it were nature which does away with
people, then why does she not bring them back to life? And if she brings
them back to life, why does she do away with them? (If all the cycle of life
and death follows the operation of a natural, mechanical and non-conscious
process, then from where does the unchanging uniformity and its inflexible
order arise from?). O Egyptian brother! why has the sky been raised and
the earth so spread out? Why do not the heavens come crushing down to
the earth, why does the earth not drift from its position, and why does it not
soar upwards to the higher stars so as to be joined with them and with what
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by Allh, their
Nourisher and their Lord!' (The narrator) says, 'The atheist
started believing (in God) at the hands of Ab Abdillh (p.b. u.h.). There-
upon Humrn ibn Ayan said, 'May I sacrifice myself upon you! atheists are
becoming converted at your hands just as the infidels become converted at
the hands of your father (the Holy Prophet). The (newly converted) believer
the previous atheist, who became converted at the hands of Ab Abdillh
(p.b.u.h.) requested the Imm, 'Would you accept me as your disciple and
student?' Ab Abdillh (p.b.u.h.), replied, 'O Hishm ibn al-Hakam, (the
learned student of the Imm) take him along with yourself and teach him
well!' Hishm, taught him so well that he then became an instructor in faith
for the people of Syria (ash-Shm) and Egypt, and got himself so highly
refined (in his faith) that Ab Abdillh (p.b.u.h.) was highly pleased with
him.' '
2142. A group of our associates () Ahmad ibn Muhammad ibn
Khlid () Muhammad ibn Al () Abd ar-Rahmn ibn Muhammad ibn
Ab Hshim () Ahmad ibn Muhsin al-Mitham as saying:
"I was in the company of Ab Mansur al-Mutatabbib (physician),
when he said: 'One of my associates related to me saying, 'I and Ibn Abi
'1-Awj (Abd al-Karm ibn Abi 'l-'Awj was one of the well-known
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of al-Hasan al-Basri, but he deviated from the Unity of Allh, and it is
said that he was killed during the reign of al-Mansr [95/714 158/775] ,
the Abbsid Caliph for this very reason) and Abdullh ibn al-Muqaffa
( [106/724 142/759] the famous writer and translater of books of Logic
and Philosophy into Arabic who was accused of atheism and killed) were
in the sacred mosque (of Mecca), when Ibn al-Muqaffa, pointing with his
hand to the place where peo ple were circumambulating (the Kabah the
House of Allh) said, 'Do you see the large number of people? On none
of them can the lable of "human being" be attached, except on the man
sitting over there, that is, Ab Abdillh Jafar ibn Muhammad (peace be
upon him). The rest of the people are mere riff-raff and just animals.' Ibn
Abi l-Awj in quired, 'On what grounds have you termed this man as the
only human being, ignoring all the others?' Ibn al-Muqaffa replied, 'It
is because I have seen in him something which I have not seen in those
people.' Ibn Abi 'l-Awj addressed Ibn al-Muqaffa and said, 'It is now
essential that what you have said about that person should be put to the
test.' (The narrator) said Ibn al-Muqaffa addressed (Ibn Abi 'l-Awj)
saying, 'Do not do it. I fear that in doing so you may lose what you have
already got in your hands.' Ibn Abi 'l-Awj replied, 'This is not truly what
you have in your mind. You really fear that your high opinion about that
person and the high esteem in which you hold him, will topple down before
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and go to him and guard yourself as much as you can against committing
errors. Do not let the reins slip out of your hands in speaking freely, lest
you be tied up in knots. Point out what is with you and what is not with you
(i.e., what you agree with and what you do not agree with). The narrator
says, 'Ibn Abi 'l-Awj stood up (to go to the Imm) while I and Ibn al-
Muqaffa remained sitting. When Ibn Abi 'l-Awj returned to us, he started
speaking, 'Woe unto you O Ibn al-Muqaffa, the person is no human. If
there is, in this world, an angelic spirit who can appear in corporate form
whenever he wishes and return to his spiritual form whenever he wishes,
that one must be this same noble spirit.' Ibn al-Muqaffa asked, 'How is
that?' In reply he said, 'I took my seat before him. When everyone had left
except myself, he (the Imm) started speaking without my asking anything).
'If the truth were as these people circumambu lating the Kabah (Muslim
believers) say, and (in fact) it is as they say, then eternal peace is on their
side, while you people (the atheists) are casualties. But if the truth were
as you say though it is certainly not as you say, then you and they are
on the same level as each other.' I replied to him (the Imm), 'May Allh
have mercy on you, what is it that we say and what is it that they say? My
saying and their saying is but one.' Thereupon the Imm said, 'How can
your words and their words be one and the same? Since they say, they have
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good deeds) and punishment (for their bad deeds). And they have their
belief in religion which says that there is Allh in the heaven and there are
inhabitants in it. On the other hand, you (atheists) think that the heaven is
desolate and there is none in it.' Ibn Abi 'l-Awj says, 'I took this as an
opportunity and remarked, 'If the truth is what these people (believers)
say (that there is Allh) then what prevents Him (Allh) from making an
appearance before the people and from inviting them (directly) to worship
Him? Had this been done, then not even two persons would have been there
to disagree on this very issue. Why did He remained hidden from the people
and send His messengers to them? If He Himself carried out (His mission)
it would have been extremely effective in ensuring the people's belief in
Him.' He (the Imm) replied me, 'Woe unto you, how does He remain
hidden from you when He has Himself demonstrated His power in your
own person: bringing you into being when you did not exist, then raising
you from childhood to old age, making you strong after your weakness,
rendering you weak after your strength, make you sick after your health,
giving you health after your sickness, making you happy after making
you angry, making you angry after making you happy, grieving you after
delighting you, delighting you after grieving you, giving you love after
their hostility, giving you hostility after their love, giving you determination
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you appetite after satiation and surfeit after your appetite, giving you
longing after your disgust and disgust after longing, making you hope ful
after frustration and frustrated after your hopefulness. He puts into your
mind what you cannot even dream of, and effaces what is firmly embedded
in your mind.' Then the Imm continued enumerating the powers of Allh
which are manifest in my being and which I could not deny until I felt I had
been over.whelmed in the debate held be tween us.' "
2153. Some of our associates (rafaahu) have added to this anecdote
of Ibn Abi 'l-Awj when Ab Abdillh (p.b.u.h.) inquired from him the
said questions (to convince him). They said that on the next day too, Ibn
Abi 'l-Awj attended the session of Ab Abdillh (p.b.u.h.). He attended
the session and remained silent throughout, without speaking and passing
any remarks. At this Ab Abdillh said to him, "Have you perhaps come
to continue that same discussion of ours?" He replied, "Yes, O son of the
Messenger of Allh, I had intended to do so." Ab Abdillh (p.b.u.h.),
addressed him thus: "How strange it is that you deny the existence of Allh
and at the same time you bear witness to my being the son of the Messenger
of Allh! He replied, "That was done through force of habit." The lim
(the Imm, Ab Abdillh) further inquired, "Then what prevented you
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I felt myself tongue-tied. I have seen many of the great scholars and had
opportunities to debate with the great theologians (of the time), but never
have I been so awe-struck, as I was in your presence." The Imm said, "May
be it is like that, but now I shall take the initiative in asking you a question.
Be attentive." Then the Imm turned towards him and put a question say-
ing, "Were you created or were you not created?" Abd al-Karm ibn Abi
'l-Awj replied, "I was not created." The lim asked him, "Describe for
me how you would have been if you had been created." Hearing this, Abd
al-Karm was struck dumb for a long while and was confounded, and he
did not make any answer. He kept on playfully handling his stick which
was before him, while he said, "Long, broad, deep, small, dynamic and
static, these are all the attributes of the created." Thereupon, the lim said,
"If you do not know the attributes of the created other than the ones you
have described, then confess yourself to be one created, since you find all
these attri butes within yourself." Thereupon Abd al-Karm replied, "You
have asked me a question which none has asked me before. Nor will any
one ask me a question like this after you." Ab Abdillh (p.b.u.h.), further
inquired, "Granting that you know that none has asked you a question like
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this in the future? In addition to this, O Abd al-Karm, you have yourself
destroyed your own stand, since you assume all things to be completely
equal ever since their origin. Then, how did you put some thing first and
the other thing after?" Then the Imm added, "O Abd al-Karm I will add
some more explanation (to make the matter clear) . Suppose you have got
a bag full of jewels, and someone asks you whether there is any gold in the
bag and you deny that there is any gold in the bag. The man again asks you,
'Describe to me the characteristics of gold' when you know nothing about
the gold. Would it be proper for you to deny that there is gold in the bag
while you know nothing about it?" He replied, "No, it would not be proper
for me." Thereupon, Ab Abdillh (p.b.u.h.) said, "This universe is much
greater, much vaster, much broader than the bag. Hence it is quite possible
that in such a vast universe there may exist a created thing, and that you
know nothing about it because you are not aware of the attributes of the
created, and about its attributes as distinct from (those of) another one,
non-created one." Abd al-Karm was completely silenced. At this, some of
his companions accepted Islam while some other remained with him.
Abd al-Karm came to the Imm on the third day and said, "Can I
change the question?" Ab Abdillh (p.b.u.h.) replied, "Ask whatever you
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being?" The Imm replied, "I do not find anything, small or big, except that
mixing it with something similar to it makes it bigger. In this lies its cessation
and the shift from its original state. If the thing had been eternal, there would
have been neither such cessation, nor any shift. Because it is quite proper
for a thing which can cease or shift from one state to another to exist (first)
and then to be obsolete (null and void). Thus, (coming into) existence of a
thing, after its non-existence before, has an element of later occurrence in it.
And its existence in eternity was nothing but its non-existence. Thus, the
attributes of eternity, non-entity, later occurrence, and antiquity can never
be collected in one and the same thing." Thereupon Abd al-Karm said,
"I agree with you that from these two states (smallness and bigness) and
two periods (nothingness and later occurrence) which occur to all bodies,
you know that there is a later occurrence, as you have proved in your
agrument. But suppose that all things remain in their smallness (without
any cessation or shift occurring to them), how would you then prove their
later occurrence?" The lim replied, "We are talking in the context of
this universe. If we set aside this universe, and put another universe in its
place, that universe proves it in a far better way than (the theory of) later
occurrence. But now I give a reply with the same indispensable supposition
and imaginning which you have yourself adopted. We say, if all things
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remain small (all the time), and we, in our imagination, mix one thing
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and this poss ibility of change does away with its being eternal. In the same
way, its alteration puts it in the (category of the things of) later occurrence.
After this, O Abd al-Karm, there is nothing left more for you to say." At
this (reply) he was completely silenced, repudiated and humiliated.
The next year Ibn Abi 'l-Awj met the Imm in al-Haram the
House of Allh and one of the followers of the Imm informed him
that Ibn Abi 'l-Awj had accepted Islam. The lim (Imm) remarked,
"He has too much of a blind spot against Islam to accept it." When he
saw the lim he addressed him, "My Master and my chief." Thereupon
the lim inquired, "What has brought you here?" He replied, "Force of
habit, the tradition of the country, and the desire to witness the spec tacle
of the peoples mid-summer madness, the shaving of their heads and the
casting of their stone." The Imm said, "O Abd al-Karm you are still
presumptuous and misguided." He was about to start a discussion when
the Imm (p.b.u.h.), removing his covering sheet from his hand, cut
him short saying, "No argument during the pilgrimage ceremonies. If
the case is as you say, although it is not so, then we both (the believers
and the atheists) have secured salvation. On the contrary, if the case is as
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we say, and undoubtedly it is so as we say, then we (the believers) have
secured salvation and you (the athe ists) are doomed." Then Abd al-Karm
advanced towards his associates and said, "I feel some pain in my heart.
Take me back." His associates took him back where he died. May Allh not
be merciful to him.
2164. Muhammad ibn Jafar al-Asad narrated to me () Muhammad
ibn Isml al-Barmak ar-Rz () al-Husayn ibn al-Hasan ibn Burd
ad-Dnawar () Muhammad ibn Al () Muhammad ibn Abdillh
al-Khursn, the personal servant of ar-Rid (p.b.u.h.) as saying:
"An atheist entered the court of Abu 'l-Hasan (ar-Rid, p.b.u.h.)
when the Imm was in audience with a group of people. Abu 'l-Hasan
(p.b.u.h.) addressed the atheist, 'O man, have you realized that if the truth
is as you people say, although it is not so, then both of us are equal in ad-
vantage? Our praying, our fasting, our paying the poor-tax and our belief
(in Allh, His Messenger and the life hereafter) will bring us no harm at
all.' At this the man kept silent. Then Abu 'l-Hasan (p.b.u.h.) said, 'If the
truth is as we say, and undoubtedly it is as we say, then you would have
perished and we are saved' The man replied, 'May Allh be merciful to
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for the door of Ab Abdillh (p.b. u.h.). He asked permission to see the
Imm which was granted to him. When he sat down before the Imm he
addressed the Imm saying, 'O Jafar ibn Muhammad! guide me towards
the One I wor ship (Allh): Ab Abdillh asked him, 'What is your name?'
Hearing this, he came out from the house of the Imm without telling his
name. At this, his followers asked why he had not told his name to the
Imm. He replied, 'If I had told him my name Abdullh (meaning slave
of Allh), he would have asked me, 'Who is that (Allh) whose slave you
are.' At this, his followers advised him to return to the Imm and appeal to
him, 'Guide me towards the One I worship and do not ask me my name.'
The atheist returned to the Imm and appealed, 'O Jafar ibn Muhammad!
guide me towards my Lord and do not ask my name.' Thereupon, Ab
Abdillh (p.b.u.h.) said to him, 'Take your seat.' At that time one of his
small boys was playing with an egg in his hand. The Imm called upon the
boy, 'O boy, give me the egg.' The boy handed over the egg to the Imm.
Ab Abdillh (p.b.u.h.), addressed the atheist saying, 'O ad-Dayasn!
this is a fort with its doors closed. It is covered with a thick layer, below
the thick layer there is a thin layer. Below the thin layer there is some
liquid gold and some molten silver. This liquid gold does not mix with
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comes out of it to indicate how rich is the inside, and nothing harmful
can enter in it to indicate how harmful it is. No one can tell it the egg has
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creatures of bright colouration like peacocks. Do you not see any director
to direct all this?' " The narrator says, "ad-Dayasn bowed his head in deep
thought and then said, 'I witness, verily, there is no god except Allh, the
One. There is no partner for Him and verily Muhammad is His slave and
His messenger. And you are the Imm the divinely appointed guide,
and Allhs evidence for His creatures. And I retract my steps from my
previous path.' "
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one who believes in the doctrine of Dualism), who had come (to debate
with) Ab Abdillh (p.b.u.h.). During his talk Ab Abdillh (p.b.u.h.)
said:
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case there can only be three alternatives.) Either both of them must be
eternally powerful, or both of them must be weak, or one of them must be
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why would each one of them not try to sub jugate and repel his rival so that
he may be the sole sovereign (over the whole universe)? If you think that
one of them is strong and the other is weak, then what we say is proved that
the eternal is the One, because of the patent helplessness of the other. If you
(again) say that they (eternal beings) can be two, then again there can only
be the possible alternatives that both of them will either agree or disagree
with each other in all respects. We see a perfect design in this creation (of
the universe) and the heavenly bodies floating (according to a single plan)
and the direction (of the whole universe) is homogeneous, and that the
night, the day, the sun, the moon operate with precision. The very plan,
harmony and coordination of these affairs prove that they are all working
under the orders of one organizer. What is more, if you point to two gods,
you are constrained to suppose a gap be tween them in order to rectify this
duality; then this gap will be a third eternal god with those two (because
this gap must be of the same kind); and three gods will be forced upon you.
And if you point to three gods, you are constrained by the same reasoning
as was given in the case of two gods and you will have to suppose two gaps
among them and there will be five gods. Likewise it proceeds till there is
no limit to the multiplicity of gods."
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Hishm says, "One of the queries of the zindq was, 'What is the
proof of the existence of one God? Ab Abdillh (p.b.u.h.) replied, 'The
existence of deeds themselves points to the existence of the doer who is
responsible for those deeds of creation. Do not you see that if you look at
a strong building already built, you will know that there must be a builder
for the building, although you may not have seen him.' The man further
inquired, 'What exactly is He?' The Imm replied, 'He is something quite
unlike all other things. I mean to say that God is something (already)
proved and that He is something that is a reality by Himself, except that
He has no body, no shape and is totally impercept ible by sight or touch and
unseekable through the five senses. Notions and imaginnings cannot reach
Him and the passage of time has no effect upon Him and cannot bring any
change in Him.' "
2197. Muhammad ibn Yaqb says, "A group of our asso ciates
narrated to me () Ahmad ibn Muhammad al-Barq () his father ()
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